Thoughts on Motorcycle Clubs?
Both 1%er and others are fine. I find it interesting because of the American roots. Or things like laws In Australia or Canada regarding membership. Or across Europe for that matter with 1%er culture expanding into Migrant Culture.
What say you Sup Forums users?
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How do you even legislate against motorcycle clubs?
>Motorcycles cannot travel in groups of more than two ever hundred meters
just another form of organised crime, preying on the weak and pushing drugs in already broken communities
>1%er culture
scum , meth heads , criminals
Australia has hit them pretty hard. In the States we just allocate shitloads of money for the v& and ATF to infiltrate them. You would think they would stop falling for the same old shit after all these years.
Hypocrites who will do a ride meet for children with cancer. Then the next day they will also sell drugs to the same kids. They choose to live outside of society's rules then complain when that society turns against them. Fucking dumb cunts.
raped a girl the other day in wellington
Have you guys always had problems like this?
Fuck motorcycle clubs. They attract the worst shitheads in the motorcycle community. It doesn't matter if a club is legal weekend warriors, legit active duty/veterans, criminals or a combination thereof. They are all scumbag retards that shit all over the motorcycle community and give it a bad name. At best they ride like retards and shit up bars. At worst they get in fights kill people. Fuck motorcycle clubs.
Source: Someone who has been riding motorcycles since 1979 and has never been in a club because white or colored, peaceful or violent ALL MOTORCYCLE CLUB RIDERS ARE WORSE THEN NIGGERS.
Disclaimer I am not a 1%er. I have an interest in security research and light interest in cultural anthropology. I grew up with a number of people who went on to join MCs so I like getting thoughts on the culture from outside the culture.
Thank you for your input. I think sometimes non 1%ers or even 1%er non big four members go out of their way to act like HE GUIZ WE ARE WILD AND CRAZY TOOO DUN MESS WITH US.
Yeah there have been a few incidents like this. They are not an everyday thing, but you can expect one every leap year or so. They have a fucked sense of loyalty and will throw down anywhere, even at an International Airport/Gold Coast Casino, doesn't matter. If anyone gets in the way they will be possibly killed (1%, Law or Civilian; doesn't matter).
I really wish Australia had their guns back. Ever since we lost our guns criminals are far more brazen. In the old days Bikie and crims kept shit low key because getting shot by a scared 10 year old called Kevin with his new Luger .22 Pump Action he got for Christmas was a distinct possibility pre 1992.
Give them a break they have fucking cancer
Yeah I was watching a AUS TV series called Underbelly about cats like Victor Brincat I think? I remember watching it and thinking how universal criminality is and how it is just different names and faces but the same people.
They ain't selling them weed mate, they make their money with meth.
Also thoughts on the Cronulla riots?
Here is a good recent story to research. It involves mostly criminal gangs and a gang of police thugs. No shit. Cops that are in a gang. The incident went down at a motorcycle expo last year. A fight broke out, people were stabbed and people were shot. Keep in mind this was at a motorcycle expo that has been going on yearly since 1978, was not intended as a gang rally, was open to the general public and is now canceled this year because of the incident. While the official story is the cop gang did no wrong who knows what the real truth is.
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>be me
>about 3 months ago
>sitting on a bench in a park smoking weed with friends
>out of no where biker rides off road onto grass going about 80 km per hour
>bike shaking like crazy
>crash.jpg
>guy tries to restart bike
>bike doesn't work
>hear police sirens
>guy gets the fuck out of there
>after 20 mins friend check out bike (at least 5000€ bike so worth checking out)
>stuck in first gear and gears are broken
>keep chillin
>3 hours later cops show up
>come over to us
>dinseenufn.png
>cops take 2 hours to get bike out of there
To this day stil don't know what he did.
The IO? They have been on my radar for a while. Between the Tampa incident and that one I find them to be extremely questionable. I believe their origins were with an ex USSS agent. My own view is that if is there no big case against them in the next few years (as we all know it takes the v& years to build cases) there is something deeper going on.
Bunch of faggots
>IO
Yes. That was the cop gang involved. The shooter was IO. He is or at least was working as a guard at a prison at the time.
>for anyone not in the know IO stands for Iron Order
Yeah shady as fuck. Not that actual 1%ers aren't. Thoughts on the Waco incident at the whatever it was..chicken wing joint or whatever.
>Or across Europe for that matter with 1%er culture expanding into Migrant Culture.
Jesus. Rev up the fucking gas chambers already.
>Someone who has been riding motorcycles since 1979
bitch how old are you? it's fucking sad a man your age is on this shit hole of a website
It is interesting stuff. There are Muslim "Sharia" style bikers and muslim immigrants who reject it and fall into the more "rock and roll" biker culture.
For instance this video
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Is labeled as
"Hells Angels vs Turkish Immigrants in Denmark".
What it doesn't mention is the shooter was actually a secular Pakistani member with ties to the HA. The opposing side is Sharia Style Club members. Much more complex than "white bikers vs Muslims".
They were big here in the 70's-mid 90's. Still plenty around and are currently having a resurgence.
Shut the fuck up. Us ancientfags are the hands that built the internet.
Now get the fuck off of my lawn!
always into pizza and hotdogs too... fuck all those motherfuckers.
which group?
I didn't follow that incident too much. I just shook my head. That is the kind of shit to expect when around clubs. Pretty sure some people that got caught up in it were just idiots at the wrong place at the wrong time acting tougher then they really are. That is the problem with clubs. Idiots acting hard and being stupid happens easy when its a group thing.
Something that I would like to mention is the true 1%ers that keep to themselves, mind their own business and keep their shit out of the public eye I have no issues with. They are outlaws and I respect that.
Its all these more modern clubs that act like niggers that are an issue. Legal or criminal if a club is up in everybody's face demanding respect because they think they is hard ass motherfuckers they are a problem.
A good example of legal clubs that are problematic are all the veteran clubs in the US. There is some rally that has events in different states where they set up a memorial wall and veterans who ride come in and ride their shitty Harleys all over the place. I lived in a small town that had the rally come in a few times. After a couple of summers that rally wasn't invited back anymore. It wasn't becaus of crime it was because the vets just came rode their bikes back and forth through town like they owned the place, shit up the hotels, got in the service industries face at restaurants, gas stations, stores demanding special treatment and were in general just a bunch o assholes. For a small town that relies on tourism not to ask a few thousand people to come back and spend money says a lot about the whole situation.
Here is the rallys site
Is that shit street legal?
No joke, you would have no blood flow to your arms after 5 minutes.
Very Unsafe!
>Is that shit street legal?
In America it is.
Roger that.
Are they actually that bad?
A lot of Hells Angels clubs make a point of not acting like meatheads and attracting unnecessary police attention.
They just chill at the clubhouse and do crime stuff on the low.
Of course sometimes it gets ugly when others interfere in their activity.
There was a biker war in Montreal in the 90's where like 135 people got killed over a few years… nobody wants that over a sustained period. It's not fun or profitable.
I want to have my own MC. One without drugs and that's anti-degenerate. We would focus on making a shit ton of money and preparing for happenings.
We would then travel to happenings to participate in them, and have our own comfy biker bar to go back home to. We would celebrate with our in-group of roasties after each happening. Happenings would be daily preferably. Would basically be like Valhalla.
How to make this happen Sup Forums?
They have done a lot of bad shit over the years. I think massive law enforcement action caused them to tone it down. I don't really care about inter or intra crime organization violence. That is the life they chose. If they get whacked it is part of the game. I have major problems with shit like this.
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A I wrong, or arent these clubs made up of Americans who are extremely patriotic, and more often than not, despise left wingers, black lives matter types, communists, etc.
I think these are the type of people who could save America and be on the good guys team, in a left vs right conflict, if necessary.
Do you feel that Canadian Law enforcement has the adequate tools to deal with it now?
The Cronulla riots were the result of an attack on iconic Australia surf life savers on Cronulla beach by Lebanese/Muslim shitheads. Now growing up in Australia these shitheads enjoyed a liberal approach to their religion and way of life. In sense they HAD to respected to a certain and a lot of them took advantage of this classical Australian cultural respect, by demanding their religious and personal view on others. Aussies had a gut full of this bullshit and the group who instigated the attack at Cronulla chose the wrong part of town to do it. Very strong aussie surf culture there. SMS communication was a new thing and word to BASH MUZZY CUNTS AT CRONULLA BEACH spread faster than anyone anticipated. ALSO it didn't help that local media was fueling fear and speculation against ethnic groups either.
After all and said it ended up in a clash between white bogans and anyone with different colored skin, for a few hours. Too many cunts the easiest way to find a cunt to smash was if they looked like a greasy fucking leb. The next day everyone was back on the beach playing cricket, leb and aussie alike. But NO Lifeguards were being bashed and that was what was important.
Most 1%ers I have met hate the US government. They are complex however. Most if not all of the big 4 allow minorities in. They are pretty apolitical in matters of political theory such as communism.
cringey as fuck
>be a totally self sufficient badass criminal
>ride a brand new garage queen (every harley)
pick one
>s. Much more complex than "white bikers vs Muslims".
It sounds like pig fuckers vs goat fuckers vs whites..
Thank you! As someone from OC I can completely understand this. I have never gotten that take on it before.
Grew up around HA. It is a criminal organization but some fine people are involved. Then again I am not a statist cuck like most of pol since this place became /r/thedonald
i responded early on, talking about how they're fronts for organised crime @ i just want to make it clear, i know the difference between an MC and an MCC
and i also have first hand knowledge of several MCs in my country going to war with each other over territory, several members being hospitalised, shot and killed over the rights to run drugs
Well the whites in this case were defending a Pakistani dude who shot up a sharia MC club member. That is why they were there.
I knew one biker. He was in the KKK (100% srs) and got a lot of pussy, made his own liquor and sold them in mason jars.
His political views were weird as fuck. They may have been Sup Forums tier, but I was so young and creeped out by a racist in current year, I never hung around him too much. I ust don't remember.
Most of the other bikers he hung out with were cynical but patriotic. Many were vets. A few were firemen. A couple were obese and trashy. I was kind of shocked by how intelligent some of them were. All I met made it a point to always be ready to fight irl.
Th whole brotherhood thing made me jelly desu.
A good 99% club is choice, just keep the junkies out. Most guys that ride also shoot so there's that.
You young shit. I got my motorcycle license in 1980 and have ridden ever since.
No backtalk you whippersnapper.
>muh reddit-tier age meme
feel free to off yourself anytime, buddy
Motorcycle clubs and gangs are more diverse then you realize. Members of the organizations can come from all walks of life from upstanding pillars of the community to criminal scum and everything in between. Sure some are as you describe. Others are not.
every old guy i know knows someone within their social circle that rides with some MC like the bandidos or HA.
It's funny because I or no one I know does anything like that. Are they more secretive with RICO and stuff now adays?
Thank you. I guess for personal reasons I always ponder American subculture in other countries.Especially ones that have a tendency towards violence.
So basically, you can have an upstanding Army Veteran intermingling and being best friends with a hardened criminal robber / drug dealer type in one of these clubs?
>stuck in first gear and gears are broken
The fuck kind of shitty motorcycle was it? I'm used to offroad and trials bikes that get the shit beaten out of them.
This
>Hey we may sell meth to teenagers but we also give money to children with cancer so we're good people.
If they wanted to just ride bikes there wouldn't be a problem
most MCs are drug or gun runners. The real question should be what does Sup Forums think about bikers in general?
My dad, uncles, the family friends, and older cousins all ride, or at least used to ride. Been looking to get a Harley and start, but I don't wanna end up like those motorcylclefags in South Park
want to get something like pic related, any Sup Forumsacks who ride got any advice?
>that rides with some MC like the bandidos
Who exactly are they?
I know my town used to be somewhat controlled by them. According to my parents and their friends anyhow. I know they killed a guy in the back of a bar for sleeping with one of their girlfriends, chopped his dick off and tossed him off a bridge.
Freeto Bandito soldier here AMA
They actually introduced new laws specifically to deal with that situation.
I don't recall specifically what it entailed, but there was some organized crime bill brought in that allowed them prosecute them more effectively.
It seems to have worked because things have settled down -- I don't hear anything about bikers lately
There was a bit of a scare that Montreal clubs were thinking about moving chapters into Toronto, but nothing came of it…(that i'm aware of)
...it seems fairly under control now.
Not the poster you're responding to, but I live 5 minutes from Cronulla beach. We didn't go far enough. The shire (the region Cronulla is in) is still considered a white bastion of Australian culture, but I give it 50 years max before it dies too.
They deal meth and weed around here.
We have sons of silence, hells angels, and iron horseman around here
yeah they've been in some major beef incidents with other MCs. Mostly they're from tx and the south. But i think most MC have chapters all over the globe these days though.
Have you ever felt in danger by any organized crime elements in Canada?
>bitch how old are you? it's fucking sad a man your age is on this shit hole of a website
Got my MC license in 1991. Go fuck yourself.
are you mexican?
>0
What do you like better Jack In The Box or In and Out?
Peoria Illinois....Voltars MC
>Bellingham
Shit, I guess they were pretty big around here. I'm a short distance away in Anacortes, apparently they got pretty comfy here selling heroin.
One money-making scheme the Banditos have going is leading a council of all the local vanilla biker clubs who pay a membership fee. The council is supposedly for political advocacy/action for laws affecting motorcycling. So it has a lot of savvy synergy, a steady stream of money, pool to recruit from, dominance of the territory, and a potential political force if any DA tries to come after them.
>Motorcycle Clubs
bunch of nu male metrosexuals obsessed with tattoos and bondage fashion
>muh drugs and guns maymay
the true essence of the bikie is lost on these effy tards
So Confederation correct?
anyone wearing a known gang patch should be arrested on sight
anyone wearing a 1% patch can be detained for a year
If I ever feel like killing myself I will bring a gun to the local Hells Angel's club (which in Hamilton Ontario is boldly signed like a business) and shoot as many biker criminals as I can.
It's bullshit because they obviously break the law but the get away with it though legal loopholes
What laws do you feel they get away with? If any individual member is breaking laws shouldn't your local and federal law enforcement be able to arrest them?
Amen
Someone's walk of life will determine what club they are in. Different clubs have different cultures. Its like alignment in DnD. Birds of a feather flock together is a good way to put. The wild card is get enough people together and the unruly crowd mentality can kick in and anything can happen. The Iron Order mentioned earlier in the thread is a good example. Since its all cops for the most part they probably are all right. Put them in a room with other clubs and the result is chaos at best, out right gang war fare at worst.
>bunch of nu male metrosexuals obsessed with tattoos and bondage fashion
Is this the Aussie trolling i've heard so much about?
Bike clubs are the opposite of nu males you stupid fucking faggot. It's hard ass old dudes that vote republican overwhelmingly and don't give a fuck about feelings.
Again, the OPPOSITE of a nu male.
Perhaps Aussie bike clubs are nu male though
forgot to add this pic
I'm a Pagan
wow,
the HA get away with EVERYTHING. the cops look the other way because they are dirty (especially hamilton) and the people are fearful
the HE is a known criminal organization who have murdered people and are known to sell illegal substances to the already degenerate society that is down town hamilton.
>liveleak.com
nothing fucking happened? but damn they got some fucking pimpass nice jackets/coats
...
But is it simply MC rivalry or does the IO know they are protected from (most) prosecution?
It would be like the Crips vs the Local county Eagle scouts.
Candabro I was asking simply because I do not know how things are up there.
RIP LASAGNA1
Confederation? Maybe, sounds familiar. A coworker is in a recognized (dues-paying) biker club with some faggy ass stupid name. They're basically making the LARPers pay to roleplay.
Faggots
That is an actually good reference. Although LARP in general didn't seem to be a frequent term until The Count Varg came.
I remember a long time ago a very close big red one/desert storm friend explaining what larping was.
yeah the older guys is what im talkin about as the true essense.
this is one of the first results for bikie on google
Been looking to get a Harley
>I don't wanna end up like those motorcycle fags in South Park
Do yourself a favor and buy Honda.
>reliable so always starts and runs
>if in good shape and kept that way will only ever need maintenance
>smooth so no vibrations to cause your ass and hands to go numb
>generally have a nice seat and suspension so your back won't take a beating
other then that
>yamaha reliable + performance
>kawasaki can be little less reliable + performance
>suzuki bland
>bmw expensive in every way though reliable
>ducati get your check book out when you buy it and after every ride, hope you enjoy working on bikes or paying someone to
>harley actually not that great of bikes, vibration, less then great suspension, good for primarily riding in a straight line, many parts made overseas now, arcane assembly methods, mostly a status symbol, hur muh chrome if you are into that kind of thing, expensive for one that is decent
rifk
The real eboss.
>tfw no more 2strokes
WHY
so u I heard u was mirin my bi-ceps
Yeah, anyone with any street smarts know all of their fronts in town. One of their tattoo parlors got firebombed by chinks and the town was crawling with them for a couple of weeks. Some with 666 patches and others that are squeaky clean to spread out police resources.
rifk.
Never change ausbros.
No.
the front tire is flat, both tires are brand new, like they only wheel the thing out to pose infront of a camera
Overwhelmingly tattooed degenerates that peddle drugs.
>Still has chicken strips
0/10
>t.20 year old faggot that thinks he'll ever leave this place