>Amid the speculation on whether the electoral college will refuse to make Donald Trump president, many Trump opponents are pinning their hopes on one glaring fact: Hillary Clinton’s sizable win in the popular vote.
>Clinton’s lead now exceeds 2.8 million votes (more than 2.1 percent of the total vote) and continues to grow. Many Democrats hope this fact alone might persuade Republican electors to reject Trump in favor of some alternative.
>But this hope faces a serious challenge: Half of all Republicans actually think Trump won the popular vote.
>In a nationally representative online survey of 1,011 Americans conducted by Qualtrics between Dec. 6 and 12, we asked respondents, “In last month’s election, Donald Trump won the majority of votes in the electoral college. Who do you think won the most popular votes?”
James Gutierrez
2.8 illegal immigrate votes
Remember that fraud was found in the recount for Detroit
Easton Morris
so what? literally all of Clinton's popular vote lead came from California
Brody Stewart
>Clinton’s lead now exceeds 2.8 million votes Didn't you have about 3 million votes cast by illegal immigrants?
Jace Miller
Who gives a shit? We won.
Thomas Butler
Hahahaha Christ. I knew republicans were stupid but are they actually THIS retarded? Do they even know that it's the electoral college that chooses the president and that it's not even certain that they will pick Drumpfh? Maybe American schools should get rid of their AR-15 shooting classes and start actually EDUCATING the kids how THEIR OWN political system actually works... just a thought. Not a big chance of that happening. God, Americans are so fucking dumb.
Gabriel Morales
And Jew York City.
NYS found a 40,000 vote discrepancy between what NYC reported and what NYS has on record. Thank God Cuomo and DeCommio hate each other, he's going to use that to prove voter fraud and bring the NYC mayor down.
Liberals tearing each other apart.
Carson Johnson
Clinton won the overall popular vote (assuming for a moment that all of her votes were legitimately cast by US citizens).
Trump won the popular vote in a greater number of states, however, which is what actually matters (electorally). He is more representative of the overall will of the union than Hillary in this sense.
Ryder Fisher
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Connor Sullivan
An astonishing 100% of liberals think clinton won the election.
Josiah Richardson
He won more popular votes, than Hillary did in all her life.
William Howard
Soon...
William Mitchell
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Camden Myers
this
when will we just issue a genocide of all republicans they are so dumb and stuff lol
Gabriel Thompson
Is this copypasta?
Ryan Fisher
It's going to hurt all over again tomorrow, until you can say it in the mirror Donald Trump is my President.
Andrew Turner
>52% have an irrelevant fact wrong
Here's a handy guide for you: >Which voting system decides who becomes president? >Is [insert the voting system you're thinking of] the same as that? >If the answer is 'no', kill yourself
She may have also won the indian vote or the retard vote. It doesn't matter
Aiden Ramirez
They should if the premise of democracy is that it's individual opinions that count as opposed to landmass.
Honestly the Electoral College is inherently undemocratic, but that's the point.
Easton Fisher
Thereabouts, yes.
Joshua Hernandez
>In a nationally representative online survey of 1,011 Americans conducted by Qualtrics between Dec. 6 and 12, we asked respondents
LMAO
Wyatt Mitchell
>A new poll shows an astonishing 100% of Democrats incorrectly think that Clinton won the election.
Brayden Hernandez
>implying clinton won the popular vote without using illegal immigrants, dead people and people voting multiple times.
Joshua Murphy
Liberals still trust polls after this election? Well that's just retarded.
Isaac Cook
inb4 americans get buttflustered and say that removing shooting classes violates the 2nd amendment
Jayden Martinez
Imo true democracy is unsustainable, which is why, even though it's imperfect, the electoral college is necessary. If Hilary won through the electoral college I wouldn't be hating on the system, I would be hating on a mismanaged Trump campaign.
Eli Richardson
It's okay to be incorrect about things that don't matter.
Xavier Torres
Republican form of government is guaranteed in the Constitution. That's why we have elected representatives and an electoral college.
Parker Williams
abdul and kasam you are very good goyim ;^)
Luke Johnson
Kek!
Adam Collins
Trump did win the popular vote.
Illegal mexican votes don't count.
Brandon Edwards
3 million illegal immigrants voted for clinton >wtf, there's no proof of that you conspiracy theorist retard russian haxxors >OMG THEY'RE VIOLATING MY SAFE SPACE REEEEEEEEEE
Jaxon Scott
It's almost like most people aren't that interested in politics and don't memorize unimportant and obscure facts
Benjamin Cook
That's what Trump says. Honestly, the figure's probably closer to like 1 million.
The fact of the matter is that the Democrats are good at appealing to urbanites, and that there are more city dwellers than country people - Trump's just fortunate that the distribution of urban people is concentrated in such a way to give him an electoral college advantage right now.
It's worth noting, though, that while the Democrats have always gotten the short end of the stick in electoral college/popular vote splits, the same thing could have happened to Republicans on a number of occasions if things had gone only slightly differently.
For instance, 2004. John Kerry trailed George W. Bush by a not-insignificant margin in the nationwide popular vote, but was only 60,000 votes short of victory in the one critical swing state he needed. An electoral college/popular split in favour of the Democrats was entirely possible.
And hell, a split one way in 2000 followed by a split the other way in 2004 could very well have provided the catalyst for bipartisan co-operation on abolishing the electoral college altogether.
Chase Hughes
Sven shutup and get ready to prep the bull for Mohammad and take your wife's son to school while your at it.
Brody Gonzalez
>democrats short end of stick They start out with +55 votes. That's 20% of the way through on start. Republicans have Texas but demographics (illegals) are flipping the state.
Oliver Turner
no nyt, you fail again, that means that 52% of republicans know that 3 million illegals voted.
Josiah Foster
>In a nationally representative online survey of 1,011 Americans conducted by Qualtrics between Dec. 6 and 12, we asked respondents, “In last month’s election, Donald Trump won the majority of votes in the electoral college. Who do you think won the most popular votes?”
No wonder, the question is misleading and they framed it to get the results they were looking for. There are no such votes as "popular votes", nor can you have the most of them. There are only votes, and the way they are used to factor results is processed through the electoral college system.
Also, there was no need to include the first sentence, all it does is prime people by referencing "Trump won". A more honest survey would have phrased the question as "Which candidate received the most total votes cast by the public?"
Dominic Green
Well, that American system seems to be really easy to exploit. For example we have compulsory ID cards and some kind of universal system that attributes an unique ID number to each citizen and still there are some frauds, especially in rural regions. In the USA a lot depends on good will of elections' participants since in some places they don't even have to show any document confirming their identity, at least as far as I know. I understand that they trust in their republican traditions, but times have changed.
Michael Murphy
it's true though. trump won the popular electoral college vote. the only vote that matters. :^)
