Can we have a conspiratorial discussion (without all the pro-trump fuckbois who don't actually have a reason to be so...

Can we have a conspiratorial discussion (without all the pro-trump fuckbois who don't actually have a reason to be so hard up on trumps dick going all apeshit? Nope, but still...
By now it's obvious as fuck that Trump was put into office by Russia.
Trump runs for president HUGELY unsuccessful in 2000. No one even remembers that he ran in the first place it was so bad.
Trumps son mention's in an interview in 2008 that "Russia makes up a disproportionately large crosssection of our assets"
It is then discovered that Trump SOHO estates where funded by BAYROCK, a Russian money laundering operation with ties to the Kremlin.
Meanwhile:
Hillary accuses the Russian elections of being entirely staged and rigged to elect Putin. Russia revolt and riot. Putin blames Hillary for the riots.
Ukraine gets fucked by Russia thanks to Paul Manafort.
Manafort flees to russia and is quiet.
US and NATO Allies place heavy sanctions on Russia due to the Chechen war and Ukrainian dealings, one of which prevents Trump from selling real estate to russians, shortly after Trump sells a 100+ milion dollar estate in Florida to a russian.
Trump runs for president.
News pops up from time to time (before any accusations have ever been made) about Trump and Russia.
Officials mention Russia might be interfereing. Trump says they're crazy, despite Russia being caught interfering in numerous elections and paying off many NATO allies.
The FBI gets involved and says that Trump has no connections to Russia.
Times receives Trumps tax records, discovers he has numerous dealings with Russia.
Paul Manafort shows up as Trumps Chairman. Redflag
IT is discovered that the DNC and Hillary where hacked. The FBI refuses to say it was Russia and frequently denies it while targeting Hillary.
Turns out it was Russia and now the FBI is in on this whole conspiracy.
Trump says during speech that he wants to withdraw the US from NATO and remove sanctions on Russia. After Putin has said he wants to dismantle Nato.

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slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_trump_server_evaluating_new_evidence_and_countertheories.html
snopes.com/trump-server-tied-to-russian-bank/
dailycaller.com/2016/07/25/dec-2011-hillary-clinton-angers-putin-demands-investigation-into-russian-electoral-fraud/
inquisitr.com/3225440/hillary-clinton-means-war-says-vladimir-putin-to-frightened-russian-people-american-militarism-has-a-female-face/
washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/19/paul-manaforts-complicated-ties-to-ukraine-explained/?utm_term=.cdd15a74f233
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Ukrainian_crisis
time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/
thesun.co.uk/news/2403411/putin-personally-directed-russian-us-election-hacking-as-part-of-a-campaign-against-hillary-clinton/
ibtimes.com/quotes-donald-trump-nato-what-republican-candidate-said-about-north-atlantic-treaty-2393661
thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/06/putin-issues-war-ultimatum-nato-must-stand-down-or-be-attacked/
theduran.com/confirmed-fbi-refuses-to-link-russia-to-dnc-podesta-leaks/
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-didnt-obama-do-more-about-russian-election-hack-n696701
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nato-russia-baltic-states-overrun-in-hours-rand-corporation-report-a7384381.html
politico.eu/article/german-security-chief-warns-of-russian-election-hacking/
observer.com/2016/05/natos-big-new-russian-spy-scandal/
reuters.com/article/us-nato-russia-idUSKBN1441ZC
eturbonews.com/5008/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma
politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/10/contrary-to-his-claims-there-is-evidence-that-trump-does-business-with-russians-229484
thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/302600-trump-i-have-nothing-to-do-with-russia
chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-russia-hacking-investigation-20161215-story.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/business/media-industry/nbcuniversal-ORCRP00000211329-topic.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/heads-of-state/vladimir-putin-PEPLT007593-topic.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/hillary-clinton-PEPLT007433-topic.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/paul-manafort-PEGPF00198-topic.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/viktor-yanukovych-PEPLT0008904-topic.html
chicagotribune.com/topic/business/rex-tillerson-PEBS00029-topic.html
youtube.com/watch?v=XYGxWGduCCQ
youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-intel-agencies-preparing-dossier-prove-russian-hacks-n694011
reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cyber-idUSKBN1441RS
theblaze.com/news/2016/12/14/report-us-intelligence-officials-say-vladimir-putin-was-directly-involved-with-russian-hacking/
bbc.com/news/world-europe-38288181
time.com/4600177/election-hack-russia-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/
time.com/4512771/how-russia-wants-undermine-us-election/?iid=sr-link1
dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national?txtlnkusaolp00000619
whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/09/press-briefing-principal-deputy-press-secretary-eric-schultz-12916
time.com/4597457/the-downside-of-donald-trumps-fight-with-the-intelligence-community/
crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/
researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2015/07/unit-42-technical-analysis-seaduke/
symantec.com/connect/blogs/forkmeiamfamous-seaduke-latest-weapon-duke-armory
fortune.com/fortune500/microsoft-25/
download.microsoft.com/download/4/4/C/44CDEF0E-7924-4787-A56A-16261691ACE3/Microsoft_Security_Intelligence_Report_Volume_19_A_Profile_Of_A_Persistent_Adversary_English.pdf
threatgeek.com/2016/06/dnc_update.html
nationalreview.com/corner/441266/hillary-clinton-democratic-emails-hacked-russia
dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic
dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

continued.

Hillary accuses Russia of interfereing. Putin responds saying he will go to war if she doesnt stop. US Citizens read this the wrong way.

Russia demonstrates its new nuke.

Trump still denying anything.

Trump wins.

All 17 intelligence agencies now saying russia was interfering and Putin is tied to the inference directly.

Trump finally acknowledges it but then tries to play it off by bait switching with "Well why didnt obama do more about it"

German officials, the closest and most powerful nato allies to the Russian targets discover Russian is attempting to interfere with their upcoming elections...

Recently discovered that russian is shifting enough troops to overrun NATO defenses in multiple places. Obama sends more troops in.

I didnt post any links, but this is all common place shit thats easy to google from reputable sources... there's so many redflags with this senario that I'd like to see what Trump supporters have to say about supporting a Traitor that sold the keys tot he US to Russia for a quick buck.

continued.

Russia has boosted right-wing populists across Europe. It loaned money to Marine Le Pen in France, well-documented transfusions of cash to keep her presidential campaign alive. Such largesse also wended its way to the former Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi, who profited “personally and handsomely” from Russian energy deals, as an American ambassador to Rome once put it. (Berlusconi also shared a 240-year-old bottle of Crimean wine with Putin and apparently makes ample use of a bed gifted to him by the Russian president.)

There’s a clear pattern: Putin runs stealth efforts on behalf of politicians who rail against the European Union and want to push away from NATO. He’s been a patron of Golden Dawn in Greece, Ataka in Bulgaria, and Jobbik in Hungary. Joe Biden warned about this effort last year in a speech at the Brookings Institution: “President Putin sees such political forces as useful tools to be manipulated, to create cracks in the European body politic which he can then exploit.” Ruptures that will likely multiply after Brexit—a campaign Russia’s many propaganda organs bombastically promoted.

One of the important facts about Trump is his lack of creditworthiness. After his 2004 bankruptcy and his long streak of lawsuits, the big banks decided he wasn’t worth the effort. They’d rather not touch the self-proclaimed “king of debt.” This sent him chasing less conventional sources of cash. BuzzFeed has shown, for instance, his efforts to woo Muammar Qaddafi as an investor. Libyan money never did materialize. It was Russian capital that fueled many of his signature projects—that helped him preserve his image as a great builder as he recovered from bankruptcy.

The money didn’t come directly. Hunting for partners with cash, he turned to a small upstart called the Bayrock Group, which would pull together massive real estate deals using the Trump name. Its chairman was a former Soviet official named Tevfik Arif, who made a small fortune running luxe hotels in Turkey. To run Bayrock’s operation, Arif hired Felix Satter, a Soviet-born, Brighton Beach–bred college dropout. Satter changed his name to Sater, likely to distance himself from the criminal activity that a name-check would easily turn up. As a young man, Sater served time for slashing a man’s face with a broken margarita glass in a barroom brawl. The Feds also busted him for a working in a stock brokerage tied to four different Mafia families, which made $40 million off fraudulent trades. One lawsuit would later describe “Satter’s proven history of using mob-like tactics to achieve his goals.” Another would note that he threatened a Trump investor with the prospect of the electrocution of his testicles, the amputation of his leg, and his corpse residing in the trunk of Sater’s car.

Let’s begin at the top. Trump’s campaign manager is a wizened operative named Paul Manafort. It’s true that Manafort is a mercenary by trade. His old Washington consulting firm pioneered the practice of representing the dictators of the world, no matter their grim record. (I profiled his authoritarian ambit earlier this year.) Late in his career, however, Manafort dedicated himself to working on behalf of clients close to the Kremlin. His grand achievement was reviving the doomed career of the anti-charismatic politician Viktor Yanukovych. Manafort’s image-crafting and shrewd strategy culminated in Yanukovych’s election to Ukraine’s presidency in 2010. Thanks to Manafort’s handiwork, Ukraine pulled into Putin’s sphere of influence. Unlike other American consultants who flitted in and out of Kiev, Manafort set up camp there. He became an essential adviser to the president—his tennis partner even.

f Manafort were the only Kremlin connection in the Trump campaign, his presence might signify nothing. But he’s hardly isolated. Many pundits have scoffed at the idea that Trump has a circle of foreign policy advisers given that his initial list of gurus emerged abruptly in March and included names unknown to most experts. Yet the list suggests certain tendencies. One of the supposed Trump whisperers was an investment banker named Carter Page. During a stint in Moscow in the 2000s, he advised the state-controlled natural gas giant, Gazprom and helped it attract Western investors. (In March, Page told Bloomberg that he continues to own shares in the company.) Page has defended Russia with relish. He wrote a column explicitly comparing the Obama administration’s Russia policy to chattel slavery in the American South. His reasoning: “Numerous quotes from the February 2015 National Security Strategy closely parallel an 1850 publication that offered guidance to slaveholders on how to produce the ‘ideal slave.’ ”

Also on the list of advisers is Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Eighteen months after he departed government, he journeyed to Moscow and sat two chairs away from Putin at the 10th anniversary gala celebrating Russia Today. In Politico, an anonymous Obama official harshly criticized Flynn: “It’s not usually to America’s benefit when our intelligence officers—current or former—seek refuge in Moscow.”

More recently, Richard Burt, a Reagan administration official, has begun advising Trump on foreign policy. His criticisms of NATO and pleas for greater cooperation with Putin grow from a deeply felt realism. Yet his ideological positions jibe with his financial interests. Burt is on the boards of Alfa-Bank, the largest commercial bank in Russia, and an investment fund with a large position in Gazprom.

Trump’s advisers have stakes in businesses where the health of the Russian state is the health of the firm—where, in fact, the state and the firm are deeply entangled. The campaign isn’t just one man with an aesthetic affinity for Putin and commercial interests in Russia; his sentiments are reinforced and amplified by an organization rife with financial ties to the Kremlin.

This is a good and interesting thread that will sadly get very little traffic or discussion because Sup Forums has pretty much run off all the rational people at this point. If anyone does comment they'll probably call you a concern troll or something else. Sup Forums belongs to the pro-trump fuckbois now.

And then there was the Trump server that was communicating directly witha bank in russia...

slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_trump_server_evaluating_new_evidence_and_countertheories.html

I'm just gonna say it, it's very simple, no need to dig deeper.
Two words
Useful
Idiot

Hillary Clinton had Seth Rich MURDERED because he was the true source of the leaked emails and documents.

She and her co-conspirators in the msm and the democratic party are blaming Russia to cover their tracks.

They are engaged in treason and are trying to subvert the will of the American people.

They need to be punished for their crimes and stopped at all costs.

Complete conjecture
snopes.com/trump-server-tied-to-russian-bank/

Wow, even SNOPES rejects your bullshit. That's when you know it's time to stop huffing the glue...

Can someone please explain to me how having a pro-Russia President is a bad thing? Is the belief that Russia will start conquering again? They didnu nuffin since the collapse of the USSR yet the West has consistently shit on them.

> no sources

> why doesn't people reply to huge wall of texts with no substance?

> slate

Now you guys can fuck off.

We've had some random illegal immigrant nigger running this country for 8 years and I'm suppose to give a shit about Russia? I don't think so, CIA...sorry. I wouldn't even care if Russia took over. Bye-bye faggots! Bye-bye

One of Trumps advisers is a chairman on the same board of the Alfa Bank that the server was communicating with.

>ukraine

no such thing

...

>there is STILL literally not one shred of evidence for any of this
Not one little shred....

Smells like
F A K E N E W S
to me m8.

fake news

>le fake news is truth this is not debatable fuckbois XDDDD

No evidence to your claims, and regardless the truth is still the truth even if Russia hacked it

Go fuck yourself

...

This.
The whole thing has been shit since Regan and not what they cant stop the exposure, they will try to make it implode.
There are the last days of the American empire. We are Rome now and Hillary would have been Caligula.

this is the best thing about the whole "zomg the russians hacked the electionz" shitshow
they're not making any attempt to deny that the information is, in fact, 100% true
they're just whining and complaining about HOW the information was released

>posting the shitty version

This information that makes us look bad sure, but what if told you an even more evil person released it?! I mean it's not true but what if?!

>>r/stillwithher

>By now it's obvious as fuck that Trump was put into office by Russia.

I stopped reading exactly here.

Hillary on Russian elections.
dailycaller.com/2016/07/25/dec-2011-hillary-clinton-angers-putin-demands-investigation-into-russian-electoral-fraud/


Putin on going to war over hillary
inquisitr.com/3225440/hillary-clinton-means-war-says-vladimir-putin-to-frightened-russian-people-american-militarism-has-a-female-face/

Paul Manafort
washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/19/paul-manaforts-complicated-ties-to-ukraine-explained/?utm_term=.cdd15a74f233

The sanctions placed after Russias Ukrainian dealings
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Ukrainian_crisis

Some Times shit
time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/

All 17 us agencies confirm it was russia
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

Putin found to be directly tied.
thesun.co.uk/news/2403411/putin-personally-directed-russian-us-election-hacking-as-part-of-a-campaign-against-hillary-clinton/

Trumps quotes on NATO
ibtimes.com/quotes-donald-trump-nato-what-republican-candidate-said-about-north-atlantic-treaty-2393661

Putin on NATO
thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/10/06/putin-issues-war-ultimatum-nato-must-stand-down-or-be-attacked/

FBI refuses to co-author on russia after saying they wherent involved, finding out they where.
theduran.com/confirmed-fbi-refuses-to-link-russia-to-dnc-podesta-leaks/

trump acknowledging it and baitswitching
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-didnt-obama-do-more-about-russian-election-hack-n696701

russia primed to overrun baltic states
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nato-russia-baltic-states-overrun-in-hours-rand-corporation-report-a7384381.html

German officials warn of russian interference in favor of Anti-nato candidates
politico.eu/article/german-security-chief-warns-of-russian-election-hacking/

I think the real question is why should I care? Russia is the most pro-white, anti-degeneracy nation on earth.

>all sources spent the past 9 months spouting bullshit against trump
>all sources are leftist shitposts
>all sources use the 2 week rule to retract false information frequently
>muh valid sources
>kys pl0x

Russian spy discovered in NAto intelligence
observer.com/2016/05/natos-big-new-russian-spy-scandal/

Nato Meeting with russia
reuters.com/article/us-nato-russia-idUSKBN1441ZC

Trumps son talking about massive ties to russia in 2008
eturbonews.com/5008/executive-talk-donald-trump-jr-bullish-russia-and-few-emerging-ma

Trumps dealings with Russia
politico.com/blogs/2016-presidential-debate-fact-check/2016/10/contrary-to-his-claims-there-is-evidence-that-trump-does-business-with-russians-229484

Trump saying he has nothing to do with russia despite the growing mountain of connections.
thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/302600-trump-i-have-nothing-to-do-with-russia

A better written opinion piece voicing many of these concerns.

chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-donald-trump-russia-hacking-investigation-20161215-story.html

e Trump-Russia scandal continues to widen, with revelations that are making it increasingly clear that not only do we need a full investigation, but that investigation needs to be independent and bipartisan, and include public hearings. Some Republicans, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, have suggested that the Senate Intelligence Committee can handle it.

But let's make no mistake: that's a way of sweeping it under the rug. The Intelligence Committee's hearings are closed to the public and press, and while there will certainly need to be parts of this investigation that are kept behind closed doors lest "sources and methods" be compromised, we need to learn as much as possible about this scandal. A dusty, redacted report released a year from now will not be enough.

If this keeps going in the direction it's headed, this could stand alongside Watergate and Iran-Contra as one of the most important scandals in modern American history. It's increasingly looking like a hostile foreign power run by a murderous thug tried to swing an American election, and may have succeeded — at least, in helping to tip it.

ctrl+f "russia" - 72 matches
You are obsessed, burgers

The latest revelation comes from William Arkin, Ken Dilanian and Cynthia McFadden of NBC News:

"U.S. intelligence officials now believe with 'a high level of confidence' that Russian President Vladimir Putin became personally involved in the covert Russian campaign to interfere in the U.S. presidential election, senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

"Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

"Putin's objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a 'vendetta' against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to 'split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn't depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore,' the official said."

chicagotribune.com/topic/business/media-industry/nbcuniversal-ORCRP00000211329-topic.html

chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/heads-of-state/vladimir-putin-PEPLT007593-topic.html

"Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.

"Putin's objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a 'vendetta' against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to 'split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn't depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore,' the official said."

Now we should caution that it's possible these reports are mistaken. The sources are anonymous, and the information could be erroneous. But that makes it even more important that we learn everything we can about what exactly happened and what Putin's involvement was.

chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/hillary-clinton-PEPLT007433-topic.html

...

There's also a report by Eric Lipton and Scott Shane in The New York Times about how Russian hackers targeted Democratic candidates for the House of Representatives, penetrating their systems, finding documents describing their campaign strategies or other damaging information, and then released that information with the help of anonymous local American bloggers. That information was then used against them by these candidates' opponents, and by groups like a super PAC tied to House Speaker Paul Ryan. The candidates in question were well-chosen to include those in key swing districts. How did Russian hackers know who to target? Who were the American bloggers working with them? Those are only a couple of the questions that this report raises.

And this is critical to understand: There is reason for serious skepticism about whether the Republican Congress can be trusted to investigate this scandal. Their response to Donald Trump's copious and appalling financial conflicts of interest has essentially been, "eh, no biggie." That response is part of a broader pattern in which Republicans are effectively looking the other way while Trump assaults our norms and democracy, and given that, there's no reason to assume Republicans will investigate the allegations of Russian interference with the seriousness they deserve.

For the sake of completeness, here's a list of all the different strands that connect Donald Trump to Russia and the Kremlin. Some of these are relatively benign and others less so, some of them relate to the hacking scandal and some don't, but it's helpful to see them all together:

- Hackers connected to the Russian government penetrated the systems of the Democratic National Committee and the email of Hillary Clinton's campaign chair John Podesta, then passed what they found to Wikileaks, which released it over an extended period of time in order to maximize the political damage to Clinton. The American intelligence committee has concluded that this was done for the purpose of helping Donald Trump get elected.

- As of now it is unknown whether Russian hackers also penetrated the systems of the Republican Party or Republican officials, or what they might have found and are now holding if they did.

- We now have reports that Vladimir Putin was personally involved in directing the hacking.

- Russian hackers, with the cooperation of at least some Americans, obtained private information on Democratic House candidates and released it in order to damage them.

- Roger Stone, a longtime friend and adviser to Trump, admitted in October that he had "back-channel communications" with Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks, about the release of the hacked emails.

- Again and again, Trump has offered public praise for Vladimir Putin's leadership, his strength, and his popularity. "I will tell you that I think in terms of leadership, he's getting an A," Trump said.

- Trump has also defended Putin against charges that the Russian president has had his political enemies and critical journalists murdered, something that has been extensively documented. "It's never been proven that he's killed anybody," Trump claimed last December. "So, you know, you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, at least in our country. He has not been proven that he's killed reporters."

- On one occasion Trump read to a rally a distorted version of a hacked John Podesta email which he apparently got from Sputnik News, a site created by the Russian government to disseminate propaganda.

- At the same time, Trump was denying that Russia had anything to do with the hacking and even denying that any hacking had taken place. "I notice, anytime anything wrong happens," he said during one of his debates with Clinton, "they like to say the Russians are — she doesn't know if it's the Russians doing the hacking. Maybe there is no hacking."

- Paul Manafort, who served as Trump's campaign manager, acted as an adviser to former Ukrainian prime minister and Putin ally Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Moscow in 2014 when Ukrainians revolted against his rule. After it was revealed that "Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych's pro-Russian political party," Manafort left the campaign but continued to advise Trump informally.

--Michael Flynn, Trump's pick for national security adviser, has made a paid speech to Russia Today, a Russian state media outlet, and sat next to Putin at a dinner celebrating RT's anniversary. Flynn claims that RT — which exists in order to promote Putin and his government — is no different from CNN or MSNBC.

Paul Manafort
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/paul-manafort-PEGPF00198-topic.html

Victor Yanukovych
chicagotribune.com/topic/politics-government/government/viktor-yanukovych-PEPLT0008904-topic.html

--Michael Flynn, Trump's pick for national security adviser, has made a paid speech to Russia Today, a Russian state media outlet, and sat next to Putin at a dinner celebrating RT's anniversary. Flynn claims that RT — which exists in order to promote Putin and his government — is no different from CNN or MSNBC.

- In March, Trump cited Carter Page as one of his principal foreign policy advisers. Page is a controversial figure with shadowy connections in Russia; the Trump campaign later insisted it had nothing to do with him.

- While much of Trump's finances are opaque because of his refusal to release his tax returns, we know that he has long sought business opportunities in Russia. "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," Donald Trump, Jr. said at a real estate conference in 2008. "We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

- In July, Trump invited Russia to hack into Hillary Clinton's email. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," he said.

Trump's cabinet will have more money in the bank than everyone else in America combined

"drain the swamp" fucking LOL kill yourselves

>being this willfully retarded
>still role playing Pizzagate when nobody gives a shit anymore

More leftist sources, more fake news

These places all proved themselves untrustworthy already

Do you honestly think Putin wouldn't take Finland back if there was no threat of American retaliation?

- Trump's pick for Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, has extensive dealings with the Russian government in his role as CEO of ExxonMobil. The Russian government gave Tillerson its Order of Friendship award in 2013, and Tillerson has been critical of sanctions on Russia.

- Trump has suggested that if Russia attacked a NATO country, he would not automatically come to that country's defense, but would consider whether he felt they were contributing enough to the alliance.

To repeat, some of these items have nothing to do with the scandal and some are defensible. But they all relate to how the next administration is going to deal with Russia. What's important now is that we get an independent, unconstrained, public investigation, so Americans can know exactly what happened in 2016. Anything less will be a betrayal of the public trust.

chicagotribune.com/topic/business/rex-tillerson-PEBS00029-topic.html

GG You trump fuckboi's are just got fucked in the ass by a traitor.

Prove they're fake. Dont just use that bullshit dumbfuck "right-wing" logic of saying just because someone on the otherside said it, means its false."

fucking prove it or shove a cock down your ignorant throat and choke to death, faggot.

CEO of ExxonMobil, a gas company has extensive dealings with a gas supplier? OMG THE FUCKIN RUSSIANS

Are you this fucking retarded or just trolling? I hope for your sake its the latter

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out

Is anyone saving this high quality bait?

All of these sources heavily skew towards the left.
OP, having chosen the losing side & incapable of arguing his point,
is instead focusing on personal attacks against Trump.
Typical.

Prove they're real, faggot. The burden of proof is on you.

The Podesta emails showed the mainstream media is compromised.

Sorry, nobody is buying your fearmongering here.

It's funny how right-wing people get confronted with a list of facts all from reputable and proven sources, refuse to any homework or research, or even read the fucking things, cant provide a single piece of counter evidence, and just claim "The leftist said it, therefore its wrong. I win."

Like, it's kinda sad:

youtube.com/watch?v=XYGxWGduCCQ

I gave you 900 links, you have responded to a single one, instead you said "You're a leftist, therefore you're wrong."

So uh, get back to me with them refutes, faggot.

youtube.com/watch?v=XYGxWGduCCQ

I still don't see proof man, I see feelings mixed with vague degrees of separation and conjecture.

Also, thats pretty rich considering obama isn't even real.

Wimp Lo is the Rightwing spirit animal in this thread...

youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY

Spamming a bunch of links isn't an argument. There is no hard evidence for any of the assertions I saw reading quickly through the thread, a few straight out lies. Boring.

Lmao, the right-wing people in this thread:

"I see you've listed a wall of links all tieing back to provable sources and that you've done some homework and brought substantial evidence to the table. Well, you're a faggot, therefore, I win."

beat me to it

Still waiting for someone to disprove ANY of this instead of saying it's leftist and fake without any evidence that its fake or doing anything to even remotely back their case up besides shoving their fingers in their ears and screaming like a child.

Yeah boi, who the fuck is going to read all of that?

I'm only interested in the connection with trump and the Russian hackers that everyone seems to think exists. Can you provide a link to that?

Maybe actually read the links, cumstain.

You're right user. Everything you posted is 100% correct and verified by indisputable proofs.

Go back to /r/eddit and tell your comrades that you convinced all of Sup Forums to abandon right wing views and embrace social justice, cuckoldry, and esoteric jahanism.

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-intel-agencies-preparing-dossier-prove-russian-hacks-n694011

reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cyber-idUSKBN1441RS

theblaze.com/news/2016/12/14/report-us-intelligence-officials-say-vladimir-putin-was-directly-involved-with-russian-hacking/

Nah. I'm glad you wasted your time compiling a list of them to shill so I effectively though.

>Russians stole the election!
>....By exposing the fact that the democratic part is corrupt all the way to the top
Huh ryl make u go "hmmm"

rekt

>believing an illegitimate claim by an illegitimate government agency led by an illegitimate non-American president

The sad thing is that IT WORKS; why do you think the left-wing equivalent (SJWs) got so powerful?

that's not the point. that too is a problem, youre right. but just becuase thats a problem doesnt mean you should just ignore that Trump, who is obviously equally corrupt is now in office and about to let Russia do whatever they want.

fix your logic.Dont turn a blind eye to corruption just because someone else is corrupt...

*ineffectively

Literally no proof, just conjecture.

Give me a second to read them you cunt.

Wait, 17 intelligence agencies, many military, including foreign top officials are ALL illegitimate?

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

bbc.com/news/world-europe-38288181

Go away FSB

Oh right, all 17 intelligence agencies confirm it, every US official confirms it, its blatantly obvious and no the EU is confirming it, but you know... just conjecture.

"We've assembled a dossier with evidence"

YOUR DOSSIER IS CONJECTURE

Dat evidence though

time.com/4600177/election-hack-russia-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

time.com/4512771/how-russia-wants-undermine-us-election/?iid=sr-link1

dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national?txtlnkusaolp00000619

whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/12/09/press-briefing-principal-deputy-press-secretary-eric-schultz-12916

time.com/4597457/the-downside-of-donald-trumps-fight-with-the-intelligence-community/

crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/

researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2015/07/unit-42-technical-analysis-seaduke/

symantec.com/connect/blogs/forkmeiamfamous-seaduke-latest-weapon-duke-armory

fortune.com/fortune500/microsoft-25/

download.microsoft.com/download/4/4/C/44CDEF0E-7924-4787-A56A-16261691ACE3/Microsoft_Security_Intelligence_Report_Volume_19_A_Profile_Of_A_Persistent_Adversary_English.pdf

threatgeek.com/2016/06/dnc_update.html

>led by an illegitimate non-American president
Pretty much destroys the current government legitimacy and integrity. Everything that has any trace of Obama is legally null and void. You forget he's the commander in chief

Not even a Drumpkins

Yeah man, Look at the language the only person that says without a doubt, 'he did it' is Hillary.

Everything else is, can be connected, it wouldn't happen if he didn't know about it. Nothing solid. Conjecture.


No proof.

If by "let them do whatever you want" you mean "stop funding literal terrorists to fight the Russian-backed Assad regime", then I'm totally cool with that.

Stop spreading lies, please.

>What Clinton said was false and misleading. First of all, only two intelligence entities – the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) – have weighed in on this issue, not 17 intelligence agencies. And what they said was ambiguous about Russian involvement. An unclassified October 7, 2016 joint DNI-DHS statement on this issue said the hacks...Saying we think the hacks “are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts” is far short of saying we have evidence that Russia has been responsible for the hacks. Maybe high-level officials would have authorized them if Russian hackers were responsible, but the DNI and DHS statement did NOT say there was evidence Russia was responsible.

nationalreview.com/corner/441266/hillary-clinton-democratic-emails-hacked-russia

That moment when Homeland security is just conjecture.

dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national?txtlnkusaolp00000619

Still this asspained over the result HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA lefty scum btfo :^)

Orly?

But Clinton is correct. On Oct. 7, the Department of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence issued a joint statement on behalf of the U.S. Intelligence Community. The USIC is made up of 16 agencies, in addition to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

dni.gov/index.php/intelligence-community/members-of-the-ic

dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

Actually I'm not a leftist or "butthurt"

Just wondering why the fuck you idiots are so supportive of a traitor and oblivious to what russia is doing.

Try reading what I posted again instead of spamming links you haven't even read. There is direct text from their report in the link too.

Those 16 agencies (i thought it was 17) are all part of one department. And none of them have proof.

So you're aware that nobody is clean in this election right?

So what's with the hate boner for trump? Clinton has done a lot worse than make money.

Fuck off, you anti-Trump vermin are butthurt or retarded or salty or all of the above lol

Shills have really shifted into overdrive after Aleppo and as Monday creeps closer. They're desperate.

Babbys first Sup Forums thread.

I did. Your entire article neglected to mention the USIC is comprised of 16 seperate entities... not to mention the fucking Department of Homeland Security AND the CIA plus more in recent days have stepped forward.

Because no one wants a bunch of muslims waiting to explode or mexicans waiting to slice your face of in their country.

Clinton has been covered and she doesnt have any power. Youre right. she's corrupt as fuck but I think its a little more important to focus on the guy handing the keys to the US to russia than the woman who just stepped down from her positions of power...

fix your logic. Just because Trump isnt hillary doesnt mean we shouldnt focus on him...

It's been getting a little over the top with illustrating Russia as the villain, making those claims less credible, especially when there's other nations in Asia that have relatively worse issues.

What does Russia gain from "hacking the U.S. elections" in favor of Trump ? Prevention of war ? Peace ? In this case it seems that if the Russians made an effort in publishing and releasing hacked emails, revealing higher level corruption in the United States, people are prevented from electing an incredibly criminal, elitist, and corrupt politician, that likely would of started conflict on a grander scale.

If anything the true traitors are ones that willingly turn a blind eye to the allegations of the other side.

I do not doubt Russia had some sort of influence on these elections, Trump has his connections, etc. - what's really more important people should consider is why this is.

You're probably to young to even remember who Snacks is. Step down, boy.

Did not read jack shit about russia trying to dismantle NATO by rigging multiple elections in mutliple countries in order to lift sanctions and to continue waging war against the baltic states, IE Ukraine and the Chechen war?

>tells others to fix ur logic
>doesn't treat candidates the equally
kpro