Roman Catholicism Vs. Evangelical

Help me Sup Forums, I am at a crossroads. I have decided to accept Jesus back into my life, but I don't know what kind of church to commit myself to.

I was Baptized and Confirmed as a Roman Catholic, but have not been an active member since I was confirmed (~10 years or so ago). Half of my family is Irish and fully Roman Catholic, while the other half is very, very Evangelical. They are both trying to recruit me. The Catholics seem a little more chill about things, but masses are boring and the Pope is a cuck. But the Evangelicals seem overly fanatical and seem super strict on many things.

Can anyone give me some advice?

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Orthodoxy bro

You know what's funny about a lot of the Christians that hate Catholicism?

Most of their Christian ancestors were probably Christian. Baptists and Protestants really aren't that old. Also, baptists didn't start with the king james

>Join the church started by Christ (Catholic or orthodoxy, those 2 are the only ones with legitimate claims)
>Join a church that started 1500 after Jesus with misinterpretation on the bible and church history.

Read the early church fathers; see what they have to say.

The Roman Catholic church's official doctrine is that you get into heaven on good deeds alone and not by faith. They did this because they intended these "good deeds" to be donating money to their church

pic related, they never changed it

>I have decided to accept Jesus back into my life,
I don't believe you. I think you're one of the normal christcuck shitposters mixing it up a bit. Take this crap to

>Catholics
>Pope is evil cuck
>(((Jesuits))) are essentially Freemasons masquerading as Christians
>Church has decayed and fallen from glory

On the other hand, as another user pointed out, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are the only denominations with rightful claims to Traditional (with a capital T) Christianity. I vote Orthodoxy.

Forget Protestantism. In America, Protestant churches are mostly just community centers now. Some fly rainbow flags out front, like the Episcopalian church near my old university. Some allow you to wear flip flops and a t shirt to the Sunday morning service. Bad, heretical, waste of time. And many have made quite convincing arguments that it was Protestantism, and especially John Calvin, that successfully made worldly ambition a virtue rather than a sin. I tend to agree with that line of thought.

i'm non denominational.
We accept all Christians no matter their denomination.
Each person has their own belief in what Jesus ment by his words.
As long as you believe in him and listen to his words you are a Christian.


"There is neither Greek nor Jew, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Jesus Christ."

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Talking about God these days is Politically incorrect.
So talking about Christianity belongs on Sup Forums

if you want to be a true Christian go baptist, don't worship idols or what they call 'mary'

>baptist
But infant baptism is biblical

Masses are 'boring' when you're ten and keep thinking about that new Nintendo game waiting for you at home. If you're serious about your faith, dedicate some serious time to reading and comprehending why things are done a certain and what you can learn from each Mass every Sunday. If you feel like you don't have the time or the energy, go to a random 'christian' church instead, to sing and clap and dance and cheer when someone yells 'praaaaise the Looooord' and if you're really out of luck with where you end up, you may even have to help them hang the Gay Pride flag at their door.

Spoiler: if being a Christian is an easy and comfortable activity, you're doing it wrong. True Christian happiness comes from acting the way the Lord wants you to, not the other way around. God bless.

*a certain way

Accept Kek into your life.

The mass is blasphemy

cooompre la manta milagrosa del Espiritu Santo que le cura todos los males! bendecida por el pastor Robertinho en su programa de la trasnoche de Canal 9, Dios en su casa a solo 384 dolares...!

Hey paco did you forget how to hablo Engles?

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silence, burger. If you're gonna mock me in Spanish at least do it right. Plus you should really start learning, you don't wanna be the only child left behind when your country finally becomes the United States of North Mexico

do intendo puto pinche pendejo frito cabinaro

[Prophecy of St. Nilus the Myrrh-streamer of Mt. Athos...1651]

After the year 1900, toward the middle of the 20th century, the people of that time will become unrecognizable...At that time the morals and traditions of Christians and of the Church will change. People will abandon modesty, and dissipation will reign...Lust, adultery, homosexuality, secret deeds and murder will rule in society...The Churches of God will be deprived of God-fearing and pious pastors, and woe to the Christians remaining in the world at that time; they will completely lose their faith because they will lack the opportunity of seeing the light of knowledge from anyone at all.
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Hi, brother. I too am looking to reenter into full Communion with the Church. Plan to attend confession for the first time in many years on Saturday so that I will be in a state of grace to receive the sacrament of Eucharist on Sunday.

I've blasphemed the Lord and deeply offended him with my sinful ways. Last night, I cried for the first time and while. And prayed to Jesus to deliver us from the evil that has befallen us. We have lost our way. Civilization is on the road to complete ruin. Vanity, greed, hatred, and lust.

I would recommend going to a traditional Latin high mass of the extraordinary form. And just marvel at the beauty and reverence towards Christ. Even though I was raised in the Catholic faith, I never really understood the tenets of the faith. I didn't realize that Jesus is truly present in the sacrament of Eucharist. In the flesh and bone.

>cabinaro

See

>I have decided to accept Jesus back into my life
but have you heard of the restoration of the true church of Jesus Christ?

so what do I do as a christian in the year 2016?

how do I become a modest God-fearing Christian?

Sure have!

I'm not going to sit through an eight hour documentary. Much less one that promotes sacrilege against the Church.

Catholic masses are comparatively boring compared to protestant/evangelical masses.

It promotes truth. Take the redpill.

>Gnosticism
>Christianity

only in the vaguest sense

Only if you don't understand the significance of the Mass. Mass is a time of reverence and introspection. It's not about holding hands, yelling, dancing, or speaking in tongues. It's a time to peacefully reflect upon the glory of God. And to show Him the utmost respect, reverence and appreciation for his unconditional love for us, his people on earth.

if you want a deeper understanding of christianity and religion more broadly, catholicism

if you're only concerned with the communal and moral aspect, evangelical

try both, see what fits you better

And most importantly, it's a place to receive God's glory - both spiritually and physically (through the Eucharist).

Witnessed. I see you Reformedbro.

The mass is blasphemy. Everything about it is blasphemy. The "host" should be pissed upon, and consecration of it should result in the death penalty for the priest.

my point was not to say that Catholic masses can be more entertaining, but to stress that boredom should be irrelevant to anyone who is honest about their beliefs. I highly doubt that a 1st century man who was also the son of God intended religious events to be 'fun'

Wow! So pissing on the physical body of Christ? Some Christian you are...

It is not the body of Christ, it is mere bread used as an idol.

It's not the physical body faggot, transsubstantiation is an Aristotelian invention that Aquinas fucked with and no one even believed in that shit until well into the 7th century. That's not to mention that there's no fucking way any of the early church fathers even heard of the way that Rome currently articulates it.

You gonna try and tell me you can find transsubstantiation in Augustine? lmao

Don't kid yourself, Christianity was never about easy or chill. It's quite the opposite. If you really want to follow Jesus, do your research on Catholism. (1 Peter 4:12-19)

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Blasphemy!

Don't post that kind of shit. It gives Rome far too much credit to say it existed during the Empire.

I think you would benefit by attending a traditional, solemn Mass, and see if you can't feel the presence of Christ. Maybe a visit to a convent or monastery?

>I think you would benefit by attending a traditional, solemn Mass
I should do that as much as I should attend a sacrifice at the Hindu temple

Get fucked bitch, the concept doesn't exist in the New Testament. Go elevate your "host" and "venerate" some more "saints", kiddie toucher.

I feel something every time a priest elevates the "host" and feels the need to re-perform the "once for all" completed death of Jesus in direct contradiction to the epistle to the Hebrews. Stop with your uneducated bullshit. Rome is a false church and always has been.

>muh idols
>muh stumbling blocks to faith

The arrogance of Roman Catholics in the error is both galling and amusing

So much Zeitgeist style crap in that picture, that has already been debunked a thousand times. People see it on the internet and instantly believe it's the truth-

GIYF

I never heard of this prophecy, really interesting thanks for sharing bro

Well goodnight brothers. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. When I hear Pope Francis speak, I hear the inspired words of God speaking through the Holy Spirit.

Nevertheless, tonight, I shall pray for both of you, and pray for myself - that I may know Jesus more dearly.

Get fucked, anti-Christ. You're not my brother.

>When I hear Pope Francis speak, I hear the inspired words of God speaking through the Holy Spirit.

>that filename
>based Calvinbro

Catholics are so bluepill
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Engaging in homosexual activity is still a mortal sin. He's talking about individuals who may have experienced same sex attraction in their life. Degeneracy is still a sin. Nevertheless, we all have lust. We all face pornography, masturbation, sex out of wedlock. It's inescapable in today's society. We, as Christians, are called upon to reject this. Hate the sin, not the sinner. Judge not, lest ye be judged.

His human life did fail. He died like each and every one of us! But he is God incarnate. As God, he is capable of living without end. But he had to die. He had to know death, so that we would know eternal life. What is so hard to understand about that?

>what is faith and works
>also trusting (((the media))) on anything relayes to His Holiness

Are the Catholic masses in the US really as drab and colourless and uptight as they look in movies and TV shows?
In Australia people go to Catholic masses in shorts and t-shirts and thongs.
Is there a big difference between your north-east Irish Catholics and your hispanic majority churches?

Catholic mass and lutheran liturgy are nearly identical.

t. Catholic convert from Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

Yes, a lot of this is complete lies and blasphemy. The Pope has never said that faith isn't a requisite for Heaven. That's a ridiculous misquote.

Here is a concise explanation of the case for Catholicism, the one true Church, established by Jesus Christ Himself when He walked the earth.

catholic.com/documents/pillar-of-fire-pillar-of-truth

Also, there is an abundance of resources on this site which explain the biblical and historical reasons for many controversial Catholic doctrines, such as:

- Prayer to Saints
- the Eucharist
- the Catholic Marian doctrines
- the Papacy and Apostolic Succession

Etc.

In my own life, I went from being a somewhat non-engaged, lukewarm Catholic to being a true believer as a result of encountering a few Bible-knowledgeable evangelicals at work, both of whom were raised Catholic, but had repudiated that upbringing.

The process of looking for answers to the problems they posed lead me to a much deeper faith and conviction about the Catholic Church.

Don't neglect to pray, and ask God to lead you into the truth as you proceed on this journey.

I'm curious, what do you mean by Jesus' life was a failure? Without the spin.

Yeah, and Jesus totally wanted us to worship Him in a comfy movie theater
by playing crappy acoustic guitar songs that sound like you want to have sex with Him while a "cool and hip pastor" just spouts a bunch of platitudes about love and tolerance.

catholic.com/blog/jimmy-akin/did-pope-francis-really-say-jesus-was-a-failure

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I went to a non-demoninational "church" with a friend once. They literally just sang a few songs and some guy (the pastor?) gave us his review of a book he read about running. That was it.

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Re Catholic Mass as being in contradiction to the "once for all" sacrifice of Hebrews:

holytrinityparish.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/The-Sacrifice-of-the-Mass.pdf

He was abandoned by his friends, declared guilty of a crime he didn't commit in a kangaroo court, and killed like a dog as part of a broad political message by the state.

That's what we would consider a failure of a life. However, it was that exact "failure" where he accomplishes true goal of destroying sin and death.

Too many people get hung up on the "Jesus was a failure" bit without actually listening to everything that comes before and after which adds context and elaboration that is essential to the point of the statement.

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>You shall not put your Lord God to the test

any church you pick is going to lead you away from the actual teachings of jesus christ.

You do realize that the Mass is supposed to be transcendental right? And that every single Mass across history and the planet is done in unity with the first one and the true final one in Heaven right?

I guess Catholics are too dogmatic for me to understand.

constatine started the catholic church.

the catholic church has always been tained by satan.

let any catholic that reads this understand the reason they don't agree with the church today is because the church never wanted to teach the ways of jesus christ in the first place, they wanted to control the lower class.

the church clearly ignores that monotheism is a load of crap, considering how the heavens and the earth were created in wisdom, by the elohim, a term implying a plural number of gods, and goddesses. yahweh and yeshua both have the symbol for woman in their name, the fact that catholics don't allow women to become priests means they're full of garbage, and any religion that does this is similar in its garbagio as well.

Popes come and go. Don't allow your opinion of the Pope get too in the way.

Yes, because a messiah who wore sandals everywhere he went will condemn people to hell for wearing flip flops to church.

You should pray on discretion and intelligence when you express your opinion. I will do it with you.

I was raised Anglican but went through a phase when I was sort of skeptical of religion. Interested about getting more into my faith after watching Jordan Peterson.
Thoughts on Anglicanism (Episcopalianism)?
How do I begin to get more involved in my faith?

Why not just do it by yourself? Fuck organization.

>constatine started the catholic church.
No he didn't
>monotheism is a load of crap
Heresy
>elohim, a term implying a plural number of gods
It is singular in Genesis

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I vote Orthodoxy. I was raised Protestant, and I will always at least internally protest and outwardly refuse to do things like bowing to icons or praying to Mary and the saints, but I wouldn't disagree if somebody claimed that the Orthodox church has maintained elements of the spiritual tradition of Christianity that have since been lost by other churches. I also wouldn't disagree if somebody claimed that the Orthodox church is the church with the strongest link to the true apostolic tradition.

>constatine started the catholic church.
Stopped reading there. You're a fucking retard.

Learn to actual history, bitch. Not what Parson Brown tells you while he's high on bath salts and claiming he's speaking in tounges

genesis isn't originally in fucking english...

>>constatine started the catholic church.
No he didn't

yes he did...

look you faggot. jesus was married to mary magdalen. any church that slanders her as a whore and ignores her gospel, and slanders the wife of my lord and savoir who has handed me the key to death, is worth burning to the ground.

the church is the heretic.

catholicism is not christian, if you dont believe me read the word of god, the bible, and see it yourself

You can bring Jesus back into your life without having to conform to the practices and teachings of one single church, if you're truly intent on it, however, I would join an Orthodox church, as they are the most culturally and traditionally sound and base their teachings back to the founding of the original church.

If you'd rather not join an Orthodox church, which is perfectly reasonable as the Orthodox churches are state based and have a strong emphasis on a culture that might not be your own, they join the Roman Catholic Church. They've got their problems, but honestly not as bad as mainstream evangelical churches in the US. There's nothing wrong with Protestantism, or with the evangelicals, it's just most Protestant churches here in the US proscribe to a very universalist mindset.

Mormons are some of the most based group of Christians, no memein; around. They've got some crazy beliefs but they have the most beautiful culture and family life.

My advice; don't join any church. Worship God and Christ on your own.

Any use of plural forms may also reference the triune nature of God.

>Yes, because a messiah who wore sandals everywhere he went will condemn people to hell for wearing flip flops to church.
To be fair, sandals were kind of the only footwear in that region at that time. Plus in a modern context sandals are seen as incredibly casual and casual=irreverent.

Join whatever but not Cucktholicism.

I have all Sacraments and born into Catholic family. They do not teach the Gospel.

Join a Reformed church.

Read Romans first, it will be clear to you Romans is incompatible with what the Cucktholic Church teaches.

Also they rape children.

Only fringe pseudo-history and apocryphal writings of dubious origin claim that Jesus was married.

Jesus was not married.

Orthodox traditions don't date back to the apostles
>genesis isn't originally in fucking english
I am well aware. Elohim in Genesis does not mean gods but is used to express plurality in unity.
>yes he did...
No he didn't.
>jesus was married to mary magdalen
Blasphemy

>wanting to get torched alive by peasants instead of getting a fair trial by the Holy Church

ok buddy, I'll go ahead and follow the teachings of jesus christ, while you follow (insert name of your church affiliation here) into ignorance, it ends up being bliss anyway.

enjoy being the peasant class to the priests