Communism

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

I'll do it

Kek does not tolerate leftist degeneracy on his holy board.

Begone, leftist scum.

you forgot to sage

lefty/pol/ pls go

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Get off my fucking board you goddamn kikes, fuck.

Why don't you like communism user?

le anime and communism xD

saged

I'm not a faggot tranny spic like you

Because I really love seeing homeless people and knowing I'm superior to them

Sage

> to each according to their need
What is "need" retard. Prisoners get their needs met. Hooray!

BEGONE COMMIE FILTH

Sage

SHARE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION. DO YOUR DUTY TODAY

Commie scum.

Look mom, I posted it again!
sage

Because I don't like an ideology with a nine figure death count

see

Sage

Daily reminder that Sup Forums is a Facist board of safety. Shut down commie ratholes. No space is safe!

Because it's for NEET faggots who should be hunted down and real life.

I'm betting money you're unemployed aren't you? I'm also willing to bet you're socially awkward and have very few friends, right? Finally, your little raid isn't going to work here despite having a mod on your side.

The irony is you real life losers come here and brag about how awesome your bullshit failed theology is... all the meanwhile your mod is banning and deleting everything in sight, you think you're scoring points with that? It's just increasing the hatred toward your kind.

You're not a communist you're just a really sad individual with no life.

why do you faggots love Soviets when they weren't even communist, economically. They were just state capitalism.
But somehow you ignore that part. In fact there wasn't one society that was a true communist society economically speaking.

Sure there were bunch where revolutionaries take control of the means of production and overthrow the bourgeoisie, but then don't do anything really other than create a dictatorship.

And before you start "hur dur Marx said there should be a dictatorship of the proleteriat" you don't know shit, stop.

The word dictatorship in Marx's time meant urgent takeover of power not an authoritarian 1984 society.
So what he meant by that is that the proletariat should have a revolution, take over the means of production, overthrow the bourgeoisie, and then bring about communism.

Funny how those "revolutionaries", when they got into power every time, they seemed to forget about Marx, about communism and equality... really makes you think...

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You faggots will never win.

Fuck off back to /leftypol/ you fucking moron cucks

burgeons scum

Sage all commie threads.

Fuck You.

>going through my grandfather's old belongings
>all kinds of medals from the war, photos, letters and a journal
>get teary eyed thinking of all the commie fucks he butchered and left dead and dying in the snow
>i smile knowing he's looking down on me from heaven

Commies get free sage and free helicopter rides.

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REAL Communism is awesome and stuff not like that FAKE Communism everybody tried like why won't they just try REAL Communism for once those stupid idiots.

oh look, its a commie pinko using a meme that is derivative of Sup Forumss memes

You faggots even lack originality

sage

You realize these 20 year old losers have no idea what real communism is right?

They're not communists, they're teenagers and angsty young 20 somethings (20-22) kids who got the shit kicked out of them in school. They have no talent or skills worth marketing, so they cling to an ideology they don't fully understand as coping mechanism. Kind of like goth. But, at least goth have something to contribute (art, music)... these dolts have nothing to contribute - they want revenge on a society that has no use for them.

tfw. they share the means of reproduction the whole week and all you want is go to sleep.

It's all fun and games till Antifa babies get their shit pushed in.
Sage

What a wonderful argument, speaks highly of your education SPIC

So in an Anarcho-Communist society, how do you commit suicide after the third famine?

Do you just play Russian roulette every night to make sure there's' equal distribution of the means of destruction?

>communism
>2016
Wait at least another year and it will come full circle.

oh man he is so dashing in his lil scarf
i wonder if any lasses made eyes at him

stop.

Commies leave and take the Natsocs with you

Hehe, cucks.

That comic is just so wrong in so many ways it's just sad.

What peasant is going to be able to afford a sword and mail when it would take a man years of apprenticeship and hours of arduous labor to craft something that in today's wealth would be like buying a new house and in turn required daily practice to use effectively.

See how long your wife and daughters go without being gang raped by the Lord just down the road who you don't pay tribute too.

Reminder that commies are a joke. Faggots get sage.

communism only wins by infiltrating authority and stamping out discussion. That's what they did in Stalinist Russia, that's what they did with the balshevic revolution in Germany, and that's what leftypol is doing now.

Infiltrating us with your cuck mod and mass applying for janitor positions won't work./ You can't silence discussuion you leftist shits. You know why? Because your opinions and methods are trash, and you know they're trash, that's why you have to ban everyone who opposes you in an attempt to make it seem like less people oppose you.

Even then, your threads are always shit, and as usual no leftyshits have any logical responses other than half-baked shitty porky memes.

Anyway, your days are numbered. 5 years and marxism will be stamped out across the west with the rise of nationalism and fascism.

>There's no true socialism
Because there's no such thing as infinite resources and supply/demand accepting such scenario

It's a tool to bring down countries when the time comes.

You're just larping as a communist you cunt. Get out of my ideology.

what? you're just proved the comic right you dolt

>where did the lord get the money?
>why don't the peasants have money?
>why is it ok for the lord to extract surplus labor from the serfs under the threat of violence and death? or in your case rape
>why do you take this arrangement of things as "default" of nature as if nature isn't in constant changing motion

TL;DR you're a fucking retard

Remember to report all seditious revolutionary threads using the Sup Forums report illegal content function, as well as reporting them to the FBI.

It won't even that long. It'll end soon as they're forced to get jobs.

>it's the spainfag again

Have fun starving to death. Commies hate food.
Sage

>infinite resources and supply/demand accepting such scenario

>actually saying this while shilling for capitalism

how ironic...

>Marxist-Leninism
>Admiring a bunch of thieving criminals using the instability of a post-monarchy and a raging world war to subject people to Communism
>Even Karl Marx the outdated armchair philosopher would've found it disappointing

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Reminder than gommies have 0 (zero) arguments against Capitalism that aren't actually arguments against Usury :^)

Oh look it's another leftypol false flag thread. Saged.

>what is surplus labor

Venezuela soon to be added to the list,you people are literally idiots worse than idiots! However our society is partially to blame for not putting more emphasis on the rise and fall of the Soviet Union in our education system.

Because you prioritize class over race and culture, among other things.

>what is this surplus dick in your mom's asshole

Karl Marx we have A word for him these days: BUM!!

>I-it wasn't even real Communism!

So what does it tell you when all attempts at muh Communist utopia through Socialism have ended in totalitarian dictatorships?

And I'm not talking 3 countries next to eachother, we're talking over a hundred years of Marxism all over the globe failing in different countries at different times with the same effect.
Always the same thing because centralized planning fails because the government pisses away productivity in order to gain popularity with the people.

Venezuela the country with the largest oil reserves on the fucking planet and all of the western world willing to trade or atleast help them extract it for a good price and it still fucking failed.

Reminder that commies don't understand basic economics.
Sage

was that supposed to be an argument or a distraction from your lack of understanding of economics?

Sage. Fuck off with these threads

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I literally almost have a brain aneurism every time I hear that fucking excuses B-but that wasn't the right kind of communism.

All of the liberal outlets that cover the situation in Venezuela say "don't blame socialism blame the dictators "yeah that tends to be a pretty standard outcome of communism dictatorship, so is hyperinflation and money becoming better suited as toilet paper. Like why the fuck do these idiots that still support Marxism exist, I'm perplexed it's literally a paradoxical makes no fucking sense. They should just be take it out and shot buried and pissed on, for the sake of humanitys progression...

This, it's insane how hard these people cling to Marxism despite the fact that time has proven for them to be wrong.

Archeological discoveries, the discoveries in psychology and economics.

Economics now are a lot more accurate and work a lot better than they did during the initial crisis, especially since the widespread use of the utility theorie and a modified capitalist command/free-market economy, most holes in Capitalism have been closed or are quickly closing, but these people are still talking about early industrial Capitalism because they're reading Karl Marx's criticisms.

They've even done some studies, with that I mean Marxists alone who have tested the MoP theory and came out with something entirely different.
Because if Karl Marl was alive today, he would've come up with an entirely different theory based on our current knowledge and not his 1800s worldview.

Most Marxists are free-market Capitalists anyway who have one university that's barely Marxist anymore, they certainly don't agree with Lenin or Stalin and rightfully consider anyone that still does idealistic and radical.
Most of these relevant Marxists just want some social policies implemented and are convinced they can keep them going, which they can in the state of good wealth when don't need much to maintain it and have some money to waste in abundance so you can call it Marxism before its inevitable collapse a decade or two later.

Re-appropriated :^)

Fucking scum, just man up and get a job. They idolize a man that was never a politician, never a business owner never had a job and just leached off his friend who inherited a lot of money, it's pathetic.

You know what the final stages of communism are: cannibalism, literally once the rats run out or escape that's what it turns to. Literally in the 1930s the Soviet union made posters encouraging people not to eat their children!! I don't hear about that too often from the Marxist Scum