Shitposting and memes aside...

Shitposting and memes aside, is fathering a child that isn't technically/biologically yours really as shameful as Sup Forums says? Be honest.

>fathering a child that isn't yours

and how would that work?

Marrying or being in a long term relationship with a single-mother.

well then you haven't fathered anything. you're just a literal cuck

adoption.

Adoption is literally helping another man spread his genes by protecting his offspring.

Maybe if she is a widow.

If she is divorced, hell no.

You're either

1. A fucking idiot

2. Too pathetic to marry even a used up whore who was smart enough to use the pill

Single mothers are by far the worst people you could possibly date and you deserve nothing but contempt if you do

The only acceptable 'wife's child' to raise is one who's dad died in combat or through otherwise unforeseeable circumstances like cancer. And you better try and knock out a sprog of your own as well.

What the fuck? I hate orphans now.

Eh, maybe. But genetic material is not the end all be all. There are many reasons kids get put up for adoption. And many reasons for people wanting to adopt. Usually because they can't have kids themselves for whatever reason, be it infertility or because one of the potential parents has serious genetic diseases in the family.

In this case, Adoption is a way of carrying on the family legacy, (history, ideals, etc etc) if not its "genetics". The Japanese Imperial family has done this as a major example, in order to insure continuity in the event the emperor was faced with dying without issue.

Not necessarily.
Suppose some close relative can't take care of their child for whatever reason, it's not shameful at all to take care of them.

Only if kids around 12.

This is the traditional view anyway. Death nullifies prior commitments and oaths, and so the Woman is perfectly free to remarry. Ditto for the dude. Single fathers are a thing too you know.

yes. The whole point of children is to pass YOUR genes on because children are money blackholes and take 20 years minimum before you get returns on it.

With this kind of attitude, I really hope you don't have kids. Its way more then that.

its not shamefull its just counter-productive. i'm not gonna raise some bastard who fucked my whatever before and left the dumb bitch. my genes have to pass to the next generation not some fuckheads, that and nobody wants a woman retarded enough to get knocked up by some retard or who enjoys casual sex fuck that

Don't talk to me and my wife's son ever again

You're a bunch of neurotic autists. Adoption, and even raising "my wife's son" is fine as long as you don't let it cuck your relationship. YOU are the father now, not who-ever spilled their semen in the mother. You aren't raising some-one elses kid, you're taking them and claiming them for your own. If you ever end up in a situation where you find someone you're compatible with who happens to have a kid, don't be a fucking retard and reject her because of what some spergs on /pol say. Just man up and make sure the biological father never gets to see his kid again. I'd say removing a kid from their parents life is pretty much the opposite of bluepilled.

Can any cucks in this thread tell me what post-baby pussy is like? I'm in my early thirties and single, most of the girls I can pull have young kids. I'm not going to get serious with any of them, but if the labia is a horrorshow i'll just keep jerking off until my income is good enough to pull a fresh one.

Fuck off I already have two. There's good and bad but financially children are massive burdens for years to come; doesn't mean I don't love them and those who try to look at it with rose tinted glasses are people who haven't had kids yet.

>YOU are the father now, not who-ever spilled their semen in the mother.

Why do adopted children seek out their biological mothers and fathers and try to form relationships with them if blood doesn't matter?

>Why do adopted children seek out their biological mothers and fathers and try to form relationships with them if blood doesn't matter?
cause blood matters

man i wish i had children been trying for months what the fuck man?

>But genetic material is not the end all be all.
But it literally is. All that you are is the product of your evolutionary history. Everything that makes you you is in someway influenced by your genes.

>been trying for months what the fuck man?
Nature's way of saying you're not compatible with your mate.

But that is a loop, they have you or your others blood in them and they didn't shoot out either of yours vagina/sperm. Yeah that wouldn't be a problem, but raising someone because they mother was a slut who didn't know what protection was is a whole other matter.

That probably happens less than you think it does, and probably mostly to kids raised in shitty foster homes or with shit stepparents. Maybe also with kids who's parents lie to them about their real situation.

I think if you adopt a kid you should never hide that from them. Just let them know that you are their real parent now.

>all we are is physical genetic history
You're a product of your own mind. Do you actually think history exists outside of the construct of your own consciousness? It all dissappears when we die (if we even die at all)

>You aren't raising some-one elses kid, you're taking them and claiming them for your own.

You're contradicting yourself in the same sentence. No amount of T-Ball and bedtime stories are going to change the kids DNA. But hey, if you like committing your resources to perpetuating another man's genetic legacy it's a free country and you're welcome to do it.

>Nature's way of saying you're not compatible with your mate.
she can't have babies, but i read online theres a slim chance. we allready had one but it didn't last

yes

The child should be its own father's responsibility.
Even if you raise this child as your own, it will never be yours. If you and your wife divorce, these previous children go with her, no question. You are there temporarily. Expediently. Unless the actual father is dead, you are a placeholder.

And not knowing this, and thinking you already have this child to raise, the child or children of another man, you may not seek to have your own. Thus you don't use the chance to spread your own genes.

Your line, your genes, die out.

It is survival of the fittest in the evolutionary game. Those who spread their genes, win. Those who help them win? Losers.

It basically means you are paying for something that is not yours. In other words, you have been played for a fucking mug.

Your history is your genetic legacy. You will one day die, but your legacy will live on in your genetic offspring.

Let me answer with some questions:

Suppose you live in a tribe of around 120 kin. You're closely related to half the tribe, more distantly to the other half.

While out hunting, Edward (that's a common british name, righto?) gets killed by a boar.

You're in a position to marry the widow. She's still young, just turned 21. Edward was your third cousin. You aren't closely related to the widow, obviously.

The oldest of the two children have just begun to display some personality, what with having turned four. He seems bright and behaves as well as any boy that age can be expected.

Do you marry and raise the two children as your own, while obviously getting some who are genetically your own as well, or do you wait for the spring equinox next year and hope to seduce one of the virgins from one of your allied tribes?

I was about to say that if you can't produce your own kids for whatever reason, then taking care of a gifted white orphan wouldn't be that bad, but honestly if you aren't raising your own flesh and blood you may aswell enjoy the bachelor life.

It's like working without getting paid imo, complete self abuse.

I like how cucks always pretend to be tough guys

dated a single mom with a cute little daughter once. my advice. stay away, the daughter got attached to me after a while and started calling me dad. i already was a seasond Sup Forumstard and thought i wasn't capable of any human emotions anymore but dem feels were too much for me to handle so i chickend out before things got too intense. also there's almost always gonna be baggage with her ex so if you feel like having extra stress go ahead.

i'm not totally against it though because i believe that every kid deserves a loving father but i'm just not made for it.

I'm 21 retard, I don't have any wife's sons.

Just making an observation.

Look up literally any amateur milk pornography if you're that curious.

Come on Canada

Single moms are for:

1. Throat fucking
2. Things to cum on
3. Sticking your (wrapped) dick in

Single moms are NOT for:

1. Anything else, literally.

You're not "claiming" anything, you're not "manning" up, you're justifying a woman's shitty decisions.

There are only two cases where raising someone else children is valid:
1 ) It's close family.
2) His father was a brother in arms that died.

Bullshit. Your offspring won't exist when your dead. The only way to succeed in life is to get as close as possible to the truth before you die.

You're playing life as if you were some sort of nigger.

Is not as bad as having someone else fathering your child. Is probably ok if you have own genetic offspring too. I would personally prefer a fresh start however.

Its only acceptable if you best the father in hand to hand combat and then pound his wife's pussy while he watches and cries before finally killing him and taking over his family. And you must also not treat his children as equal to your own.

>Your offspring won't exist when your dead.
What an idiot. We're done.

>trusting pornography

a milf is just some broad over 30. I need real world experience.

Here are the cons to what you are saying:

The kid isan't yours, you are putting your resources on another man's kid.

If you decide to have a kid of your own, you are already cuking him, by denying the full extent of his birth right in order to support the other guys child.

If you say you are only gonna pay for your own kid and the mom is completelly responsible for the other you are creating a divide within the nuclear family, which is not good overall.

If you do decide to embrace the roll of father to the kid that isan't your, you are gonna have to live with the fact that there is another guy out there who is entitled of being, part, and having a say on the upbringing of "your child".

You gonna have to live with tha fact that your wife's ex is always gonna be in her life, and she is gonna be dealing with him constantly.

The child can always claim you are not his father and therefore he doesn't need to respect you.

So, unless being a father is your ultimate life goal and you literally have no other option, i wouldn't say that this is a good idea.

Unless you or your wife are sterile, there is absolutely no reason to take care of a child, wasting time, money, and resources, that isn't biologically yours.

It's not that different if the girl is in shape.

Imagine being such a weak-willed faggot that you need Sup Forums to tell you if something is okay or not.

Jesus wept.

>widow cucks

Depending upon the circumstances or can be honorable or despicable.

Was the mother a good woman who was left by her man? Is the child or mother black?

You see where I'm heading here.

Good luck though as finding women who didn't just ditch a guy for a new one for no worthy reason beyond selfishness is almost impossible.

>he's an idiot because I can't abstract beyond my childish concept of reality

You don't get to come back as a ghost and visit your kids man. Your not in a Disney movie.

>leaf
Go back to sucking Tradeuauau's dick while missing the argument being made.

Go back to your weird, off-putting tribal cuckoldry fantasy

admirable but only if you've already had your own children

Kys. There's nothing after. You dont get to come back. Why wait? Do it. Kys. Right now.

> Your offspring won't exist when your dead.

Don't breed. Your children will carry your bloodline even if you die.

>the world ends when I die
Wrong.

Not passing on your genes isn't just shameful, it means death of your ancestry as well. All those people that came before you, struggled to make it only to have someone like you end it.

How is it wrong? Everything goes black. Nothing matters after that.

Go back to not being related to your own family.

>most people on Sup Forums are against abortion
>Most of those people are against adoption
?????????

Children are an investment. Raising one even if it isn't your own is a good investment if they dont sperg out or hate you when they become adults.

If you marry a single mother you should really have a child of your own with her.

I don't see the problem as long as the woman is willing to have your children and you legitimately enjoy the kids.

My oldest sister came from my mom's first marriage and my dad had 3 kids with my mom. My sister liked my dad more than my mom (according to her) and he even officially adopted her.

Nothing matters to me anymore != the world ending.
If you don't want a legacy that's fine, but don't pretend the world is going to end; you're just not going to be part of it.

even more people who claim to be good-hearted and well intentioned find raising someone elses kid to be very demoralizing.

It's like living with a partner you aren't really in love with. All the little things start to add up and you cant look at them after a certain point, and wish they would disappear.

>If you do decide to embrace the roll of father to the kid that isan't your, you are gonna have to live with the fact that there is another guy out there who is entitled of being, part, and having a say on the upbringing of "your child".

I'd kick that fucker's ass before he had any say regarding a child he abandonded.

It's almost like most people on Sup Forums believe that parents should raise their children

Augustus was a "my wifes son".
If you think the child has potential and her mother is good woman, go for it (the problem is that they rarely are)

Haha right until lil' Tyquan stands up for him because you're not his real dad

>implying i'd get with a coalburner

The race is irrelevant in this situation. There's nothing you can do if the kid sticks up for their real dad. You think the mother is going to take your side here?

Sup Forums is more mixed on abortion than anything else. Most posts in abortion threads are along the lines of "abortion is okay so long as you're black."

The fuck would I take care of something that isnt mine? Get real

/thread

See and It's a decent option if you enjoy the kid, mom, plan on having your own kids and the alternative is not having a family anyway.

Genetic death.

Both my wife & my wife's black son are fine with this

Reminder that the only child of Ronald Reagan who ended up not being a liberal douche canoe was adopted.

Or how about just worry about yourself and tell everyone else to fuck off? Seriously no point in helping to continue the tradition of letting women think its ok to have kids with no type of consequences.

Nancy Reagan was also adopted.