Why aren't white western Europeans religious anymore?

Why aren't white western Europeans religious anymore?

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They haven't passed their rebellious stage yet.

Religion is for the weak minded. Originally a way to deal with the loss of a loved one. We simply embrace that it's natural and we will all share that fate instead of fooling yourself that there's a secret man in the sky that will make your life continue after you die.

t. mohammed

Then why did your country worship fucking animals living in the sky for centuries?

>Religion is for the weak minded.
why do you keep importing muslims then

what is your end game

hows that atheism working out for you sven cuck?

You do realise your country is curring dying and being replaced by dindus and mohammeds right?

religion makes you strong in terms of socioeconomic warfare, average mud thinks of children when he has money, average swede thinks of new car or new apartment

Why is anybody religious anymore? I mean, I can understand it from a cultural and moral perspective, but you have to be seriously mentally handicapped to genuinely believe that some magical Jewish sandnigger is going to descend from the heavens and whisk you away to his kingdom in the clouds.

also religion keeps wymmyn in check escpecially when you have relatable saints (mary, faustina, joan d'arc etc)

The church here says the Islamic god is the same as the Christian god (at least they did back in 2011 last I checked). And now there's a Lesbian bishop and all they do is promote Cultural Marxism, tens of thousands of people quit their Church membership due to all these things over the years. And do keep in mind that those that were actual Christians were a small minority here. Not sure there are that many left now.

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There is no such thing as an atheist who is even remotely intelligent.

yeah exactly, because you fell for the protestant meme.

You have to be a fucking idiot to take anything serious from a book that says some cunt rounded up every animal species on earth on a filthy boat he hand built.

Never been religious, never known an ethnic Swede that were.

No such thing as an intelligent atheist. No such thing as a well adjusted atheist either. Nihilism is for edgy 14 year olds. If you haven't grown out of that shit yet, you must be suffering from the reprobate mind.

They've evolved beyond religion

No the Catholics are far more adamant about that statement than Protestants. The Catholics started the Interfaith dialogoue where they meet with Jews and Muslims and say, "see we aren't that different after all". They also put Abrahamic religions in a special class of their own.

The opposite is the case for me.

I think we're at a point in our evolution where when we developed abstract thought, we've struggled with depression and our own consciousness. Religion feels like something that naturally develops to help us come to terms with those feelings.

I'm a cultural Christian, I can see where Christianity fed off of pagan traditions and other religions, but I think it's the best, most compassionate religion. When I visit local churches I get a sense of the traditions that came before and all of the local people that worshiped there. It makes me feel proud.

I love the ornate artwork. I go to my local cathedral a lot to take it all in, and seeing the carvings of saints and the stories told, all layering on top of each other is very humbling. You see you're part of something larger than just you, and these sculptures of huddled figures help represent that to me.

I got really down when I was thinking about the state of the world a few years back, and the liberal elite brainwashing, and I suppose it has made me more steadfast in my beliefs and outlook. In an odd way it's given me hope.

My girlfriend is starting to show signs too, and came with me to church a few times and wants to go to Christmas sermons. I'm hoping we're starting to see a reaction in people.

Keep telling yourself that.

exactly, religion is power, power that creates life, settlements etc

Yeah you gotta be real smart to believe everything you were taught in the (((public education system))) without any semblance of critical thought. Atheism far more Jewish than Christianity, you would know that if you had ever done any honest research into history. Pic related you mouth-breathing atheist dumb fucking faggot.

I don't blame them.

This part of Europe always did everything with religion in mind, not giving a fuck about their single corrupt souls.
That's why white, let's say Germans are almost never corrupt.

I am excluding caliphate of Swedistan for obvious reasons.

We aren't attacking your view, we're just expressing our own. You can keep being religious, it's your right after all. We already had the Dark Ages, so I myself will decline.

>The church here says the Islamic god is the same as the Christian god

Absolutely incorrect in every possible way. Even from a secular perspective, no honest study of the Bible and the Koran can leave you with the impression that these texts are about the same deity. Your entire country is shit and I'm pretty sure it's not worth saving.

Because we educate our kids properly, and we present them with many beliefs so that they're able to come to a conclusion that is not only reasonable but also in line with who they are as individuals.

Exactly, and your country has suffered for it. Your retarded atheistic worldview has led to such widespread moral relativism that your country imports rapists, feeds them, and excuses their behaviors. There is no such thing as an intelligent atheist.

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No. You tell your children that each way of life is just as good as every other, so your children become incapable of understanding that Buckingham palace is better than a mud hut in Uganda. Atheism killed Sweden.

There you go, cultural and moral. Also tradition, it feels like a passing on of the torch, and something that can bring people together.

It's stupid saying this, but it's sort of what I like about the old golden and silver age Marvel and DC comics. They're myths. suspension of disbelief can go out of the window, because you can see it as allegorical.

My concept of God is the best of humanity.
My dad is the same, and we came to the conclusions separately. He was an angry atheist for the majority of his life when his father died in an accident, but he sees the value in old works of art and parables and history. I started to see a change in him when he felt under attack from PC culture a few years back, and his anger changed into something else.

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I see you couldn't post an actual reply, I understand your time constraints, seeing as how you have to make sure Ahmed's laundry gets done before he gets done fucking your daughter. Swedes are worse than Canadians.

just changed from atheism to zen buddhism

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Boy, you best be Orthodox. After Vatican II, the Roman Catholic Church became Protestant.

Wow, you sound like an impressionable faggot

As long as religious means asswipe fundie groups like any American religious organization with "freedom" in it's name, Christianity will suffer.

Look at the athiest logo..
Also white men were not breed to worship a Jewish middle eastern god so naturally their roots prevail. Thats like trying to teach a lion to use the litter box

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Atheism is far more Jewish than Christianity.

I like how there is no source to prove that West Europe isn't actually religious anymore.

Because of American kikes.

Most scientist are atheists you retard

Modern scientists aren't scientists, retard.

I know. Im saying Athiesm is a Jewish conspiracy to rid whites of their cultural values. The problem is white's cultural values are based around another Jewish myth. The population is still much better under christianity than under atheism. communisms practically force atheism.

Atheism existed before the antisemitism became a thing

There is no such thing as an intelligent atheist. Atheism is blind faith placed in Jewish education.

atheism became a word for a new religion of anticlerical leftist jews

when I grew up being atheist just meant you weren't religious but as always americans exported their stupidity

>Atheism is blind faith placed in Jewish education
If you don't see how much irony and hypocricy your baseless statement contains, you're not worth my time.

They are. They're Muslims.

Because all the religious zealots left Europe centuries ago. Now retards are your problem, America :)

>HURR DURR CHRISTIANS WORSHIP A JEW GOD DURRRRRRRRRRR

If you actually think that's the case, you have added evidence to my theory that there is such thing as an intelligent atheist.

They're religious. Plenty of mosques throughout Europe. Religion is alive in Europe.

>pay 200-300€ church taxes/year
>never use any of there services but decide to stay anyway because its traditions and shiet
>rapefugee crisis happen
>church starts to shelter illegals and spread socialist propaganda
>resign from church

Europe hasn't been as weak as it is now for 1500 years.

Sad but true

Protestantism. Not even once.

Is it bad that I wouldn't care if Europe was Islamic as long as we were white? What religion we follow doesn't matter, our people matter.

>Religion is for the weak minded.

This is true. And look what happened to those weak minded people who weren't raised in religious morals.

yes its very bad, because not being infected with the islamic hivemind and inbreeding is the reason europe ruled the world so long in the first place.

Traditional religious morals are designed around a primarily agricultural society. The industrial revolution ended any use for them.

Crime rates and pornography use are highest in countries and areas with the highest rates of religious belief.

Not an argument.
Most of the Russians didn't go through religious indoctrination in their childhood or were just unaffected by it. Most young people either never believed in god(s) or stopped believing at some point. And yet, very little of them support liberal degeneracy.

Atheism was first invented by the Greeks. It's more European than most religions especially Christianity.

To be an atheist is to embrace reality. There is zero evidence for God. Zero. None. Nada. Atheists simply embrace this fact of life because they don't shun the truth because it makes them feel good. Deluded religious nuts ITT haven't even attempted to prove that a God exists let alone their version of God is the true God. Basically you're all a bunch of retarded Neanderthals who belong in the Dark Ages.

islam is not a religion

religion =/= morals

"Invented" something that you grow up thinking naturally, yeah I don't think so.

False. Most kids develop a belief in a god/creator even when raised by atheist parents. The Greeks looked beyond that. sorry Sven, but you're an idiot. Go back to sucking Abdul's cock.

>Want to join my cult?
>No man
>You're an Atheist
>I am?
>Yeah you filthy Atheist

>There is zero evidence for God. Zero. None. Nada.
Dude, you're looking at the problem from the wrong perspective. You're trying to prove a single religion wrong, not the entire idea of religion. That's not very atheistic, just anti-christian

Jewish propagnada

Degenerates don't like being told they are going to burn, that and its a load of bollocks.

>if you don't believe what I don't believe you're a retard

Epic

>That's not very atheistic, just anti-christian
Atheism = anti-Christian

How often do you see atheists skewering Islam, or Judaism?

Uhh... Everyday?
Dude, all libertards are atheists, but not all atheists are libertards. In fact, most of them are not. The West doesn't represent the entire world, you narcissistic motherfuckers.

Also

>no arguments on 1 thread of a Japanese tea trading empourium clearly means God don't real xD

>How often do you see atheists skewering Islam, or Judaism?

Think you got some Negroid genetics in you mate.

If your sister is a typical Swedish woman then she probably has a negroid in her, mate

No but seriously, that sentence shows your lack of mental capacity, your ancestors must've mixed with some Negroid.

I, too, can extrapolate a person's mental capacity from 1 sentence :^)

I am not surprised you can't.

>christianity = dark ages xd xd

Gotem

Medieval life and society was based around religion so it was impractical to be athiest. Now that that's gone many people simply don't care.

Also there is a cycle to social piety: when times are shit, people fall back to God.
The pious make society stable and good.
When people are rich they don't care about God anymore since they think they don't need him or religion
Society gets shit since everyone is degenerate again

This cycle is seen too in the bible itself countless times: Israel would do this very often until Christ came in.

But I am a practicing Roman Catholic, user

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Religion is for shitskins

those same shitskins are going to outbreed you

wew

Western Christianity was largely roman Catholicism for the most part.
The key difference between the roman church, and orthodox Christianity is the Roman Church put's a huge emphasis on reason/rationalism and human logic. They to this to the point where saying reason can't help you understand god is literally heresy. With people like thomas aquinas, a huge focus was put on being reasonable and rational. This led to far more legalistic and less spiritual church where you only did stuff to meet certain measures for salvation (including paying your way into heaven.)

People aren't rational and if they act as though they are they just end up with tons of confirmation bias for what they want anyway. This opened the Roman Church up to tons of problems, most significant of which was the protestants. It largely spread just because kings wanted more power or take land from monasteries (were very large and powerful before, often had their own currencies).


Two of the major principals of Protestantism is sola fide (by faith alone) and sola scriptura (by scripture alone). By faith alone generally meaning you dont actually have to act well and moral to follow the bible, because you are saved by your faith and not your works. (Orthodox view is if you have faith, you will do good works but salvation is only by the grace of god) Sola scriptura means removing value from tradition, and whatever you read into the bible is the truth.

Where all the different denominations come from, and people just serving their biases. It (not at first and some still maintain some traditions) removed the value and heart of the church. It kept splintering to the point the churches are just whatever group of people happen to be together.

In the orthodox church everything must fit with tradition, in Protestantism it's whatever fits with your own personal feelings and interpretations of scripture. The problems that arise are obvious. Catholicism has slowly rotted away due to it's value on human reason, and that valuing is what gave Protestantism it's basis in the first place.

Though something important to point out that the doctrine of some protestant groups are still quite active in secular society today, and much of modern western culture is largely based off of some protestant groups, with even less weight then it already had though.

Now people have a huge value on reason which just leads to them being manipulated and getting lost in walls of confirmation bias. People are far more susceptible to propaganda, and reject the truth in Christ because they have accepted complete falsehoods as fact.

This is a good podcast on the history of christian doctrine which I highly recommend. ancientfaith.com/podcasts/orthodoxyheterodoxy Through the history of christianity you see the history of the west.


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