The Night of the Long Knives... Hitler and his inner circle organize a mafia-like murder conspiracy, brutally turn on their longstanding allies in the movement, dishonorably take many of them by surprise and shoot them.
But muh German virtue, muh nobility...
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go back to plebbit, cancerous homosexual
So what, the NSDAP should of kept faggots alive?
Nein, mein Hdbshit
You veel answer me, ja, and you veel answer me now
You don't turn on men who have fought by your side and plan a conspiracy to murder them early in the morning when they're waking up. You just don't. Homosexual or not (most weren't).
>Most weren't.
All those who died in the night of long knives were race traitors and degenerate.
suuure... why, cause der Fuhrer said so? It's not like he ever lied about anything, right? Lol. Lying was like drawing breath to him. He didn't even have the decency to tell the German public the truth of what happened in the NotLK
>USA edited Hitler's speech to the german public after war was declared on the US
then what are the differences between the original and the edit?
fags are disgusting and a huge liability to any movement. they had to go.
can you imagine the look on those faggots faces when the SS stormed into their orgy? hahahaha
He rose to power by calling his party National Socialism.
Some wanted that title to be literal, and were unfit to reside in his Germany. Thus he had them removed for the good of the continued functioning of the German government.
So you admit that he lied to the people to gain power, but for some reason you trust him about why he removed his political opponents
what did he lie about?
Trump needs to long knife pence,prebius and ryan
He let people continue to believe that socialist redistribution of some sort would be implemented, and instead of disabusing them of this notion through speech he purged his former allies through force. I know that Hitler made various remarks in which he explained his own interpretation of socialism, but he certainly did not take as many steps as he should have to admit to Germans that there would be no socialism in the common sense of the word, but that the movement would rather be corporatist with socialist cultural motifs and window dressing
What specifically did Hitler lie about?
It doesen't matter how loyal you're to your dictator, if you're either unrepresentable low life or someone who is seen as political opponent you're in danger.
Most people who idolize Hitler simply don't care about that kind of purges, same as people who idolize communist leaders don't care if they killed people.
That is exactly like saying that it's Trump's fault he will not live up to the expectations of neo-nazis
why? pence is part of Trump's inner circle.he should be the one rounding up the degenerates.
Without the warmongering aspect Pence would make a lot better president than Trump.
i think it's possible to be a fascist, read evola, think franco and pre-war mussolini were based, and not be a hitler loving stormfag. say what you want about hitler but he was the last of the great adventurer-conqueror types, the only reason he was so much more reviled than caesar, napoleon, alexander etc is he had a 20th century army to do it with and his enemies had a 20th century propaganda apparatus to demonize him.
Pence is his defense against assassination by any particularly butt-hurt liberals.
I am not quite sure about Prebius, but if he happened to be involved in the backstabbing of Trump by the republican party then by all means execute him.
imagine ghenghis khan or alexander with the wehrmacht behind them and try to tell me they wouldn't have killed millions too. hitler is evil but to call him the worst guy in history is pretty funny to me when guys like caligula were eating people's testicles in front of them and shit
caesar and alexander yes, napoleon not so much I think - napoleon was responsible for many atrocities but nothing comparable in scale to caesar, alexander, and hitler's use of mass killing. although, i am no fan of napoleon - he used france for his own ego-gratification, i don't think he ever really cared about it
that's the funny thing, that famous poem goes "first they came for [insert bunch of undesirables here]" but it was actually the closest supporters who got killed first kek
Yea and from our perspective it's relatively new thing. If we lived during the same generation as the one who fought in Napoleon's wars all we would hear is what a butcher he was.
In 100 years there will be someone new to hate more and Hitler is as forgotten as Napoleon now.
Poor Rohm, all he wanted was some hypermasculine, aryan D
We can all empathize
They did it so they couldnt be overthrown faggot
>m-muh education
Fuck off amerifag
Most arguments amerishts make are
>your country is even worse
>we made your country
Backstabbing is in line with German "virtue". The amount of backstabbing, poisoning and other dirty tricks used in German high societies is staggering and being treasonous cunt is their trademark diplomatic style.
Those were not longstanding allies of his, they were political opponents up to the point when they felt the court of public opinion was favoring Hitler, only then did they change their minds and offered support to Hitler.
Politicians are snakes and they will support who ever can ensure their position in life.
Hitler knew this and proceeded to cut the head off of the snake.
Would you say he drained the swamp?
>The Night of the Long Knives...
Which happened after Jews killed a prominent natsoc official
>How dare you purity spiral
See the assassination attempts on Adolf Hitler for more on why you assassinate others to make them afraid. Read more Cicero and Machiavelli.
ja mein kameraden
Kek
>Politicians are snakes and they will support who ever can ensure their position in life.
This. It was a genius political move to weed out the weak.
>killing a notorious homosexual who was shitting up the Nazi party with his stupid ideas of a 'Volksarmee' instead of the based Prussian militarism
>killing said faggot's supporters and any other dissidents to Hitler's ideals
>some retard implies these are all bad for any reason at all
They killed kikes, fags who had been hiding in the ranks, and fucking Strasserists. Fuck them all.
You must be new here. If you weren't you would have realized by now that typical Sup Forums fucks have absolutely no respect for honor, or even the Christian/Western values that they pretend to glorify). Instead, Sup Forums is largely composed of autistic sperglords... sperging out at whatever they can blame their shitty lot in life upon. Whether its globalism, woman, minorities, whatever, there is no rationality, no honor, no respect for the truth etc etc. Red pills are hate pills. Degeneracy is simply anything they don't like.
Examples:
>Sup Forums rails against liberals for blindly following their leadership
>Sup Forums absolutely worships Trump, he can do no wrong in most of their eyes
>Sup Forums rails against liberals for acting on emotion and not reason
>Sup Forums worships Donald Trump, who has flip flopped on his platform, says contradictory shit all the time...he is basically a demagogue who has created a cult of personality that appeals to Sup Forumss EMOTIONS
>Sup Forums rails against Muslim terrorists - tribalism bent on following their outdated dogmas, denigrating woman, outsiders and gays while advancing violence
>Sup Forums supports tribalism, is bent on following their outdated dogmas, denigrating woman, outsiders and gays while advancing violence
He's quarter kike. What in the world are you expecting from a massive enabler?
Napoleon was a butcher, not against the civilians but he waged war with the goal of destroying as many of the enemy as possible without caring about how many he lost. no one else could muster troops like he could and his massed columns were just murder for the french troops unlucky enough to be in the front ranks.
He did nothing wrong.
This is what will happen to the alt-lite opportunists
You write like a fucking redditor and are so fucking stupid you think these are examples of paradoxes, and not bullshit you've faked to make a point. Go back to r/politics and jerk off about how we can't let Trump get muh launch codes.
he's right tho
Nice pasta
>Implying anyone who is redpilled gives a shit about Trump
We care about whites and he was the most pro-white candidate. Fuck off shill, no one worships Trump. If he stops being pro-white he doesn't get our votes. Simple as that.
Fuck off I don't have to explain shit.
Weren't they planning to overthrow hitler? It's always in reaction to something when you look at it more closely but they leave it out for reasons.
Similar thing when they boycotted Jewish businesses, it was in reaction to Jews boycotting German products in America but they use it as an example of Jewish discrimination.
Sup Forums isn't one person. I really hate reddit so much.
>we r lejun
>we r hivmind
no evidence that they had any concrete plans to overthrow hitler that i know of, although they may have been flirting with the idea. but lots of groups were flirting with the idea, including the army - and hitler calculatedly decided to side with the army anyway and kill the SA leaders. then he then lied to the german people about what had happened, making up a story about a Rohm putsch
>Sup Forums isn't one person.
puh-lease. There is very little actual debate here. 99% of the time anyone advances a view that is not the typical pol platform, they are instantly dismissed as a shill - CTR, JIDF or whatever the boogeyman of the day might be. Take a step back and actually watch
His points are bullshit.
1. Sup Forums doesn't blindly follow Trump. When Sup Forums first heard about Trump, they were skeptical. Sup Forums doubts Trump all the time. P-E Trump MET with Romney and Sup Forums flipped the fuck out. Sup Forums is paranoid that Trump will sell out.
2. Trump doesn't contradict himself and you could only think that if you were a cuck who trusts the Jew York Times at their word. Trump has a clear plan and vision. You can literally go read it on his website RIGHT NOW if you doubt it. You'd have to be so fucking stupid to buy the media narrative that "Trump flip flops" that I can barely comprehend it. How fucking plugged into the system do you have to be?
3. Sup Forums has no issue with Islam denigrating women and gays. In fact, there's regular threads (mostly from Canadians) saying things like "Sup Forums should convert to Islam, look at all these things they do right..." Sup Forums has no issue with Islamic tribalism so much as Islam being at war with the West. That is primary issue here. If Muslims would fuck off, we'd be good.
Don't expect any legitimate responses, all you'll get is "they wuz jewish degenerates". These shitler lovers can see nothing beyond Jew and gentile, ironically becoming like the Jews, supporting their superiors for a hatred of gentiles, when the Jewish bankers and communists will kill them the moment it advances their own interests. Hitler was an anti-white power hungry cunt who killed Slavs and invaded the Netherlands and Norway for no damn reason, not to mention he killed a great number of men within and without his party, who were many times the man he was.
Death to Nazis, long live fascism.
The stormniggers or the Miloniggers?
>you'll never live in a Nazi state where BOYSU ROVU is lowkey accepted
why continue?
>Sup Forums doesn't blindly follow Trump
>Trump doesn't contradict himself
This is laughable, btw
>In fact, there's regular threads
If you actually go into those threads and read what people say.....its quite obvious that the acverage Sup Forumslock has no clue how similar their ideologies are compared to the actual enemy of the West - radical Islamic terrorists.
>.but lots of groups were flirting with the idea
So you needed to send a message. Hitler killed a faggot who was flirting with being a leader, one who had a cohort of followers, which would've created a weakened political entity in Germany. Instead Hitler killed possible dissenters and created a mass propaganda campaign to make it seem more "holy". All in all, a fair political move.
Let's try to answer this. See - the SA had a rather popular leader, Röhm. Röhm was an actual soldier in WW1, not like Hitler who was a courier behind the lines. Not only did he have charisma and influence, he was a real threat to the clique around Hiter. So, in the night of the long knives, they disposed of him and assumed full control of the party. It's an interesting episode similar to Stalins disposal of Kirov. It also shows the nature of the Nazi party and the power dynamics in it.
>brownshirts start pretty much reign of terror and get out of control
>german population becoming afraid
>Adolf Hitler PERSONALLY leads restore of normality
>normality: restored
Saying Hitler was evil for Night of Long Knives is like saying Mao was evil for toning down Cultural Revolution after it got out of hand.
>This is laughable, btw
Consider the trigger, Redditor. I guess when you lap up whatever r/politics feeds you like a niglet off the tit of the state Trump seems like a liar.
>If you actually go into those threads and read what people say.....its quite obvious that the acverage Sup Forumslock has no clue how similar their ideologies are compared to the actual enemy of the West - radical Islamic terrorists.
No, they generally accept how similar they are and just want to secure a similarly radical ideology for their own people.
Hitler could have just put all the SA people in jail indefinitely. There was no need to murder them all
Rohm was a faggot and was plotting a coup because he thought that, since he controlled the SA, he was more powerful than Hitler and could lead the country.
Also there were plenty of communists who converted to National Socialism when communism was banned, and they were rotting the party form the inside and also wanted to take power and needed to be dealt with.
Hitler was a dumbfuck failure. He and pussy krauts got their asses whooped back to the stoneage. The only thing more dumbfuck than Hitler are the toothless stormfags who wannabe like him.
>Hitler was an anti-white power hungry cunt who killed Slavs and invaded the Netherlands and Norway for no damn reason
Hitler invaded the Netherlands to remedy the effects of the British blockade seen in WW1, where Germany was essentially starved into submission.
Hitler invaded Norway because he was importing steel from Sweden crucial for his economy and the British could have easily invaded Norway and went into Sweden and shut down Hitler's whole operation. They were actually planning to do this too but were too late.
en.wikipedia.org
You're an idiot my man.
Anyways, there is literally nothing wrong with purging Strasserists and power hungry degenerates that risk toppling everything you have spent your life fighting for.
why murder them tho? you can just jail them. these people fought alongside you. why the mafia tactics?
>puh-lease
you have to go back.
Sup Forums Is made up of various right wing people but Nazis are still seen as "stormfags". We have fascists, traditionalists, monarchists, Nazis, nationalists, paleocons, neo-pagans, fundamentalist Christians, deists, athiests, Austrian schoolfags, etc. We get visitors from /leftypol/ often, including social democrats, syndicalists, and transhumanists as well. Anarcho-capitalists, anarcho primitivists, 1776fags.
When people say CTR/JIDF, its because those political institutions actually exists and actually troll forums. Sometimes they literally higher people who then go on to post threads about them being hired to shitpost by CTR. JIDF is real. Problem is, when someone has a shitlib argument and refuses to entertain another idea they are called CTR/JIDF because it is also in reference to you being "controlled". Fuck off and lurkmoar you absolute turbokike.
>people in jail indefinitely
That's not how you terrify your opponents. He needed to let his political opposition/possible saboteurs no that there would be no tolerance of disunity among the party.
>why the mafia tactics?
Politics is mafia like. Always has been. I seriously recommend you look into the history of the Catholic Church sometime.
Hitler was the white obama: myopic, pomp over circumstance, intellectually shortchanged, surrounded himself with yes-men, morally degenerate.
Proof is in the pudding: 9 million dead krauts, germany a smoking crater, laughing stalk of history.
>Explain yourselves, Hitler worshippers
Hitler worshippers are mostly athiests, so they justify murder and genocide as long as it suits their needs.
This is what happens when you believe in no absolute law and worship a man because he had good speeches.
Hitler was an evil man.
Hitler passed Aktion T4, which was why he needed to kill all the retards.
They were treasons. They thought they could take power.
Literally who cares? Out of all of the possible points you could use to not like Hitler, you choose to be butthurt about him killing a few people instead of throwing them in jail for eternity? Do you know how cucked that sounds?
National socialism isn't necessarily hitler/nazis. They had their own brand and its defunct. Larping as nazis at this point is cargo cult national socialism.
>Hitler who was a courier behind the lines
That's ignoring a lot of what he did.
Triggered.
>laughing stalk
>higher
hire
I cant stand that kind of autism
My point proven, read the posts linked below
"Muh it was okay to commit murder and euthanasia because Hitler said so in this speech. A fascist dictator would never lie, w-would he?
The mafia tactis were necessary because they didn't have full control yet, not even over the party. The new members, mainly socialists and communists, had to be brought in line. Röhm was gaining popularity. The army generals were sheming behind the back of the nazis in the government and the industrialists were still trying to get their way. Disposing of an redundant party organ that was about to cause problems brought the other factions in line.
The Weimar period is interesting in this regard - the political maneuvering is very deep and interesting. There should be a TV series about it.
You sound seriously butthurt, dude.
>STOP AGREEING WITH THINGS I DISAGREE WITH
>HURR DURRRR
Lol
>are mostly athiests
Gott mitt uns faggot. Also it was partially a loosely neo-volkische movement. Athiesm was not tolerated then, and neither is it now. Religion is a racial expression. We don't worship the man, we worship the ideals he tried , tried, to embody. Non-religious fags don't exist, they only claim to exist.
Röhm was an officer in a battalion. Let's just stick with the relevant part: Because of his war service, Röhm had the respect of the soldiers in the party. Hitler was regarded as somewhat inferior in that regard. The difference in reputation plus his likeablity were a real threat to Hiters position.
Wtf triggered you. We can stick to the facts and debate nazi party internal struggles. It's an interesting aspect of history and has nothing to do with Hitler worship.
>There should be a (((TV))) series about it.
No?
they killed commys on that night
you don't have to justify that
it is the correct action.
...
Röhm was a known homosexual, where do you think the uniforms and obsession with bodies come from. Other than that, the SA was one of two militant arms of the party. They competed with the SS for resources and funding from the party headquarters, ensuring loyalty and performance at the same time. Eventually, the SA became too powerful and had to be disposed of. Röhms homosexuality and some random accusation of race traitoring did the trick.
>a well respected officer
or
>a war hero who probably should've been promoted past corporal
I'll admit, coming from a military family, that it would be about 50/50. In reality they were fairly matched men in different regards, and for one to become "the" party head, the other would need to be eliminated. Fairly straightforward then.
Why? It would be a crossover between james bond and game of thrones. Fuck yeah, I'm getting rich.
What if all the "Death" camps where run by Soviets/Allies
>We can stick to the facts and debate nazi party internal struggles.
Okay. He slaughtered his political opponents because he wanted to consolidate his own power, despite the fact he himself had already attempted a coup, and had a hand in the assassination of Rathenau.
I don't know why people bother defending this. All dictators kill political opponents, just because Hitler had good speeches, doesn't mean he was any different.
Hitler was cleansing his movement of fags and degenerates. That was a proper thing to do.
>Athiesm was not tolerated then
You are a literal retard. Hitler ordered the execution and imprisonment of Priests. Do you honestly think if his followers were Christian, they would have continued to follow him?
>and neither is it now.
You do realise atheism is incredibly popular, and seen as normal in the society of today.
>Religion is a racial expression
Ahh yes, worshipping a middle eastern man, and practising an abrahamic religion screams 'racial expression'.
>james bond and game of thrones
Look, the Hollywood being jewish shills thing is completely true. The film industry is very tightly controlled, there's no way you would get this past the (((prodcuers))) without having to sprinkle in the 6 gorillian. Plus Rohm being gay, you know how much they'd want you to focus on how the Nazis were just repressing their homosexual feelings into becoming murdering lunatics. Any attempt at showing history accurately would be met with disdain.
>Makes some stupid vague unfounded generalization
>Get told that Trump doesn't contradict himself
>Come back with the brilliant irrefutable nonargument of "this is laughable"
Do you work at TYT by any chance?
>a well respected officer
Dude, this guy was present from the start of the war, got wounded three times, participated in the battles of the Meuse, Verdun, Flanders and had an artificial nose. But yes, its a case of house cleaning. Same with Kirov and Stalin.
>of Priests
Catholics
>You do realize atheism is popular today.
>he hasn't read Nietzsche
They're not athiests, they are dispirited Christians who have the same moral order from tradition which they still loosely believe in. Throw some pussy athiestfag into a life threatening situation/ haunted location (like Excorcist house tier) with no seeming way of escape and you'll see them pray before long. They worship logos and mass media as though it were their God, but they cannot escape their heritage.
>Ahh yes, worshipping a middle eastern man, and practising an abrahamic religion screams 'racial expression'.
>Not knowing anything about church history
You do realize that to spread itself Christianity adopted pagan and other esoteric religious traditions to ensure it spreaded all throughout Europe, right? Also
>he thinks I'm a christcuck
>Do you honestly think if his followers were Christian, they would have continued to follow him?
Are you saying all nazis were atheists? Why wouldn't they follow him?
No he wasn't any different. He had a knack for organization of his party though. Its really ineresting, he always had two or more redundant organizations that would compete for influence with each other, ensuring their loyalty to their superiors. It went all the way down from local party officials to his cabinet. I'm more interested in the technical aspect, I'm no socialist and I certainly don't approve of his policies. I think people defend Hitler because the whole ideology hinges on him or a leader, and the leader needs to be immaculate for the ideology to work.
>H-He's LITERALLY HITLER!
Is that really the best argument you can come up with?
>Dude, this guy was present from the start of the war, got wounded three times, participated in the battles of the Meuse, Verdun, Flanders and had an artificial nose
I'm not implying that he wasn't a badass as was the case with Hitler, both were obviously military /soldiering fanatics, but in the eyes of the public both would've been seen as more or less equals. Even though Hitler never became more than a corporal he would still demand respect for the intensity of his service and decorations as well as Rohm did. But yeah I think we're in agreance on the house cleaning.
Other than the homosexuality, they had fairly similar personas.
>christianity has no racial expression
>christianity adopted european traditions
make up your mind
>Catholics
And?
>They're not athiests, they are dispirited Christians who have the same moral order from tradition which they still loosely believe in. Throw some pussy athiestfag into a life threatening situation/ haunted location (like Excorcist house tier) with no seeming way of escape and you'll see them pray before long. They worship logos and mass media as though it were their God, but they cannot escape their heritage.
People who murder their unborn children? People who have never been to church? People who expressly deny God and any acknowledgement of God? People who protest priests and the word of God? People who commit adultery and indulge in a hedonistic lifestyle because they expressively deny God's existence? Ahh yes, surely you know that they are Christians who are just confused, I mean, what do they know? You are an idiot.
>You do realize that to spread itself Christianity adopted pagan and other esoteric religious traditions to ensure it spreaded all throughout Europe, right? Also
Does not matter. It is a religion that worships a middle eastern man. Christianity does not scream 'racial expression'.
>>he thinks I'm a christcuck
Oh no user, you are just a dispirited Christian. You are just confused, I know more about you than you.
This is why no one takes Nazicucks seriously. You are fucking retarded.