I've seen a lot of people here dream about closed borders, clearly defined nation states...

I've seen a lot of people here dream about closed borders, clearly defined nation states, putting your nations own interests above all, i.e. a return to Nationalism.

But how do you propose to implement nationalism without it leading to same catastrophies it lead to the first time around? Nations out for only their own interests, with only self serving alliances will eventually clash in war. Though Europe enjoyed it's longest peace in the period of the rising nationstates, these soon collapsed again only a few decades after their establishment in World War 1 aka the end of traditional nationalism.

Has nationalism therefore been proven to be a failure?

Humans are inherently tribalistic.

>Europe enjoyed it's longest peace
Not truly correct.
Wars was fought by proxy, mainly by USA and USSR since Evropa was so weakened, and you also have to consider the cold war.

And not fighting has lead us to degenerate beheaviours like the spread of faggots and liberal thinking.

If we know we are inherently tribalistic, are we still tribalistic though?

Isn't civilization overcoming our base nature?

No. It is its fullest expression.

>But how do you propose to implement nationalism without it leading to same catastrophies it lead to the first time around?

Western countries need to close their borders, control trade against and support their own interests against non-Western nations.

The West and most of the rest of the world is not equal. Free trade with the 3rd world destroys jobs in the West, only enriching the top few people. It does not when the free trade is between countries equal in social quality, like the US and Canada.

Open borders for the West just lets hundreds of thousands of inferior human trash to flood in, burdening the native population to support them while the Whites are replaced. Wrecking the common culture and character. It's is devastation. You used to be able to just cross from Canada into America without a passport. Before multiculturalism and Muslim crime you could do that.

There is no need for healthy, nationalistic European and Western countries, White nations to be antagonistic against each other. Unless you are dealing with globalist cucks that want to destroy your nation.

The Nationalism is necessary to protect the countries from the 3rd world, not each other.

If I know somebody wants to rape by wife, is it still a bad thing?

Wait, I forgot to check your flag.

I love how two of the most nationalistic countries in the map are ignored: Portugal and Switzerland.

>So you guys, you guys in your basements, presupposing that nationalism is actually its perfect opposite, imperialism, how are you going to deal with all the imperialism in nationalism?
Do you sometimes forget to breathe?

Nukes prevent much of it.

Or using it to our advantage.

Nigger have you seen the state of globalism and the lack of clearly defined nations and borders?
We're going to have an ethnic civil war in Europe as soon as the economy tanks.
Europeans aren't about to go to war with each other again, but they are in the near future going to start removing kebab.
We could have had a comfy brotherhood of nations after WW2, but no, we had to invite 60,000,0000 Muslims to the fucking party.

You don't get it, to be really tribalistic, you have to BELIEVE they truly are barbarous monsters and not think that you think they are, and the same goes for them.

Dismantle Germany and kill every German so they stop fucking up the world

>But how do you propose to implement nationalism without it leading to same catastrophies it lead to the first time around?
By not allowing German autism to ruin everything like it did the last time

You know, a thought struck me. That communism was the first attempt (Marx was related to the Rothschilds) by the elite to create a global, artificial culture.

They essentially believe that a worker from USA has more in common with a worker in China than he does with a middleclassman in USA. The communist sees nations and religion as a false culture, and believes that a class-based culture of the proletariat should be instituted. To do this, they first need to remove all national identity and all religious devotion and morals.

Also, they need to achieve global dominion for their theories to work in an unmodified form. If any group resists and is not subjugated, the in-group preferences of these members will eventually destroy the social fabric.

Communism was the first attempt at an artificial culture, but it was a failure. However, the same people that supported it as a means of globalizing peoples' moralities, may not be working towards a more modern iteration that is more suited towards the temperaments and attitudes of our times.

The core of any of these ideologies is the idea of victimhood. Being a victim motivates people, and being labelled a victimizer is demoralizing for the enemy. Feminism, LGBT, etc. Are all part of this new iteration of globalist culture

The great tragedy of all this is twofold:

1. With an ideology hinging around victimization, it drives them towards violent acts and fanaticism, and abject hatred and dehumanization towards enemies. Thus, the ideology is inherently violent and oppressive, both in theory and in practice.

2. That they view themselves as unifiers because they believe they are bringing people of the world together; when they are in fact the greatest dividers of our time. Not only are people divided according to national culture (which is their goal to eliminate, but can never be done because it is something inherent); but because of their actions, also classes are divided, men and women are divided, races are divided, and so on. The nations are becoming more and more disjointed by different groups believing that they deserve special status because of perceived victimization.

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Those thoughts become even worse when you realize Canada is one of the countries they actively test their theories in. Unless Canada finds some socially unifying culture soon they are going to be in for a rough time.

Poor Canada we used to bebrothers now your a cuck

They test all their theories in Germany, since Germany is a sham republic according to German General Gerd Helmut-Komossa. The USA has controlled German military, politics, finance, and education ever since the fall of the Third Reich, due to a hidden clause in the Federal German Republic's constitution that their politicians signed in 1949.