Sup Forums actually thinks this is a bad idea

>Sup Forums actually thinks this is a bad idea

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I don't think it's a bad idea I'm just against handing out free shit.

It's you who pays for the church to exist in the first place you mong

It is donated money. You cannot tax it.

Yes and mosques and temples...and the tax rate should be based in the average income of the congregation :^)

>implying i should pay for cucks and sjw to get a gender studies degree
should only be funding stem programs desu

>Tax the churches
>But never the synagogues

>All just so some fat SJW won't have to pay for their Nigger hip hop studies degree

This is a terrible idea. It would only dilute the already diluted college graduate pool.

I don't donate to the government, I pay taxes to it

>church
>business

godless manchildren actually believe this

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>and the tax rate should be based in the average income of the congregation :^)

Devilish.

Didn't Americans make a big stink about being both taxed and represented?

Nice numbers

Because being against rape is an opinion held by mostly everyone, not specific to being Christian.

>people think charities are businesses
fucking morons.

shoo shoo potato jew

Yes, it's either people forgot or they don't care.

This faggy facebook page I used to like. Then it became too preachy in their parody type way. And somehow seemed pro hillary because of its bias.

>female priest
fucking protestcucks

>Female priest
>Pastor

>Protestants

>university takes the money
>raises tuition fees because people will pay anyway
>churches become unsustainable because they are not for profit

It's like people actually believe in this socialist crap. They do not realise that student debt comes from the meddling of the state in private education already.

>missing the point this much

If you tax the churches, you have to allow them to form PACs and lobby Congress. They'll be the new Citizen's United.

"No Taxation without Representation" remember that saying? It's the sole reason why we don't tax religious institutions. Because we refuse to represent them, knowing it's important to separate Church and State.

Also, taxing Churches and no other religious institution can be seen as discriminatory against the Christian religion. If you tax the church, you also gotta tax the mosques/synagogues/temples.

Funny, I don't see any of the cucks in your images mentioning that. I wonder what they were saying about Trump's "muslim ban" though. Surely that was an attack on freedom of religion, but what they suggest isn't!

If they were all charities, my tax money wouldn't be going to some dude and his six kids.
My town has more churches than McDonald's.

i used to support sanders until he said he would give out free college
anyone who thinks this is viable is off their rocker

>taxing church so people can get useless degrees

If they tax churches the money should go to funding trade schools, not college where you can get bullshit degrees, especially for free. College is a privilege, not a right.

Charities are a business to those that ask for it, yes. If you don't believe churches are rot and mostly a facade you're an idiot.

The churches will shut down and there wont be any money.

>clinton foundation
>red cross
good thing we dumped a gorrilion burgerbux into helping build one whole mud hut!

No more charity for apefrica and shelters in murica that house and feed mainly niggers, i'm ok with that.

>My town has more churches than McDonald's.
I don't know if this is different in fatasfuckistan, but this is usually the norm everywhere

Because they aren't businesses also one of the churches near me is being turned into a mosque because they didn't have enough money to keep it going.

If people want their status symbol they should have to pay for it.

Except muzzies

Burn the Church down before it becomes a radicalization centre leaf.

Churches shouldnt be taxed


They should be demolished

>He can't google for churches for sale, which is an implicit indication of them going out of business

I'd rather not go to jail and I don't have 9 million dollars to pay for the damages.

That is correct. It will even further devalue the worth of a diploma, and further exacerbate the problem people have with the current job market.

>"No Taxation without Representation" remember that saying?

Religious people can vote and of course mosques, synagogues, etc. would be taxed too. The idea would be to end tax exemptions for religious institutions. Doing this would be a step toward simplifying the tax code and eliminate the ban on religious institutions advocating politically.

Ultimately there should be no exception, credits, deductions, etc. just a flat rate based on income level. With no loopholes the effective rate would be a fraction of what it is now and everyone would have to pay in something.

I'm not asking you to get caught.

The population of my town is around 120,000. We have 9 McDonald's. I would check how many churches we have but I'm sure that's much higher than I'd like to count.

I attend one of those churches around 2007-2009 and all they spent their money on was building additions and events for the congregation; no actual charity work. Every once in awhile they'd send a couple fags over to mud hut land but that was it.

Anyone remember when having a college degree meant something?

Now it's becoming grades 13-17.

I'm catholic and I'm OK with taxing churches.
Not only churches, but any religious organizations, NGO and charity groups.
It can only help fighting corruption.

>The population of my town is around 120,000. We have 9 McDonald's.
Holy fuck. The memes are real

>every time money changes hands the government should get a slice

I don't have any merchants saved but I wish I did.

>the government should only get a slice of money changing hands from those too small, poor, or unorganized to lobby for exemptions

Here's a merchant for you.

when will these fucks understand that "free" universities work here in Europe because they are in the public sector. That's what America needs to do improve its public colleges for fuck's sake not give more money to students so that private universities can jack up the prices

To be fair, I do live in the Midwest.
We're known to be fat and into the whole god thing, for the most part. And meth.

Churches should be taxed if they are for profit

Reddit: the account

Can't pay for your useless Womyn's Afrocentric studies degree? Mommy and daddy don't want to pay the bill? Get the Christians to pay for something that spits on their beliefs! I fucking hate millennial onesy wearing Cocoa drinking numale faggots.

Here is a hint, I graduated college in 95, and I paid my fucking student loan back in 3 years by fucking putting more money on it than the damn minimum payment. I put on my big boy pants and made sacrifices. And I didn't get a shit degree that there are no fucking jobs for OR a degree that HR people see and throw away your resume. in no real world employment would gender studies ever be considered an asset.

I loved the alternating "Jesus saves" and "adult novelty/bookstore" billboard I saw when living in Missouri.

>And meth
I thought that was the thing in the south west.
t.breaking bad filthy casual

>removing the boundary between church and state for tax dollars
>opening way for theocracy
the atheists should've thought this one through

Do you know what non-profit means? It simply means that revenue = expenses. It doesn't mean you can't have a big salary, fancy office, private jet, etc.

Stupid people should get a decent job and start a family, not go to college.

Anyone who understands how the real world works thinks this is a bad idea

>opening way for theocracy
In no way does it do that.

>Not an argument

>Separation of church and state
>let's have the church pay taxes to the state
>now the church has a say in how the state is run

Genius idea.

Why are liberals perpetual 12 year olds? That is not an adult thought.

Or better yet, cap tuition for public schools and get rid of superfluous personnel and labs. Problem fucking solved

>>Sup Forums actually thinks this is a bad idea
Any entity you tax has a right to representation in government. If you want Religious entities directly lobbying government then taxing them is how you would make that into a reality.

"College for everyone" isn't feasible. There's no country in the world that can afford to provide higher education to everyone. Nations that pay for or supplement higher education do so by rationing it AND lowering its quality.

"Remove Student Debt" only requires repealing the acts that made that debt inescapable. Those same acts provided Federal Guarantees on those loans.

This accomplishes two things at once.

1. These loans can be escaped through bankruptcy.

2. As a result of #1, lending institutions now have to measure the risks involved in signing these loans and providing them to individuals that are more likely to default on them. In other words they'll start rationing them and stop pushing people that can't afford them in the long term into signing onto them.

It would be better if intelligent people start a family and stupid ones stay virgin, just my opinion.

>paying tax on practicing religion.
>not evil

Yes I think plunder is a shitty idea. Yes I think the 1st amendment is a good idea.

yeah who the hell still attend church
ITS 2016 DUUUDDEE

There need to be more workers than intellectuals.

There's a rape group on FB? Sorry I don't have a Facebook account so I can't check this.

>I'm a pastor
>Therefore my opinion on this matter is more important than yours

>separation of church and state is not in the constitution
>the church has a say via its congregation who can vote that is to universal suffrage

This would fundamentally change nothing. Churches already advocate politically and the religious have influence. Ever heard of evangelical voters?

It is my opinion that getting rid off the influence of the catholic church was good for GB and not getting rid off it was very, very bad for Germany. Historically speaking.
The only good thing the catholic church ever did was spreading anti-semitism in the past.

>tfw no one noticed my ebin post

Also if they tax religions in general they are going to have to go through the the whole debacle they faced when trying to tax scientology.

As far as I know, churches in the US get financed through donations, which are not a taxable income. Taxing churches would set a precedent to taxing donations to fighting cancer and helping orphans. So nobody is going to do that.

However, here in Russia that a lot of people on Sup Forums praise, churches actually do business. Inside or next to a church is always a shop that sells everything from candles to the Bible and icons, and other religious items. With a hella profit. Bringing your own candles to the church is prohibited lol. All the religious procedures at the church, such as baptizing, marriage, funeral, confessions, etc. — are all paid for. Not just "donate as much as you like", there is actually a price list for all these services. And none of it is taxed.
By the way, the Russian Orthodox Church also owns a fucking bank. The bank does pay the corporate income tax, but its dividends to the church are also not taxed.
The church is also famous for a lot of scandals about importing alcohol tax-free and selling it on the black market, etc.
That's why Russian priests mostly drive Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse.

And by stupid I don't mean white trash/niggers, I mean ordinary people

>Any entity you tax has a right to representation in government

Please point me to the section in the Constitution which states this.

Tell that to the Protestants. Catholic churches are always opening orphanages, clinics, shelters, etc. The heretic Christians on the other hand believe in "prosperity gospel" shit and "once saved always saved" which makes them fucking lazy and selfish. That's not to say I'm a socialist, but the Catholic church is the LARGEST charity organization in the world. FUCK OFF, CHRISTIANS! BURN IN HELL!

Not to mention superfluous degree programs. In my city the public college is the largest employer in the area, theres no reason this needs to be true. Humanities and art departments are nothing but a drain on the public. In short, clear the fucking bloat out and only have the necessary/useful programs and tuition would drop staggeringly

What's wrong with that? If you don't add to the building you can't grow your congregation. If you don't have events you won't keep your congregation

this

Chill it, Sweden. You're two steps away from awakening Marx.

>When are they gonna be against rape?

8th Commandment: Thou shalt not steal.

Fun Fact: Judaism didn't traditionally consider premarital sex to be "Adultery" if neither of the participants were married.

not yet

so?

strawman


subjective

so?

fallacious

seperation of church and state is already violated by giving them exemption from taxation, fucking imbecile

>now the church has a say in how the state is run

no

This is maximally offensive and we should start to be vocally offended by this.

>fedoras get into the Legislature
>"we're going to tax all religious organizations by 80% but this is no way going to stop you from practicing your religion in an organized fashion just pay up your fair share"

kys

>college for everyone
>Bourgeois leftists think this is a good idea

Damn great arguments my man

Sure, but that's indirect petitioning. They're influencing their congregation, to get them to influence their representatives.

Removing tax exemption requires that the church be represented directly, so they would have the right to petition directly.

>The woes of making a charitable religion make sense in a capitalist society.

imbecile.

lol

getting a god-fearing, religious group to pay for a godless atheist's college tuition in gender studies

ok

Also churches can lobby just like any other business BUT......
>all of their income is "donations"

>Government
>Taxing

What next building roads and sidewalks? Fuck off with your statist buggery

>Removing tax exemption requires that the church be represented directly

Citation needed. Please provide the relevant section of the united state Constitution which states this.

The reason churches are not taxed is because they can provide local charitable services cheaper and more effectively than the government can.

>remove student debt

They chose to take those loans and they have to pay it back. Its called personal responsibility, which liberals know nothing about.