Red Pill Me on Gay Adoption

>be me
>in class we're talking about politics
>gay adoption comes up
>libshit says "no child should be denied a loving household whether they're gay or not"

But if the parents are degenerate who cares if they love each other, right?

What are the reasons against gay adoption?

Is the nuclear family the ultimate red pill?

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Assuming that it parents are non-pedos, caring, loving and keep the degeneracy to themselves.... Which is a big if.

Gays tend to adopt boys. Apart of being motherless, the child will learn a fucked up male-male interaction. Which will get him in trouble as he grows up.

I wouldn't want to be adopted by a gay couple and grow up to know that I was just a toy for some degenerate fucks who couldn't figure out that maybe if you can;t naturally conceive a child with a guy, then you shouldnt adopt one, taking away the chance of being in a normal family from them.

this is worse than the mass shootings, tbqh sam

Actually, it only matters that the child has a strong male father figure.

The only households that breed mental breakdowns are dyke households.

Bumfucker parents come out about the same as normal families, with difference that the child picks a 'mother' and stays with it's pick no matter what the gay guy does.
With 'mother' being the one that's the emotional support and treated like a utility parent, not really a person.

Even if we're talking full blown prancing homo lala faggots, they're bound to have some bear friend who'll become the actual father, man, image for the child.

For dykes, it's the whole mental breakdown and suicide route, that anti-gays bring up.

>gay adoption
>mfw

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>With 'mother' being the one that's the emotional support and treated like a utility parent, not really a person.

Rephrasing it: they are creating a psychopathic monster.

This actually did make me think, and I agree

>tfw i just want to have a traditional family

I dont want to do anything degenerate just have a loving family of 3 with a national socialist bf
Pls whats wrong with that?

>Gays tend to adopt boys.
everyone, EVERYONE tends to adopt girls, cause China. I see your point relative to dykes though. given that women are naturally bisexual, it's dangerous

that's actually normal for child-mother relationships, all children begin as psychopaths

If two gay men can adopt why can't I as a single man adopt a little girl?

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Well, happiness is everything.

Just look how happy your pic related are. Two gay men in love, waiting at an adoption center, just wanting to start a strange little family of their own. Who are you homophobic faggots to say these two radiant gay men shouldn't have their own American dream.

I applaud these homosexual men (in your pic) for taking in the children that black people create, so they can be fed and sent to community college. Someone has to do it. We're all equal!

That's not traditional

Pls dont remind me i will never be a traditional german housewife ;_;

Yes, this is correct. Children, until the age of about 3, do not view their mother as a person.
They're the safe space, the food source, the only way to regulate their emotions.


I personally find this hillarous, as I can stop my son from doing this with a look or a gesture when were at home. Outside, he's well behaved.
But my wife can't even stop him physically, he'll try to fight her, like he's fighting a constraining blanket or a chair in his way.


BTW, the gay parent things are basicly her words, she's did her master thesis on bonding, attachments and mental health of children from abnormal families compared to normal families.

The absolute worst shit happens in welfare families. Abhorrent parenting is basicly fucking genetic in those useless shits.
You haven't seen shit untill you've seen a multi-generational, 'traditional' family living in 2 rooms with 5 kids, a cancer-ridden grandfather and the fucking lover of the wife, all being OK with the dying grandfather sleeping in one bed with a 10 year old boy, who has symptoms of sexual abuse.

I'm honestly curious, are there any studies about children's development with gay parents?

Being raised by two straight men is not equivalent, since they lack the strong dominant-submissive aspect gay couples have.

being adopted in general leads to much worse outcomes generally, though. any study that doesn't account for this is inherently flawed.

Just ask them if they'd be ok with a little girl being adopted by a single man living alone.

Gay people don't need to adopt to have children. They can rent a womb and purchase eggs from egg banks.

>isreal
Kek

I personally don't think it's good to really raise a child in a gay household but if they are both wealthy and can provide for the child well and do there best to ensure the child comes out socially normal I see no issues with it. After all they aren't reliant on the state.

>I'm honestly curious, are there any studies about children's development with gay parents?
Yes, lots.

>Being raised by two straight men is not equivalent, since they lack the strong dominant-submissive aspect gay couples have.
Not even sure what the fuck are you trying to say here.

Raising a child requires two things - emotional stability and a strong role model.

The first is the mother component, the second is the father component.

Both of these can come from outside of your family. That's why some welfare children break the cycle and sometimes their children don't become parasites, like their biological grandparents.

>social science research
>No author
>No Date
>No Journal
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mental illness is no reason to deny a child to a home

Help me Sup Forums
I would want to have children but seeing these stats i wouldnt want to have a child if the consquences are so negative

>Yes, lots.
To elaborate, I'm right now holding in my hand a book titled "Abnormal families: About gay couples and their children in perspective of the attachment theory" and the sources list about 200 peer reviewed articles about children raised in gay couples.
You might be interested in:
'Comparing the impact of homosexual and heterosexual parents on children: meta-analysis of existing research'. Journal of homosexuality, 32(2), 19-35

That has citations of most of the good, proper stuff from the 80s and late 70s, on the sexual orientation of sons of gay fathers (not more gay than regular sons, although more of them have tried being faggots).

why are you reading a book about faggot parenting?

does this go in my fag folder or my kike folder?

Dude, it's 2016!

ok they really look like pedos.

Also that baby on the right has a fucked forehead lmao

It's a scientific work about the attachment theory in abnormal situations.

I basicly just said "do we have anything about faggot parenting on hand", and I got that.
Might actually read it, since I'm running dry on books I haven't read in my side of the home library.

>Australia

anyone surprised?
Btw, they were pimping out the kid for free for pedos just get it fucked.

>ok they really look like pedos
You don't say....

Here is the new Prime Minister pictured at a Pride Parade in Toronto, Ontario in 2013 - On his left, is a convicted pedophile named Ben Levin, who helped the woman on the right, create the highly controversial new 'sex education curriculum' for the province. This new curriculum teaches grade schoolers that there is 6 different genders, and all about anal and oral sex.... This teaching start at grade 1. (btw, the 6 genders are: male, female, transgendered, transsexual, two-spirited and inter-sexed)

This photo was taken 1 week before Mr. Levin was arrested and charged for crimes relating to pedophilia

lifesitenews.com/news/child-sex-offender-ben-levin-said-himself-that-he-was-in-charge-of-crafting

>"On March 3, 2015, Levin pleaded guilty to three charges relating to making and distributing child pornography. He was sentenced to three years imprisonment."
>3 years
>Levin

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Levin_(academic)

The research is real, but bordering on bogus fundamentalist bullshit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Family_Structures_Study#Criticism

Gay parents = 1 parent and an uncle. Should be as hard for them to adopt

horrible for the kids. even if it wasn't, fags shouldn't be around kids ever any way

>leaf

Do I fukin hate Trudeau.

>strong dominant-submissive aspect
this is completely backwards. have you ever met gay people?

A child deserves the love of a mother and a father.
Only a selfish person would willingly deny a child that.

A child with a stable loving mother and father has the best chance at success in life.

if not proxy, then R A R E

is that a rare? it seems rare

>look like

if there was only a way to id these people...

You will never be a traditional German housewife

My ex was adopted by two white Christians and hes a korean. He's /fit/ and is a mechanic. I think he did pretty good. You're thinking of blacks getting adopted. I knew 2 black who was a adopted, one OD and another knocked up some fat white chick and he has STDS. Poor parents.

>"no child should be denied a loving household whether they're gay or not"

They're absolutely right. The problem is faggots don't know what love is, that's why they all play musical arseholes even when they're in relationships or "married".

Good point, I guess we'll never know...

He was just practicing what mohammed told him :^)

Even if they have a higher chance of fucking up the kid in some way, it's still better than them just being an orphan.

Well OP, your parents are straight, and look at you now. I don't see how gay parents would inherently do worse.

First and foremost, the notion of the state enforcing a loving home somehow is fucking horrendous. What exactly is a loving home? Who decides? What is the mechanism of measurement? Of enforcement?

But beyond that, children with a homosexual patent perform measurably worse across a range of outcomes than children of their natural biological parents.

it's funny that mohammed never talks about that job at the Peace Research Institute

Stop pls :(

If gays can adopt and not be discriminated against when a family of being selected, single fathers should get the same treatment.

Should only be used in cases where the child is going to be a ward of the state for 10+ years.

if homosexuality is either primarily genetic or epigenetic to the point where it is measurably determinable from conception to within, say the first 3 years of birth, would it be better if we either preferentially or only gave gay parents gay kids?

>Is the nuclear family the ultimate red pill?
no, two fathers who cant create a child naturally should take care of all the children

>better yet
start testing them in the womb like you test for autism

into the trash it goes

But I am sorry to rain on your parade. Homosexuality is something you pick up along the way, We are all born normal.

>We are all born normal.
that's such a fucking cozy sentence lol

it's another tool to bring in more undesirables in from third world shitholes

i know you fags are lurking this thread so listen here: don't fall for the adoption jew

Gay people will never have children without fucking them over.

I think yes.

First of all there is no intrinsic need for a healthy male/female couple to adopt - whereas gays HAVE to adopt if they want a child so we're talking pretty big numbers of people WILLING to adopt orphans.

All the people complaining about the intricacies of how the child is raised "they need both male and female influence" "they might learn degenerate behaviors" do you REALLY think that whatever lifestyle awaits them in a fag home is WORSE than being in an orphanage?

I dont know what orphanages are like but I would estimate that actually having parents is usually better than not. Even if they are degenerates.

Put yourself in that situation. Wouldn't you rather have all the food/clothing/shelter and live in a normal house with normal birthdays, christmas your own bicycle, computer, games etc than be a poor little orphan boy all your life?

I forgot 1 thing: Who pays for orphanages? Probably the tax payer.

Arent a lot of orphanages religious anyway? So theres far more mental damage being caused there and probably more creepy weirdo predators too.

There's no way there isn't a heavy genetic basis for homosexuality. Considering autism and mental illness is there's no reason homosexuality wouldn't primarily be a result of genetics.
Although, I've thought this before to pose to equalityfags: If we actually could prove straight/gay in the womb and gave parents the choice, and terminate as an embryo when liberals say the life doesn't matter, the overwhelming majority of people are going to choose to have straight kids.

Seriously? At this point who in his right fucking mind would trust gay adoption.

Back-burner this shit until we get to the bottom of that pizza thing.

True, just not the home of the mentally ill

Not having one parent of both sexes in the house is bad.

>tfw people would kill their children when theyre gay
But user how am i ever supposed to find a partner?

Wipe your meme from the face of this earth homo

The thing is gays have a fucked up childhood most of the time themselves. How do you expect them to raise a child based on that?

I had a gay working colleague whose mother left his father to become a coalburner, converted to islam for said coalburner, left him and still is a muslim. He also became a vegan because of her.

All in all he was an agreeable guy but I wouldn't like to see him raise a child.

I don't give a shit, not my problem

Allowing faggots to adopt a child is simply state sponsored child abuse. Two reprobate degenerate sodomites playing house is not a suitable environment for a child. Gays are incapable of passing along morality, for they are incapable of accepting responsibility. Any faggot who claims to have been born a faggot is lying. Being a faggot is a choice. There is no legitimate proof of being born gay, only p-value hacked "studies" and blind acceptance by godless leftists. Tolerance of sodomy has never led to any sustainable society. Once you say that two queers bumping their dicks together is morally equivalent to a child-rearing marriage, you have no basis argue against pedophilia. Society falls apart. No society that has openly endorsed faggotry has ever been allowed to stand. Our Mexican invasion is a punishment for our acceptance of sodomy as normal. Tolerance is the virtue of a man with no morals. If we do not destroy tolerance, we will perish.

Luv u 2 bb

Gays should pay for themselves, no reason to "adopt" a gay, they can just get a job

That is highly specific.

If evolution wanted fags to have children they would have vaginas.

I think the nuclear family is overrated and it's all about how much money the parent(s) have. Yes obviously two working parents *usually* bring in more money but it depends on the occupation. Lots of single people out there make more than a family.

lol

Yeah, I would be super suspicious if two hetero guys decided to adopt a little girl.

Two gay dudes adopt a little boy and everyone is fine with it.

Everyone knows it's Molestation City, but people turn a blind eye to hideous crimes because it's easier to let it happen than be labelled a homophobe.

You will never be a traditional German housewife

I DON'T WANT TO ADOPT A GAY! FUCK YOU!

The cost of being homosexual is not being able to procreate so they have to live with that cost as a repercussion of their life choices.

:^)

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Who gives a shit?

Why do you care what some gays do?

Is Shlomo getting a dose of his own progressivism?

gays have a significantly higher chance of raping their little baby boys

Pls bb be my husband

Gay people deserve all the same legal protections heterosexual people have, but not the same privileges. Putting "gay families" on equal footing with procreative, natural, heterosexual families was a huge mistake. Homosexuals never desired tolerance, they always had that. What they want is public approval and normalization for their degenerate, anti-social behavior. Despite the huge push by leftists, gays will always be abnormal -- it's a biological reality.

Social institutions are fundamentally discriminatory, and they should be. Imagine a soccer league for 8-10 year olds. That discriminates against everyone else by not allowing them to compete. This discrimination is necessary for the league to function. People forget that discrimination used to be a good word. It was a virtue to have a "discriminating mind" for example. But in the name of equality all these things go out the window. A league that allowed 18 year olds to compete against 10 year olds would be chaotic and not fun at all for either group.

Then we could form a traditional family. Id bake you apple pie every sunday

Sure why not, though wouldn't fleeing to America be a step down from more white Holland?

Pls come to holland we could vote for geert togheter :3

Am 5'8" don't want to be towered over by Dutch giants, even your rabbits are huge. At 21 I have to accept I'm not going to grow any more. I also dislike apple pie. Isn't there any Sup Forums bf material over there?

Most people that are 21-25 are bluepilled af, the rest that are my age 18-21 are either bluepilled or hate fags :( my friend even said he wanted to "gas the gays"

All children deserve a father and mother

It's redpilled. Think about it. Why have some whore woman raising your kid(s) when you could have two men? Granted, I'm talking about relatively normal male-male couples, not total queens who will turn them tranny or something.

Also gay people have the same rights as straight people they just choose not to use it

All people have the legal right to marry someone of the opposite sex of the appropriate age

How old are you? I'm surprised to hear that sort of talk in Holland. All the Dutchmen I have met were fag lovers. So are the ones who hate gays red pilled or Muslims? Well if you are going down a good path you can always flee, like to Germany. You'll just need some shoe polish.