It's pretty obvious that leftist is in decline, when did it peak?

It's pretty obvious that leftist is in decline, when did it peak?

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According to Sup Forums we are in control of western governments, the media and the economy. How has the left peaked.

>when was did turd fresh?

They peaked with the election of King Nigger

this too

1928 Germany or 2008 NYC

NYC SF or LA

no, you're new here, (((they))) are in control of the media and the economy, (((they))) aren't leftists, they're leftists when in the US or Europe, but when they're in Israel they're right wing as fuck

the sjw madness, that's when a chunk of them decided they wanted out of the ride

Probably when the refugee crisis began

Is it the same fucking kid?
>Deport Racism shirt
>Tuck Frump shirt

LAst year, when their delusions became so far apart from reality that even young children could see through the lies.

leftists are useful idiots, they are in power insofar as they are useful to (((them))).

Case in point is how Bernouts got cucked, tucked and fucked by the DNC, Clintons and media

> According to Sup Forums we are in control of western governments

huh?

For Europe it was the rapefugee crisis, for the US it was the political correctness gone mad stage of public discourse that was peak left

>fukh8
Just some t-shirt merchants trying to make a buck. No bully.

It peaked on 2015
Right before the fruits of the refugee crisis began being harvested

election of obama. Might have risen to absolute power if the nigger actually did anything useful but it just led to people becoming alienated.

They're not. And you are stupid if you think they are. The left is going to decline slightly for the next couple of years and less extreme. By the end of Trump's 1st or 2nd term everybody is going to be tired of republicans and they are going to elect a liberal into office.
>According to Sup Forums we are in control of western governments, the media and the economy. How has the left peaked.
>According to Sup Forums
lol
>How has the left peaked.
The liberal black president that has been in office for the last 8 years.
This.
America has barely been accepting refugees. The left went to far left and became to extreme. The same thing is going to happen within the next 8 years with republicans.

Market analyst here. Peak leftism/degeneracy was when Target made a public announcement saying their toy sections were now gender-neutral. It may be a coincidence, but the polling numbers for "hypothetical Republican candidate" began to go up that week.

> They're not. And you are stupid if you think they are. The left is going to decline slightly for the next couple of years and less extreme. By the end of Trump's 1st or 2nd term everybody is going to be tired of republicans and they are going to elect a liberal into office.

Those dynamics don't longer apply

Once politics go tribal they won't revert, the Upper Mid West is becoming more republican

...

You'll hate me for saying this but the pendulum is now set to swing back the other way. This is how things have always worked. Liberals got so far up their own ass, they got btfo. Now conservatives will do the same with Donald Trump and actually they have been more accelerated than liberals.

The day before Trump won

> The pendulum is now set to swing back the other way
> This is how things have always worked.

Unless you are going to tell me that slavery returned in 1890, then I will have to ask for proofs

Proof is that if you look at modern presidents, you'll see a pattern of electing a democrat, then a republican, then a democrat and on and on. I'm not saying all the changes are reversed.

Jews are. Jews are leftists and neocon cuckservatives. They are two sides of the same coin with the goal of destroying white people.

>Those dynamics don't longer apply
They do, history repeats itself. Clinton wasn't a true liberal. Also Trump is the counterculture right now because of too much liberal bullshit. Trump is eventually going to become mainstream and when he fucks up just like if not worse then every other president has done then we will get a left winger in the office.

might be a different type of democrat in 8 years. I would have voted for an anti establishment dem this year and probably MI, WI, Pennsylvania would have too

This.

>20 year old dipshit detected

Trump is unlike any president we've had in 100 years.

2012

Seeing how we got a different type of republican, this is a very very likely possibility.

>might be a different type of democrat in 8 years
I almost guarantee it. And I'm not so sure it'll last 8 years. It might but it might not. Trump is a very unstable character. That's a large part of why he won but it may also be the reason he fails.

> I'm not saying all the changes are reversed.

Not a single one of the important policies that the Progressive Left implemented in the 1960s has been reverted as of now

You have been getting progressive and progressive light presidents that STILL pass progressive politics (Nixon affirmative action, Reagan amnesty, Bush no child left behind), and globalist policies (Clinton NAFTA, Obama TIPP), nothing like a significant swing

Trump may be the first deviation to the rule in 60 years if he actually pushes for ending birthright citizenship and fair trade

i don't think that leftism is in decline. schools and universities (especially universities) are brainwasing the young as we speak. the west is dead in 20 years

You're not in control of anything Ahmed, you're just a pawn.

>16 year old dipshit who was too young to remember the George Bush presidency and how Trump is doing a lot of the same shit that'll end up getting some one similar to Obama elected again.

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> Trump is eventually going to become mainstream
> the counterculture right

that implies that the counterculture right will randomly vanish if Trump becomes mainstream

the contrary is more likely, specially given that Keith Ellison will be the democrat leader

polarization won't be stopped

>Trump may be the first deviation to the rule in 60 years if he actually pushes for ending birthright citizenship and fair trade

The former requires a constitutional amendment and it doesn't even seem like Trump genuinely wants that now that he has won. He is a salesperson. He has flip flopped a lot.

The later doesn't mean what you think it means.

As for the progressive policies, I think you're right. The long history of civilization seems to be moving toward liberalism regardless of hang ups and set backs.

truth

Labour party is at historical low levels of support, Socialist French Party won't go past the second round, SPD is a crony of Merkel, the PD lost their referendum, and Austria is rapidly polarizing

The internet is breaking the back of the left

he uses it in that context so I will
> Negotiate fair trade deals that create American jobs, increase American wages,
donaldjtrump.com/policies/trade

I know that leftists have their own retarded version of fair trade tho

> it doesn't even seem like Trump genuinely wants that now that he has won

exactly. if he ends up governing like a liberal, why would there be a push against the right?

if anything the counter-culture right will be pissed

>And Sup Forums isn't brainwashing people.
Being a liberal doesn't mean that you are brainwashed. Telling people that there are 60 something genders is. Kind of like people on here thinking that all muslims are terrorist, blacks are all dangerous and the Jews control everything.

>and the Jews control everything.

But they do control pretty much all the media and banking, the two things you need to effectively rule a nation.

> Sup Forums
> brainwashing

You are a moron if you think a site where opposite opinions constantly clash is somehow brainwashing anyone

I don't think he's necessarily wrong.

It all depends on how these first two years with Trump go.

Republicans have been given a golden duck but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll keep it.

The people in the Rust Belt have no loyalty to Republicans. If their issues aren't addressed, we could maybe see a repeat of what happened with Obama.

Remember he had a Dem controlled congress the first two years. His major actions those two years where Healthcare, which most people considered not a pressing issue in light of the failing economy, and the massive Bank bailouts, which was a slap in the face to most voters.

The result was Republicans taking Congress and gaining ground ever since.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans fuck this up, and Trump ends up having to fight a Dem controlled Congress for the rest of his presidency. Some notes on that, is that Dems typically have lower turnout during midterms, but the last election should have put a fire under their asses. Also, the Dems havn't quite figured out if their gonna continue to push the progressive agenda (Muh 2.6 million popular votes means our message wasn't wrong) or try to court their former working class white voters. That will be something to watch during the next two years.

And, not to sound like a concern troll, but if Trump's cabinet choices don't turn out to be him playing 46d space chess, I can see him losing his popular support.

I think it's too early to say it'll swing back. He literally hasn't even taken office. I don't think it's wrong to say the possibility exists in certain scenarios, however.

redpill me on him Sup Forums

He seems like a Redditfugee to me, judging by the his other posts.

also this

never mind that brainwashed moron is attacking a strawman to justify his brainwashing

recognizing that muslims bring terrorism with them, and that blacks bring crime with them is somehow saying that every single black or muslim is a danger

About 2013-2014.

>he uses it in that context
He's not an economist and uses buzzwords to sell people on ideas.

>I know that leftists have their own retarded version of fair trade tho
You're implying I'm a leftist without the vagina to just up and say it. It's also ad hom and basically a buzzword at this point to claim everything contrary to your POV is leftist/liberal/sjw. Fair trade has a definition.

>exactly. if he ends up governing like a liberal, why would there be a push against the right?
He's not the only one in government. We have a majority conservative congress of both houses now and majority of governors. Also because he isn't Sup Forums-tier doesn't mean he's full liberal. He is liberal on some issue and not on others.

>This
The rapefugee crisis was like the final left bubble and it bursted so hard they still think it is a wave 4 correction

The counterculture won't vanish, it'll just become mainstream and accepted by everyone.

Trump always was already extremely unpopular when he won, Republicans won their races AHEAD of him in most cases

there is no "swinging back" from politics going tribal, only Balkanization

Yugoslavia is not going to appear again tomorrow

>and Trump ends up having to fight a Dem controlled Congress for the rest of his presidency

The chances of that are less than zero. In case you hadn't noticed, there are basically 3 factions within the Democratic party right now, all fighting and hating each other.

1)Clintonian corporatist neolibs (Schumer, Pelosi etc.)
2)"Real progressives" i.e. Bernie's commies who figured out identity politics is not a winning strategy
3)Batshit insane SJWs who want to triple down on identity politics

Unless they sort their shit out and fast (they won't), they'll get massacred again in 2018.

>Just like it fucked up the right a couple or years ago and was one of the reason why sjwism spread so quickly.

> it'll just become mainstream and accepted by everyone

Not in a tribal environment, it is going to be fought tooth and nail. Mexicans consider the south west as theirs, and what whitey thinks is not going to change their opinion

>only balkanization

Honestly I wish it would. There is huge ravine in America and I think both sides would be happier in their own separate societies.

>being a liberal doesn't mean you're brainwashed
anyone who supports mass immigration, has zero sensibility for history/culture/nation is a brainwashed drone

>Sup Forums believes all muslims are terrorists/all blacks are criminals
firstly, Sup Forums isn't one person. secondly, the vast majority of blacks/muslims are dangerous subhumans

theres a giant desert with mountains between mexican centers of population and the US southwest

he was a madcunt

youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic

2012, I think

Sometime under Obama, possibly 2011. Can anyone even remember when all this gender Tumblr shit first started coming out?
I sort of remember. Sup Forums was making posts about it and my first thought was "This'll never catch on." How wrong I was...

The Tories NEVER were at the poor level of support Labour is now, neither was the French Republicans in respect to the Socialist Party

In a tribal environment, once you go right, you don't go back

Despite the Sup Forums ranting and ravings, numbers 1 and 3 are a small minority. Most liberals fall under 2. Number 1 consists of elites but they have to try to convince the voter base in number 2 to get elected.

that didn't stop them from becoming the majority minority in California and Nevada

Leftists are religious lunatics

they will want to fight it out

You're implying all liberals support not only immigration but "mass" immigration.

> the vast majority of blacks/muslims are dangerous subhumans
I meme you sound cool posting this but it's statistically demonstrably false.

He will govern like what a liberal used to be (jobs for working people, stay out of pointless foreign wars, etc.), but ironically, current year liberals will continue to think of him as Literally Hitler because all they know anymore is identity politics.

So are some of the right. Quite literally religious to boot.

>Most liberals fall under 2

2015/2016 Dem Primaries would beg to differ. Daily reminder that Hillary beat Bernie by a pretty significant margin of 3.7 million votes. So no, "most liberals" do not fall under number 2, that's a delusion most "real progressives" have because they never or rarely venture out of their echo chambers.

sure, they have low levels of support, but when the elections come in the netherlands/germany/etc. it will be a struggle between 1 anti-immigration party versus a coalition of all other parties. just look at geert wilders, he will win more than 30% but the leftists will stay in power. and as soon as the old conservatives die, and the brainwashed drones turn 18+, europe is dead

> and the brainwashed drones turn 18+

The generation Z is allegedly estimated to be far, far more conservative and nationalist than millennials or even boomers.

Yes, being rebellious in 2016 and onward is NOT being a degenerate.

2014

> statistically demonstrably false

70 % of french inmates are muslims m8

You are gonna struggle with your case

If you go the "but not every single one of them is a criminal terrorist", I shall remind you that in a tribal environment it does not matter

pakis would have been unable to run a child raping ring if the local paki politicians had not been covering up for them for years, the communities agree with the behavior of their criminals

which is also why blacks have a stereotype against sniitching

You lack self awareness because if you talk to the majority of Democrats, they aren't all SJWs or neocons. Because Hillary got elected doesn't mean liberals all think like Hillary. Are you forgetting that the DNC set it up for her to get all the press and to make Sanders look insane? The youth voted for Sanders. The old people hardly knew who the guy was and only watch mainstream media. They hardly looked into the details of policy positions and weren't critical enough because they were complacent after 8 years of owning the presidency.

2015, or at least that's when they pushed too far and people started to reject and slowly push back within their irl social circles.

>it's statistically false that blacks and muslims are parasites
look up the statistics yourself newfriend, you're in for a wild ride

>you're implying all liberals support not only immigration, but mass immigration
most of them are pro mass immigration because they've been brainwashed into believing that niggers/muslims are the same as whites

This is a clever way of using statistics to try to make someone arrive at conclusions through fallacious logic. Your stat doesn't tell me that 70% of Muslims are inmate, all it says is that they are more likely to be inmates. They may be and probably are still a minority within their own demographic. But you know this. We are on Sup Forums. Why waste my time with this low quality bait?

please re-read my post. I did bring up that point, but I didn't expand on it as much as you did.

>Also, the Dems havn't quite figured out if their gonna continue to push the progressive agenda (Muh 2.6 million popular votes means our message wasn't wrong) or try to court their former working class white voters. That will be something to watch during the next two years.
>That will be something to watch during the next two years.
>That will be something to watch

I think it's funny Sup Forums thinks everyone who voted Trump is a die-hard Trump supporter and a new lifelong republican

gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
I can only assume that number has gone up since 2014.

>You are a moron if you think a site where opposite opinions constantly clash is somehow brainwashing anyone
>opposite opinions clash
If you disagree with Trump you get called a cuck, retarded or a redditor. This site is just one big ass circle jerk and is just as bad as reddit. Also if you were secure about your opinions then you would take in all information and choose what you think is right instead of being close minded to other sources.

>Newfag calling people who disagree with your circle jerk a redditor to try to fit meme

> he felt for the religious right meme

most of them dont give a fuck about what a socialist jew hippie said 2000 years ago

> stay out of pointless foreign wars

he is stuffing his cabinet with neocons and generals

at the end of the day, it may be the alt-right that will have to denounce Trump and not the other way around

> old conservatives die

that is another meme

Sup Forumslacks are not normal people: usually you go right-wing after you have children and grand children and have to care about the future of them

the hippy baby boomers gave the election to trump

only people with kids should be allowed to vote

>most of them are pro mass immigration because they've been brainwashed into believing that niggers/muslims are the same as whites
You have absolutely no stats to back that up. Your feelings aren't valid arguments. We have a tenancy to overestimate things that are sensational to us.

>shifting goal posts
Is the argument that they are "dangerous subhumans" or that they are on welfare?

>they aren't all SJWs or neocons

They're not all socialists either. True, I don't talk to them, but actual hard data proves my point.

>Are you forgetting that the DNC set it up for her to get all the press and to make Sanders look insane?

Are you implying that a man who says "whites don't know what it's like to be poor" isn't insane? They don't need to "make" him look insane, all they have to do is let him talk.

>The youth voted for Sanders.

They'll grow out of it the moment they start paying taxes and having to take care of their families, should they ever have ones.

>most of them dont give a fuck about what a socialist jew hippie said 2000 years ago
You seem unfamiliar with American politics. Perhaps Sup Forumstards don't care about that. Perhaps the alt-right doesn't. But the larger population of conservatives flip out over gay marriage and the like.

> but muh 70 % of muslims are not inmates!

again, that does not matter. they are tribal, their communities are a nest of criminal behavior


OH NO!!! SOMEONE INSULTED YOU!! THAT SOMEHOW PREVENTS YOU FROM ARGUING AND ANSWERING BACK!

Oh wait... you just did idiot!

Me calling you a moron didn't censor you!

> But the larger population of conservatives flip out over gay marriage and the like.

yeah, that is why they voted for a newyork republican that congratulated Elton John for his gay marriage

>you have no stats to back that up
apart from the fact that europeans have been electing pro mass immigration parties fo the last X years

>are they dangerous subhumans or on welfare
the former comes with the latter. look at what's going on in germany (the rise of immigration = the rise of crime + the rise of welfare recipients). this is the case in all western countries that have a large influx of immigrants

>They don't need to "make" him look insane, all they have to do is let him talk.
Never the less, you know as well as I do that Hillary winning the primaries has a lot more to do with simply liberals all agreeing with her world view. She even copy pasted Sander's platform. We all know she is a fake and a politician. You can blame the overall democrat base for falling for the lies and pomp and I'd agree with you.

>They'll grow out of it the moment they start paying taxes and having to take care of their families, should they ever have ones.
To an extent yes. They'll probably compromise their left wing positions for something more left of center but the other progressive stance are unlikely to change much. Liberals by and large aren't SJWs and neocons. Just like conservatives aren't all white nationalists or neocons.

Literally every single one of your talking points has been disproved by actual hard data we now have available, yet you still persist on being a fucking imbecile. No wonder you've a hard-on for that miserable cuck Bernie.

It peaked in 60's. There were some serious shit going on in western countries. Soviet supported of course.

>zero sensibility for history/culture/nation
You mean the fact that America was built on immigration?

>firstly, Sup Forums isn't one person.
Said people on here not everyone on here.

>the vast majority of blacks/muslims are dangerous subhumans
You should seriously get off of your computer and go outside occasionally and make some friends. One race might have a higher percentage of crime/violence but that doesn't make them the vast majority. Also the crime numbers are largely inflated. Look at how many blacks are in prison due to weed possession. I'm not defending them breaking the law but shit like that should be considered into you "statistics."

>again
There's no again. That wasn't your original argument.

>yeah, that is why they voted for a newyork republican that congratulated Elton John for his gay marriage
Yes because this was highly publicized this election cycle and on their mind and now "BUILD WALL"

>This site is just one big ass circle jerk and is just as bad as reddit.

Bullshit.
You might get called names, but if your argument has merit it is perfectly possible to have a good discussion here.
We don't have censorship against the groupthink via downvoting into oblivion and shadow banning dissenters.

I thought we were talking about America?

The only people who voted for Trump are rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Hillary.