Genocide millions of innocents

>genocide millions of innocents
>steal half a country worth of land
>leave them 1/1000th of what they started with
>leave reservations ungoverned, unsupported and force them to absolve their depressed, meaningless lives with alcohol and shady casinos
>no reparations or government aid of any kind
>degrade their lifestyle with vicious stereotypes and cruel treatment (Pipelines that the government doesn't give a fuck about if it means destroying sacred burial grounds

manifest destiny my ass. this is outright inhumane and every american should be absolutely ashamed of their country

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I'm ashamed we didn't finish the job

I was expecting edgy responses, but that was sure fast

Chief drunken bear is just upset that the pipeline doesn't deliver whiskey.

Yeah but it was funny

They're welfare whores. They stile economic development across our country to demand more welfare. There is no benefit pandering to these people. They only ask for more.

I have a question. Would our little black community be okay with a declaration that all reparations/welfare/aid were going to be going to the Native Americans?

>no government reparations or aid of any kind

But thats wrong you fucking faggot

It's not like they were doing things with the land, anyway.

Normally when someone loses a war, they get nothing. Be thankful.

True and native americans were Hungarians so you have to give back our rightful clay.

Stop getting your history from facebook.

other than living peaceful lives and living off the land like they had for centuries. stealing their way of life and then disgracing them for it isn't progress, it's backwards thinking and was only done because of the manifest destiny doctrine stating that a nation has the right to conquer whatever they can. conquering stops being honorable when you're obliterating the lifestyles of millions of peaceful people

wait so you want us to leave the natives to their own devices and not oppress them, but you also want us to govern their reserves?
are all liberals such idiots?

>living peaceful lives

Let's break this down bit by bit shall we?

>genocide millions of """""""innocents""""""""

9/10 died from disease. Nice try drinks with sun

>steal land
They were nomads. Nice try drunken bear

>leave them with 1/1000th
We gave them electricity, they were hundreds if not thousands of years from that point when we found them, but nice try minty breath

>Allow savage drunks to manage themselves without white man's help

Didn't they do it so well for thousands of years? Not our fault they are back to hunter/gatherer. But nice try sleeps with little bear


>no reparation
We have them unlimited gambling rights and all kinds of business opportunities. Not our fault they are too stupid to take advantage. Nice try Hoya Hoya

>take their head dresses and build a pipeline

Good. I hope it pollutes their water

tribes had wars between themselves, but they weren't diabolical madmen

>>living peaceful lives

I bet you believe they used every part of the buffalo, too, faggot.

>i can't handle natural selection: the post

The red man was done dirty no doubt. But what should be done? What can be done?

Do you even know who that is a picture of or what he did. Or are you so far up your ass that you forget that they are human people too and not your soap box of excuses

explain why we leave remote tribes in Africa / New Guinea to their own devices, forbidding anybody to interfere, but these millions of people don't matter when they're practicing the same lifestyle?

You guys did it first. The only difference is that we let you people survive. So, why are you criticizing us?

>mutilation and human sacrifices are fine as long as you're not white

oh then colonization was just a war between european tribes and native tribes. whites weren't diabolical madmen.

so the solution to violence is far worse violence? it doesnt make us any better than them

Fuck redskins.

>they weren't diabolical madmen

>far worse
subjectivity
>it doesnt make us any better than them
powerplants and nuclear physics do though

>genocide millions of innocents
Shouldn't have gone to war with a far more powerful army
>>buy half a country worth of land
FTFY
>leave reservations ungoverned, unsupported and force them to absolve their depressed, meaningless lives with alcohol and shady casinos
Literally what they wanted.
>>no reparations or government aid of any kind
[CITATION NEEDED]
>>degrade their lifestyle with vicious stereotypes and cruel treatment (Pipelines that the government doesn't give a fuck about if it means destroying sacred burial grounds
>Not realizing the pipeline doesn't even run through NA land
Sad!

thats aztec bro

they didnt choose to go to war. their land was sacred to them and it was a defensive conflict

would you let an enormous, advanced army show up and walk right in, or would you do whatever you can to defend your homeland?

INJUN here. Stop making these stupid threads. You're just as bad as the white people protesting the fucking pipeline.

>it doesnt make us any better than them
What makes us better is that we won very convincingly. That's all that matters in a Darwinian sense. What you should also consider is that out of the colonization of the Americas, the greatest nation in human history was birthed. A nation responsible for a vast portion of the species' technological, ideological, and cultural advancements.

The natives were a stone age people contributing absolutely nothing. By the metric of civilizational advancement, we're clearly better.

>disease
>displacement of tens of millions
>letting them die to the diseases the foreigners brought over
>allocating virtually no resources to supplement their survival

hardly subjective

Europeans killed over 90% of the native American population just by showing up with never before seen bacterial infections. Natives were doomed since Amerigo Vespucci's first contact.
[spoiler]though Jackson's intense hatred of Natives didn't help anything.[/spoiler]

>aztecs weren't natives of the americas

It isn't there homeland. The Native Americans we know of today invaded it while another tribe of people were already living here. Also, Native Americans wipe out other Native American tribes and took over there land as well.

We're clearly talking about the native tribes of North America. America had virtually no involvement with south america. that was the spanish

>drinks with sun

kek

if they weren't shit they would've survived, take some advice from nature hippie it's "survival of the fittest" not survival of the feelzy feels

>be a fucking dumb savage
>get rekt by superior civilization
>bitch about it for centuries after

Explain how you defend yourself against diseases that had never before been encountered? diseases even the europeans could barely understand. not only that, but the help that the euros could have provided went without any use because they didnt want to allocate the resources to helping the natives

Genocide is an intentional act and there was only about a million by best estimates.

...

Ghost dance

>cutting off scalps
>peaceful
let's give them all free tutition! yay!

we should have killed them all and not left them anything.

there's no such thing as right and wrong on a population level. just strong and weak. the indians were weak and stupid

you believe in evolution, don't you? that's what this is.

fuck the indians.

>never invent the wheel the sail or firearms
>practice cannibalism
>sub 85 iq
>even more superstitious than the kikes and dance for rain
>have no writing system or monuments or buildings as evidence of your deep civilization and claim to the land

tl;dr theyre subhuman savages who. ant own land

that's a vastly exaggerated claim. very, very few tribes practiced it at all, and was reserved for the most heinous offenses

>95% live hundreds of miles from the sea
>never invented the sail

what a surprise

Might Makes Right

More people were killed in the north american natives genocide and Spaniard invasion in couple months than "Human sacrifices" during several centuries. Only proving whites were more savages than "uncivilized" tribes.

europeans managed it, even in africa
>diseases even the europeans could barely understand
nah europeans knew what smallpox was and used it against the native americans as a biological weapon, again survival of the fittest if they had proper medicine not dancing niggers they would've had a better chance

>steal
Why you keep using that word
I don't think it means what you think it means

Red Injuns are the ultimate dindus. How the fuck do you figure we forced alcohol and casinos on them and why is the second a bad thing for them? Furthermore, why should the descendents of Englishmen take responsibility for the diseases that killed Indians before we even got here? I don't even think the Spanish deserve guilt, but much less us. This would be like Europeans accusing Mongolians or Chinese of genocide because of the Black Death.

And currently, the pipeline doesn't go through Indian land, archaeologists can find no evidence it's a burial ground, and lots of pipelines already traverse the river. Oil isn't inherently evil, you child. You yell "no war for oil" but then say we can't frack, drill offshore, or buy from Canada. Guess what, if we can't do those things we'll stay involved in the Middle East.

>lose war
>whine

I somehow still don't care.

Manifest destiny is real.

>shady casinos
I've been to a few Indian Casinos, they were nice.

proper medicine? from what? you realize most fundamental sciences came from countries based along trade routes, where technology and learning was exchanged. Natives didn't have any exposure to the outside world. Why do you think there are still African tribes with no technology south of the northern countries? any student of history knows that trade routes are what defined early learning and science

Nigger please. You could be killed for being a mail carrier. The natives were savages and it was mistake letting any live.

>leave reservations ungoverned, unsupported and force them to absolve their depressed, meaningless lives with alcohol and shady casinos
I can tell you don't live around injuns or their reservations. They want independence until they skip to the nearest town and use our tax dollars to pay for their medical and dental care. Even then we send care buses onto the reservations to help them out with dental and shit. Fuck off Chief Huffing Paint. You don't know dick you stupid faggot.

all of those niggers should be gone too

the kike did not start this meddling until the 1900s

No, scalps were often used as trophies

tldr they were stupid shits, good thing they were wiped off to make room for civilisation then

Return actual autonomy or grant state-hood to reservations. The legal quandaries generated by reservations is pretty bad. For example, one thing that happens pretty frequently is women getting raped by people coming into the reservation who have no legal recourse for prosecution as the territory they were raped on can't extradite a citizen. So basically the treaties end up getting cherry-picked to keep the red man down.

Now, if you really want to see some butt-hurt liberals we should demand that the original treaties be honored, and that the land granted to natives be autonomous, starting with the Hamptons.

the retards walked over, they did not sail over because they are retarded savages

Aztecs were in Mexico
Mexico is in North America
Mayan were South America

They crossed an ICE bridge. How much sailing do you think happens in icy waters?

The weak should fear the strong

>vastly exaggerated claim
Except it wasn't

Some only did it to warriors, others did it to everyone. women and children included. But the biggest offenders were the Pawnees and the Sioux. it was a right of the victor.

They even teach this in Schools on the Rez. i should know, i lived on one.

>genocide
There are more self-proclaimed native Americans in the US today than during colonization.
There were only about 10 million at the time across the entirety of the US, most died not in conflicts, but disease which is really no one'd fault.
The 100 million+ meme you keep seeing included the Americas as well. Spain has nothing to door with Whites since they are Moorish rape babies.
Beyond that, the Native Americans in South America were outbred or allowed themselves to breed with the invasive species. Look at Brazil, you either look like a nigger or close to someone from Spain.
The "genocide" just kind of happened and wasn't intentional.

Man, it's almost as if they would've been better off as a unified country with a strong immigration policy, rather than a bunch of squabbling tribes of grabasses. Really forces you to increase your level of cognition

Spain had help from tribes of South Americans who hated eachother.

INJUN her again.

Natives get the equivalent of a full-time job pay for sitting around and doing meth all month. The Government gives the funding for schools and all that gibs money FO DEM PROGRAMS. Natives don't pay taxes on the res. A basic school teacher could end the year making 60-80k a year depending on where they do it as long as it's on the res. Instead the res schools molder and decay and sit unused. The teachers never go into teaching and the kids wouldn't go anyway since they're WHITE MAN school to enslave you away from a life of drinking and doing meth and homemade heroin and then shooting yourself in the head at 31. If they'd pooled their money they could have bought back a shit ton of this country. If they'd gotten good jobs on their free educations and gone to college and strived and bettered themselves to all be lawyers and doctors and bankers and international business men and stock market kings they could have bought back the entire country by now. But they didn't. Do not give my "people" attention for their dumb pipeline, they could easily have bought all that land by now and it wouldn't be an issue. But they didn't. They spent most of their adult lives past the age of 10 in a drug fogged haze and a drunken stupor. No it's not "comuning with the spirits" Acid/Mushrooms/LSD would require they go without most of the month on their lazy stipend. It's meth and mouthwash because they wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they couldn't be blown out all day erry day. It's unsalvageable, I tried. The only winning move is to walk away and cut off all ties to your people because they don't have hopes and aspirations and dreams and there's nothing you can do to make them.

Someone screencap this for future use I'm getting tored of writing it up each thread.

Mayans were also in Mexico, my american educated fellow

Columbia (goddess in that picture) is meant to represent the advancement and expansion of America for the sake of its people. Natives were treated as pseudo-citizens but why not allow them to integrate through education, training etc? Face it, the US hated them for no real reason. They scalped people? boo hoo. We killed MILLIONS of them and then rewarded them with tiny reservations that had no real government or aid. Basically leaving them there hoping they'd die. That is beyond cruel and is an act of pure hate.

>INJUN here
t. 1/124th generokee

From my work with tribal nations.. they're pretty useless in general: they want this/that/etc. but don't want to do the work to get it.

Here's how I sum them up: I worked with about half a dozen tribal nations to setup a foster care/adoption event exclusively for the tribes (was working Child Welfare at the time), and their OWN tribal members wanted to charge them to provide guest speakers, catering, etc. Tribal members wanted to charge their tribes for an event coordinated by the State and tribe(s) while the tribes would be the only ones benefiting from the event.

That's like walking into a bakery, demanding the most costly cake, then charging YOU for making it.

You live there.
The only public education teaches about Mexico is how they lost twice. Once under Spanish control and then under their own Government.

They also lost a war one time to us, and then they lost an election recently too.

Srupid fucking lazy injun, can't do anything for himself.

all subjective
all appeal to emotion fallacies
all fallacy of many questions

also: most of us are not hundreds of years old to have had any hand in any of it

cute,
but no.

The scalps of women and children were highly favoured. Natives were such savages that it made the colonists into savages who would scalp them back.

You are an idiot.
> genocide
There are more native Americans alive now, then their ever where.
> ungoverned
They want to govern themselves, dumb ass.
> no reparations
They each get a check from the government, every month.

You are wrong on everything you've said, so wrong, that the only solution is to hide this thread. Come back with some facts, chief pants-on-fire

wtf i hate america now

MILLIONS didnt exist

>genocide millions of innocents
No one outright genocided indians, most died because INDIANS made pathogens disperse on their own populations, also modern estimates put their population at around 2 million tops
>steal half a country worth of land
How did euros steal any land? 99% when they settled somewhere it was uninhabited (mostly because indians were already dead by the time europeans got there)
>leave them 1/1000th of what they started with
Leave them with 1/1000th of what?
>leave reservations ungoverned, unsupported and force them to absolve their depressed, meaningless lives with alcohol and shady casinos
Reservations are run by natives themselves, and those are pretty much tax heavens, they can get mad rich in those, so stfu
>no reparations or government aid of any kind
You're kidding right? edition.cnn.com/2012/11/26/politics/american-indian-settlment/
>degrade their lifestyle with vicious stereotypes and cruel treatment (Pipelines that the government doesn't give a fuck about if it means destroying sacred burial grounds
The pipeline doesn't go through the reservation or any burial grounds its been proven. In fact I think it goes through federal owned lands.

>didn't choose to go to war
>the practice of scalping is a vastly exaggerated claim
>that is beyond cruel and is an act of pure hate

Take a look at the indian wars that went on when whites first landed on the East Coast. Within the first 13 hours of the expedition to find suitable land for Jamestown the indians ambushed the settlers. Which is why they chose to build their Fort in the middle of a swamp, it was the only place they could feasibly defend until more manpower arrived. For the next 75 years it was a back and fourth war of survival that introduced Europeans to the practice of scalping and what would evolve into guerrilla warfare. Scalping was a method of proving one's manhood in his village and seen in every single tribe. It is a practice commonplace in the Indian school of warfare, just like the ambush and execution of POWs. All of which was mainstays of intertribal warfare that occurred for centuries before the white man came.

In New England and the Southern colonies counter raids to be conducted on villages that broke peace treaties by torching settlements, killing everyone, and desecrating the corpses. It was a proportionate response to people that would spit roast their enemies alive and cut out their hearts. In the west we applied what we learned from centuries of dealing with indians. Why? They broke treaties whenever they felt like it and refused to integrate when offered, thats on top of the extensive acts of brutality they committed on whites and their own people. The only tribes that had their shit together were the Cherokee and Iroquoi Confederation.

ITT: OP gets thoroughly BTFO and stops responding.

>t. 1/124th generokee
t. 1/64th Wallflower Peacebrother

Give the white knight guilt a rest Dances-like-white-girl, you got a meth snowball you need to be making.

Yeah, the reason I harped on the dental care shit is because my sister in law and actual sister both worked on the dental buses that goes onto the reservations and fills cavities, cleans, etc. My sister in law is a pediatric dentist and gets injun kids all the time. Heard horror stories from her. She had to remove half a kid's child teeth in one visit because they were so corroded. Injun are so fucking stupid they don't teach their kids to brush their god damn teeth for christ's sake.

Then my mom works for the State in an administrative position for the Department of Health. She does a shit load of stuff but she had told me stories when she works with injuns to get medical treatment or whatever on our fucking tax dollars mind you. They're so god damn useless they don't even know how to call ahead to get pre approved for care. They are required to get the okay from the state before the state will cover anything and they cant even fill out a god damn form to have the taxpayers pay for their shit.

God damn I hate injuns so god damn much. They're such fucking subhumans. God I just want to gas them all.

There's a convenient sacred burial ground to protest about no matter where you put the pipeline.

the savages failed to innovate in any way or prove theyre human

>13 year old alcoholic on reservation beating dog mercilessly
>friend of mine who was working there (church) goes to save dog
>removes Drinks-from-Bottle from dog
>dog hobbles over to injun after beating
>injun throws bottle at dog, hitting it
>it still hobbles along
>nobody knows what happened

Maybe you should have invented gunpowder instead of letting the Chinese do it and then sell it to the Europeans.

Sucks to suck

A leaf who is not a faggot?

Who cares. The strong dominate the weak.

The West is weak now and as a result is being dominated and taken apart.

Oh poor Indians, they were in the process of building a world superpower before the evil white man arrived. Oh wait what's that? They weren't.
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