Developments DEC 05 >Syrian Army captures 60% of rebel-held Aleppo in the space of a week >Jihadist shelling of a russian mobile Hospital kills 1 Russian Nurse, injures 2 more >Russian humanitarian aid convoy arrives to Aleppo >Russia, Turkey agree to give jihadists 24 hours to leave east Aleppo >US, UK considering air dropping aid to jihadists in East Aleppo >Over 2500 Syrian militants granted amnesty over past week >SA finds and destroys lengthy tunnel in Al-Tal >Aleppo International Airport liberated >Reinforcements pour into northern Hama ahead of anticipated offensive >SA attempts to capture main rebel stronghold(Tariq Al-Bab) in east Aleppo >Over 85000 people displaced since Mosul operation began
>Sectarian "rebel" supporters with Nusra/ISIS flags in Binnish, Idlib.
>"We want to exterminate Alawites & Shi'a" "I am a Sectarian Binnishi"
WEW SO MODERATE!
Carson King
Do I need to apologize for qt Russian medic?
Chase Gonzalez
Is Assad dead yet?
Gavin Martinez
no new gains today?
Brody Walker
Hi /sg/
I usually keep away from this general, the threads had gone to shit since 14/15. However, this morning it looks pretty amicable (no rebel supporters, no turkshit posters).
I have a geopolitical question for you; I can't seem to wrap my head around why the United States would so adamantly support the rebels and be so strongly against Assad. US foreign policy usually isn't this retarded; they usually have a larger goal in mind when supporting an insurgent group, but for the life of me I can't understand why they would be so against Assad that they were willing to let ISIS get such a strong foothold in the region. It's quite obvious that no matter what grievances anyone has against Assad, him being in power translates quite well into regional stability, and most likely and end to ISIS. So what gives? What does the US want out of this?
I have seen some loose topics before about the Iran/Russian vs Saudi/US oil pipeline, but I don't really buy that the US would allow all this chaos to occur just for a small amount of Russian/Iranian regional power to exist. A Middle East history professor of mine believes that the reason the US is so against Assad is because of Cold War mentalities -- that we were willing to allow the whole region to go to shit just so Russian-friendly Assad was removed from power. Do any of you support this hypothesis?
I guess what I'm asking for in essence is this: what do you think is the driving motive for the US foreign policy stance that Assad be removed from power?
Too late. Czech fleet is going to sink couple of your air-carriers, that will be a lesson for you.
Caleb Campbell
>I have a geopolitical question for you; I can't seem to wrap my head around why the United States would so adamantly support the rebels and be so strongly against Assad Because muh Israel
1. How does Iran and Hezbollah factor into the conflict
2. Can someone explain the differences/origins of the following withing the frame of the conflict >al qaeda >al nusra >IS
Appreciate the help
Jack Collins
>so close I can almost taste it
Owen Perry
>Moscow is our rightful clay >Putin must go
Cooper Carter
who are the white helmets?
Joseph Morgan
Yes its mostly about Russia and Russian interests (pipeline) in the region Its not Cold War mentalities its Cold War 2.0 Islamic Boogaloo
Daniel Martinez
Fuck. How's the injured doctor feeling?
Hunter Brooks
>Also, 2nd Russian nurse died in hospital. This is really sad to be honest.
The saddest thing is Lavrov will share vodka and pizza (why pizza I wonder) with Kerry, his Skull and bones brother while signing off on another ceasefire.
Carson Bailey
>1 Iran supplies Syria with aircrafts, weapons and tanks, as well as manpower, while Hezbollah only has ground forces.
>2 Only their name. And maybe the interpretations of some parts of the Quran.
Leo White
greater Israel. No other explanation makes any sense. 9/11 was the start of their endgame. Caliphate in Syria and war with Russia was one of the final stages
Jose Gray
Oh, my god, will you stop with this constant stream of butthurt? Do they let abos to post on the internet now?
Jaxon Clark
>what do you think is the driving motive for the US foreign policy stance that Assad be removed from power?
A weak Syria that doesn't pose a threat to Israel, a puppet president, to close the Russian naval base in Tartous, take away another russian ally. Also, a lot of Saudi/Qatari dollars.
shills lying
>Hassan Ridha @sayed_ridha 3 hhace 3 horas
>No truth to militant advances in al-Qaterji and Miysar. Syrian Army launches attack on Zebdiyeh axis near Saif al-Dawla
Pic is from Aleppo
Austin Collins
>No other explanation makes any sense. 9/11 was the start of their endgame. Caliphate in Syria and war with Russia was one of the final stages To explain this further, think of the terrorists/ISIS/Al Qaeda as enzymes. Syria is a big country for Israel and it cannot swallow it without first chewing it up slowly.
The terrorists wipe out the populations and turn them into refugees (as a bonus Europe is destroyed in the process, the long term competitor for Israel).
What happens to the US is none of their concern and they control Washington.
Any other explanation of the war on Syria is written by a shill or a fool.
Tyler Cox
Both al-Nusra and IS are both AQ splinter groups, but al-Nusra is in good terms with AQ unlike IS. Ideologically they are very similar.
Henry Cruz
Russians dont get mad, they get even Remember when the Turks shot down their plane they didnt do anything and then a month later a bus filled with pilots and cadets vaporized in Ankara by (((Kurds)))? They cant Gronzy Aleppo but they will most likely gronzy Idlib
Zachary Long
Also, origins. Al Nusra is the syrian branch of Al Qaeda, while IS was part of AQ from '04 until 2013 when they declared their shitty calliphate.
Jason Wood
The second nurse is dead
Isaiah Martinez
That's sad.
Eli Reed
>They cant Gronzy Aleppo but they will most likely gronzy Idlib Here's the problem, when dealing with animals you have to show them a direct response or they will not behave.
I'm not talking about the terrorists.
I'm talking about Israel, the animal running this show. They can shoot down a bunch of Jordanian jets for example. Who am I kidding, they can't even land their jets.
Lincoln Adams
Most """"""""moderate""""""""""" rebels are AQ splinter groups Their basic difference is how they deal with other muslims
Jackson Turner
...
Christian Jackson
>[genocide intensifies]
Hunter Foster
Well, "rebels" are just even more fucked.
Ian Barnes
I'm looking at the remains of the hospital....
That was not an artillery strike. That looks like a cruise missile attack. Look carefully why.
Joseph White
>US, UK considering air dropping aid to jihadists in East Aleppo What a bunch of clowns. Nobody takes their retarded leadership seriously anymore.
Wyatt Martinez
>Nobody takes their retarded leadership seriously anymore. Thank God
Landon Baker
>[enoughs in Russian]
Isaac Watson
>gains: none >losses: several russians and a jet
Kayden Ortiz
Maybe I am taking it too literally but I read here that the terrorists, that time IS, were "funded" by the US. How's that work?
Jacob Nguyen
Could be rocket artillery.
Leo Morris
Al Nusra is the syrian branch of Al Qaeda, the rift between groups like Al Nusra and Ahrar al Sham with ISIS is for power in Syria, there is no difference between them.
And the Iran and Hezbollah factor in Syria is very important, Hezbollah saved the SAA when the jihadists where just kilomemes from Central Damascus. That and the Iranian supply of material to the SAA save Assad from being ousted.
Pretty reliable, they get info directly for the hezbollah soldiers on the ground.
Owen Wood
Woha I just checked and a Jordanian F16 just fell.
Holy fuck, I dindu nuffin
Asher Robinson
No fucking way was it a cruise missile. The entire compound would be blown to shit. The shell hit the generator / air pump in the hospital tent and set it on fire.
Luis Stewart
>2nd Russian nurse died in hospital. Confirmed. White point on map is hospital location, black one is when shit came from. I was told AF are heavily bombing kebabs now. I want this district bombed into shit.
Isaac Perez
Fkin kek
David Garcia
>Could be rocket artillery. Too precise, there's no scattered shots and it looks two missiles hit precisely.
Also no ground damage suggests it exploded above ground. This was a cruise missile attack by a US jet.
For whatever reason it doesn't seem Russian air defense works, or maybe they don't have the will to push the button.
>The entire compound would be blown to shit >He seriously believes this
At most 200-240kg of actual explosives and they get triggered above the ground.
Joshua Wood
IS funded by US is mostly a speculation (that most of us here believe) Al-Nusra is directly funded by US and the Gulf states, they didnt even hide that Now that Al-Nusra bitten them in the ass on the PR department a couple of times by beheading children and such they are trying to rebrand it or deny that they had any corelation with them whatsoever
Carter Gray
rip, jordan is a ok country in my book and i dont wish em any dead nationals
Aiden Davis
And murricans would give Russians more reasons to bomb Aleppo to shit why exactly?
Camden Barnes
>How's that work? 1.We(E.Europe) mass produce weapons. 2.US/Turkey/Qatar/SA buys them on very little price 3.They ship them to Turkey. 4.Turkey smuggles some to FSA, some to IS through the Syrian border 5.IS on the other hand gives Syrian/Iraqi oil to US/Turkey 6.Repeat
Ryan Reed
ISIS was part of the US plan to oust Assad, but they went cray cray and thought they could take on Iraq as well. US funds Al Qaeda in Syria, Al Qaeda in Syria goes to Iraq and funds ISIS.
Jaxon Morales
>What happened
>They can shoot down a bunch of Jordanian jets for example. Who am I kidding, they can't even land their jets.
[Minutes later]
>It happens
Wyatt Martinez
no one takes russian victims seriously if they bait russia into resuming bombing of aleppo russia gets demonized even more
Brody Thompson
Its rainy isnt it? It looks like there is a pool of water in the middle making it look flat Also mortars can explode above ground too
Parker Campbell
ISIS is funded by Saudi Arabia and Qatar (see wikileaks) and Turkey bought their oil. But not by USA.
Elijah Perry
>He seriously believes this You underestimate the damage caused by explosions. Were it an actual cruise missile, it would caused way more damage. That simpyl looks like the shell lit the generator on fire, thus burning down both tents.
Michael Allen
USA sends weapons to FSA units that forward them to ISIS ISIS have stated that they get the vast majority of their ammo from FSA
Daniel Gutierrez
That honestly is the dumbest place for a field hospital ever. Its like they wanted it to get mortared. >rip qt doc
Logan Richardson
>This was a cruise missile attack by a US jet No. It was not a JSSAM. There is no fucking way you could not tell the difference between a shell and a missile. Light cruise missile: youtube.com/watch?v=XBvlm9rZmF0 Artillery: youtube.com/watch?v=IUvcdKGD-FM
Jacob Turner
There are also leaked cables/email from us officials pointing out that removing assad/a weak syria is in the interest of the us.
Gavin Bell
Kek. That district is ruled by the FSA. They are supposed to be the more moderates. Please wipe them ruskies.
Hunter Green
fuck off the guy on your photo is jamal maarouj, and the photo was taken in Dana town in Idlib province in january 2014 after taking it from ISIS
Logan Barnes
>And murricans would give Russians more reasons to bomb Aleppo to shit why exactly? Americans have to give reason for the Russians to sign a ceasefire to ruin the SAA's tempo and keep the conflict raging for when Trump comes into power so there is no change in plans/strategy.
If carrots won't work, they bring out the sticks and strike Russian sensitive points using F-22s carrying standoff missiles of which the US has PLENTY.
Russians threatened to shoot these down, but as we know Russians only know how to issue threats and not commit to actions.
Unless this Jordanian jet didn't come down by accident, then I stand corrected. But it will take more than 1 jet.
Eli Jackson
The irony is that the Taliban, another branch of al-Qaeda in Afghan is using some of the heavy equipment King Nigger give in Syria against Afghan forces.
Lucas Allen
no impact craters, if artillery, then laser guided/painted target spotters, 10/10 shell placement, or remote controlled cruise missile.
Jack Lopez
>implyin' the kings of the Gulf can do anything without USA order Oh you.
Mason Clark
>russian mobile hospital bombed by rebels, 2 field medics killed >western media utterly silent typical
Carter Torres
I hope the doggos are okay at least
Logan Miller
proxy or real?
Jeremiah Baker
revenge will come tovarish, the russian blood will not be spilled in vain.
...and bombing a hospital which Russia blames on terrorists is a reason for them to sign the ceasefire? In what world?
Christian Murphy
I'd really expect them to use the buildings themselves instead of setting up tents. It's standard operating princible for logistical units to always use existing constructions when possible. You've got lights, electricity, warmth, shelter.
Hopefully a Jordanian female piloted plane flying near by didn't shoot it down again.
Our maybe the plane was piloted by a female
Dylan Hernandez
Don't blame King Nigger. He can only do African tribal tactics.
Evan Phillips
>It looks like there is a pool of water in the middle making it look flat Maybe but where are the scattered shots around the area, there should be at least one visible in the distance.
Maybe they borrowed (launched) a Popeye missile from Israel?
Jordan Young
ALL THE AIRSOFT !!
Mason Bell
>no impact craters Mortars hardly leave a mark on hard ground and airfused artillery has been a thing for half a century. The damage you see is caused by the tents burning down.
>So the rebels recently got a whole lot of Grad missiles. > >>who gave them to them >>how to counter/deal with them > >I don't know if the Turkish government did it or rogue arms dealers. The Turk/Russian/Syrian relationship is irritating and not straightforward. The Grad rockets that I have seen the moderate jihadists use based on the videos they themselves have filmed have been all Bulgarian made (VMZ), likely Turkey or KSA paid for them and then had them smugled into Syria via Turkey. The production dates have ranged from mid 2000's to as new rockets as from 2015
Connor Campbell
so there will be no ceasefire ,and thats that ,it was possible ceasefire under 1 strict condition and thats that departure from Aleppo ,if they dont agree on leaving military operations will continue and ceasefire wont happen
Nolan Gomez
lol ok
I forgot the FSA is totally no ISIS ;^)
Asher Cook
>laser guided/painted target spotters You get it. It hit them head on. Just not possible with grad.
I don't know of any weapon the terrorists have that can be laser guided though. Maybe it was a small laser guided bomb (Paveway II)?
Zachary Ortiz
the account says from the start that it is being managed by her mother.
why don't you become informed about things before speaking about them? retard
Christian Diaz
>a child with english as a second language tweeted this as gunfire rang out in her neighborhood and the army kicked her door down
hmmmm
Jason Diaz
>[bawwwww in Russian] Honestly Russbro I feel for you guys but less talk more action.
Dominic Williams
Why the fuck does he wear MARPAT? Don't we have our own patterns?
Joseph Ortiz
Wasn't she teleporting all over East Aleppo as well? I remember for a long while she said she was in the Northern part, but then right before the offensive started there she teleported to the southern area.
