Atheism is the fastest shrinking religion in the world. Atheism is in decline worldwide...

Atheism is the fastest shrinking religion in the world. Atheism is in decline worldwide, with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world's population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020,

Real surveys and statistics say atheism is on the decline worldwide. Sorry atheists but atheism is not on the rise nor is it winning. It's still the minority and a declining one at that.

The Pew Research Center's statistics show that atheism is expected to continue to decline all the way into 2050 with a continued growth of religion. Other research also shows a huge surge in growth for Christianity in China which is currently the world's most "atheist" nation because of the atheist communist government suppressing religion, the research suggests that China will soon become the world's most Christian nation within 15 years.

This is simply history repeating itself: Christianity prospered in Rome back in the ancient era when it was suppressed and it still grew in the militant atheist soviet Russia when it was suppressed there only a century ago with the majority of Russians today now also identifying as Christian. Just goes to show that atheist suppression of religion still doesn't stop religion.

Sources for the legion of whiny /Redditor/ fedoras that will no doubt show up it this thread:

pewforum.org/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
pewforum.org/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-unaffiliated/
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10776023/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-most-Christian-nation-within-15-years.html
masterrussian.com/russia/facts.htm

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I'm not the fedora tipping atheist, nor I would ever speak bad against God, just because..what if?

But you know what sucks about atheism? I lost my father a month ago. It leaves you with NOTHING. Religion is there to back you up in such cases and guess what, religion is good, if nothing else for hope and emotional support. I'd rather put that in the hands of God than other people.

There, as someone who was a "normal" atheist for a long time, not the hate spewing, all-religious-people-are-idiots kind of atheist.

That feeling of nothingness is exactly why the Jews push atheism. It makes the individual smaller. Easier to control. And the. Of course you want to fill that nothingness with material goods or (((ideologys)))

I'm not sure it's da juice, but the nothingness is definitely to be filled with materialistic things, which never ever fill you, maybe only momentarily, but never for a long term.

The number of atheists arent falling, dummy. There are just born more christcucks and mudslimes, just according to the Jews plan

When will people take the buddhist "no self" red pill. God is just a misinterpretation of a broader concept you can experience easily through practiced meditation.

>christfaggot makes thread
>immediately posts about sexuality

You fucks are so perved.

t. Deist

Thats just it, I cant believe in God because id be willingly lying to myself out of fear

Nobody could possibly know how or why our universe is here so choosing one belief is silly

There's a big difference between not denying God out of fear and being a devoted Christian. I can easily do first and couldn't do latter. Samefag here ( I think my ID changed).

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Christianity has never prospered in Rome. Catholics arent christians.

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Is this a meme? Atheism is a religion in the same way "off" is a TV-channel.

>look at me mommy ive posted it again

Have you ever spoken to an atheist? If this isn't a religion then I don't know what is. Also on my religions list: veganism. Seriously, that shit is crazy.

>teaching an ideology of submission makes you less easy to control than one in which you yourself are the ultimate authority

Wat

Atheism is a contrarian response to Christianity. It accepts all other religions as neighbors, but violently opposes Christianity in every institution. This is an observable and undeniable fact. You can witness it anywhere in the West.

Atheism is growing in absolute numbers - it's shrinking in population % because religiosity is associated with poverty and low education
Guess what else poverty and low education are linked with? Breeding like rabbits

When will people free them from the retardation of religion?
youtube.com/watch?v=89hIRek8o7c

Atheism is Leftism in its every juvenile being.

Why do they have their own churches, monuments, and leaders then?

You posted this same copypasta last night retard, fuck off

I was raised Atheist, and let me tell you it doesn't last. Eventually, you run out of excuses for why you survived. And when you start to believe, and your friends start mocking you... all of a sudden everything in the Bible makes sense. You put into practice it's teachings, and things get better because *YOU* aren't as much of an asshole. You forgive, and soon you find yourself at peace.

I have family who were religious long before me, and they're all terrible people. But so are the atheists in my family. When I realized that they were all sinners, and forgave them for anything, I attained the state they call grace I think.

I've even stopped masturbating, though I still love to look at porn. I just want to start a family now, and save the white race. Trump was given to us so that we could be meek and sweet, but still accomplish our goals.

Human nature alone leads to baboon pack morality. You also don't seem to acknowledge that the submission is towards God, not men.

This is the same as saying 'why are whites engaging in identity politics'
Because everyone else is

Passivity will just get you walked all over

What do you mean excuses?

>that pic
Atheists are sadducees, eh?

I wish atheists would discuss consciousness. Its all about an invisible sky daddy but that discussion is worthless.

So they have a tv channel against all tv channels, then, rather than having no tv.

Atheism is the essence of multiculturalism. You invite being walked on. You will be conquered because you reject Christianity. When all of the good men have gone, only barbarians will remain, and those are the mudslimes that you welcome at the gates.

It is a good thing that at least Eastern Europe won't fall to such foolishness.

Rational self interest might lead people to give the illusion of co-operation but lets be real
You hand someone in a group a gun and tell them you'll give them a million for killing the rest of the group and you wouldn't have time to press start on your stopwatch

People act out pack behaviours as long as it is in their interest to do so

"Consciousness is an illusion"
Everybody using that argument is a golem, though.

So basically "why is atheism acting like a religion" because every other religion does?

At least you're admitting it's a religion

No that's the madness of altruism and morality
The problem is people who feel the need to justify their actions - whether to god or their own sense of morality or other people

It's the madness that makes people look at starving africans or bombed syrians and say aww lets bring them here
As opposed to
That looks horrible lets keep it over there where it has zero chance of happening to me

They aren't neutral, they are ideologically charged. Like a religion. I actually think that humans can't be neutral in the sense atheists claim to be. You can't detach yourself from premises/beliefs.

Why are religious people so retarded, literally everything can be turned into evidence that they're right. It's almost as if they're real human beings, who instead of doing the work or admit that they don't know an awnser, try to change the world into what they believe to be true.

Jew=Christian=Muslim=Liar

It's acting in the interests of your group to prevent having your rights legislated away
There's no dogma to atheism - it's literqlly just not having a belief

>what is the difference of birth rate between first and third world countries: the post

rinse and repeat

Embrace stoicism

Here is Epictetus in Enchiridion on loss.

With regard to whatever objects give you delight, are useful, or are deeply loved, remember to tell yourself of what general nature they are, beginning from the most insignificant things. If, for example, you are fond of a specific ceramic cup, remind yourself that it is only ceramic cups in general of which you are fond. Then, if it breaks, you will not be disturbed. If you kiss your child, or your wife, say that you only kiss things which are human, and thus you will not be disturbed if either of them dies.

They aren't neutral. Instead of worshiping the true God, they worship themselves. They delude themselves into thinking evil doesn't actually exist and that everything is relative. Men from generations ago would call them mad. Their nihilism leads to population suicide, as has been observed through the statistics I've posted, so they are only a temporary problem. The thing that must be avoided is to allow them any voice from this point forward, lest we join them in their suicide.

>No dogma for atheism
>they literally have a church, monuments with their holy scripture written on it, and priests

Atheism is declining at a time when the human race has thousands of nuclear warheads lying around everywhere?
You do realize that's not good, right?

How about you take your LARPaganism and burn in hell.

>relativistic simpletons are dying out and Christian people are turning against globalist satanic kikes in never before seen numbers
>bad
Post again when you turn 18.

Maybe some atheists do - but that's their own subset not any overriding component of atheism

That's like saying transubstantiation is christian dogma because catholics believe it

**>2k16**
**>not being an atheist**

**What's wrong with you guys?**

It's very good. A bunch of nihilist who don't believe in objective morality or any kind of cosmic justice are the most dangerous people. Look at Mao and Stalin, they committed worse atrocities than any religious person

Ah so it's just a different sect than yours in the grand religion of atheism.

You're playing semantics and you know it leaf

There is no essential connection between atheism and relative morality. For example, I am an atheist who believes that morality is absolute.

yep, atheism is a stupid anti-human concept. the desire to believe in a greater purpose is incredibly beneficial to the human mind and frankly the species as a whole.
to throw that all away because of autistic "BBUUT God technically cant be proven and measured 100% right now in front of my eyes" is an utterly idiotic kneejerk response to the stupid shit that religions pull.
I get it, religions say a lot of really stupid shit. I dont let churches tell me what to believe about anything, they are not my boss. God is.
The general concept of a higher power is very cool and awesome and it gives peace and distances yourself appropiately from all the daily bullshit and up & downs of life and gives you hope when there is none "rationally" to be had. Well guess what, it's rational for me to try and live my life no matter what happens. I really think that real christians would never kill themselves for example, which is a useful property to have. "mahaha i lost my job / gf, now im so sad and i kill myself" - this shit happens all the time and would be preventable with faith

All you christcuck faggots telling us atheists to "just believe man" even though there's no evidence, because it will have positive effects on happiness etc.
This belief apparently makes skydaddy real

You know what else has no evidence of existence and makes me a better person
>my waifu
Why is she still not real hmmm?
Why can't I choose to believe in her and make her real, huh?
Shut up christcuck faggots and your "eyy believe lmao" mentality

Just how fucking old are you? I could do this when I was 12, but now that I actually have a wife and a child, I could never consider them as objects.

Remind yourself on why/how placebo works.

Atheism is a tree that bears only bad fruit.

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I've blacked out from booze and drugs way too many times. I've lived in cars my whole life, and been in handcuffs, naked on the floor, after assaulting someone. No jail, no death, no serious injury. At a certain point, you have to admit that it's not your drunken shuffle getting you home at night.

And why did God take my headaches away? Why did he give me legal weed? A handsome body, and no male pattern baldness at age 28? How dare I treat this beautiful treasure like it was trash? Why did God give me the wisdom to see his plan? It all seems so easy now.

>For example, I am an atheist who believes that morality is absolute
Then you're an incoherent idiot. For an absolute moral law their requires an absolute moral law giver. There's no rational argument you can make for an absolute moral law without a moral law giver

can you remind me please i still don't understand the difference between jesus and my waifu

It's a selection bias

If you'd died any of those times then you wouldn't be thinking about it

There's plenty of people who die from these things and they aren't questioning it because they no longer exist to question it

It literally is just statistical chance clouded by selection bias

objective morality is dumb and naive. subjective morality is how things are

False. The existence of an absolute moral law giver adds nothing to absolute moral law. For if the law is correct, the law giver is unnecessary. And if the law is correct and the law giver is incorrect, then we would have to reject the law giver and side with the law. Imagine a law giver who offers the wrong law. It is absurd. So it is the law that is important, not the giver. The law must be judged for its own rightness or wrongness, and any god that does not side with it is no god, while a god that does side with it is redundant.

God is a personal concept for you. How do you prove that tomorrow the sun will come up again or that you wont die in a car crash next week? You cant prove it, you just have an inert belief that it probably wont happen.
Same exact thing with God, we cant prove that he exists. We just have an inert belief that there should be some kind of higher purpose in some shape or form and that it is good.

None of that is an argument that there's an absolute morality. Tell me how a morality completely independent of humans can exist from an atheist perspective

"False" hope becomes real hope. Technically, placebo should have no effect.
>waifus
Not really relevant, but waifus will be real within the next century if leftists don't start ww3.

Your morality is just as subjective

It's literally just god's opinion (man)

There is no law without a law giver. Law is something that is enforced, without an authority enforcing it there's no law. There's no law independent of a law giver

>god is not real because i don't agree with him
>i make up my own morality and it is absolute
>fuck god, i hate him

Total garbage. You're telling someone to let go of their loved ones, that there is nothing separating my child from another's. If they're just flesh and bone then they're no different to what hangs in the butcher shop window. Shame on you. I pity your family.

Also, my mug isn't just porcelain, it's the same porcelain that I've been using for a decade. To another it has no value but to me it's the most valuable porcelain in the world.

Sounds an awful lot like stoicism is telling you that nothing has value beyond its atoms and molecules, which is bullshit, communist thinking, and which is why stoicism and communism aren't major religions.

> Deny value of incentives for survival and reproduction
> Expect to be able to persist as a multi-generational ideology.

>We just have an inert belief that there should be some kind of higher purpose in some shape or form and that it is good
>mfw he describes my waifu again

your response actually shows one of the main reasons i found back to God: So called 'logical' and 'rational' people are not so at all. They make tons of mistakes all the time. They dont have any more answers about reality or what will happen than anybody else. It's all just edgy nitpicking and wordgames.
If you want to talk to an atheist, simply stay at this point: "You cant prove that God doesnt exist either".
He will respond with "But you cant prove that he DOES"
Yep, we both dont know. That's it, it should end the discussion. Dont let it get side tracked.
The next step that atheists usually take to attack faith is by attacking all the bad things religions do.
Do not fall into that trap, your faith in God is separate from any particular religion. You can believe in a God without obeying or following any church. The church doesnt control you, just like the tennis club doesnt control you.

By your standards*, which are garbage objectively and in my opinion.

This is my favorite thing about christcucks. They somehow think the odds 50/50 (or even somehow tipped in their favor) but fail to realize the irony of the spaghetti monster and santa claus.

Well if you'd like to think of it that way, it's subjective to an authority higher than humans and so humans cannot touch or change it, meaning it's not subjective to the humans obeying it

Britain has it best.

We have our own beliefs and we keep them private. We don't form cults like america.

>"False" hope becomes real hope. Technically, placebo should have no effect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't placebos interesting because they often have the same effect as the actual thing?

Say a doctor is administering weight loss pills and placebos in a double blind experiment, and everyone loses weight because they expect to. Isn't that the placebo effect?

The effect is real, yes, but does that make the placebo a weight loss pill?
ie, just because the idea of god has a good effect on people, does that make him real? Or any more real than Santa Claus is for well behaved children at Christmas?

>lel muh fairy tales ghost in the sky
Hell is forever. Can you conceptualize "forever," user?

Also, it's amusing seeing fedoras and LARPagans, but I repeat myself, call Christians cucks when they conquered the world and spread the truth to all peoples, and Christianity is still spreading.

If you can't evidence the existence of something then the logical thing to do is to treat it as not true until you are persuaded by evidence
Flat earth theory could potentially be true (since comprehensively proving anything is impossible) but we operate on the assumption that it isn't

yes, but God's opinion was envisioned by man with a high goal of being just and kind.
meanwhile atheists dont have these goals in mind as a group, they have whatever morals they feel are justified for today. i found that it is a measurably worse way to live, you constantly have to examine situations and make up your own moral stance about things. it is no way to live, if you want the Sup Forums view on it maybe this can help: atheistic morality is like multiculturalism. Every atheist has their own morality, it will never work to form a cohesive, working society. This is why religion always wins in the end, among many other things of course

It's the relevant options. Nothing in it says 50/50, except the size given to the options. For afterlife to be wrong, you'd have to be in the very fringe minority of mankind, civilization etc. That somehow reached this 'correct' stance.
How did you reach it?

There is sentience. There is pain. "Seek to reduce pain" is the obvious course of action someone would take if not concerned simply with their own particular sentience. On examination, one finds no logical reason to prefer one's own particular sentience to that of others. One would seek to reduce one's own pain. Therefore the universal law of reducing pain in general immediately follows.

There is no human law without a law giver.

one must question all orders, even those of a god

>implying anybody really believes in a sky daddy

People just pantomime a religious identity as a reflex reaction against homogeneity.

Das fine what you see as right and wrong can be different from mine we are only as we think we are when it comes to morals

You are correct. They also work as replacement drugs.

>atheists
>whites

Be sure to sperg out at the pearly gates when God tells you that you're wrong. I'm sure that will convince Him otherwise.

Tartarus is also forever but I don't see you praying to zeus
If you're going to try and tell me zeus isn't real then you have to tell me the objective difference between faith in zeus and faith in god

>There is sentience. There is pain. "Seek to reduce pain" is the obvious course of action someone would take if not concerned simply with their own particular sentience. On examination, one finds no logical reason to prefer one's own particular sentience to that of others. One would seek to reduce one's own pain. Therefore the universal law of reducing pain in general immediately follows.

This entire paragraph just described relative subjective morality. "We benefit by doing this, so it is good" is the definition of relative. An absolute morality is something that exists outside of humans, and would exist without humans thinking about it, which you cannot give an argument for as an atheist.

no, the logical thing is to do whatever works best for human life.
You are acting like a communist, "oh but theoretically if we all work together then productivity is maximised".
Theoretically yes, practically we live in human bodies and for human minds religion works best to produce healthy, productive, happy families and lives.
We should be cultivating a new form of religion that is aware of itself, *that* is a real goal to achieve. Not constantly make superficial arguments about religion as if it was some evil specter from the middle ages.

Well your morality has also fallen flat

It's literally just cowardice

A god that would condemn me for being a free-thinker is not a god worthy of worship, but rather some form of Assad-like dictator in the sky. Such a god is no god at all because one can imagine resisting such a god in mind if not in power. Truth, on the other hand, is something that one cannot imagine resisting. Therefore it is truth that is important, not god or gods - and the sense of "god" that is important is just as a synonym for truth.

>more religous shitskins born
>atheism is still rising in the west

nice bait thread. Atheism has no affiliation towards religion. Someone whom is conflict with religion is not atheist, they are an apologist and probably agnostic since they took the time to challenge you. A true atheist does not spend their time to waste worrying about things out of their control, instead we understand what we can with our tools.
Thats that. Turn the page.

Morality is unnecessary except when it comes to sentient beings and their suffering or joy, so that's as absolute as it gets. It's really not relative at all - there is nothing relative about pain.

Atheism of the christian kind is great. Actually, christianity is agnostic to the core in its belief that god is the only proper force. So all that spiritual bullshit becomes irrelevant. So, actually, i would say that it was the christian mindset that is useful for science. Before, if you did not believe it was because a demon, or a minor god, or a demigod, or fate told you so.

i think the goal of religion is to find THE Absolute, the ONE, instead of hundreds of spirits, and deities, and bullshit. It means that atheism was good, in a sense that a believer can now understand the difference between BELIEF and SUPERSTITION.

Now, Nietzche believed we will end up in a kind of christian buddhism - that trend was evident in literature with camus, sartre, prever, the whole 68 commies lit. Now, not so sure.