Burning the United States flag shouldn't be punishable EVER! Doing so is defended by our FIRST amendment of the...

Burning the United States flag shouldn't be punishable EVER! Doing so is defended by our FIRST amendment of the CONSTITUTION.

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Clintonites eviscerated forever.

Hate speech is not free speech.

I thought this was 40d chess, but he brought it up again at the first rally so guess not. Definitely should not be punishable.

Yes flag burning is constitutional


But the thing is, by burning the flag, you're saying fuck my right to burn the flag

So the law protects you, but you're a massive fucking idiot

You're literally fucking wrong, Google it.

I shouldn't even have to tell you guys this obvious shit!

Whether the constitution was meant to be, and whether or not it SHOULD be, the constitution is a living document. Child pornography is also a form of expression, and yet no court would dream of applying constitutional protection to it, nor should they. Likewise, the constitution was not applied to many other forms of speech and expression such as regular pornography or communist literature, which have become legal or at least decriminalized in more recent years, not because of reinterpretation of the constitution, but because the majority of people no longer believed them to be something worthy of being condemned.

And the vast, overwhelming majority of americans think that flag burning is bad. Over 90% disapprove of the act in any context, and over 3/4ths think that we should not have the right. We could literally pass an amendment on it, if any politician was willing to put in the effort on what, at the end of the day, is actually a very minor issue.

How is he wrong? You're literally using your constitutional right of expression, to shit on that which protects your right. It's completely moronic.

>You're literally fucking wrong, Google it.

Some shills mad

I think this is a shill thread. What are we googling exactly?

But if we don't give them the right to burn the flag we might lose our right to call the flag burners niggers

fpbp kek wins fatality

It obviusly is a form of expression

A form to tell the world how stupid and full of anger you're

But may I tell you what? Burning the Quran is also a form of expression.
If it's cool to burn a flag, why should burn a bible or a quran be illegal?

I don't understand this, specially coming from America.
How the fuck did burning the flag became legal in the first place? Why doesn't the constitution protect the American flag/symbols like it should?
Here, not only burning, but wearing clother with images of the flag or just directly referencing it in anything that isn't a state-issued uniform or an actual flag is illegal and highly frowned upon.
It shocks me how americans and brits are so lenient when it comes to the image of their flag.

You act like freedom of expression hasn't been much more greatly abridged before or previously

>Lighting something on fire in a public place is ok

treason isn't 'free expression'

>How the fuck did burning the flag became legal in the first place?

The first amendment says any speech is acceptable, later court cases extended "speech" to expression in order to cover peaceful demonstrations, and inadvertently covering flag burning.

>Why doesn't the constitution protect the American flag/symbols like it should?

Probably because it was written in the early 1800s and nobody thought that citizens would be dumb enough to burn their own flag in anything other than a declaration of revolution.

>18C
This really made me REEEEEEE

Yes it is, you aids infested piece of shit nigger kike.

Excuse me, late 1700s

what if Trump makes companies actually begin making American flags in America, and they make it with fabric that won't burn, fabric that would be considered "illegal" to burn, or fabric that would be toxic or poisonous?

I mean, according to liberals it isn't. If I stand on the street yelling I hate niggers, I'd be subject to legal action. On the other hand, byrning the flag is A-OK

Burning the flag is an act of what the flag as a symbol represents, which is odd that someone would do it.

I don't support punishing those that burn their own flag and I voted for Trump. Just look at them and laugh, the best disinfectant is often sunlight.

We know. Trump made that tweet so dems would burn more flags and look like retarded, American hating douche bags. Which they are.

I don't think it should be illegal but there should be a really hefty fine

They shouldn't be arrested but they SHOULD be deported. Burning the flag is symbolic of their hatred of the United States (and having been around lefties, these people genuinely believe the United States is the most evil entity to ever exist) so really wouldn't we just be giving them what they want? Let them go to Canadia or Cuba or wherever and have a grand time among the cucks 'n commies set.

he was being ironic you double nigger

That also applies to Rainbow Flags.

So you mean how you can get a fine when speeding? Or when you pass a stop sign without stopping? Because that isn't illegal right, just a fine?

Quran burning is a form of expression

Property destruction is not protected speech. The flag is public property.

Why is it only commies can't get that?

>buy a flag from a store with my own money
>public property

KEK

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In 2005 Hillary Clinton lobbied for a bill that would make burning the flag punishable by a year in prison and a $100,000 fine.

>yeah burning niggers on crosses is also a form of expression
really roasts my almonds sempai

>It's not bad because Democrats did it too
Yes, Drumpfkins are THIS stupid.

This. I'm confused here. They're petitioning for their right to burn the flag, but if they actually get that right, then by burning the flag, they're saying they don't want that right. It's self-defeating.

Kinda like an islamic feminist.

>""""public""""" property

Sounds like you're the commie m8.

burning the american flag = free speech
burning the lgtbbq flag = hate speech
can't go both ways

Calling someone a nigger shouldn't be punishable EVER! Doing so is defended by our FIRST amendment of the CONSTITUTION!

Hillshills BTFO'd.

so where does it end? the people burning flags want to destroy the republic. they actively censor speech and try to ban guns. fuck these people. it's not freedom of speech. it's an active insurrection in our country plotting to destroy it from the inside

spare me your principles you stupid conservacucks. you're exactly why we are in this situation. the left plays a different game and they play it dirty. you're only losing by not playing their game. it's time for fascism

What if in burning the flag you effectively "burn" your rights?

That would be a pretty good middle ground.

>my own money
Lmao

Since when is setting fire to anything in public remotely okay?

I mean desecrate the flag all you want but burning things in public should be against the law, if it isn't already, it's not just a form of expression it's dangerous to inhale the fumes and could set other things on fire or harm other people.

Why don't we start burning those fag flags, Sup Forums? I've been suggesting this forever now. We should have a meet up somewhere and burn a whole pile of them. We can have a BBQ and shoot guns too if you guys want. Entry fee is just to bring a rainbow flag of any size and we'll set it on fire on film as part of the even and put that up on youtube. I think it'd be fun, what do you guys say?

nigger

Clinton lost, you can't use "BUT HILLARY" as an argument anymore

its like eating shit, it's fucking disgusting but not illegal.

would you eat shit?

The same people who are against flag burning also the same people who proudly fly Confederate flags over the US flag.

>someone made a fucking melodramtic video advocating for burning the American flag
>im sure it got likes on facebook

Trump isn't in office either, what's your point?

Me setting a nigger's mother's Section-8 House on fire with him in it
>is a form of expression!!!!

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!

WHAT ARE (You) SOME KINDA FREEDOM HATING NAZI?!?!?!?!

#BurnAllNiggerHobbit-Holes!!

A.S.A.P.!!!

It's the respectful thing to do.. since it's
>their culture!

they do it to one an other!!!

Sorry, but we don't have lgbt flags laying around our house. What are you trying to say?

The people who burn it don't believe in private property tho. Don't you see?

is that supposed to look like a maggot

I very much want to see someone burn a rainbow flag and see how that gets treated.

Likely it'd be considered a hate crime

That you can't deflect to "hillary did X" now, trump must be judged on his own

The only reason Trump brought this up was because it's Hillary's thing.
He's been baiting the left into showing their hypocrisy for the past year and a half.
How you fags still can't see it is ridiculous.

I'll give more of a shit when they give us full giggle back. First amendment untouched. Fine, but keep the rest just as untouched, especially the 2nd.

>B-BUT TRUMP IS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED

scum that burn the flag are just man baby attention whores. no change comes from your actions...it just makes normies wonder when the last time you used deoderant was.

You give Trump too much credit

I agree that they shouldn't make a law against burning the flag. It kinda opens a door on freedom of expression I think should stay closed.

However, I definitely think that if someone wants to desecrate the flag, in the United States, that the police and other people should just look away, and let Patriotic people, like bikers or veterans, or veteran bikers, beat the living fuck out of these people.

Don't make flag desecration illegal, just don't punish people who smash flag desecrator's faces in.
We need less laws, more street justice.

Might as well be exiled.

If they don't like their country, they should just leave.

Simple as that.

You could buy one. I know it's funding people you don't like, but we could just buy shitty ones from china instead of ones made here which probably support fags in some way.

There are plenty on Ali-Baba, we could have a Sup Forums fundraiser and buy like 10 for $5 or whatever and then send them off to burn while we shoot guns and laugh in the background.

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Expression isn't speech.
Walking around nude isn't defended by the first amendment.
Nor is pornography.
Or obscene materials.

Scalia was the only republican judge on the affirmative side of the judgement. Go read the dissents.

You mean like trying to censor "Fake News"?

The same people who say burning flags should be protected as a form of free speech are the ones that say we should ban "hate" speech.

You know the America Bald Eagle is so federally protected that you can't even accidentally step on a bald eagle feather on the ground much less even move it?

This is all because the Bald Eagle is our National Bird so why should the Flag not get the same kind of protection as the Bald Eagle?

Also I remember times that people who were burning the flag respectfully (when an old flag gets tattered or starts to fade the proper thing to do is burn it ceremonially, you shouldn't let it fall apart), and someone would call the cops, get in their face, or take a picture and post it, claiming they were desecrating the flag.

But still, it makes the whiny bitch look bad, and then they should get stomped. But I don't think they should be charged with a crime.
Curb stomp em instead.

I was waiting for this fucking thread, and I was waiting for a response like yours.

Yes. Yes it fucking is. And while I do not agree with it by ANY stretch of the imagination, I will defend to the death, you right to speak ill of the United States, and if you so choose, utterly destroy the flag.

Becasue that it your right.

But I will not respect you. on a personal level. I will not interfere with your right to express your opinion as you see fit, but i will do my best to salvage the flag from destruction after you've set it in motion. Why? Because I respect, and realize that by the same token, the very values that that flag flies for, and so many people bled underneath, gives me (and you) the right to do so.

I wasn't mad at Kapernack for refusing to stand for the Anthem - in fact, his message had a lot of good intent behind it. Slightly misguided by looking at only at the surface symptom and not a the root cause, but a well-meaning cause none the less.

No, I have no respect for you, because it's apparent you have no understanding of the underlying values that this flag stands for.

See the thing is, even if you absolutely HATE to the very CORE, every concept of the United States as a nation, I do not believe anyone with a basic grasp of this nation's history, or global history as a generalized whole, would attempt to burn the US flag, out of a sense of tacit respect.

In short, I do not burn the flag, even if I have the right to, because I understand the values it flies for is by the same coin, what allows me to deface said flag.

And somewhere, deep down from one burger to another, I think you know that.

Try burning a Saudi flag when you're over there. See what that gets you.

Nah, you niggas just got played by a "retarded" billionaire through the same tactics that just got him elected President and you can't accept it. Many such cases. Sad!

Wrong.

This is so true. The flag burning commies are the same people who shout "keep your hate speech of this campus!"

if they want to burn the flag, just grab their lighter fluid, spray it in their face, and make them kiss the flag they lit up.

Burning a flag isn't treason.
Treason is aiding your enemies by letting them in your borders.

>implying Trump's tweets haven't been idiotic even before his presidential bid

Idk what you're saying, I utterly despise him

Because they either just simply don't understand what freedom of speech means and think it means saying whatever the fuck you want (of course anything remotely "racist" is out of the table, as its hate speech, unless you're a minority, because minorities can't be racist!) or they simply think free speech is just an argument for doing their dimb shit and use it as an excuse for doing it.

I mean i could see liberals going all the way to defend black thugs from a crime saying it was just their way to express malcontent against the current white supremacist government we have, and it wasn't a crime it's just free speech.
Hell they even do that already when they defend when niggers chimpout and riot.

so is burning a koran, maybe people should start doing that.

They should. It looks like Kek agrees with you, as sarcastic as you're being.

Okay so lets burn the gay flag

confirmed by quads

Kek wills it!

This is brilliant

Bravo.

are you allowed to burn the lgbt flag?

We kind of have to now. Leftfags btfo

What did he mean by this?

I'm going to do it. Where do I get one?

>Doing so is defended by our FIRST amendment
Not explicitly, free speech is the issue. However calling you a FAGGOT NIGGER KIKE is protected, but somehow considered illegal. If you ever actually read the Constitution you would know this. Don't forget looking at the Second Amendment while you are at it.

>>OP really IS a kike nigger faggot

Section 18c is unconstitutional. For lazy niggers like yourself who've never actually read the constitution:
>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Did you catch the part that says that you CAN'T pass a law restricting speech? Maybe that's why they created the 2nd Amendment.

>Child pornography is also a form of expression,
Whew lad! You really took the ball and ran with it there. I'll exercise the 1st and call you a DEGENERATE FAGGOT.

>Burning the Qur'an shouldn't be punishable EVER! Doing so is defended by our FIRST amendment of the CONSTITUTION.
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I think its high time we mass burn gay pride flags, Qur'ans, etc etc.
All in the name of free speech of course :^)

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Literally who?

But the flag is USA copyright. Modifying (burning) it for any other purpose is plagerism. So it's copyright infringement?

Totally illegal. the TPA was going to make it capital.

Why is burning flags not considered arson? Burning stuff on public property is a health hazard should be treated as such.