>be me >in class we're talking about politics >gay adoption comes up >libshit says "no child should be denied a loving household whether they're gay or not"
But if the parents are degenerate who cares if they love each other, right?
Assuming that it parents are non-pedos, caring, loving and keep the degeneracy to themselves.... Which is a big if.
Gays tend to adopt boys. Apart of being motherless, the child will learn a fucked up male-male interaction. Which will get him in trouble as he grows up.
Isaiah Flores
I wouldn't want to be adopted by a gay couple and grow up to know that I was just a toy for some degenerate fucks who couldn't figure out that maybe if you can;t naturally conceive a child with a guy, then you shouldnt adopt one, taking away the chance of being in a normal family from them.
Aaron Bell
this is worse than the mass shootings, tbqh sam
Noah Allen
Actually, it only matters that the child has a strong male father figure.
The only households that breed mental breakdowns are dyke households.
Bumfucker parents come out about the same as normal families, with difference that the child picks a 'mother' and stays with it's pick no matter what the gay guy does. With 'mother' being the one that's the emotional support and treated like a utility parent, not really a person.
Even if we're talking full blown prancing homo lala faggots, they're bound to have some bear friend who'll become the actual father, man, image for the child.
For dykes, it's the whole mental breakdown and suicide route, that anti-gays bring up.
Dylan Stewart
>gay adoption >mfw
Isaiah Baker
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Henry Fisher
>With 'mother' being the one that's the emotional support and treated like a utility parent, not really a person.
Rephrasing it: they are creating a psychopathic monster.
Carson Wright
This actually did make me think, and I agree
Brody Diaz
>tfw i just want to have a traditional family
I dont want to do anything degenerate just have a loving family of 3 with a national socialist bf Pls whats wrong with that?
Joshua Wilson
>Gays tend to adopt boys. everyone, EVERYONE tends to adopt girls, cause China. I see your point relative to dykes though. given that women are naturally bisexual, it's dangerous
Brandon Ross
that's actually normal for child-mother relationships, all children begin as psychopaths
John Morris
If two gay men can adopt why can't I as a single man adopt a little girl?
Just look how happy your pic related are. Two gay men in love, waiting at an adoption center, just wanting to start a strange little family of their own. Who are you homophobic faggots to say these two radiant gay men shouldn't have their own American dream.
I applaud these homosexual men (in your pic) for taking in the children that black people create, so they can be fed and sent to community college. Someone has to do it. We're all equal!
Daniel Clark
That's not traditional
Cooper Richardson
Pls dont remind me i will never be a traditional german housewife ;_;
Brayden Morris
Yes, this is correct. Children, until the age of about 3, do not view their mother as a person. They're the safe space, the food source, the only way to regulate their emotions.
I personally find this hillarous, as I can stop my son from doing this with a look or a gesture when were at home. Outside, he's well behaved. But my wife can't even stop him physically, he'll try to fight her, like he's fighting a constraining blanket or a chair in his way.
BTW, the gay parent things are basicly her words, she's did her master thesis on bonding, attachments and mental health of children from abnormal families compared to normal families.
The absolute worst shit happens in welfare families. Abhorrent parenting is basicly fucking genetic in those useless shits. You haven't seen shit untill you've seen a multi-generational, 'traditional' family living in 2 rooms with 5 kids, a cancer-ridden grandfather and the fucking lover of the wife, all being OK with the dying grandfather sleeping in one bed with a 10 year old boy, who has symptoms of sexual abuse.
Christian Peterson
I'm honestly curious, are there any studies about children's development with gay parents?
Being raised by two straight men is not equivalent, since they lack the strong dominant-submissive aspect gay couples have.
Ian Baker
being adopted in general leads to much worse outcomes generally, though. any study that doesn't account for this is inherently flawed.
Jaxon Clark
Just ask them if they'd be ok with a little girl being adopted by a single man living alone.
Camden Wright
Gay people don't need to adopt to have children. They can rent a womb and purchase eggs from egg banks.
Joseph Mitchell
>isreal Kek
Zachary Morales
I personally don't think it's good to really raise a child in a gay household but if they are both wealthy and can provide for the child well and do there best to ensure the child comes out socially normal I see no issues with it. After all they aren't reliant on the state.
Adam Evans
>I'm honestly curious, are there any studies about children's development with gay parents? Yes, lots.
>Being raised by two straight men is not equivalent, since they lack the strong dominant-submissive aspect gay couples have. Not even sure what the fuck are you trying to say here.
Raising a child requires two things - emotional stability and a strong role model.
The first is the mother component, the second is the father component.
Both of these can come from outside of your family. That's why some welfare children break the cycle and sometimes their children don't become parasites, like their biological grandparents.
Ryan Edwards
>social science research >No author >No Date >No Journal HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tyler Hall
Mental illness is no reason to deny a child to a home
Henry Reyes
Help me Sup Forums I would want to have children but seeing these stats i wouldnt want to have a child if the consquences are so negative
Carson Wilson
>Yes, lots. To elaborate, I'm right now holding in my hand a book titled "Abnormal families: About gay couples and their children in perspective of the attachment theory" and the sources list about 200 peer reviewed articles about children raised in gay couples. You might be interested in: 'Comparing the impact of homosexual and heterosexual parents on children: meta-analysis of existing research'. Journal of homosexuality, 32(2), 19-35
That has citations of most of the good, proper stuff from the 80s and late 70s, on the sexual orientation of sons of gay fathers (not more gay than regular sons, although more of them have tried being faggots).
Eli Brooks
why are you reading a book about faggot parenting?
Jackson Lee
does this go in my fag folder or my kike folder?
Lincoln Bennett
Dude, it's 2016!
Nicholas Brooks
ok they really look like pedos.
Also that baby on the right has a fucked forehead lmao
Julian Perez
It's a scientific work about the attachment theory in abnormal situations.
I basicly just said "do we have anything about faggot parenting on hand", and I got that. Might actually read it, since I'm running dry on books I haven't read in my side of the home library.
Jordan Walker
>Australia
anyone surprised? Btw, they were pimping out the kid for free for pedos just get it fucked.
Alexander Gray
>ok they really look like pedos You don't say....
Here is the new Prime Minister pictured at a Pride Parade in Toronto, Ontario in 2013 - On his left, is a convicted pedophile named Ben Levin, who helped the woman on the right, create the highly controversial new 'sex education curriculum' for the province. This new curriculum teaches grade schoolers that there is 6 different genders, and all about anal and oral sex.... This teaching start at grade 1. (btw, the 6 genders are: male, female, transgendered, transsexual, two-spirited and inter-sexed)
This photo was taken 1 week before Mr. Levin was arrested and charged for crimes relating to pedophilia
>"On March 3, 2015, Levin pleaded guilty to three charges relating to making and distributing child pornography. He was sentenced to three years imprisonment." >3 years >Levin
Gay parents = 1 parent and an uncle. Should be as hard for them to adopt
Connor Scott
horrible for the kids. even if it wasn't, fags shouldn't be around kids ever any way
Noah Garcia
>leaf
Do I fukin hate Trudeau.
Brayden Cook
>strong dominant-submissive aspect this is completely backwards. have you ever met gay people?
Jose Cox
A child deserves the love of a mother and a father. Only a selfish person would willingly deny a child that.
A child with a stable loving mother and father has the best chance at success in life.
Jonathan Bennett
if not proxy, then R A R E
Luis Nguyen
is that a rare? it seems rare
Charles Taylor
>look like
if there was only a way to id these people...
Andrew Edwards
You will never be a traditional German housewife
Aiden Bennett
My ex was adopted by two white Christians and hes a korean. He's /fit/ and is a mechanic. I think he did pretty good. You're thinking of blacks getting adopted. I knew 2 black who was a adopted, one OD and another knocked up some fat white chick and he has STDS. Poor parents.
Gabriel Brown
>"no child should be denied a loving household whether they're gay or not"
They're absolutely right. The problem is faggots don't know what love is, that's why they all play musical arseholes even when they're in relationships or "married".
Nicholas Thomas
Good point, I guess we'll never know...
Luis Powell
He was just practicing what mohammed told him :^)
Justin White
Even if they have a higher chance of fucking up the kid in some way, it's still better than them just being an orphan.
Easton Foster
Well OP, your parents are straight, and look at you now. I don't see how gay parents would inherently do worse.
Levi Hernandez
First and foremost, the notion of the state enforcing a loving home somehow is fucking horrendous. What exactly is a loving home? Who decides? What is the mechanism of measurement? Of enforcement?
But beyond that, children with a homosexual patent perform measurably worse across a range of outcomes than children of their natural biological parents.
Evan Harris
it's funny that mohammed never talks about that job at the Peace Research Institute
Christopher Ross
Stop pls :(
Dominic Ortiz
If gays can adopt and not be discriminated against when a family of being selected, single fathers should get the same treatment.
Joseph Adams
Should only be used in cases where the child is going to be a ward of the state for 10+ years.
Leo Anderson
if homosexuality is either primarily genetic or epigenetic to the point where it is measurably determinable from conception to within, say the first 3 years of birth, would it be better if we either preferentially or only gave gay parents gay kids?
Aaron White
>Is the nuclear family the ultimate red pill? no, two fathers who cant create a child naturally should take care of all the children
Landon Torres
>better yet start testing them in the womb like you test for autism
into the trash it goes
But I am sorry to rain on your parade. Homosexuality is something you pick up along the way, We are all born normal.
Lucas Hughes
>We are all born normal. that's such a fucking cozy sentence lol
Isaiah Edwards
it's another tool to bring in more undesirables in from third world shitholes
i know you fags are lurking this thread so listen here: don't fall for the adoption jew
Colton Reed
Gay people will never have children without fucking them over.
Tyler Bailey
I think yes.
First of all there is no intrinsic need for a healthy male/female couple to adopt - whereas gays HAVE to adopt if they want a child so we're talking pretty big numbers of people WILLING to adopt orphans.
All the people complaining about the intricacies of how the child is raised "they need both male and female influence" "they might learn degenerate behaviors" do you REALLY think that whatever lifestyle awaits them in a fag home is WORSE than being in an orphanage?
I dont know what orphanages are like but I would estimate that actually having parents is usually better than not. Even if they are degenerates.
Put yourself in that situation. Wouldn't you rather have all the food/clothing/shelter and live in a normal house with normal birthdays, christmas your own bicycle, computer, games etc than be a poor little orphan boy all your life?
Cooper Moore
I forgot 1 thing: Who pays for orphanages? Probably the tax payer.
Ryan Diaz
Arent a lot of orphanages religious anyway? So theres far more mental damage being caused there and probably more creepy weirdo predators too.
Zachary Butler
There's no way there isn't a heavy genetic basis for homosexuality. Considering autism and mental illness is there's no reason homosexuality wouldn't primarily be a result of genetics. Although, I've thought this before to pose to equalityfags: If we actually could prove straight/gay in the womb and gave parents the choice, and terminate as an embryo when liberals say the life doesn't matter, the overwhelming majority of people are going to choose to have straight kids.
Benjamin Roberts
Seriously? At this point who in his right fucking mind would trust gay adoption.
Back-burner this shit until we get to the bottom of that pizza thing.
Ryan Gonzalez
True, just not the home of the mentally ill
Robert Ortiz
Not having one parent of both sexes in the house is bad.
Julian Brown
>tfw people would kill their children when theyre gay But user how am i ever supposed to find a partner?
Tyler Nguyen
Wipe your meme from the face of this earth homo
Dominic Ramirez
The thing is gays have a fucked up childhood most of the time themselves. How do you expect them to raise a child based on that?
I had a gay working colleague whose mother left his father to become a coalburner, converted to islam for said coalburner, left him and still is a muslim. He also became a vegan because of her.
All in all he was an agreeable guy but I wouldn't like to see him raise a child.
Matthew Miller
I don't give a shit, not my problem
Jose Phillips
Allowing faggots to adopt a child is simply state sponsored child abuse. Two reprobate degenerate sodomites playing house is not a suitable environment for a child. Gays are incapable of passing along morality, for they are incapable of accepting responsibility. Any faggot who claims to have been born a faggot is lying. Being a faggot is a choice. There is no legitimate proof of being born gay, only p-value hacked "studies" and blind acceptance by godless leftists. Tolerance of sodomy has never led to any sustainable society. Once you say that two queers bumping their dicks together is morally equivalent to a child-rearing marriage, you have no basis argue against pedophilia. Society falls apart. No society that has openly endorsed faggotry has ever been allowed to stand. Our Mexican invasion is a punishment for our acceptance of sodomy as normal. Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no morals. If we do not destroy tolerance, we will perish.
Landon Ward
Luv u 2 bb
Ryder James
Gays should pay for themselves, no reason to "adopt" a gay, they can just get a job
Jack Bailey
That is highly specific.
Oliver Lopez
If evolution wanted fags to have children they would have vaginas.
Thomas Perry
I think the nuclear family is overrated and it's all about how much money the parent(s) have. Yes obviously two working parents *usually* bring in more money but it depends on the occupation. Lots of single people out there make more than a family.
Kayden Thomas
lol
Carter Howard
Yeah, I would be super suspicious if two hetero guys decided to adopt a little girl.
Two gay dudes adopt a little boy and everyone is fine with it.
Everyone knows it's Molestation City, but people turn a blind eye to hideous crimes because it's easier to let it happen than be labelled a homophobe.
Justin Perez
You will never be a traditional German housewife
Jace Cox
I DON'T WANT TO ADOPT A GAY! FUCK YOU!
Isaac Stewart
The cost of being homosexual is not being able to procreate so they have to live with that cost as a repercussion of their life choices.
Adrian Sullivan
:^)
Luis Hall
...
Charles Ortiz
Who gives a shit?
Why do you care what some gays do?
Colton Harris
Is Shlomo getting a dose of his own progressivism?
Ayden Harris
gays have a significantly higher chance of raping their little baby boys
Zachary Allen
Pls bb be my husband
Liam Cox
Gay people deserve all the same legal protections heterosexual people have, but not the same privileges. Putting "gay families" on equal footing with procreative, natural, heterosexual families was a huge mistake. Homosexuals never desired tolerance, they always had that. What they want is public approval and normalization for their degenerate, anti-social behavior. Despite the huge push by leftists, gays will always be abnormal -- it's a biological reality.
Social institutions are fundamentally discriminatory, and they should be. Imagine a soccer league for 8-10 year olds. That discriminates against everyone else by not allowing them to compete. This discrimination is necessary for the league to function. People forget that discrimination used to be a good word. It was a virtue to have a "discriminating mind" for example. But in the name of equality all these things go out the window. A league that allowed 18 year olds to compete against 10 year olds would be chaotic and not fun at all for either group.
Hunter Fisher
Then we could form a traditional family. Id bake you apple pie every sunday
Oliver Myers
Sure why not, though wouldn't fleeing to America be a step down from more white Holland?
Nicholas Green
Pls come to holland we could vote for geert togheter :3
Jeremiah Reyes
Am 5'8" don't want to be towered over by Dutch giants, even your rabbits are huge. At 21 I have to accept I'm not going to grow any more. I also dislike apple pie. Isn't there any Sup Forums bf material over there?
Alexander Gray
Most people that are 21-25 are bluepilled af, the rest that are my age 18-21 are either bluepilled or hate fags :( my friend even said he wanted to "gas the gays"
Nicholas Gray
All children deserve a father and mother
Benjamin Morris
It's redpilled. Think about it. Why have some whore woman raising your kid(s) when you could have two men? Granted, I'm talking about relatively normal male-male couples, not total queens who will turn them tranny or something.
Adam Hill
Also gay people have the same rights as straight people they just choose not to use it
All people have the legal right to marry someone of the opposite sex of the appropriate age
Carter Perry
How old are you? I'm surprised to hear that sort of talk in Holland. All the Dutchmen I have met were fag lovers. So are the ones who hate gays red pilled or Muslims? Well if you are going down a good path you can always flee, like to Germany. You'll just need some shoe polish.