Why are we not at war with China right now? They literally confiscated US military property...

Why are we not at war with China right now? They literally confiscated US military property. Obama is doing nothing about it except "protest" through "diplomatic channels." Are we going to let China bully us now?

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A war with china would be almost as bad as war with russia.
DO NOT
DO
THIS
.

? Aren't Russia and usa bros now? China might get Molotov-Ribbentroped.

Because
a) They make a great deal of our shit, so they get some amount of leeway
b) Obama is a pussy who won't stand up to anything

proxy shill

u dumb nigga?
u.s dont fight wars directly now because they are pussies and it would be bad for p.r , they use other countries to do the fighting for them, they are using the japs, gooks and flips against the chinks right now. if a war is gonna start u.s would just be behind the curtain and wathch them blow each other.

I don't care if the drone was in Chinese waters. Nobody steals a US spy drone and gets away with it. NOBODY

January 21 "Australia" nukes Beijing

China started it. How come the US always has to tip toe to make sure not to upset this Mongols?

get the fuck back to tumblr you hillary shilling libcuck. Obama, and all liberals, are blood thirsty war mongers who will do anything to start world war 3, even if it means not letting russia tamper with our soverignty.

china doesn't actually have a real military.

if there was a war, china would simply collapse.

The reason they don't have a military, is that the communist party of china fears a military coup. China has a lot of weapons, and some leaders, but no real structure like a real military. The soldiers pledge allegiance to the communist party of china, and not china.

>burger education

You're joking right?

sez "american" who don't want nuke china

>burger education

Because the world would end, retard.

>Why are we not at war with china.

Ill give you a watered down example.

Lets say you got a friend, and this friend of your owes you a lot of money, and you have already gone and bought a lot of stuff based on the money he will give you.
If you said to that guy, hey, im gonna kick your ass!
Do you think that friend is going to pay back the money he owes you? More so, when he decides not to, while you are busy trying to fight him, your rent is due and since you spent all your money and you were planning on paying rent with the money your friend owes you, even if you kick his ass, your kicked outta your apartment.

Now lets magnify that example a few times, in fact, about 1.1 trillion times. You see, we owe china about 1.1 trillion bucks, and here is the thing, china'a economy is based on that IOU, the second they get into a fight with us, we say, "LOL whos got two thumbs and just get rid of a 1.1 trillion dollar debt?! This guys! and whos got two thumbs and has an economy thats about to collapse? You guys! Good luck!"

>burger education

>Belgium
>Real country
Choose one

So give them another drone?

And by drone I mean torpedo.

The moral of the story is don't leave your HI TECH shit UNATTENDED in international waters.

Suck it up baby. The globally understood rule of "finders keepers" applies. China 1 US 0.

FINDERS KEEPERS

Because a drone isnt worth getting people killed over and China knew it. Cucking on this is an acceptable move and should be expected since Obama already fucked far harder with Iran.

>GROUND WAR WITH FUCKING CHINA
but mom I dont wanna

You say that like the only casualties wouldn't be Chinese.

T. Paco Hernandez

Israel got new F35's, how long until they start selling the parts to China?

It's not worth going to war over but we should definitely retaliate. I'm sure Trump will. Trump always retaliates.

I hope Trump brings back political assassinations. We should just start whacking their government officials and publicly denying it like in the Cold War days.

>Trump recks China and isn't even in office yet
>Obama immediately makes us look fucking retarded by losing ANOTHER drone

Get that nigger out of the white house already.

You niggers are missing the point here.

Yeah, a drone isn't worth fighting China over, but to not push against china in this situation means that China has uncontested reign over the south china seas.

If America tell China off, it means that those waters are not entirely China's to control and this maintains the precedent that its international waters.

If America lets China have the drone without a fight it means that it gives legitimacy to China's reach over those waters and therefor will be the inch that China will go on and take a mile over.

Whatever America does regarding this, all of South East Asia (and anyone who does shipping through there) is watching closely.

Dnc faggots are bought off and paid for by the Chinks. They've been chink-shills since Bill Clinton and possibly even earlier than that because democraps seem to always side with China. Notice how DNC is usually anti-Taiwan and Anti-Japan. China is like DNC's Israel but even worse because the dnc actively fucks up our economy just to enrich China'.

I was disappointed with the conduct of the Americans.

Firstly, couldn't they fire a few warning shots to prevent the Chinese approaching near enough to the drone to grab it? And if the main American vessel was far from the drone, why did they have the drone surface too early.

Secondly, the drone should have counter-measures. The drone should have exploded the minute the Chinese had it on their ship, opening a hole in the hull and taking it ship down to the bottom of the sea.

They were literally initiating retrieval and the mongols intercepted the drone. The US ship it launched from was with it

>He doesn't know about ID's
>waffle education

I thought Israel already have technology transfer programs with China ages ago.

cause you'd get ass raped in 2 months.

lets be honest.

you'll be all
>muh navy
just like the french at Agincourt and they chinese will blow you to pieces with their anti ship missles.

the chinese won't spend billions trying to compete in a silly dick measuring contest with the u suck of a. they'll be practical and destroy your floating sacks of tax payer dollars.

Are those water guns?

Also
>They literally confiscated US military property.
Source?

>go to war with China
> genocide the Chinese
> no more debt

It's that simple

Basically, they're doing it to troll Obummer and they know he'll do nothing but wag his finger and say that wasn't very nice. Now on the other hand they could be seeing how Trump would respond which Trump wont and isn't going to let them get away w. that shit just wait.

SINK
THE
CHINKS

Dude America ripped of China big time look up bill Clinton and his tungsten bars of gold the fact is the whole world including parts of your own country should be at war with the United States government

>Leaf education
China would easily be destroyed. Navy and air force rule. We'd get our 20 aircraft carriers out of range of their missiles and bomb them to death. They have no way of launching an attack on us while we do. They are also surrounded by our allies.

Oh they took a drone

kek

Because China are stupid and easy to beat.

That's why the U.S. had no problem naming, providing evidence for, and hunting down incompetent Chinese hackers.

>out of range. i know this because fox news told me this and i am an arm chair general!

end your life quickly!

>leaf compensating for his low energy navy

They have Ballistic missiles. How do you propose we get out of range of those without also being out of range for our aircraft?

Wow that shill triple posted

This is true, same thing with India

We could roll the rest of the entire world. Nobody has the level of hardware we have. Most countries would surrender to a single marine expedition ship.

Good luck fighting in the skies without, you know, planes.

na, the next one well just put a lot of porn Photoshoped of Chinese officials. life goes on.

We'd smash their shit, but that doesn't mean it would be a good decision. How it effects the history of the world is too unpredictable, and the last thing we want to do is kickstart another era of human history with lots of global warring. Super-powers staying out of wars with each other is a good thing, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt treat China like an enemy.

>burger degree

Wtf? We were never at war with a yellow asian. They may just zerg rush us into oblivion.
Japan doesn't count because we had a nuke. That was cheating.

>killing chinks
>bad

>Stole
Oh please you know that drone was delivered with a big red bow from Sgt Shekelberg.

>korea
>japan
>the whole of south east asia
>even the turd skin indians got shrekt by us

face it gook we own you

you guys struggled in afghanistan, iraq, and now syria

face it burger you lost vietnam

And China, or any other nation, would have struggled even more under the same circumstances.

Is there even a single Canadian on this board that isn't an absolute fucking retard?

>Italy more purple than any northern european nation.

Can we please not go to war with China? I'm a chink and I just want to live on my farm in east Texas while Trump MAGAs in peace.

look at this damage control. do you have anything to actually reply with other than unprovable speculation

Should've nuked all non whites when you had the chance

The mafia takes care the game of darwinism is rolling.

>No more Chinese manufacturing
>Job explosion in the manufacturing sector
>Rust belt re-opens for business

Indeed, it is clear

What is the magical ingredient in China's military recipe that would have allowed them to fare better in Iraq or Afghanistan? It's not their equipment, because they have less of it than we do and it's of lower quality. It's not their economy, which is smaller and less robust than ours. It's not their training, because Chinese soldiers get less training than Americans. It's not their generals who have less experience in actual war than American generals.

So what is it?

Don't what happened to warfare. Everything just seems to get gayer and gayer. People getting excited about this little safety yellow plastic thing. Plop in water like rubber duck then float about for days waiting for it to come back. Wheres the fireworks? Wheres the human will?

In no world should a lesser power bully a greater power. Listening to the people who now argue that the US should do nothing at the risk of 'escalating the situation' is what got you into this mess in the first place. Countries like China do not subscribe to this faggotry and will be happy to take the US apart piecemeal if it just allows that to happen.

Just to state the obvious for those who haven't clocked on, Trump is not buddying up with Putin and Assad because he is a Russian agent; his team wants to be free to take a more antagonistic stance with China. I don't expect war but yeah, buckle up kids

youtube.com/watch?v=fqts74xfyvc

It's only been a day. Just wait, it's coming.

The magic ingredient is that those regions actually welcome the Chinese because they aren't billegerent like Americans.

They actually are the biggest investor in countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

>but they just want resources

Yeah at least the Chinese are willing to pay for them. Unlike Americans who bomb their way through everything, get btfo when the local populace resists and then subsequently complains about losing on the internet.

If you haven't noticed, Americans are one of the most hated people in basically anywhere in the world.

The only countries were Americans are loved are like Canada, France and UK.

>but we can take on the world

US army was not designed to conquer and occupy. It was designed to destroy other armies.

America will never ever ever win a war in which the US is the aggressor.

China doesn't even need to do anything. They will win the favor of the world by investing in key regions that have already been pushed aside by the US foreign policy.

They've made some serious reforms in the last couple years.

simple. china's military operations wouldn't need to focus on logistics which has proven time and time again to be ineffective against armies that utilize gorilla warfare conventions. it's why you couldn't steamroll nam. but in the case with china, there's simply so many of them that they could afford to lose some of their soldiers. of course they still have logistics in place but they don't need to rely on it to advance their positions

Trump sucks at diplomacy and the world will go to shit during the next 4 years.

No, China does not have an effective nuclear deterrent like Russia.

>haven't lost a landwar in asia in years

You're on a good streak yanks don't give up

he's saying we struggled over tiny ass countries with far.... FAR fewer resources than China. So we stand little chance against China.

Also, the Chinese would have fared better because they would be much more ruthless. Take a look at the western part of China, where drones patrol the streets, public executions/humiliation takes place.

They would probably execute entire families for hiding terrorists. Why do you think ISIS hasn't fucked with China yet?

those rifles look hella dope

QBZ-95?

You just completely dodged my question. I said under the same circumstances, and now you're changing the circumstances.

If China were to invade Afghanistan in 2001, and Iraq in 2003, with the same ROE, and the same objectives, and the same causus belli, subject to the same treaty restrictions, they would have fared no better than us. In fact they would have fared worse.

You simply want to change those variables to bolster your non-point.

I don't know why I keep falling for Canadian bait. Your entire country is stupid as fuck.


Changing the variables yet again.

The entire country. It's uncanny. And I'm almost certain that I'm talking to little fat faced Chink immigrants, to boot.

You seriously want to go to war with China over a fucking drone?

Nice sidestepping

we can definitely beat anybody. hell if we know what to do after that.

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someone from /k/ want to tell me what those rifles are chambered in? It looks like a .45 submachine gun to me.

This. They were right with it. This is the equivalent of sitting on a city bench with your bag at your feet and some random bum runs up and grabs it. Except the bum is the world's most populous nation who also has nuclear weapons.

>you are dodging my question!!! i want you to answer my specific, autistic, unrealistic situation that is in no way reflective of reality and this is why i will ignore your carefully rationalized post that actually does reflect reality because i am autistic

ha ha ha amerigan!!!

They wouldn't be more ruthless because under this scenario they have to abide by the same ROE and treaty restrictions.

And no, we wouldn't struggle against China because it would be a completely different kind of conflict.

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>america wanted to go to war with russia
>trump made friends with russia
>ww3 averted
>guys trump sucks at diplomacy guys guys
no, he just refuses to suck chinese proverbial cock

This for real man. Go search the leaked Dem emails and you'll see that the high ranking Dems had numerous (((off the record))) meetings with high ranking Chinese officials. It's disgusting.

Because China's theft was almost certainly in response to Trump, so Obama's letting him shoulder all of the blame for the war.

Still claiming credit for British victories?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QCW-05

>Changing the variables yet again
nope. what i posted explains the difference between any chinese and u.s. military campaigns. the truth hurts doesn't it, cuck. cuckmericans like you who never accept the truth will never understand the world

>Chink
wrong again

Those look like suppressors to me (for some reason, who the fuck knows why they have them), look at the dude on the bottom far left's rifle, see the gap?

shut up vietnam, I'm still not talking to you.

MORONS

it was not military, it was a scientific unmanned sub for fucking ocean research

get the story straight before shitposting.

additionally, obama is a fucking pussy, that's why he won't do shit.

Adding to my original post, the Chinese also has much more man power. They can literally flood cities hundreds of thousands decently equipped troops and kick down every door in the matter of hours.

If you want to see how sophisticated the Chinese can be check out this article on a major drug bust: bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-bc7d54e7-88f6-4026-9faa-2a36d3359bb0

Things are very shaky, though. I mean, where exactly do we stand? Even in Malaysia, they're saying they're deporting Taiwanese people to mainland China. I don't want Bataan death march version 2.0 against Japan.

:)

No, but you did change the variables. Anybody can do that and make claims based on it. For example, I could say we'd have won Iraq if we just nuked them. But that's asinine. We didn't, and that would have undercut our larger strategy. You can't change the strategic variables and have your claim hold water still. Because then you're talking about a different conflict.

And I still think you're a chink. Chink. Now run along with your fat moon face.

Chinks confirmed for not handling the banter.

>ma, he took my rc-plane
>ok son, i'll get my rifle, his face need remodelling
Sup Forums

>US army was not designed to conquer and occupy. It was designed to destroy other armies.

That is the beauty of the imperial system of the US. We don't have to occupy. We use sanctions and the economy to cripple a country and then we topple governments and install dictators that will play by our rules and let them genocide the population into submission while selling them guns.

You are right, we are the most hated in the world. We have developed a system of economic imperialism that put the British to shame