You have 10 seconds to explain why Communism is not the perfect political ideology

You have 10 seconds to explain why Communism is not the perfect political ideology.

Because it is set for failure and anti-White.

Equality is not the ideal state of society.

What should I do with my remaining time?

Hoomin nature

It requires mass hivemind of the people to revolt against the state

Not everyone shares the same sentiment obviously

It doesn't work.

Because for it to work, everyone must agree.

You do not have my consent and I have a lot of guns. Your system fails there. I'll shoot any commie that tries to take me to the gulags.

I know it's hard to grasp over there, but retarded things tend not to be perfect.

because history has shown and proven it lead to disaster and didn't stay true to its implied altruistic worth that it was sold as.

that wasnt real communism

58 million dead people.

What does world war 2 have to do with this?

Oh, my bad.

It's actually 94 million. Mixed up my death tolls.

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>religions are fine despite a murder count of over half a billion
>communism is das verboten because 94 million

Incompatible with human nature

good people who were under the historical manifestation version of it become like cuba now compared to uganda you can say its something to be proud of. if you want to be taken seriously with real communism then try convincing cuba as the test bed? id say go for it, what could they lose?

Because all that comes form it is an Authoritarian shithole socialist state with severely restricted freedom.

Communism is the lie that plebs (like you OP) are told they will one day have, once Socialism does its job.

>and they actually believe the state will step aside.

lol.

nobodys perfect

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Communism is a utopian ideology.

you're betraying your country OP by switching to gommunism :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

The difference is nobody here is trying to argue that religion is perfect

Blue is an objectively superior color

>this thing that used to happen hundreds of years back is much worse then this thing that is actively going on, why are you even worried?
kys commie scum

Communism may be perfect as an idea, but humans are flawed by nature.

In order for communism to work, there must not be a speck of corruption, or people will starve and die.

Also, all people must be willing to work. To put a spade in the ground, and to flourish the acres of land with food.
Lazy people means less produce, so people will starve and die

No true Scotsman fallacy, not an argument

then stop using death tolls as an argument unless you're going to be consistent with it. Forbid communism? then actively try to forbid religion too.

Otherwise you're just using it as a buffer for a real argument

Many people are lazy.

There are 200 countries on the planet. Only a mere 5 of them have communist govts. They are China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam. Let's examine their GDP per capita:

China = $6,500
Cuba = $6,000
Laos, North Korea, Vietnam = $1,000

And now let's take a look at capitalist democracies and their GDP per capita:

Norway = $67,000
Switzerland = $58,000
USA = $55,000
Ireland = $49,000
Australia = $47,000
Sweden = $46,000
Germany = $46,000
Taiwan = $46,000
Canda = $45,000

Most of the world's population consists of people who are willing and able and aren't afraid to dedicate decades of their lives to getting in the game, confronting life's challenges, and doing the work necessary to build a life for themselves and their family. And then there are the cowards who would rather spend their entire lives suckling on their mommy's teet and crawling back into the comfort of her womb. They spend decades of their lives whining and making excuses, believing they are constant victims and entitled to the fruits of another man's labor, only to end up bitter, lonely, miserable, and poor. The politicians who are owned by the billionaire capitalists and multinational corporations call those people "useful idiots". The useful idiots prefer to call themselves communists.

fallacy fallacy (look it up)

not an argument

It's been tried and has failed numerous times.

>But that wasn't real communism

Kys. That's like saying leeches were the perfect medical treatment we just never used them the right way.

The world needs to move on and you faggots need to die if you get in the way of that.

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Because it would result in a nigger world.

Except if people did a conservative national communism, like it existed in some countries.

>it wasn't (((real communism)))

Because real communism doesn't exist.

Christianity hasn't gone around beheading people for a few hundred years, so how about no you dumb faggot?

"How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin." — Ronaldus Magnus

>Religions were the result of a tribal instinct we have and so many isolated civilizations all formed their own, which likely united and boosted their own growth and prosperity

>Communism tried, tried, tried, tried, tried, and failed due to the fact that humans are fallible creatures, and just ended up killing 94 million people with nothing to show for it except bread lines.

kek

because it's not working

It was established by British intelligece to counter the American revolution. There done.

Good enough for you m8?

>world war 2 is so old

>here here, let me pick up on even older history than ww2

>i will tell you that cold war communism was not real communism and always forever never explain what real communism is.

inb4 real communism is what SJW's believe.

because it empowers people like this faggot

Violates the NAP.

There, only too me 3.

It doesn't exist

North Korea is Juche, not Communist.

Breadlines

checked: because it kills millions and it never works. AidsSkrillex BTFO

Oh those things America had when capitalism failed hardcore?

Capitalist countries that harvest organs from Falun gong practitioners: 0

I thought you autistic neckbeards gave up trying to shill here

sad

Communist countries that murder babies in the womb: 0
Communist countries that experience terror attacks: 0

Some people are lazier than others

Also russia and china suck

A poorly represented idea or argument is wrong because you didn't make it a better case and used a fallacy to cover a point against it,in retaliation you call fallacy on the fallacy.

Ok, communism doesn't work because people can't institute it properly in anything beyond small farming communities.

My callout of your fallacy still stands, and you haven't successfully rebutted any argument put against you

not real communism is the best communism

The government controls the press and doesn't let anything out

lol this.

Since you clearly didn't look it up, I'll fill you in:
Calling something a fallacy doesn't make it automatically wrong. It's called the fallacy fallacy.

You mean those things every communist shithole had every day?

All communism does in practice is create a new aristocracy where the political leaders get rich on the backs of the people. For communism to actually work you'd need a nation where every single person is a saint.

this should've been the first post, I'm dissapointed.

Its proven non functional

It was never intended to be, Marx was simply trying to predict the future of an industrial society, in some ways he was right but he underestimated the counter culture to "Marxism"

Because it requires my consent, which you dont have

So what about taxes then?

that's our worst. that's your best.

Because the concept of a Meritocracy is literally biologically hardwired into our brains. The only perfect Human Political Ideology is a Meritocracy based on demonstrated ability.

Fucking mongoloid.

This is closer to Communism's best, actually

Volgograd, 1941

I looked it up,you dumb bastard, at no point did i say your argument was wrong because of your fallacious argument,you assumed that on your own. I just called out the flaw in that argument
argument, not your ideology as a whole. Mayhaps learn to debate and you'd be able to counter my point and everyone else's. You still haven't btw

Because its full of communists and just like them it doesn't work.

>communism is bad because it has communists and doesn't work

Czech edumayabadabadoocation everyone

Still doesn't disprove his point

I used high-tech software to zoom into this photo and this is what I found

>You have 10 seconds to explain why Communism is not the perfect political ideology.

Because people aren't equal. The only way to simulate "equality" is forcing people to the lowest common denominator. To use force, someone has to be the leader of said force. Once there is a head of state in charge of enforcing equality, all pretense of commune has evaporated and you're left with some form of tyranny.

what point?

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>In order for communism to work, there must not be a speck of corruption, or people will starve and die.

not just corruption, but abilities. one man cannot be allowed to profit from his strength, intelligence, drive, etc. he has to be forced to the same level as the others.

would you spill your blood, sweat and tears to make a new business succeed if the state is just going to take it all and hand it out to freeloaders? it takes the drive away.

>Can't see opponents point in an argument
>Challenged Sup Forums to a debate thread

Wew mate, you might want to start smaller.

Checked. Communism BTFO again.

>using money to argue against countries that don't use money

his point was literally "it's bad because it's bad"

No wonder they poor as shit

Well,are we not supposed to call bad ideas bad, or trees trees?

I like the idea of communism but everyone shouldn't be and everyone is not equal.

A wallstreet fag who snorts coke to stay alert every day should not make 10 times as much as a manual labor worker. Yes you should get payed more for your education and for harder/more complicated jobs like computer IT's, doctors, lawyers, bankers etc. but the difference in pay shouldn't be that huge.

Cant we mix capitalism and communism and make a system where no one is getting fucked in the ass but skill is rightfully rewarded

People are not perfect, ideology is the same.

people don't want to be equal

Equality imposed by force (tax) would achieve nothing, and do much harm.

Jews and those with kike-like minds would soon find ways of making themselves rich again. Worse still, the super-taxed "rich" would feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received benefits form the government would feel no gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the gift. Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it would actually do moral harm. Material justice cannot be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to change people’s hearts first — and then they will joyfully share their wealth.

Where's the USSR today, commieboo?

The natural progression of a nation is towards capitalism, just look at Vietnam

I live in a former USSR country.

OP, if you didnt get the reply in 10 seconds you should delete the thread
this is how your rules work

10/10 Oc

Those that lead the revolt become the new monarchy.

There that taken 5 seconds to explain.

Communism is much more flawed than capitalism because it starts from the basest and lowest emotions a human can feel.

Instead of working harder, you get jealous of your neighbour because he has a Porsche. Which in 99% of the cases was not bought by enslaving anybody.

To live in community and help others you dont need the State that Communism enforces.

It creates a martyr ideology, where the people are basically Jesus, and everybody else is evil.

Modern feminism is the same, its not about empathy its about hateful speech about how Men are the source of all evil and inequality.

Communism is inhuman and nihilistic, it actually could become much worse than fucking National socialism.
You have to be pretty fucked up.