It's seriously mindblowing to me how many of you just bow down and take anything Trump shoves your way

It's seriously mindblowing to me how many of you just bow down and take anything Trump shoves your way.

So he won the election. Are you honestly EVER going to criticize a thing he does?

If Hillary Clinton allowed Chelsea to have the influence all of Trumps kids do, wouldn't you be threatening her life over Twitter or something?

Where are the conspiracy theories about Trumps business connections, his failures, his lack of tax releases, his insane appointees?

Wasn't he supposed to drain the swamp, not appoint a bunch of anti-science billionaires?

He's not building a wall, he's not going after wall street (he's bolstering it), he's slashing tax rates for the rich and going after the working class, he isn't pulling out of NAFTA, he isn't sticking it to China or ISIS, he's preemptively calling world leaders and pissing off the international community, he's ignoring intelligence briefings from Repubs and Dems, he's going completely against the Pentagon/CORPS of Engineers/CIA/UN/Scientific community by refusing to believe in climate change or supporting renewable tech to make us richer.

Seriously, he could literally fuck your waifu and take your moms purse and you would blame it on the liberals. So he won. Hold him fucking accountable. It's insane how stupid his supporters are.

>but hillary called us names in emails and the jewssssssssss

There are maybe 3 rich kids on this site who will benefit from Trump. Other than that, you're all getting shafted. And you're welcome to respond with an actual fact.

Why do you absolutely refuse to listen to any media reports that aren't selected from your big 3? Do you really think SJWs have any real power outside of Tumblr? That mexicans and muslims pose any threat to the most powerful nation in the world?

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I don't vote for criminals and I don't vote for anti-whites, period. Your criminal antiwhite candidate lost, deal with it.

That's not an answer to holding Trump accountable. And I voted Kasich in the primaries.

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If you wanted to convince people foreigners, minorities, women, socialists gay and liberals were NOT out to ruin the life of white men, then you have kind of shot yourself in the foot in the last severeal years senpai

Not too surprising considering the opposition has literally gone insane

Show me a single statistic that supports this.

Because the last time I checked white men in American still have all the power. That's why we are all in the House, Congress, Oval Office, military positions, and top of Corporations.

Last time I checked like 0.1% of white men had all the power and the bottom 99.9% is just as cucked as everyone else.

btw Im white and love it but I cant fucking stand science hating conspiracy theorists.

And there hasnt been a single non-meme point against this.

Blacks in South Africa still complain that whites own everything.

It doesn't mean their government is pro-white.

......What in the world does this have to do with holding Trump accountable

It doesn't?

Sorry you are too dumb to recognize it is in response to your other point.

Whitey pretends to want to commit suicide to purify the world, but they know they in charge. Just makes them feel better. We need some real nubian kings in charge of America, not an oreo who was diluted by the evil creations of Yakub.

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Did your GED earn you that false sense of superiority?

I didn't say shit about white vs black or whatever narrative you refuse to frame every single argument around. Defend his appointees. Defend his pro-business pro-wealthy anti-science stances that you normally hate.

how did you get all this inside info on what his true plans are?

GED was created to give false hope to young black males, making them think they can actually get a job with that shit when they deserve a college education. This is why niggas can never leave the hood, selling CIA planted crack and smack.

These are things that have already actually happened and have actually been reported.

Are a single one of you going to respond with a thought out response or just memes and quips?

DAS RIIIIIITE

You have already shown yourself to be ignorant, and possibly a minority for being unable to recognize that people don't have to agree with everything someone says in a two-party system that represents 150 million different people.

If you want to live in a place where there isn't a lot of wealth inequality, go to North Korea or Venezuela. The more a country prospers, the more income inequality occurs. Only poor countries have low income inequality.

Not worth arguing with the white man brotha when all they do is talk and not listen

the stock market has skyrocketed becAuse of trumps win. my 401k is doing wonderful

Ok retard. OP. You said some shit about children influencing trump. Chelsey was literally being dialed in on classified international calls so that she could learn. I'm sorry but, she was in the fucking basket.. ready to jump in to the hot seat.

tl;dr fag

>He's not building a wall, he's not going after wall street (he's bolstering it), he's slashing tax rates for the rich and going after the working class, he isn't pulling out of NAFTA, he isn't sticking it to China or ISIS...

none of these have had time to develop. Just wondering where you got that info...honoestly senpai it sounds like you are guessing based on what-ifs. Not a slam on your opinion, but it just sounds like opinion to me.

I'm white, my parents are rich, my two degrees were paid for, I make money in medical sales in Ohio. Again, I fucking voted for Kasich in the primaries.

So please, you absolute edgelord, respond with any argument. Not a single person in this thread has. Argue for Trumps proposals and appointees.


Didnt say shit about children influencing him. I said his children getting positions. You didnt argue this, just mentioned Chelsea did something similar. How about Trumps kids shilling products after calls?

Not an argument

Not an argument
And my 401k dipped after the election and then went up. Just like after Obamas first.

>And I voted Kasich in the primaries.
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Appreciate your response.

It has been reporter that he is backing down on the wall, and has already mentioned it may be shorter because of 'natural borders' like hills and rivers.

He's not going after Wall Street. He is appointing them to his cabinet. He is slashing taxes for the top earners.

He already said hes not pulling out of NAFTA.

ISIS he may very well still stick it too, but haggling with Pakistan is not a good start.

I guess I am just in wait-n-see mode. The media just keeps lying to me and I have no idea which news is telling the truth anymore.

Immigration is driving down wages and disproportionately affects the jobs of minorities, and Clinton has admitted that we don't have the means to fully vet Muslims coming from countries which have a lot of terrorist activities. Trump's appointees openly address both those concerns.

Also, nobody believes you have any money or vote Republican. You're just an ignorant minority. If you really had money, I have to say it is quite pathetic to be complaining about income inequality while not giving anything above 30k a year away to charities or government.

Well, this were his words and actions verbatim. Some reported from his own sources.

I wonder how long it is going to take every one to realize that trump is in this for team trump, and they aren't part it.

The bull shit with Taiwan call. Was it 4d chess mastery? No. He wants to build a hotel there. He doesn't give a fuck what the diplomatic consequences of his actions are. He will throw us all under a bus if it makes him a buck.

i am totally open minded to this info...just haven't seen it myself.

Still gonna wait and see what happens (like I have any choice)...both sides are in the middle of a massive disinfo campaign and I can't tell who is being honest.

We are always criticizing what the has done post winning election you fucking faggot. Lurk more and you'll see.

Did you know Foxconn is a taiwanese company?

Seriously where the fuck do you get these stats?
You're seriously so jaded you cant believe I'm a rich white kid? You realize how many rich white kids who went to college vote left?

My family benefits from tax cuts. I don't know if I will, I work on commission and don't break 70k a year at max. Im 25, I have a waysss to go.

Except one my degrees was in renewable tech with a focus on solar. And my state (Ohio) fucking subsidizes coal plant CEOs. Not the workers. My tax dollars literally pay for the CEOs of coal plants.

And AEP discontinued tax credits for those who generated power on their own land and put it back into the grid.

So no, fuck your condescension. Wake the fuck up and realize that its not just minorities pissed about this, theyve been disenfranchised long enough to take it in the ass.

Im white. Now Im getting fucked in the ass by science haters. Its fucked. If you cant see why a rational, working, upper middle class male doesnt like this shit, youre not paying attention.

He's not the president yet. He doesn't have the power to do anything he's promised when he's only the president-elect. Judging his presidency now is pointless because it relies entirely on speculation and hearsay, which means nothing since he's already flip-flopped so the possibility of his policy goals changing yet again is entirely valid. There's also the possibility that holding him accountable for anything is a moot point since the entire brunt of the democratic party is actively trying to deny him the presidency. We're in a limbo right now, which causes obvious frustration to many people. Once he's president he'll be held accountable for every single thing he does, whether his fans like it or not. Sup Forums is also going to swing left again once he takes office so if you need a hugbox to complain about him you'll be among friends in 6 months.

>anti-science billionaires

Now I do... Kind of curious where you are going with this.

I wonder if any Sup Forumstards will lose their healthcare when he repeals Obamacare. Maybe they will hold him accountable then.

Where am I getting these stats? Try the US Civil Rights commissioner, look it up. Also Clinton had admitted about being unable to fully vet people from terrorist countries. All this is on available publicly, sorry if you are politically uninformed.

And you want to talk about a condescending attitude? Do you know how unbelievably disingenuous it is to have someone making above 60k with rich parents talking about wealth inequality while still keeping all the money they have?

Maybe respecting their country will led them to invest 50 billion in our country

I didn't read your post but more billionaires voted democrat than republican this election.

The republican party is now the working class party.

We can pretty handily guess how badly he's going to run the country just going by the history of most of the people on his cabinet, on top of the terrible decisions he's making *right now*.

But I'm being ridiculous. Why SHOULDN'T Air Force One be his private jet? What's wrong with him skipping all but two of his intelligence briefings so far? Is the GOP wrong for being so disgusted with his ignorance of foreign affairs that their security officials publically denounced him?

*his private jet be Air Force One
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100% this.

Wait, you took all this seriously? You do realize pol is a progressive left/secular humanist board, right?

I just want a race war senpai

I hate niggers and non-white immigrants

this. white people still run this shit.

I'm not disagreeing with our inability to vet Muslim immigrants. I am disagreeing with your claim that immigrants drive down wages. They rarely work competitive jobs, and if they do, they earn less than native counterparts.

I make over 60k because I worked my fucking ass off for two degrees in college. I work 40 hours a week talking with patients, customers, and vendors.

My parents donate a portion of their income yearly to our cities education programs, dog shelters, and the science endowments. My dads an engineer.

Im 25 and I dont have to apologize to anyone for making the money I do.

I hate niggers

Rich people are the ones ruining my life, that must be why I'm poor
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Did you know if Foxconn was in China then they couldn't invest that much money in the USA because China limits the amount of money you can take out of the country per year to something like $50,000USD.

>don't break 70k a year at max
>upper middle class

hahaha

I worked at a golf course. The immigrants drove down wages because they dont demand as much, and of course they take away employment. Also in more under the table industrys like landscaping they seriously drive down wages and often pay no tax, meaning they might get the same in pocket as a normal worker but the normal workers pay must include tax.

Also, these jobs are for the riff raff of society not the amazinf people like you who go to college. Its important for riff raff to be employed

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My 2015 W2 was 180,000

I file single and my federal income tax burden will actually go up slightly under Trumps proposed federal income tax brackets.

But I still voted for him. For the good of my countrymen.

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What did you think would happen if you hired a business man to run the country in the same manner he's run his businesses? Do you think you, personally are going to benefit from it? Absolutely not!

Why in the fuck should Trump give a shit about the people who voted for him?

yeah people have been trained that upper middle class means not getting your hands dirty. Their guidance counselor didnt tell them welders make 100-250k a year.

Holy shit.

i thought the shills left already fuck off

Do you seriously not believe a single other person in this country could possibly disagree with an election?

Lucky for you this board is anonymous. You have no fucking chance IRL if you cant muster up an intelligent rebuttle/rational world view.

I worked at a golf course (catering mostly) for two years in college.

Not a single immigrant impacted my salary. But maybe I dont work with enough.

I dont have a single debt. I pocket every dollar. By the time I'm 30 I'll be well in 6 figures. By 40 I will be owning my own business and vacationing.

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Holy shit go fuck yourself. Seriously my friend always post these anti-college stats online. Not a single statistic supports your claim. Even underwater welders (which requires a diving degree and a top level welders certification) make about 200-300/hr. And guess how many jobs they get at that rate a year? Do you know how expensive it is to obtain that gear and those certifications? Because I welded throughout high school. And my welding and construction buddies dont break 55k

Google the stats.

His cabinet is so hilariously overflowing with swamp, that I think its obvious he was pulling everyone's leg. We obviously won't know what the future holds.

>I am disagreeing with your claim that immigrants drive down wages.

Then you don't understand economics. Changes in the supply of labor and the effect it has on wages are pretty basic bitch ECON101. They literally explicitly lay out the exact example of how Israel in 1988 made life real difficult for Palestinian border hoppers to work in Israel, and in doing so drove up the wages for native Jews in the agriculture and construction industries by as much as 50%.

I just don't see electronics manufacturing coming to the US.

For one, immense inertia. Everything from basic passives to complex SOCs are already made in China. Assembling a device on US soil isn't economical because all the parts are a boat ride away (unless you want to pay the big bucks to fly it...) This makes your supply chain a lot more complicated and a lot more expensive. And no chip manufacturer would bother moving production to the US since all of their customers are locked to China for all the other parts.

We also aren't willing to compromise enough to compete with the workers in China. We seriously aren't. The rust belt doesn't want 12 hour work days for 6 days a week for way below current minimum wage.

I also don't think we are going to compromise on environmental issues enough to do the work as cheaply as they do it. I've been in a Foxconn factory. The air outside smelled like cleaning chemicals every day of the week I was there. I don't think the NIMBYs of the US are going to stand for that kind of crap.

>his tax releases

Okay, you're new here, so i'll explain.... (and I could pick apart any piece of your post)... but let's just start woth his taxes.

First off, pretty much everyone on Sup Forums would fall under a libertarian economic stance... which is "fuck taxes"... they should be zero... like they are in places like Dubai... and the USA in the mid and late 1800s when it was at it's economic best. So if Trump pays zero, we commend him for it.

Now, you also have to take into consideration that calling for his tax returns is just a political move....

Trump's taxes could be squeeky clean, and hisnpolitical opponents would twist everything in it to look bad to the public, who have no clue what's good or bad in tax returns. Politicians do this all the time, and I had MORE respect for Trump not falling for this political trick.

Lol, one dollar bills in that pic

Just saw The Magnificent Seven. Chris Pratt and the rest dies except a nigger and a beaner. Fuck you America!!!

Holy fuck you're dumb

>Not a single immigrant impacted my salary. But maybe I dont work with enough.

Of course you don't you mongoloid. Immigration doesn't effect everyone equally. The CEO on Wall Street is just going to see his earnings explode because of increased population increasing demand for his products. The Bank Street economists wank themselves to the thought of how it increases muh GDP.

It's not the rich that get affected by immigrants, and it's not some hoity toity white kid from the burbs that feels the pinch. It's Cletus from Austin that suddenly doesn't have a job anymore because Jose and his cousins swam the Rio Grande and are willing to work construction for half the salary. It's Tyrone that's put out of a job because Juanita popped out five anchor babies who grew up to compete for the night shift job stocking shelves.

Neck yourself you stupid fuck. You obviously don't understand the MOST BASIC ECONOMIC CONCEPT OF ALL - SUPPLY AND DEMAND. Immigrants are increasing the supply of labor in specific industries, destroying the wage earning capacity of specific communities.

The more I look at this dollar sign bag that clearly isn't stuffed full yet has one dollar bills overflowing out of the top of it, the sillier it looks

No I don't think you understand.

Migrants overwhelmingly take the lowest tier jobs in the country. This makes manufacturing more affordable, construction and factory industries to survive, and provides external tax money that can be used for social programs.

If you are unwilling to get even a two year technical degree to further your life, you deserve to be phased out. End of story.

Unless you are willing to wash dishes, pick grapes, build decks for shit cash and the threat of deportation, you are not at risk. If you know how to use a computer, fix a car, speak proper english for customer service, youre fine.

But rural America sits in the mud and whines instead of adapting to a shifting international economy.

Then why wouldnt you vote for that retard Gary Johnson who thought that private companies would regulate themselves to reduce CO2 emissions?

I guess I forgot how many Sup Forumslacks are entrepreneurs and heirs. Because libertarians (check out Dark Money some time) like so many jews and billionaires you all hate, use their lack of regulations to siphon as much prophet without any regard to social cost. It's like having a computer program decide your countries wages.

And theyre a huge reason why we have shit inheritance laws so every lil boy can inherit daddys millions and gain instant political power.

You wouldnt let a kid inherit a medical license, it could harm hundreds of lives. Why would you let a kid inherit millions, so he can run for office and ruin hundreds of thousands?

We can compete with cheap labor by using a tariff. We could even use our tariff to encourage other countries to pay higher wages and not destroy the environment. For example, we could put a 35% tariff on china, but reduce that tariff to nothing if they follow all the regulation we put on ourselves.

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>he isn't sticking it to China
Oh fuck off.

Oh boy wouldn't zero taxes be just swell. Our country will pay the police officers and firemen with unicorn farts and rainbows. And I'll stop to pay a toll ever mile on my commute to work because there are no public roads, so the only ones that are in good repair are those that you pay a company to use.

A tariff that large would fuck up the poor and middle class beyond belief. Do you want every chinese import to cost 100% more or just stop being produced? Not to mention lower supply in almost every good multiplying with increase production cost. It would devastate both our economies and lead to higher unemployment.

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If that came to pass, I think iphones would cost 35% more. Perhaps a few domestic only brands could crop up, but without the volume of the international market place, they aren't going to be able to justify as much R&D costs as their international counterparts.

You guys are fucking stupid for bumping stupid shit like this. Leave your curiousity to yourselves and ignore it. Oh wait you guys have low IQs I forgot.

>But rural America sits in the mud and whines instead of adapting to a shifting international economy.

The utter ignorance in this post is astounding. I have never in my life EVER read something so fucking stupid.

Listen here, you god damn stupid chuckle fuck.

First of all, have you never considered the fact that a great deal of this "muh modern economy" that you wank about is founded on the disregard for negative externalities? We live on one fucking globe retard. Buying your lumber for cheap doesn't mean fucking shit when we're doing it for cheap because we pour pollution into the rivers in China. Shit runs down hill, and eventually that is going to come back to bite us in the ass. But I guess you'll be real glad you saved a few hundred bucks on that laptop when the world over is choking in its own smog.

Secondly, muh economy. My fucking god, have you never considered that just maybe people like to live in their own communities with their own values and their own people? Who the fuck are you to come stomping around wailing because people suddenly decided they want their old lives back instead of listening to the wetbacks down the street blasting their salsa music all night long?

Third, I don't understand how someone can be so socially liberal it'd breathtaking but on the other hand such a trickle down retard. These industries were never non-affordable. There just used to be better balance between worker earners and CEO earnings. American manufacturing did not just suddenly become unaffordable. Big money just decided they could increase their earnings ten times over if they employed sweatshop labor in other countries or hired illegals and passed a fraction of those savings down to the middle class. If the United States decided to ban immigrants and punish hiring illegals by death the construction industry would not collapse. Johnny Rich would just suddenly have to be satisfied with an eight figure salary again instead of a nine figure salary.

If China follows all the same regulations we put on ourself then there shouldn't be any tariff. It seem immoral for our countries to buy product from a country that pollutes and treats employees like slaves.

says the man bumping the topic....
You must be the kind of asshole who replies all asking everyone to stop replying all.

Take my advice and stop falling for this shit. I'm replying because I'm warning people. God forbid trump wants to keep the rare smart immigrants that actually do well and actually accept our culture.

Think about how much money the government would collect on a 35% tax on all China imports. It would cut into the businesses bottom line a bit, but freeing the slaves also cut into the farmers bottom line. It's not right to benefit from slave labor.

I'm really not sure what you are saying here.

Do you think I'm an immigrant?

Also if the corporate tax rate is cut to 15% then the 35% tariff won't be felt as much

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