Devil's Advocate Thread

Now is the time to prove yourselves as reasonable, thinking adults. In this thread, if you are anti-gun control, argue for it. If you are pro-refugee, argue against it. If you are anti-Trump, argue for him. Left becomes right and libertarian becomes authoritarian in this thread.

Use statistics if you'd like and have a good time! Really do try to make a good argument

Although we do know that the wage gap can be accounted for by a multitude of factors, we have absolutely no proof that discrimination in the workplace doesn't have an effect on the famous figure

Good thread idea but good luck getting it off the ground considering the people that frequent this board

who are you calling a nigger?

that dude's head looks like a butt in the thumbnail

i feel like this is a shill thread to come up with legitimate leftist arguments.
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Came here to post this. A hairy ass getting ready to do whatever a hairy ass does... Next to this baby.

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Kek

rude

TOPKEK
That's exactly what I saw

hmm

okay

fuck that took me way too long to realize that wasn't a hairy ass

Please guide me varg

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This picture never ceases to make me laugh

we need to let refugees in because it's 2016 and terrorism has no religion, hey hey ho ho racists aren't welcome here, we are all human beans, ahmed please fuck my wife while i freeze in the shed

Already done reroll

Now is the time to kill yourself, OP.

That's why he posted it.

Pic makes me do a double take every time

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rolladis

more refugees = more people = more GDP

thats what theyre saying right now right?

1 meme and im died

Pro-gun. No need to argue. That's the point of a right, cuck.

Trump is the absolute worst-tier garbage candidate that could have won the election.

"Conservatives" whooping and creaming themselves for bigger government solely because le orange man said some childish things about beaners.

did someone say devil's advocate

>stop watching porn isn't an option
ya goofd

thats covered under stop masturbating. Unless you're just watching porn for the plot... in which case I'm not sure what to tell you.

Top kek

Pls let me keep my Sup Forums

what's wrong with having sex?

Niggers might be useful as low tier workers,taking place for low level jobs that aren't full.

roll-em'!

>if you are anti-gun control, argue for it
Why would I need argue against gun control? The right to bear arms is guaranteed by the constitution. It is you who must justify gun control.

>we have absolutely no proof that discrimination in the workplace doesn't have an effect on the famous figure
And you don't have any proof that discrimination has an effect. I don't need to prove shit.

>URL in the picture leads to a petition using the same picture
just what I would expect from a braindead leftist. Saged.

Varglord pls

are you a leftist outside of this thread or just braindead

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I don't think you can read very well.

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i havent fapped today so pls no 4

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Butter my roll Varg

I thought he was going to defecate on the baby.

rollin

Rolling.

yes

yo

I can't just stop being Christian for a week.

Rerolling,

guess we gotta give up monotheism :(

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I believe that the German refugee situation was a huge blunder, and that there needed to be a longer screening process considering the refugees are coming from a war torn area and are potentially jihadists; but I don't inherently dislike Arabs or Muslims. Where do I stand?

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Fight me Varg

The side of reason

Not playing devil's advocate

CURIOUS'D

Burden of proof

>Can't form an argument to defend Marxist beliefs.
>Declines to argue because they are above explaining themselves to us.

Shiggy

I notice your infographic skips over mentioning how many of those shootings were justified self defense, though I do have to give it credit for reporting that suicides make up the majority of "gun deaths". Also nice red herring/ad hom with the part about domestic abuse. It must be the work of the evil windigo spirits in guns that also force people to kill each other and themselves.

While muzzie flooding on paper would increase GDP, it does so by inflating the job market to the point that you have to work for slave tier pay to have a job. It also assumes rapefugees will work rather then just absorbing gibs.

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I already don't

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Thank (you)!

Alright.

thanks I was puzzled

OP is a fag

witness me

reroll because i dont watch anime to begin with

Fuck, I thought that was a hairy ass sex toy.

reroll because i dont have a waifu

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if 9 i will kill myself

reroll

Roll against degeneracy

I'll bite.

Trump is bad because he got us all to re-engage in a political system that still will not serve us in the long term, neutralizing more interesting political motion by attaching it to another four-year bullshit cycle.

Refugees are good because they sharply lower the quality of working class labour, forcing our elites to push into robotics. This hastens the coming AI explosion and the possible upgrade of humanity into superior beings who can truly conquer the stars and fulfill our galactic destiny.

Well, shit

Roll again

test

with my usual luck it will be a 4 with a quads

rerolling cause I didn't worship any god

Bernie Sanders proposed economic platform was to the right of Republican president Eisenhower, who presided over some of the most prosperous years in American History. The conflating of Sanders' moderate proposals which work relatively well in Scandinavian and European Countries with hardline Socialism was unfair. To have moderate proposals labeled as extreme is bad for democracy.

how bad can it be?

Fine

rawlling niggers

bye Sup Forums

I came to this thread thinking it was an ass.

While Obama may have projected weakness through relatively passive responses to Isis and Benghazi, the tactic was perhaps well suited to a climate in which terrorists are easily recruited by American attacks.

I legitimately just noticed it wasn't when I read your post

fix me up

Kek let's see

it literally took me months to figure this pic out

WAIFU MAKER

Is there a right to restrict immigration?

Consider the following: Marvin is desperate for food and shelter. He is on his way to the market/inn at the center of town. You restrict Marvin's ability to go to the market by blocking his path. Consequently, Marvin dies of starvation. This scenario is clearly a case in which you have harmed (killed) Marvin in preventing him access to essential goods.

One may object that you did not, in fact, kill Marvin--starvation killed Marvin. This, however, is not true; you directly INTERVENED between Marvin and the food source. Your intervention is the cause for Marvin's death which, in the absence of you, would never have occurred.

Objections: Employment. One may say that we have a duty to our own citizens and, consequently, we should preserve their jobs. However, it seems nonsensical to assume that, just because you assume Marvin is economic competition, you are able to kill him (via intervention). If this were the case, you would be able to murder a colleague aspiring to the same job you want. This is absurd.

Objection: Cultural Preservation. One may say that we have a duty to preserve out culture. However, this does not seem to outweigh any sort of value placed on a human life; if youre concerned that Marvin might arrive at the market and sell before-unseen blankets to the community, this does not give you the right to murder Marvin. Furthermore, a case could be made that hindering any sort of cultural progression/alteration could result in technological stagnation, for culture is directly intertwined with medical/food/transportation practices.

Objection: Immigrants are potentially harmful. Yet, assumed malevolence is, again, not a reason to murder an individual. If a man named John murdered your wife, you cannot, then, kill everyone named John you encounter.

If one appeals to the notion that borders are directly harmful to individuals, the result--namely, immigration restriction is immoral--is inevitable

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it's so fucking gross looking

this... seems sensible

>Gun Control
Gun control makes sense in a homogenous society with a large amount of trust. There is some mathematical point where the risk of accidents, suicide, and crimes of passion starts outweighing the need for protection. Furthermore, with comprehensive gun control self defense in most cases will be perfectly possible with non-gun means, because guns are so rare. The crimes themselves are also rare, due to the nature of society, which allows the police force to effectively respond to the threats which do occur.

All of this was, of course, the European model before the leftists immediately cocked it up with their political radicalism and unmitigated immigration.

>Veganism
It's honestly quite noble to strive for a life of healthy consumption and inconveniencing as few other lifeforms as possible. As a theory, veganism is quite admirable and no-one could really find any flaw in it. In practice, people treat it as just another way of confirming for themselves how they are better than others, rendering any decent morality behind it almost moot. When it's coupled with political radicalism in order to force a lifestyle choice onto others, or even culminating into delusional beliefs that directly harm others (against the core message of the belief), the result is a negative score.