Andy Murray wins bellend of the year award for his astonishingly charismatic personality because everything's better in Scotland. >youtube.com/watch?v=Slu1OuykMIk
>be English >Wake up at 7 bong in the morn >Take a lookyglance outways >Positively grey and wet like any beautiful day >Eat my breakfast of seared grickleknob and Prince Harry on White before heading out >On the way to work come across some impoverished afrikamen >They demand my wallet at spoonpoint >Gladly hand it over to the nice gents, and give em an ol' London Lollipop for good measure >Wipe my mouth off, wish them good day and head off to work at immigration service >Approve 36000 Pakistani families, under quota today >Head home >Blue Caps come me way >"Oy mate! You're under arrest in the name of the Queen!" >Ask wot for >Being within 50 metres of a deadly spoon, not giving the African me wallet fast enough, and not approving enough Pakistani families >Fair enough, take the fine and head home >Step inside and me mum yells >"OY MUGGSY WHERE THA FUCK YOU BEEN" >"Blimey mum, English things wotcha think I been doin'?" >Head to room for an ol Liverpoole Handshake >Turn on Wundahbahbox, go onto British Porn dot com >Give the state a call for wank approval >Purchase porn license for fitty pounds >Whip out me Knickerstick >Arrested for not watching interracial cuckold porn >Won't lie, slight of a shit day >God Bless the Queen
In general, or just in terms of their devolution proposals?
Elijah Sanders
There's not even a problem with devolution, it's cost efficient for the British government. If the tories were in charge they'd just be a wing of the government anyway so would have exactly the same policies and may actually push austerity past the fucking greedy entitled scottish parliament. Also you just know tuition fees would come in.
Chase Jones
Both.
Jackson Thomas
>and may actually push austerity past the fucking greedy entitled scottish parliament The Scottish parliament has had budget cuts year on year since 2010. Barnett funds things consequentially - so cuts in England are automatically passed on to the block grant.
Jason Young
Anybody watching Daily Politics? This person from a "conservative" think tank really shows the true colours of the Tories.
Hunter Jones
Oy vey...
Owen Lopez
SNP is legit atrocious. SNP is a result of the MI5 subversion back in the 80s >ethnically and racially diverse >religious freedom >National Race Relations Act >SNP led >civic nationalism >free education >Euro as a currency >EU member >nuclear free zone >has a refugee settlement programme >dysgenic in nature - retards, drug addicts and scum are encouraged to breed by the welfare state SnG and SU vision >Racially and ethnically homogenous Scottish Scotland. >Anglos and Irish Catholics - expelled >Catholics, Jews, Mudslimes, coons, asians - expelled and banned >By Constitution white settlers/tourists/workers can't make up more than 3% of the population >firearms for loyal citizens that pledge allegiance to the High Scottish Race >elected King >King and warrior elite rules the country >loyal armed Racial Patriots protect the Scots from the potential state abuse >nuclear deterrent that can turn USA, China or Russia into a wasteland >Scottish pound >mandatory eugenics
Dominic Hill
>turn on Newsnight >it's Evan Davies >turn off
Oliver Perry
it isn't even close to appropriate levels for a country in 9.7% debt per capita compared to Britain's 4.2%.
Connor Powell
>when a lower class person starts talking to you in the shopping queue
>can't make out the words amongst the croaking voice >the smoke on their breath >stop staring at their teeth >their hands probably home to a few species of bacteria you haven't encountered before >smile and nod
Liam Anderson
>and Corbyn gave them the platform with his fucking idiotic and reckless associations and policies I'll repeat myself: >Corbyn is not the problem, he's a symptom The wheels were set in motion by 4 main events: firstly, by Blair pulling Labour to the centre and creating a bloc of disenfranchised hyperliberals and trade unionists to the left of the party. Secondly by the utterly ineffectual leadership of the Green party by Natalie Bennett, which would normally provide a home for these people but instead came across as a party for bumbling old people with allotments and cats. Thirdly by Miliband and his utterly moronic decision to reform leadership selection and open it up to a popular vote, and finally by Clegg's perceived betrayal of student voters.
Corbyn was in the right place at the right time. Any other nutbag with similar politics could've pulled off the same upset. This is why deposing him will not solve the problem and it's why coups against him will continue to fail.
>I assume you mean that UKIP is to try and take over as main opposition to the tories? How can you not see how impossible that is? SNP have a better chance. The SNP do have a better chance but they can't do it alone. UKIP are the only party that can complete the destruction of Labour in postindustrial constituencies and if they do, they will pick up enough seats in the process to act as a counterweight to the SNP and LibDems. Furthermore you seem to neglect the fact that a Labour MP is preferable to an SNP MP in Scotland and to a LibDem MP in metropolitan English seats.
Grayson Wright
>Also you just know tuition fees would come in. This is a such a good thing. Tuition fees would cut back on the morons who just go to uni to fuck and get drunk with no intention of paying back their student loans. Might actually get people back into work in the more working class jobs we all pretend the polish don't do.
Kevin Lee
>shopping queue
Luis Edwards
>turn on Newsnight Well there's your problem
William Young
Didn't see it, but the Tory establishment is almost no different to the Labour establishment, so I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking cosmopolitan neoliberal SJW
Jacob Cooper
I want you to know, I'm sure you already do. But your LARPING is almost as exhausting to read as YKTD posts. You were funny the first day, maybe two, but months of this shit is getting tiresome
Eli Carter
>Peter "Haven't the rich suffered enough?" Mandelson >Peter "WHAT'S WRONG WITH PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT COLOURS NIGEL?" Mandelson Can't he just fuck off already.
Fiscal transfer is essentially the underpinning of the union. UK gets full use of North Sea oil in the boom times, but has to subsidize in the bust times. Northern Ireland is the real subsidy junkie of the union, but we accept it.
Think: If you forced Scotland to cut public spending to an "appropriate" level, what would the economic argument be against independence? "Oh no, your spending will have to stay the same, but you'll gain the ability to borrow-to-invest"?
Liam Young
>see a job I like the look of >50+ other applicants
Thanks, "open economy".
Jaxson Garcia
numale please
Nicholas Ward
>be russian >inject krokodil >slowly decompose >shout final words as the darkness closes in >"RUSSIA STRONK!"
Lucas Cox
600 new homes for Birmingham, St. George's Urban Village, in Jewellery Quarter
Not bad. Looks a little too much like a prison, but not bad.
Justin Walker
Ironic that Busby was almost certainly on the MI5 payroll, while MI5 almost certainly murdered SNP councillor Willie MacRae. >Irish Catholics - expelled Bonus Irony: Busby fled to Ireland.
Still, I suppose that's all a matter for the Scots. Devolution and all that.
Jason Brooks
Who else won cash mon£y on Ore Oduba this weekend
Bet on him when it was 12/1 - now I'm literally swimming in plastic fivers lads
Levi Reyes
>literally buying the loyalty of your junkie neighbour The SNP loves the 'England is an abusive husband' analogy, in reality it's more that Scotland is an abusive wife >constant financial drain >deliberately subverts the rest of the union >spends all its waking hours bitching and moaning and threatening to leave if you don't give it more money Norn is more like the downs baby you're obliged to take care of and Wales is the alcoholic uncle that shows up and empties your liquor cabinet twice a year but at least says funny shit about ethnics and doesn't try to guilt you into visiting
Chase Myers
>borrow-to-invest
Worst meme tbqh. Having the nation in good fiscal order should be first priority.
Bentley King
Northern Ireland shouldn't be a viable country while Scotland could be. North Sea Oil is virtually worthless currently and there doesn't need to be an economic argument for the union sicne it's sink or swim. Scotland would be a ghost town in weeks and it would literally starve to death. Scotland on it's own wouldn't be allowed to rack up it's current debt. That's the mistake of devolution, it was never 'accept devolution or leave' it was 'have devolution and then see about independence'. Should be one or the other and now Scotland has relinquished it's right to the privileges of the union.
Camden Williams
I don't watch tele. I thought Strictly was supposed to be racist central though where black people are all voted out. But the finalists I saw were 2 blacks and 2 whites, so.... I suppose the Left won't be happy until everything everywhere is dominated by blacks.
Wyatt Young
>spoonpoint
I kekked
Caleb Turner
>Ironic that Busby was almost certainly on the MI5 payroll He wasn't >fled to Ireland Temporary visit =/= formation of an ethnic enclave
Owen Anderson
Lads what the fuck is going on in our prisons?
There was the Pentonville escape last month, now the riot at Birmingham and something else happened at Hull. I always thought our prisons were at least decent but seeing the phone videos from inside Birmingham, it's comparable to American prisons ffs.
Leo Johnson
Well yeah, but as true conservatives we can't exactly have a no-fault divorce.
It could work if done properly. The problem is the PFI meme basically means it's borrow-to-hand indefinite profit to private companies necessitating-future-borrowing.
>Scotland could be a viable country >it would literally starve to death
Angel Ward
You're still a cuck though m8.
Jaxon Richardson
why can't they just build decent brick and stone neo-classical or Victorian Gothic buildings anymore? That's the shit everyone loves about british buildings like the tower of london, london bridge and St Pancras.
Cameron Gray
Literally no one ever likes anything I post, no matter the style.
Rod Liddle did a great blogpost on the Spectator abotu our prisons recently. tl'dr they are too nice.
Aiden White
Yeah first 3 voted out were black, black and asian Despite it being the judges choosing who goes, it obviously meant the public is racist.
Jeremiah Hall
Birmingham one was privatized and run by G4S who have a track record for turning prisons over to the prisoners afaik.
Asher Morales
It can't be that, or Scandinavian prisons would see constant riots.
Michael Butler
>Northern Ireland shouldn't be a viable country
That's because it isn't. NI is full of loud, obnoxious cosmopolitan junkies who think living in a city is the tits and that fiscal policy should revolve around that. NI is a quiet, agricultural country with only two major cities, but those two cities are so jam packed with nonces who demand higher and higher spending.
The DUP are doing their best to hold back the tide of liberal socialism but without them we'd be living in a one thousand year Sein Fein Republic of Ulster.
Honestly the entire UK needs a hard restart. Starting with an education system that actually teaches people useful skills and good values.
Jaxson Bailey
>The problem is the PFI meme basically means it's borrow-to-hand indefinite profit to private companies necessitating-future-borrowing. kek, no The problem is creeping socialism and increasingly expensive national welfare and healthcare bills Borrowing is fine if you're investing it in infrastructure or using it to make public services more efficient It's absolutely not fine if you're using it to top up the tax take to pay for snowballing benefit payments without making any improvements or pumping it into unsustainable pensions and free-to-use healthcare. PFI is a cancer but these (((valuable national institutions))) would still be hideous moneysinks without it.
Gavin White
Fair enough. If you think a murderer deserves a playstation and whatever else for his crimes, then you might favour the Scandinavian route.
Samuel King
kek'd
Jeremiah Nelson
thank FUCK this charisma-less turd wasn't given £250k
Henry Ross
tbqh don't mind a Yank making the thread, at least the cunt is interested in British politics.
No worries mate good OP
Dylan Martinez
Scotland is not only abusive to the union but also to itself. I have no idea what the long term post-independence goal is for the SNP but I do know it means, more immigration, more stripping of the forests, more windfarms, zero defence infrastructure. A country as large as scotland is with as little population will never survive. We'd be sweden v2.0 within a decade and when it's turned to shit the migrants would flood to England.
Devolution was a huge mistake.
Wyatt Martinez
Fuck you just ruined it for me, mate.
Dominic Gonzalez
I favour whatever works and is cost efficient.
Ultimately, it's not something that has an easy answer. I feel like our prisons used to be good but have got worse and worse, probably due to funding cuts but also due to importing pakis and niggers. More needs to be done to prevent offending in the first place also.
Kayden Stewart
Genuinely feel guilty now
soz la
Aaron Bennett
Prisons don't primarily exist to stop their inhabitants rioting user They exist to punish and contain people who are not fit to participate in society If your idea of riot prevention is to make prisons nice places to be then you're missing the point of prisons in the first place
The 'rehabilitation' meme was one of the worse mistakes of the 20th century
Noah White
This fucking guy needs a kicking in to remember the working class make up the majority of our Armed Forces and always have done.
Without us you would have actually been speaking German you cunt.
Xavier White
>pakis and niggers
Another issue entirely, you almost need two different systems for white English and nig nogs and mudshits.
Brody Bailey
>Borrowing is fine if you're investing it in infrastructure or using it to make public services more efficient That was my point. PFI is often used for infrastructure investment, both profit-turning infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc.) and, indeed, loss-turning infrastructure (hospitals, schools, etc.) and in both cases borders on criminal.
Furthermore "creeping socialism" isn't the problem it's made out to be compared to creeping globalism under auspices of free markets. One has to be weary of the free-marketeers in the current world: They are the reason that, for example, Hinkley Point is run by the French.
I'd rather the British state own our power stations than a French private company. (Though actually, it's a wing of the French state company.) Foreign ownership is a menace.
Eli Hernandez
>>I favour whatever works and is cost efficient.
Locking them up for long periods of time and not caring too much about their condition, and if they reoffend then lock them up permanently. At the moment they are treated like kids. They have happy smiley mother-like government counsellors/psychiatrists going in their being all nice to them; they are given televisions; they are allowed to socialise like in schools; and so on. Prison is quite a nice place for these people, and they know that they can act as appallingly as they want and it'll still be nice. The more appalling they act, the more happy and smiley the special officers will be to them.
Michael Butler
>give them ps4s and hookers and they'll stop being robbing, murdering, rapist bastards. Rehabilitationists live on another planet.
I'm just gonna ignore that and assume you're young as fuck.
Merry Christmas tho ofc
Ian Kelly
>Angus MacNeil Seems unfair to indict him for high travel costs. He represents what may be the most remote constituency in the UK. (Shetland is further away, but Orkney and Shetland are sort of more cohesive than the entire Western Isles.)
Angel Stewart
I agree. The officer class has always kept it running and been great at it, but we are symbiotic. You've always taken the piss out of us though for some reason. It never ends lol.
Carson Gray
the 4d chess videos is not very well made, the music needs to be lower,
Jonathan Williams
But then what about when these people have served their time and are thrust back into society? Might as well try and teach them how to behave while they're in there, give them some practical skills.
I think that would actually work pretty well but you know the normies would never go for it. I'd be interested to see the demographics of prisons. I'd bet the best performing prisons are mostly white.
I don't know if that's true or if that's just what The Sun would have you believe. Do you have any concrete science on what affects reoffending rates the best? I don't but I'd like to see it.
Juan Young
That's why they include the previous MP's bill
Kevin Reyes
>I have no idea what the long term post-independence goal is for the SNP See
Michael Gutierrez
There is a middle ground user. Targeted protectionism is possible without nationalisation. The Japs do it all the time, and despite regular scare stories about muh aging workforce muh debt they're still a functioning economy with a stable and internationally viable currency. There's no reason we can't run a 'free' market domestically without allowing foreign investors to own controlling stakes in key industry players.
William Hughes
in fairness; those guys do travel edinburgh to london a whole bunch.
not enough to justify being the highest spenders, but still enough to put them in the upper half
Gavin Gomez
Prison / punishment / rehabilitation is not an easy thing to do
On the one hand you want to punish people, make them not want to go back to prison, but on the other hand, you don't want to fuck up their outside lives forever, because they may as well go back to prison.
I'd like to know how many people reoffend because the opportunities available to them as ex-cons are so limited that their 'freedom' is now worth less than the prison alternative. That again I suppose is an argument for uncomfy prisons.
Why do so many Scots have dark hair and hollow dark-brown eyes? Secret nogs?
Elijah Thomas
nevermind I just realised how fucking retarded that was.
Ian Kelly
>Do you have any concrete science on what affects reoffending rates the best? I don't but I'd like to see it. All I am saying is if they reoffend once, don't give them the opportunity to reoffend again. I.e. permanently remove them from free society.
Charles Green
The "Previous" MP was himself, and if it was using 2015 then presumably his travel bill was lowered as a result of it being an election year. In 2006-2007: >The largest travel bill, of £169,971, was claimed by Angus MacNeil, the Scottish Nationalist MP whose complaint sparked the police cash-for-honours' investigation and who represents the Western Isles.
The rest are naturally suspicious since they're on the mainland, but I'll give MacNeil a by.
Carter Smith
Gaelic genetics
Evan Miller
I agree, it's definitely something very difficult to deal with. I assume there are professors of criminology who research this shit.
I believe judges are supposed to take past offences into account.
Jace Robinson
Oh, I most certainly agree. Though on rail I'm found of a government-owned but managed-as-private and for-profit "British Rail plc" with some public-service-obligations, and electricity seems a sufficiently "national" infrastructure to have under state ownership.
Naturally, moves away from foreign ownership are the main issue - with arguments about domestic ownership division being more academic. (Though in the case of BR plc, if we can't have it nationalised I'd still like it as a single railway company like the now privatised Japan Railways, instead of as the current divided service. This was the preferred route of BRs pre-privatisation management.)
The heart of the economy should naturally be in the hands of small-mid-size British businesses, not the state, but the role of the state should be accepted too. American "free-market" dogma taken to extremes puts one in an awful place.
James Rodriguez
Every time I check my phone for the news I get that fucking "oh look how many muslims have given to charity this christmas!" article
Adam Reed
First for COVONIA!
Luke Anderson
ever since my older brother started smoking weed he went full degenerate mode
i dont know what to do
Brody Rogers
COUGH MEDICINE WITH CLOUT!
Alexander Thompson
Cough medicine >WITH CLOUT!
Logan Carter
Life sucks for sex offenders, but I don't want their restrictions diminished either. The idea that we need to compensate people for being sent to prison is what got us into this fucking mess to begin with. A criminal record is supposed to be a big deal, and disbars you from a large number of positions in society.
Brayden Hall
It's because he's a faggot not because of the weed m8 sorry
Jose Watson
But where do the brown/black eyes come from? Blue eyes are really common in Ireland, whenever I've been anyway
Jaxon Bailey
>>I'd like to know how many people reoffend because the opportunities available to them as ex-cons are so limited that their 'freedom' is now worth less than the prison alternative
I've thought in the past that upon leaving prison, prisoners should perhaps be given an official alibi by government to explain why they have been absent from society for the past however many years. Sort of like how in a witness protecton program you are given a whole new identity. This would enable the ex-con to basically start a new life afresh. Problem is it might be very expensive, bureaucratic and unworkable.
This is of course based on the idea that once you have served your time, your past is your past and you should be able to return to normality.
Blake Gomez
He isn't gay he actually has had a girlfriend before. Apparently he's bi gender or gender neutral.
Jacob Thompson
God damn man just tell him he's falling for it, sit him down and wake him up.
Kevin Lewis
I.e. so that when an ex-con applies for a job, he doesn't have to say he has spent the past 10 years in prison. He can instead say he has spent the last 10 years doing whatever and whatever.
Jeremiah Harris
Is this the same older brother who's also your younger sister who's being blacked as we speak? Not falling for that one again
Caleb Wright
Father already tried that but he ran out and started screaming social justicy shit
Matthew Wood
>tfw have resorted to the "a girlfriend is the last thing I need" excuse because I'm too much of a pussy to ask girls out
Ryan Perez
Fuck, someone open till number four quick!
We've got fat Yank and it looks like he's about the shit himself.
Joseph Richardson
Parental figures aren't viewed in the same way as siblings. You try, he should listen to you more. Do your bit to fix the country and don't be a faggot yourself.
Thomas Hernandez
Mate I'm being serious. I need help.
Levi Baker
Scots are the true Judeans after all. Reminder Jesus was a member of an European, proto-Scottish enclave resident in ancient Galilee who struggled against Judaism. John Knox. A completely free man who disposed inwardly over the entire culture of his time, he has shown the deepest sensitivity for the superhuman simplicity of Christ. He represented Jesus as what he had once appeared to be: a mediator between man and God. amazon.com/When-Scotland-Was-Jewish-Archeology/dp/0786477091
