Watching documentary on elliot rodgers

>watching documentary on elliot rodgers
>psychologist says online forums in which everyone shares the same view and makes extremist statements makes matters worse
>realize my political worldview and attitude towards other races might have been hurt by Sup Forums

How do you cope with these psychological side effects?

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these people are so ugly

look at that whore's face

and i guarantee their chad thinks he's living the high life. what a joke.

>The Virgin Killer
Here Lies Elliot He Never Scored

elliot roger was actually i feel much more attractive than myself

but he tapped out like a bitch

life is about struggle

By not gormlessly believing everything Sup Forums says

anyone who does so is fucking retarded

/pol is satire senpai

the great philosopher chipotle has words on this

interesting digits

>the internet made elliot rodger
>not his girlfriend cheating on him without ever taking his virginity

Elliot is the exact by-product of women's liberation.

must be true then

god that ass

The internet was always like that though.

They are a bunch of random sluts, they post pics like that because they are sluts and they know that guys will still worship them regardless.

>((psychologist))

>Sup Forums
>everyone sharing the same views
Weak bait

And the supreme gentleman wasn't created by the internet, he was created by his whore gf cheating on him.

>one pity fuck could have saved six people
Sluts dropped the ball on this one.

>Sup Forums
>not an alt-right echo chamber

Elliot Rogers posted on forums were people regularly mocked and taunted him for his stupid world view.

If this psychologist cannot even get the basic facts of the case right, what makes you think they have a single fucking clue that they know what they are talking about?

I'm not defending Sup Forums btw.

I'm serious - If the psychologist is too lazy and/or stupid to look at the very fundamental facts of the case he is addressing, and his entire hypothesis is based on a completely false understanding of the situation, how can you take their findings seriously?

Wet Streets Cause Rain!

t. the newspaper your parents grew up on

>alt-right
Ayyy fuckin leaf
Also,
>commies
>right-wing

He's just a sperg that put pussy on top of the pedestal. I don't know if you have experienced this, women gets attracted to you the more you don't care.
Yes, women are crazy.

was he not a r9k user?

But that's not how sluts operate. You have to be the loudest, douchiest bro in the bunch to get their attention.

But Elliot needed help long before he got past puberty. He was a basketcase from his parents' divorce. But nobody really gave a shit about him so he was allowed to fester.

You're fucking stupid. We get raided half the time and lefties are here all the time. Paul is just what you get when you allow unrestricted speech. Places like sluthate and incel forums are safespaces for failures. The misc, pol etc are the opposite,since you don't get banned for much. He was ran out and laughed out of the misc. Nobody is preventing you from turning this place into a marxist cesspool, you just factually can't do it, and will probably get redpilled in the process.

I do miss having more intelligent posters pre zimzam and now ele tions, but what can you do.

misc actually.

/fit/ wannabe normalfags trolled him into oblivion

>But that's not how sluts operate.
Well obviously not, but maybe it should be.

storify.com/NewSecular/elliot-rodger-bodybuilding-com-forum

i visit here every so often for a laugh

>5'9, 61KG

guy was a fucking string bean fucking lol

Sorta kinda, Sup Forums isn't quite the worst because people will challenge your opinion just because YOU have it, whether or not they believe it. But there are certain opinions that're held by the overarching "population" as generally true, and in that regard it can be dangerous to discuss it as you get into this kinda echo chamber situation. It's good to branch out to other sites, even places where your opinion isn't necessarily the most widely held one.

Misc had some hilarious threads from time to time.

If you can't beat them, join them.

T. Degenerate Kraut
Shouldn't you be watching Achmed fingerbang your dyke wife or taking a shit on somebody's chest?
Fuck off with your Jew talk antifa cunt

>he posts like an 8 year old that just discovered the internet

>>psychologist says online forums in which everyone shares the same view and makes extremist statements makes matters worse

I would argue this is similar to the filter bubble created by Facebook.

All news articles you see are geared toward your beliefs. All of your friend's posts are aimed at your beliefs. It's a thought bubble of similar views.

Yeah but they merely adopted the autism.

REEEEEEEEEEEE
I don't care about what you think you fucking communist nazi jew


Nah Sup Forums doesn't influence me

Left pol means we'll never really be an echo chamber even if all the right wingers agreed and we don't

>But that's not how sluts operate.
Theyre called prostitutes. It is your own responsibility to seek their services.

This kid was just a loser.

We need to make prostitution legal again.

>This kid was just a loser.

He was mentally deranged and didn't have anyone in his life willing to face it and have him committed.

With some crazy pills and some cognitive therapy he might have been able to hold down a job and be ok.

>not being able to speak your mind in public
>your politicians literally cheer for your demise
>womenz getting raped in droves
>(((media))) covers for it all

How do you cope with the psychological effects?

youtube.com/watch?v=ltJqVvtEqoM

Who needs to cope?

I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see a woman naked until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but MGTOW.

Hey Elliot, sex is overrated. I often get bored and give up part way through.

Rebellion is just normal people conforming to anti-social groups.

Look at the far right and the far left. Terrible extremism.. They are diseases of a polity. When social values are replaced by market or political values, being "Anti social" is just an acceptable life choice. In many ways, the idealized "Free society" isn't free at all, because it always implies a state to protect property. If the state protects citizens and doesn't enforce morality (not that it should), then it protects people against a morally justified aggression.

Elliot Rodger is a prime example of someone in society who is forced to conform; had we saw him for what he is, we would have ostracized him long ago.

This.

>likes big ass
nigger detected

- Hillary Clinton literally said white people need to listen to black people about racism, an hour after some nigger went on a killing spree because of baboon lives matter

- Angel Merkel is literally trying to turn the European continent muslim under orders from the jewish shadow government (jews hate whites)

- The jewish mafia media machine is trying to promote feeding hormones to little kids to change their gender

So if you ask me Sup Forums is a MODERATE reaction to what's going on right now.

>psychologist says online forums in which everyone shares the same view and makes extremist statements makes matters worse
This is true in any HUG BOX type situation and is not isolated to the internet. It happens in many communities (online and off) that ISOLATE themselves from external viewpoints and choose instead to reinforce their own ideals, usually leading to (at least some) members being unable to what's right and wrong from society.

It usually involves DESENSITIZATION to overcome moral objections and making things become "normal".

For example, take that NYC cannibal cop (Gilberto Valle) who got busted talking about wanting to kidnap/kill/eat some nurse.

Same happens with fetishism with people who seem to constantly look for the most "extreme" things, and are unable to realize they're in too deep by the time they get v& for cp.

ISIS uses the same tactics to desensitize recruits by having large groups of people shoot prisoners and continue to shoot their dead bodies or have people take turns executing prisoners.

Lmao he was actually afraid of being racist.

you can say that about any media. Literally any medium.
It's the same logic as blaming cartoons for children trying to fly off a roof.. they were never gonna make it in life if they thought they could fly.

>ISIS

Here's an interesting thought - The prevailing wisdom of the MSM at the moment is that young Muslim men are radicalized online by contact with other young Muslim men who expose them to a more violent interpretation of the faith.

They, as we saw in the OP, point to people like Elliot Rogers as an example of it being used against a non Muslim.

Yet we know that is false. He did not exist in a hugbox. He existed in a forum where his views were mocked and challenged.

Perhaps it's not that Innocent Muslim Boy Is Made A Terrorist By Access To Communications Technology, perhaps it is that Islam Made Boy A Terrorist Who Sought Out Others With Communications Technology.

It is like the argument that Ted Bundy became a serial rapist and murderer because he watched Violent Pornography.

Could it not be just as possible that he was a violent rapist and that is why he watched Violent Pornography?

Perhaps "Young Muslim Boy Watches Beheading Video, Beheads Priest Hiself - Many Such Cases! Sad!" isn't a case of an ordinary, normal young man being corrupted by videos of beheadings, but rather a young boy corrupted by Islam and SEEKING OUT videos of beheadings.

Who knows.

As for coping, well different people cope differently.

In my personal opinion, I think it's better to expose yourself to different view points from different people, but you need to be able to control your emotions well enough that you don't become ANGERED, DISGUSTED, OUTRAGED, or other type of uncontrollable emotional outburst. The moment that happens, YOU LOSE. It's good to have an opinion on something one way or another, but don't be so narrow minded as to dismiss every different opinion without considering it at the very least. And always make sure you're open to changing your mind. Sticking with something you stop believing just because "you have to be right" usually leads to more conflict. And remember you can always just agree to disagree, or just not discuss whatever with somebody whom you'd rather not discuss it with.

Many people are predisposed to isolate themselves in their own heads. Usually an online hugbox type community can SAVE that person from doing harm in the real world by giving them an outlet, yet when they face rejection EVERYWHERE, online and in real life, they remain isolated, to their mindset anyway.

Isolation leads to desperation. And desperate people are unpredictable.

>kike bait image
>1 post by this ID
really makes me think

ALso as for the ISIS ref, i mostly just meant them using desensitization techniques with recruits IN PERSON (Just google the vids of them getting people to take turns shooting prisoners in the head).

>Doubting Sup Forums
Listen to your autism Hans, you know this graph to be true

Sup Forums can learn from the Jews.

(and does, if people actually peruse this board and see how it operates)

Pic related. You can't defeat an argument if you don't understand it.

Although;

>Sticking with something you stop believing just because "you have to be right" usually leads to more conflict.

Part of the art of the practice and art of Pilpul and trolling on Sup Forums is precisely finding a position you know to be wrong, and attempting to defend it from all angles.

If you do it well, you farm a ton of (You)'s. If you do it poorly, you merely drop a 1-Post-By-This-ID pasta and run.

I think that's why Sup Forums finds it easy to deal with plebbit and tumblr. Those venues truly are safe spaces that devalue confrontation and trolling.

Sup Forums thrives on oppositional thinking and taking positions you know to be wrong or absurd and defending them to aggravate other users.

Good point.

Perhaps being surrounded by a Mosque that lets you vent;

>Fuck America, Fuck the Kaffir, Fuck This, Fuck That

...and get a pat on the back and some nods would be preferable to the Imam saying;

>No. You're a lunatic and an idiot and I'm not going to address your concerns at all.

Which would then see the individual go find his satisfaction for his disenfranchisement elsewhere.

No, it's actually a big meme at the moment (hence the troll post from the OP) - Boards like Sup Forums "radicalize" young white men in the same manner as ISIS radicalizes young Muzzies on telegram, therefore boards like Sup Forums must be closed for public safety.

Also, in regards to desensitization;

Young ISIS recruits here would gather IRL to watch beheading videos and other such propaganda.

The assumption is that it was a progressive desensitization tool.

Begin with sermons. Get to angry sermons. Get to atrocity footage of Muslims being injured or killed. Get the Kaffir slaughter.

However, what skews that somewhat, is that the people attending these IRL meet ups were ALREADY extremely violent people.

Far from needing desensitization, it seemed they actually aggressively sought out this material and used it to stimulate themselves until they could access the real thing.

This could explain a lot about ISIS, seeing that it is a volunteer force of highly committed individuals, rather than a state army that must conscript and train citizens.

"Never insult the style of Elliot Rodger. I'm the most stylish person in the world. Just look at my profile pic. That's just one of my fabulous outfits. The sweater I'm wearing in the picture is $500 from Neiman Marcus."

Oh man I like this Elliot kid, this fuckin guy is crazy.

Don't have the mentality of a child and use a little thing called critical thinking. You'll be right, Hans.

It's very good advice. Most people have a problem with admitting they "don't know" though. This isn't an issue just on pol or online either, but while everybody is entitled to their opinion, nobody wants to be told YOU'RE WRONG. And even fewer are willing to admit that they don't know enough about a topic or discussion and willing to stop and do more research. It usually ends with someone just giving in and agreeing with the other person who's yelling louder.

The problem is global though. Most people do not want to bother to put in the effort to learn and educate themselves on things that matter to them in their lives. And i don't just mean on whatever abstract push button "hot" topic is in the media, but things that ACTUALLY MATTER and affect them directly, in most cases the law and how it works.

This is where hug boxing vs intimidation can differ. When you're surrounded by people in person, there's more a factor of intimidation. Everybody else thinks this way, so i must follow. There's also many people who could sit through a "radical muslim" preaching and not bother to actually do anything criminal their entire lives, but then there are some who take it to heart and act on it. Usually in these cases, the rest of the group fails to notice these and then just cry NOT ALL MUSLIMS after someone from their mosque blows up.

If anything it's apathy, and it's prevalent globally and usually encouraged.

And yea, i know they've been talking about online radicalization as well, and I'm sure it's possibly and has happened, but usually a hug box situation isn't the cause unless the person can't distinguish between reality or were going to act anyway.

If anything, online radicalization allows for easier control of radicals as any increase in social contacts (online or in person) is going to cause a higher rate of being caught.

Love how everyone in the documentary says everything was his fault for becoming mental.

Not his divorced parents who didn't give a shit about him or everyone who he went to school with who probably where huge assholes against him.

>How do you cope with these psychological side effects?
Stereotyping is how our brains work for everything, from "is this dog dangerous?" to "will this car break down?", and is one of the most accurate sociological phenomena being studied today.

What Sup Forums does is counteract the naively positive message from mainstream media. It does that by being too negative. This forms a composite opinion that's a little bit closer to the truth, although not as accurate as what you'd get if you were living in areas directly affected by refugees or race riots. "Counteracting that side effect" would erase any value this board has.

Sup Forums is an echo chamber. Only mass spammed noise gets accepted and circulated. Everything that breaks from the hivemind is shills or trolls and is quickly stomped out or discouraged.

It's not the same thing as having a group of people that all share similar views but it doesn't something similar but more extreme.

Don't believe in the victim mentality. It only leads to defeatism. If you start blaming anyone but yourself, you're not going to go anywhere in life. Can bad things affect you? YES. Do lots of things happen that shouldn't have? YES. However, people can overcome anything.

Unfortunately, that idea is counter to mainstream views which say you shouldn't rely on yourself or overcome obstacles but instead should accept your position. "Be a good mind slave, you're just a poor victim of whatever boogeyman they say. Don't bother trying to overcome it because you never will."

This leads to depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, uncontrollable emotional outbursts, and the inability for reason.

You can almost always overcome obstacles with minimal effort, BUT IT ALWAYS REQUIRES SOME EFFORT. WHen you give up, you've already lost.

Sup Forums and the rest of Sup Forums are open to literally the whole internet, with no registration and a pathetically ineffectual mod team.

It might echo, but it's in no way a chamber.

If he couldn't get laid in Santa Barbara then he has issues. Santa Barbara has a lot of whores.

But its true. Each race has their inherent characteristics, and that's fine. As long as they stick to their own and don't racemix I'm good with any race.

But the "shilling" is real, since SRS faggots, and then random anons join in to bait. Then everyone is paranoid as fuck. People legit raid this place all the time. Itns fucking useless too. Even jidf wasted their time, the only reason the board is more pro kike now is trump.

If anything, it seems to be TOO busy for most. Many popular threads are too busy to keep up with, too busy to have a conversation in, and by the time you finally try to make a post, the thread gets archived.

A lot of it i think stems from a lack of outlets for people to voice their opinions online. Sure there's reddit, but aside from the big outlets like twitter and facebook, most forum sites have been shut down for a while now, most news sites have completely removed the ability to comment, or require registration sometimes needing a phone number for verification. People can't even post on rants and raves for their local craigslist board without a phone number anymore. The few media sites that still allow commenting now usually get so many comments that it's impossible to keep up with there too.

It's almost as if there were some conspiracy to force all online communication through as few avenues as possible, hmm...

Elliot Rodger did nothing wrong

The older I get the more and more I realize there is something about young men that psychologically blocks them from just saying, "I should just hire hookers until I'm ready to have kids". Most men just cut right to, "I want a relationship!"

I guess the young male mind is wired to connect sex with love. Testosterone and oxytocin.

But seriously, any man with experience will tell you that the woman you have kids with will eventually cut you off from sex. Relationships are not about women loving a man. It's about a man providing resources to a woman to raise their kids together.

Sex with a woman is about extracting the man's resources and wealth. Always has, and always will be.

You want love from a woman? Hire an older woman who you're not sexually attracted to for a massage or talk therapy or just make close friends with an older woman. But seriously sex + love is only ever a temporary thing during the honeymoon phase of a relationship. A relationship overall to a man is nothing but an obligation.

Why young men don't realize this and still want relationships can only be chalked up to evolutionary psychology. I'm sure glad I'm beyond that stage. Holy fuck.

>the are sluts
>They post pictures like this because they know guys will look at them

Just because they do the latter doesn't make them the former you fucking leaf

Yes it does.

this
glory be
the funks on me

It makes them potential whores. All whores want your resources in exchange for something sexual. In the case of an attention whore she is getting the man to exchange a short piece of his time for a glimpse of her naked body.

And any potential whore is a potential slut. And all men should hate sluts.

Sluts will falsely accuse a man of rape, rip a part a family, trick a man into raising a kid that's not his/commit paternity fraud, etc. etc.

>I guess the young male mind is wired to connect sex with love. Testosterone and oxytocin.

This reminds me of how they say "querer" in spanish instead of "amar" o atleast I always said the former.

Woemn who have an ounce of empathy and have been burned have made for great sex partners in my younng 20's.

Yet the whole premise of your discourse is one sided and beta as fuck. In life EVERYTHING worthwhile that isn't just some consumable good will require you to give your life, this include what you do at work TO IMPACT OTHER's LIVES.

Sorry user but you remind me of most canucks, you can't face the fact that you are forced to give in every aspect of your life, give wisely and good women will respect that.

Fucking r9k invaded Sup Forums, brilliant

What are you talking about? My whole point is that men should avoid equating sex with love. It protects their resources, time, and wealth from women.

>Woemn who have an ounce of empathy and have been burned have made for great sex partners in my younng 20's.

Best sex I've had is with sex workers. Most up front, honest, KIND, reliable, and best looking sex partners I've EVER HAD.

>Yet the whole premise of your discourse is one sided and beta as fuck.

Getting reliable sex is not beta. Having enough money to have a woman is not beta.

>In life EVERYTHING worthwhile that isn't just some consumable good will require you to give your life,

So if I want a gallon of milk and some pop tarts I have to give my life? If I want some reliable, easy sex on demand I need to sacrifice my life for just the possibility she'll throw some poon my way? Uh, no thanks.

>this include what you do at work TO IMPACT OTHER's LIVES.

You're going off on some tangent.

>Sorry user but you remind me of most canucks, you can't face the fact that you are forced to give in every aspect of your life,

I'm not forced to give anything in any aspect of my life. I do what I want.

>give wisely and good women will respect that.

And who gives a shit what a woman will respect? Women respect power, resources, muscle, and wealth. You don't get those things by making what a woman respects your priority. You get those things by making what you want as a man a priority.

No offense to you, but I doubt I'll convince you of my argument. I'm mainly typing this out for the benefit of other guys who are reading.

I don't even know what r9k is.

It's only a problem if it's Communism or Libertarian/AnCap/other capitalist focused ideologies, if you have an echo chamber which keeps converting people to beneficial political ideologies (Fascism, NatSoc), good religions (Ethno religions (ex: Åsatru or Odinism for a Norwegian), Buddhism, Christianity, etc.), etc. then it's only a problem for (((them))).

I can't read all this shit, there's definitely butthurt there and all I smelled was a butthurt beta whose argument runs along the lines of "women shouldn't take shit from me, women don't deserve shit from me." this kind of shit is what a lot of basement dwellers use to justify their trotten existance.

You sound like you are incapable of commanding the resepct of women o you perseverate on it, completely missing the point. ENjoy your cuckolded existance and i'll see you in the other threads hating on trump for whatever reaosn is brought up there.

You are a faggot and you gave this thread cancer, gg.

You're can literally make women beg for sex and treat them like shit. You can make the less moral ones risk their familly and future for a 15 minute dicking. You just don't understand women. You think you're above eliott but you're just older, and managed to survive without going on a shooting spree. Stop it.

>thinking Sup Forums is commie
>libertarian 2008
>NatSoc 2008+
>Alt-right & NatSoc 2016
Sup Forums has never been communist, not before 2008, not now that we're being raided by a couple of teenagers.

>online forums in which everyone shares the same view and makes extremist statements makes matters worse
Dis nigga wasn't even a channer was he?Bodybuilding.com and puahate aren't exactly r9k or wizardchan.

you know what must be done.
beat the high score.
then the women will appreciate you.

>I can't read all this shit, there's definitely butthurt there and all I smelled was a butthurt beta whose argument runs along the lines of "women shouldn't take shit from me, women don't deserve shit from me." this kind of shit is what a lot of basement dwellers use to justify their trotten existance.

The hell are you talking about? I love my life. Got money, got women, got a decent career. Ain't no butthurt here.

>You sound like you are incapable of commanding the resepct of women o you perseverate on it, completely missing the point. ENjoy your cuckolded existance and i'll see you in the other threads hating on trump for whatever reaosn is brought up there.

I voted for Trump. And I'm indifferent to "commanding the respect of women". It's not a focus. As long as the interaction is civil, and I get laid, I'm good.

Browsing leftypol every so often and challenging my views
Seriously you have nothing to lose
Either you confirm your views and probably even gain arguments or you get educated and change your views
Theres no downsides to listening to the other side and having active thoughts

Your close ones must stay vigilant and notice when you're about to snap.

youtube.com/watch?v=KZr7XkFZJcw

Show them this video, it will explain them what are the early signs of going full nerdrage on your nearest school.

Not getting a woman yourself 100% makes you less of a man. You exhibit unmanly qualities
It's part of manhood to "hunt" the girl you want. Shows social skills and determination too.
You didn't get a hooker because of your manhood, you got her because you are just a customer.
Think it as an analogy: beating a game by your own worth or read a walkthrough / watch a let's play
Your thinking is that you experience the game in both situations but the experience is qualitatively different

That's the major difference that I find between getting it on with a girl vs a whore
You're a product of a consumerist society that enshrines instant gratification

>You're can literally make women beg for sex and treat them like shit.

What? What are you talking about? "Literally make women beg for sex". Huh? No woman begs for sex. She doesn't have to.

>You can make the less moral ones risk their familly and future for a 15 minute dicking.

Listen, dude. It doesn't have to be full on prostitution. A man can have a sugar daddy relationship. Many women do that now a days. No big deal, and her reputation is just fine.

>You just don't understand women.

Actually, yeah I do. I've just accepted their nature. I'm rather Zen about it these days.

>You think you're above eliott

Well, yeah....

>but you're just older,

True.

>and managed to survive without going on a shooting spree.

Lol, whut? I would never have any incentive to go on a shooting spree. My life is pretty fucking good, thank you very much.

Why do people still use prostitutes when things like Tinder exist?

Ever since I started browsing Sup Forums I've had more motivation though and felt more positive about the world. Deus Vult.

Reading Sup Forums is like a bulwark against the constant MSM negativity about western males.

There is no censorship on Sup Forums so you always get alternative viewpoints. The only thing Sup Forums makes you is more conspiratorial and skeptic of whatever the media peddles.

I see your point of view and it makes sense

>How do you cope with these psychological side effects?

It's a fair question. In truth I ony come to /pol because some of the spergs here are genuinely funny. I just ignore most of the actual political discussion here but sometimes I still come across rather... distasteful statements and images from time to time.
Luckily for me it's been quite some time since I was a retarded teenager and my mental balance has been tested and hardened, so now I can just shrug off this kind of influence.

Kids like Rodger, however, may be cause for concern here, and I'd probably welcome laws and measures to keep minors away from sites like Sup Forums

You don't have to fucking quote every sentence you sperg. Yes, women beg for sex and allow themselves to be used for free, just not by you. They love dick, just not yours. They fuck literal hobos if they're hot
Since you're a sperg I'll make it clearer: you display many of the same qualities as eliott, namely you're an unlikeable sperg, and you compensate with money.

Which is perfectly fine, it could even be considered smart to cut the middle man if you're not suave, but you don't have to fabricate all these "philosophies" justbaccept yourself as the guy women sleep with for cask (they sleep with chad for free on the side, but who cares).

>you can't face the fact that you are forced to give in every aspect of your life
In a healthy society you would be right, but in today's world this is the literal definition of a beta cuck bitch-boy faggot.

Keep bending over for the people around you and don't be surprised when they start fucking you in the ass.

>Not getting a woman yourself 100% makes you less of a man.

Define "getting a woman yourself". What qualifies as "myself"? My height? My muscle? My career? At the end of the day it all still falls under the banner of power and resources.

>You exhibit unmanly qualities

Having a career is not unmanly.

>It's part of manhood to "hunt" the girl you want. Shows social skills and determination too.

"Hunt". Lol, okay dude. You go "hunt". Tell me how that works for you. If you really want to "hunt" you can do that online and make a phone call to the girl and demonstrate your social skills when arranging to meet up. Not that hard.

>You didn't get a hooker because of your manhood, you got her because you are just a customer.

When it comes to sex all women are hookers, and all men are customers. The sex you don't pay for is the most expensive of all. Ask any man who has ended up in a family court or been falsely accused of rape.

>Think it as an analogy: beating a game by your own worth

Even Mario picks up gold coins on his way to Princess Toadstool. You think that bitch is gonna fuck a plummer for free?

>Your thinking is that you experience the game in both situations but the experience is qualitatively different

Dude, if you want a relationship with a woman, fine. Go do it. But unless she's given birth to your kid it's relatively pointless. She's just going to suck up your time, resources, and money. At least if she's given birth to your kid the resources are going towards an investment--your offspring.

>That's the major difference that I find between getting it on with a girl vs a whore

Once you get burned by a woman, then you'll understand what you're talking about. The Red Pill is often force fed to men against their will. One day, you'll understand.

>You're a product of a consumerist society that enshrines instant gratification

I'm a product of practicality, and these days I'm rather Zen about it.

why was the file deleted are we a faggot ass blue board now?