Leave the red states to burn?

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tl;dr version
>Blue States put in the most money to the Federal government.
>Red States take the most welfare from the Federal government
>Blue States that are still under State Democratic control should restructure their taxes to keep their wealthy and corporations in state and then use the money they no longer owe to the federate government to improve themselves and let the red welfare states flounder.

Okay zombie frog posters and paid Russian shills. Without resorting to >WaPo, ad homos, or invoking voodoo economics, how is this a losing strategy?

Why are they so warlike?

Civil war 2 when?

>Red States take the most welfare from the Federal government
>Red states have the most niggers
mmh rally maed methink

They fail to take into account there are more red states, they just have higher population density in blue areas, for starters

GOOD!

Fuck those underhanded red-state parasites.

>trusting fake news like Washingtonpost

Do it. We'll just stop sending food and cut off water and use it to support our own. Then we'll kick the fatties and welfare queens out, we only enable them because of democrats anyways. Do it so we can become stronger. Please do it.

>how is this a losing strategy?
republicans put the blame fully on the democrats further shitshattering the hold over the blacks

>trump won 30 states plus a piece of maine
>obamas landslide didnt even get that many
>lets pretend that 19 states support the enitre rest of the country
LMAO

> Blue states don't want to associate with red states

> red states produce the majority of food
> people in red states tend to collect guns
> people in red states tend to hunt
> many veterans tend to be from red states or are republican

I hope the blues leave soon

>Blue states
>not doing everything in their power to fuck over businesses in the name of "muh fair share"

I live in CA, the notion that this state is capable of "just changing their tax codes" and still maintain its libtard stances on business taxes is laughable. The only reason we have any money is because of Hollywood, silicon Valley tech cucks and porn (which the state is constantly trying to destroy).

>We'll just stop sending food

Because fuck your farmers? And the blue states can't just buy from Brazil and Mexico?

>Social justice for all!
>We need equality now!
>Fight the 1%!
>$15 minimum wage!
>Working class power!
>Oh shit, they didn't vote for us? Gas the poor, class war now!

The left used to represent and work for the working class.
At some point in the last couple of decades, they decided that "representation" was no longer enough for them and their ideological goals, and that they needed to lead the working class instead.
The logical conclusion of this is that these days, as far as the left is concerned, working people are only mindless herd animals whose sole job is to get the left into power. We work for them now, not the other way around.

Now that the working classes have rejected leftism, the left wants to hurt and punish regular working people for our insubordination.

The left is now the sworn enemy of the working class. They aren't even trying to hide it any more - they openly say that they hate the poor.

I wonder what Marx would say about today's left?

An earthquake can't hit California soon enough.

>Buying food from spics
We piss in your cereals and soft drinks just so you know. So enjoy that.

I don't care what you do with your safespaces democuck, fucking do it already.

The left is now the imperial power who demands things go their way. Its not about helping the poor or working class. Its about tokenism, race, issues and helping the majority while discarding the minority when they no longer serve them as well as forsaking members of the races they defend when they no longer support them..

Texas is actually a Red state that gives more to the feds than it takes, and both Texas and California grow a ton of food.

So us Blue states + Texas can do alright without all you dirty third worlder states mooching off of us.

Get fucked sideways.

>The red states feed most of the country
wonder what side would give up first

>+ Texas
Thinking Texas would ever side with you degenerate fagots.

That's accurate. It's sad, more than anything.

The old left achieved a few good things and had some truly great men in their ranks. The modern left is a truly despicable and vile empire of deceit and cruelty. It was inevitable that it would end like this, but it doesn't make their downfall any less depressing.

> vote in your economic interest republicans

>n-no not like that

>libcuck with a gun
>Texas is our greatest ally!

It's also because many red states have more federal land and military bases which is often included in the figure of "federal spending". It's a useless comparison.

Avocados aren't really food user. But go ahead and do it faggots, I want an excuse for you to be reconquered by the US and have all your wealth confiscated in the name of MAGA.

>Blue states restructure their taxes
>Niggers and welfare faggots find out what dems are dong
>1000 years rule for Republicans

When all the productive people in the blue states mass exodus to the better-quality of life red states like theyve been doing for a quarter century.

They still control the media and they will do their damnedest to try and enforce their views while only demonizing the right or center while only glorifying their new "left" regime. I honestly hope it ends, but as long as the media remains their platform, I can't help but be doubtful.

>Texas
>Siding with anyone

LONE star state, nigger. Jesus.

Then all the welfare recipients would move and repeat lol you don't seem to understand people

(you) won't do any of that internet tough guy

There won't be anybody left in blue states to pay taxes once the deportations start.

>liberals claim to support the poor
>liberals claim to support blacks
>they want to do this
>liberal logic

Thank God, someone else finally raised this point.

All the big bases are in the south or Midwest, excepting a few in California.

>lefties want to cut federal taxes
Sounds good to me, let's do it.

Bullshit. If the states that make money use the Trump tax cuts to keep the money in their own states and not propping up Alabama, then there would be no reason to move out.


Texas would certainly agree to stop paying other states money, I don't know what you are implying.

Its the republican rule right now that's going to let the dems do this, retard.

You all missed one of the important reasons: Farming subsidies.

All farmers of most crops get some kind of subsidy, but but where are the farms? Red states, flyover country.

Because they're basically doing what we want them to (to piss us off?)

Texan here, we hate you blue cucks

>So us Blue states + Texas can do alright without all you dirty third worlder states mooching off of us.

Leave us out of your group of degenerates you chucklefuck.

>we didn't win so we're gonna try to burn it all down

It won't work anyway but god damn the left is going full retard harder than usual lately. What a bunch of fucking children.

>(you) won't do any of that internet tough guy
And you ain't ever getting a madame president.

avocado and almonds are not staple you fuckwit, and I dont think commiefornia would have any agriculture any longer with that drought you guys are having
also, with Texas? They got a alot of spics but they are not dumb

Hey, your free to give all your states money in handouts to Washington that you want.

This kinda shit reminds me of that one kid who threatens to go home and take his ball with him when things don't go his way.
It appeals to the naive and weak willed who fall in line under the smallest amount of fear mongering pressure.

Its rather concerning that these child-like adults have so much influence in one of the most powerful countries in the world. They're willing to burn it and global stability to the ground for the sake of getting their way and are even willing to accept WWIII if it was Clinton who started it despite hating Trump for the exact same reason.

A lot of the red states (the ones in the south) are full of niggers.

Blue states use Tax policy and zoning rules to export their poor and unemployed to red states.

How old is that map, leaf?

No wonder commiefornia loves minorities so much. They barely have any.

Any statistic in the US is skewed by fucking nigger baboons. This includes the """urban""" vote.

>agriculture

And who are the reds states gonna sell their crops to if not blue states?

Whose going to subsidize their farmers so that they don't go under?

You can't cut us off from the food or ells you just make more unemployment for yourselves.

They have hispanics and chinks. LA has blacks too.

Country boys can survive

The Government Lies about census data, In actuality Minorities are far more numerous than reported.

Yeah, it's pretty disturbing. The amount of shit the left voters bought into is even worse - almost everything they were afraid of Trump possibly doing, Hillary said she WOULD do, barring deportation, and they just went right along with it because "anyone but trump". For fuck's sake she even wanted to go to war with Russia when we're fighting the same damned enemy. The Cold War's been over for twenty years.

Most of your blue states are just a few blue counties with high population density. even the blue states are mostly red counties. There likes 400 blue counties and 2300 red counties in this country.

You can't do shit without the red

How is this a strategy? Your plan is for you to become us. Please by all means do this.

They must be forgetting there aren't "blue states" besides three considering only THREE FUCKING STATES there are democrat governorship and senate/representative majorities.

Red states often have more military bases and farms which benefit from subsidies. And red states have been begging for the federal government to stop getting involved in state affairs for a long long time.
That is going to result in incredibly high prices and results in reliance on foreign shitholes. Have fun with that.
>Texas
>siding with blue states
>Avocados and almonds
>staples
>Real Californian farmers
>Liberal.
Great meme my friend.

>1 post by this ID
fucking idiots

>That is going to result in incredibly high prices and results in reliance on foreign shitholes. Have fun with that.

Well, the reds aren't going to stop selling blue states food in the first place, so that's a moot point anyways.

The point is they don't have a food monopoly, and trying to hold that over the blue states is a shitty tactic.

Red States have more non-Whites (compared to productive pop).

Red States have the most military bases.

Red States have the most farming subsidies.

Red States are known for stockpiling weapons.

>Red States are known for stockpiling weapons.

Are you saying the red states are going to chimpout because they aren't getting those gib-me-dats anymore?

>We'll just stop sending food

That's not the best strategy. California alone produces 1 of every 3 calories consumed by Americans.

>If I have no argument, it is a moot point.
>Like it isn't possible for people to stop selling to each other.
>They don't have a food monopoly, red areas just produce a vast majority of our food, not all of it guys.
>It isn't a useful tactic even though high food prices has historically led to revolution.

Don't even have to do that. Just turn off the pipelines and they'll starve from transportation issues.

>>They don't have a food monopoly, red areas just produce a vast majority of our food, not all of it guys.
>>It isn't a useful tactic even though high food prices has historically led to revolution.

What are you going to do then? Communism the red states food production and force them to stop selling?

Unemployed all your farmers?

Comeback when reality hits you.

if people are starving because all our agriculture is shut down? Are you retarded?

I don't think you understand what embargoes are, nor do you understand that most farmers are conservative so they would be perfectly willing to do this in protest. Do you think they would just lie down and let blue states trample over them? And farmers don't end up "unemployed" if they aren't selling to blue states, they just produce for themselves and the red states, possibly even export it out of the Gulf of Mexico. Blue states are not the only people willing to buy food.

Yankee retard meet reality.

But aren't low taxes and cut government services what republicans have been calling for since Reagan?

You shouldn't have voted republican if republican policies is not what you wanted. If the blue states have less federally taxes and want to spend that money on themselves, then who are the red states to complain?

God, its like the blue states are conservatives and the red states are liberals in this thread.

that doesn't mean to stop farm subsidies.

>Do you think they would just lie down and let blue states trample over them?

You saying people have a right to other peoples money? Fuck off, socialist.


Not at all, New Yorks farm subsidies can all go to New Yorks farmers. That would actually probobly fix the new york city/country relationship at the moment.

I would prefer the federal government not involve itself at all actually. I think New York should decide what New York does, and Texas decide what Texas does. And if you are against farming subsidies ,that is fine, but be ready for expensive food prices.

>I would prefer the federal government not involve itself at all actually. I think New York should decide what New York does, and Texas decide what Texas does. And if you are against farming subsidies ,that is fine, but be ready for expensive food prices.

We can afford it.

So by that logic the federal government won't be forcing my state to subsidize poor beaners with 5 kids and other retarded shit? Sounds great to me.

>Now Democrats could demonstrate that their cherished 10th Amendment can be a sword that cuts both ways.

Oh no! The coastal states would be able to use their states rights! Tragic!

Okay, then we will both be on our ways, red states are happy because they can sell their goods easily and do not suffer constant meddling from the federal government, and blue states get cheaper food and can determine what they wish to do with their own cash. State's rights sure are great.

wow it's almost as if we all agree the federal government is out of control

>Californian agriculture without outstate water sources

...

I ain't helping your disgusting califag ass.

t. Texan

>California grows a ton of food.

Like Puerto Rico can talk. Pay debts.

You wouldn't be. Did you read the artical?

But hey, if you want Texas paying for all the other red States shit then go ahead.

Perhaps WAPO needs to look at the county map state by state to see the Hillary DID NOT win complete states.... she won major population centers only.

Just see getting a pool of responses first you silly Ivan using a leaf proxy.

It's mainly the following

>Strawman on principles
>attacking the WaPo or creating strawman attacks
>Trade regarding food grown in red states (Which is heavily subsidized by the federal government.) and thinking that if red states try to cut them off, blue states won't just trade with foreign nations to fill the gaps like they did during (SHOCK) the civil war in regards to southern goods like cotton.
>invalid forms of measurement like military jobs equal welfare (not really and the assumption of demographics.

I was expecting something better like the race to the bottom by having red states devolve into 3rd world working conditions would create a domestic race to the bottom for jobs and befits, or the Red states actually use the federal government to strong arm the blue states because the Republicans don't care about the 10th amendment when they're in power. Or the fact that it's populations that create goods and services and not vast tracks of land. Unless the utopia of every job being automated will somehow work out well for everyone but the people who own the machines.

Apply yourselves Sup Forums, if the democrats go full cynical asshole like the republicans have done these past 30 decades with the 2 santa claus theory where they make the country suffer for political gain, you're in deep shit.

>Blue states use the money they no longer owe to the federal government to improve themselves

Lol right, like the Chicago bureaucracy having more money would definitely result in more prosperity for the state and less corruption/corporatism.

Also, how would the blue states change taxes to incentivize businesses to stay in state? Dem voters always want to tax businesses more and more when given the chance.

Red state socialism was debunked years ago.

>i like to watch strangers fuck my wife

>this uppity california cunt always attempts to flex in this thread
The SA fault can't go off soon enough.

>red states make up the bulk of the American breadbasket
>farming is heavily subsidized by the Federal government
>result: red states receive a ton of federal aid
This is also the main reason California receives so much federal aid, its to prop up their agricultural industry. If you cut off agricultural funding California would shrivel up and die before any red state did.

>>Blue States that are still under State Democratic control should restructure their taxes to keep their wealthy and corporations in state and then use the money they no longer owe to the federate government to improve themselves and let the red welfare states flounder.

Lel at the prospect of this happening, business and people are leaving Illinois and going to Indiana, the Dems are too retarded to figure it out.

Farming subsidies make up about 1% of government expenses. If you're going to cut something, cut something that actually has a sizable budget in the first place like medicare, which takes up by far the largest chunk of our budget, followed by social security, followed by defense (which has seen continuous cuts under Obama, so it's time to cut something else).

>cut medicare.
>cut social security

Did you read the actual artical? Its about letting the republicans do that while making blue state equivalents so that the blue states can spend their own money on themselves and let the red states wallow in their conservative trickle-down no-government-services utopia.

Its about giving up on funding the red states and letting them float or sink on their own.

Mississippi gets 43% of its state revenue from the federal government.

The tax paying states can keep that 43%, thank you.