Redpill me on Assad, Aleppo, The Rebels, and generally what the hell is going on over there. Since I literally know nothing about these things besides the fact Aleppo constantly gets striked and Civilians (who are mostly Women and Children with a noticeable lack of Men) die.
Redpill me on Assad, Aleppo, The Rebels, and generally what the hell is going on over there...
Michael Taylor
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Charles Young
Yes please, i was born syrian but i was raised in UAE.
I want to know why everyone hates assad and why Sup Forums likes assad.
Cameron Baker
>Islamists tried to overthrow modern secular goverment with support of west
>russia steps in to support government
>aleppo largest city in syria, fell to rebels
>russia and syria try regain aleppo, west cries
>Russia and syria liberate all of aleppo, west cries harder
there is a lot more to it than that obviously but that's the general gist of it
David Evans
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Austin Robinson
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Jacob Sanchez
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Joshua Barnes
>media (jews) hate assad for being a nuisance
>Sup Forums likes assad for killing extremist kebabs
Blake Phillips
Assad is based because he kills muslims and being bro with Putin(pbuh) but I don't have an idea about religion, society and politics in the middle east anyway due to my ignorance towards the people I summarize as shitskins so I buy anything what Sup Forums tells me :DDD
Leo Perez
My syrian mother claimed that Assad is the one who allowed terrorists in Syria and that he is the one behind Syria war.
I don't believe her tho, so i need sources but she refuses to provide one.
Gavin Moore
This board is infested with leftist faggots who worship Russia, Iran, and socialist dictators.
They're just going to tell you Assad was a good boy and didn't do nuffin.
Don't waste your braincells.
Isaiah Cook
Assad, supported by Putin, leads a strong military Regime, a dictatorship if you will. This is common in the arab world, starting with Nasser in Egypt after WW2.
People have wanted freedom from this dictatorial oppression in more recent times, notably the arab spring.
Rebels fight against the government, many civilians support the rebels while some support the government.
USA supports a lot of rebels with weapons. Problem with rebels are that they not only seek democracy but also religion
Jaxson Rivera
if you want to know what society, politics and the religion look like in the middle east without its assads, just knock them off and take a good look at the decades-long clusterfuck you get. i'm sure you think it was cool that nearly half a million people had to die already for this grand experiment in >moderate >secular >democracy in the middle east. this is why one-party states are a vital piece of transitional machinery in second-world style nations, because the alternative is truly somalian.
Tyler Harris
>assad allowed terrorists in syria
the majority of opposition fighters in syria are not syrian. estimates say 300,000 people have entered syria illegally to fight against government
his father brutally squashed the muslim brotherhood uprising decades ago, bashar is doing the same thing
your mother refuses to provide sources because she has seen none and is just going off what people have told her
Hunter Murphy
She's talking about the previous decade.
Assad knowingly harbored insurgents who were killing Americans in Iraq.
Connor Anderson
Well, yeah, but she claimed she gets her sources from Al Jazeera and her facebook friends.
Her grandmother lives in Syria.
Alexander Lewis
you mean the shia militias? I wouldn't consider them terrorists since they usually target soldiers
>inb4 muslim = terrorist
yeah i know but they aren't quite as bad as the sunni terrorists
Jose Gonzalez
what's aleppo?
Andrew Campbell
fuck you GI jap. you're just upsetti you have to sit on a military base while russians get to remove kebab
stay salty
Bentley Clark
No I mean sunnis just over the border in the eastern areas
Al Qaeda had a presence in syria long before the democratic uprising, and Assad tolerated it
What's more, he has played Isis to his advantage throughout the revolution, knowing it would prop up his regime as the only "legitimate" alternative
Jeremiah Gomez
His father gassed a shitload of kurds and the media thinks that he will follow in his father's footsteps. In reality, he's just a guy who loves his country.
Jacob Nguyen
>al jazeera
propaganda run by sunni arabs, they want Assad (alawite loyal to Iran) gone
The important thing to know is that the most powerful fighting groups in syria after the SAA are Al-Qaeda and ISIS. if Assad goes then eventually you will have one of these groups sitting in damascus
William Reyes
The "rebels" are literally Al Qaeda.
Last week they were shooting every civilian who tried to flee the "freed zones". Didn't hear much about it the whiny media, though.
Carson Hall
No, during the war in Iraq Syria allowed Al-Qaeda to operate from Syria. Similarly he allowed the PKK to operate from Syria.
Caleb Martin
>click catalog
>click search
>type in /sg/
>go to that thread
That fucking simple to know all there is to know about the Syrian situation.
Dylan Butler
Israel bombing lebanese civilians en-masse = good
Russia bombing Syrian civilians en-masse = bad
Noah Evans
/sg/ is a fucking echo chamber
Jonathan Mitchell
And to put it succinctly, the reason why the media is so anti Assad is that Assad is anti-Israeli and Israel would profit from a destabilized Syria. Israel's foreign policy goals have been to destroy the secular regimes of the middle east in order to create anarchy and allow for their expansionist policies.
Leo Kelly
Would you folks be okay with linking evidence to what you're saying? I'm not trying to be rude, I would just like to know for sure what you're saying is true and all.
Jeremiah Fisher
>democratic uprising
shooting at police is not a democratic uprising
>Assad allowed al-qaeda into his country
no he didn't, he is one man, not everything is within his control. he supported hezbollah
>used isis as an advantage
if you mean crushing isis in places like palmyra in order to look good on the international stage, then yes he did
the fact remains, he is the only legitimate alternative. unlesss you prefer isis?
Gavin Thompson
>not reading the sticky links
Jackson Nelson
source? first i have heard of it
Jose Taylor
is there any fact in particular you would like a source for?
Easton Ortiz
I'd like a Source for the Al -Qaeda And ISIS Groups being involved with Aleppo.
Justin Harris
Just the same old sand negros killing sand negros story
Hillary wants to fight putin to stop him from killing sand negros
Trump wants to join Putin to help him kill sand negros
America should just stay the fuck out desu, let them wipe each other out
Jaxon Reyes
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Zachary Martinez
It's a proxy war, and Putin has absolutely REKT Obama. It's not a coincidence that the """moderate rebels""" are leaving Aleppo just over a month after Trump was confirmed to be the next president. Obama has stopped funding his Islamic extremist buddies on the ground because he knows Trump will cease all funding anyway.
It's been a disastrous final year for Obama. Putin has stumped him and sees Syria as the first step to returning Russia's sphere of influence and economy to what it was back as the Soviet Union. Russia now have major allies in the region in Iran and Syria (under Assad).
Connor Peterson
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Leo Morales
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Luke Roberts
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Nolan Ortiz
>"""""moderate""""" rebels
Leo Price
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Connor James
It's literally on wikipedia...
Ian Sanchez
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Sebastian Bailey
>America should just stay the fuck out desu
*should have
now the blame is on burgers
Ayden Lopez
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Brayden Harris
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Isaac Ross
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Anthony Moore
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Kevin Martin
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Brandon Lewis
We are conquering a fairly peaceful nation through foreign proxy armies like ISIS and other islamist extremist groups in Syria. We are funding the problem and helping the bad guys for israel.
We are also causing the rapefugee crisis while ignoring that we are also it's funding cause.
Caleb Watson
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Jeremiah Morales
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Andrew Baker
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William Morris
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Nathan Foster
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James Howard
Assad is a secular dictator who respected both minorities and the Sunni majority. The "rebels" are radical Sunni Muslims who will genocide said minorities if they win.
But Assad is backed by Russia and Iran, so the West hates him.
Julian Gomez
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Chase Scott
Was there any acknowledgement or statement from any Western side about the kid having it's head cut off?
I'm reading german News (ZEIT, it's not Boulevard, but still pretty shitty), and I completely miss any critical evaluation of the rebels who we support.
I want to be on our side if we're right, but this sort of one-dimensional Reporting just drives me away. Not necessarily into the arms of Putin, Trump, etc. But wheres authentic commentary? Does something like that exist? Should I try and switch to Reuters or something?
I don't know anymore...
Aaron Morris
>"""""moderates"""""
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Adam Collins
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Landon Taylor
>""""""""moderates"""""""""
Jayden Thomas
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Eli Price
Is it bad that trust Sup Forums more than just about any other news/information source regarding topics like this?
Sebastian Turner
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Luke Anderson
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Jace Morales
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Levi Watson
Ah, thank you for all this Information you've been posting! And, Sorry for being an Idiot about this, I just don't really trust Wikipedia to be 100% transparent and honest with things. Even if it is there, I feel I won't get proper true information.
Daniel Jones
assad wants to control syria and be putin bitch
kurds want their own goverment and land and be obamas bitch, but theyre losing because obama cant into war
Hunter Lee
That's literally what's written on the flag of Arabia dumbass
It's like calling Sweden's cross evidence of Christian extremism
squiggly lines = TERRORISTS omg!
Ayden Murphy
they arent white so who cares
John Thomas
you clearly dont know what you were talking about
you were probably still in primary school in 2006
Assad absolutely tolerated an Al Qaeda presence in his country during the nadir of the Iraq War. It's not disputed
and he has only confronted ISIS when the matter has proven itself absolutely necessary. He's more than okay with letting them chill in the desert otherwise
Palmyra was undertaken at a time when the SAA couldn't defeat jack shit. It was a morale booster
Jonathan Gray
What happens to the neet snake?
Jacob Nguyen
Why?
Making an example, or for some other reason?
Easton Rivera
If assad is so good why did he do that chemical attack a few years back?
Asher Scott
Things like the Presidential Election Estimates were one of the things that truly exposed me and a lot of other people to how the media does and very much WILL lie. You're not wrong for trusting this place. There's no censorship, which reduces lies. Also, I would appreciate it if you linked proof to this being the case, instead of just saying it like it IS the case.
Aiden Jackson
subtle
Leo Green
it's not a child. It was an adult fighter with a development disorder. He was captured on the battlefield and executed for his deeds
Jeremiah Gutierrez
Saudi + Quatar (homeland of extremist Wahabi and Salafi branch of Islam) started their crusade against all Shia muslims in Syria. End goal is to reunite Ummah. All Shiite countries (Yemen, Lebanon, Iran) fought back. Russia is backing one side. US is backing another side. Quite clear.
No islands. No soverignity. No one will let your kind out of your islands.
Wyatt Foster
>adult fighter with a development disorder
Ryan Robinson
All major news networks completely ignored it.
Noah Kelly
this.
stormniggers who think they're red pilled just assume everything the mainstream media, normies and the government says is wrong and so they just believe the opposite
Anyone who intentionally causes innocent people to be killed is evil
Andrew Hughes
Syrians are amazing. Their children look like adults and their adults look like children.
Andrew Richardson
Okay, now an updated version?
Camden Foster
out of all the options Assad is the best answer because
>Sunni/Shia, Saudi Arabia/Iran balance would not shift
>Turkey would not have as much coontrol over that region
>it would not be Islamic (if Assad falls then Jordania falls too and there goes Secularism in the Middle East)
>it would still be a dictator but so would all of them so shit happen
Hunter Richardson
The adult fighter in the video was a Palestinian from Liwa al Quds
It definitely wasn't some fucking kid they wanted to kill for no reason at all
Noah Ward
Sunni's and (((them)))
Nicholas Hernandez
I would rather put Assad as a dictator over a sovereign nation than 1000 moderate/secular/jihadist opponents who in the whole 5 years couldn't agree on anything for more than few months at a time. If Assad were to be removed it would be internal destabilized warfare ad nauseam and a fractured nation.
As for USA backing the rebels, it's power politics hidden under the guise of liberal rhetorics.
Don't for one second believe that these rebel groups are somehow virtuous people who didn't do anything wrong. I think that's what sickens me the most. I just wish the media was honest.
Jeremiah Gutierrez
they thought he was a kid fighting for Assad doe, in the video they said "Assad is sending children to fight for him now" or smth like that
Bentley Lee
democracy is always messy
I'm sure there were retards who made the same arguments when we rejected your king, but it was ultimately for the best even if there was conflict along the way
most of syria is sunni muslim so I don't see why it's absurd to suggest that Islam reflect a role in its own people's government. Ideally the state *is* the people. that's not the case under the current alawite socialist dictatorship
Matthew Campbell
they're making fun of his height. they know he's an adult
Jose Ross
and how would they know that? he wasn't even Syrian
Hudson Perry
Comparing current year Syria and all its complexities and neighbours, different religions and sects with (what I assume) is the founding of the USA is outright false equivalency. Remove Assad and you will see perpetual war between paramilitaries until the next dictatorship arises.
Cooper Roberts
Ayden Ward
Is the sadness I'm feeling right now from discovering America backed these..."Rebels" the same sadness Europe is feeling for the Rapefugee's being so rampant? I'm sorry for the fact America is helping and funding people like this along by extension doing the same to ISIS. Seriously, as an American Citizen, I feel disgusted this is the case. I've come across many a revelations in this thread thanks to that helpful Italian user.
Carson Miller
>Well, yeah, but she claimed she gets her sources from Al Jazeera
That's just ISIS/US propaganda bro. Might as well believe Saudi government statements.
Here is the redpill---
Below western Media lies on Syria exposed by Canadian
Camden Lopez
yeah I'm american
and I disagree wholeheartedly
when a ceasefire was declared a few months back there was an immediate surge in peaceful, secular democratic demonstrations, even in Nusra held territory
most syrians want democracy with varying levels of islamic influence
Elijah Martin
Nice collection, there is also this one about the "moderates" joining ISIS:
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Sebastian Hughes
>Civilians (who are mostly Women and Children with a noticeable lack of Men) die.
Kek, yes, the evil anti-feminist Assad only targets women and children obviously. But really even when it comes to civilians it's like 75% men.
Michael Turner
You know I saw one of them amnesty people on the corner. I haven't left my house during the day for a coupla months, but I'd put off buying the gift for Sup Forums's secret Santa long enough. Anyway, she stopped me and it was four fifty and the post office closed at five so I said to just give me the short spiel.
>okay, so we protect human rights around the globe
>OK
>So we're in Syria
>makes sense
>fifty million people have died since fighting began
>ok
>will you join us in protecting human rights?
>what human rights are you protecting
>the right to live
>gotcha
Anyways, I told her I'd google it at home and hurried to the post office, and turns out they close at six. Never knew. What do you guys think of amnesty international?
Jose Allen
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is this well translated btw?