We had a great discussion last night, would love to continue it. Post right wing aesthetics, vaporwave or synthwave music that is appropriate (cybernazi and such).
Anything that ironically or seriously touches on our hyper-consumer, volk-less, deracinated cyberpunk dystopia is welcome.
I was lurking in the last thread and there were lots of good conversations to be had. I'll post some quotes. --------------- It's some kind of synthesis of Traditional form and post industrial disillusionment of the human condition, but in a way that embraces this existential pain in a surrealist fashion.
I feel that if we understood and revered greco-roman appollyonic aesthetics, understood that art deco was the last sincere and healthy artistic movement, and occupied and controlled vaporwave from that vantage point of greco-roman -> art deco -> vaporwave -> anti-degenerate aesthetics, we'd have something like a movement with integrity.
The potential with these orthodox styles is that they might appeal to the more Bohemian type of people who would otherwise go on to become hippies and hipsters. They could be drawn in by the aesthetics and then get redpilled with incremental exposure to the ideas of the alt-right.
It's important to note that, too much classicism and the images could look like they belong in a museum, and too much contemporary design and the sense of what the movement seeks to return to is lost. It's striking a balance between the forward- and backward-looking.
not sure
Thomas Bennett
already absorbed by our aesthetic
i like to think I made this one a meme. never used to see it, posted it a lot, now i see it all the time. might just be a coincidence.
its a sculpture by Frederic Leighton
Liam Roberts
This is about synthesizing existing styles to match our purposes, not simply replicating them.
It's about wanting to dial back "progressivism" to more traditional ideas. The statues convey that. However the -wave aesthetic helps put "going back to the past" it in perspective for modern people. The 80's/90's are a "modern past" that the common people alive now can mostly relate with. If it was all just classical art, people would write off the movement as unreasonably "ancient" and pretentious.
Vaporwave began with a sort of post-ironic anti-consumerism bent, which lines up vaguely with what we are after (authentic identity and culture based on kin, not on (((commodified))) neoliberalism). It is a parody of consumerism, but it's also a nostalgic celebration of it. Vaporwave is both the realization that consumerism isn't everything and the celebration of the pleasures of consumerism. The "-wave" aesthetic will continue to transform and morph into ever more novel concepts depending on our memes. This isn't a rejection of the classical but this music and overall a e s t h e t i c appeals to our kali yuga age.
On a side note, I feel like the World Trade Center is a very powerful image to be included often as well. It's sort of like two great Roman Columns, as well as reminding everyone of a time before the new war with Islam began.
Aaron Barnes
forgot to link the pic and heres a view of a marble version of leighton's piece
>It's some kind of synthesis of Traditional form and post industrial disillusionment of the human condition, but in a way that embraces this existential pain in a surrealist fashion. This is a very good way to put it.
>i like to think I made this one a meme. never used to see it, posted it a lot, now i see it all the time. might just be a coincidence. Hey no need to be humble. I've seen it here and there, coincidentally in any thread having to do with aesthetics, which we've had a few in the past few weeks.
Thanks for the name, i'll put it on my list on to-do
Jackson Russell
> the World Trade Center is a very powerful image to be included often as well. It's sort of like two great Roman Columns, as well as reminding everyone of a time before the new war with Islam began.
I haven't seen this yet and it might work well. I'm shit in photoshop so I can't do it.
>It's about wanting to dial back "progressivism" to more traditional ideas.
its also about reviving a sense of history and the mere brute fact of our heritage. Its completely obscene how ignorant supposedly educated people are about the past, how little sense of history, the extent of the disconnection. Jihadis who blow up our airports reference crusader battles that happened 800 years ago in their tirades but modern west has no sense of being connected to anything outside of living memory. we're captive to "presentism" and the concomitant mental febrility, paralysis and stupidity in the face of threats
see this in libs being unable to make comparisons to anything beyond WWII or harry potter or whatever shit low-middle brow TV show they happen to be watching.
tweet in pic is a writer for the New Yorker, allegedly america's premier literary magazine. what a fucking joke
Julian Powell
I always had a feeling the anti-religious shit on here comes from people who look like this.
Dylan Robinson
Great post. This is why I like these threads, some solid conversation go on here.
Amen. Which leads me to a question, what do you guys think of the linked fasces or black sun? Too much? I like adding them alot. They aren't full Swastika tier but still add that regal authority.
I've also thought of adding crosses, but sometimes it isn't appropriate.
Chase Anderson
Where do you find all this music?
Matthew Perry
on modernism ---------------------
modernism sprouted from the Bauhaus, a german design school that was pretty fucking much the frankfurt school for design. most of what they created was distasteful and existed in a cultural vacuum, this was post-war germany and they had nothing to celebrate like chicago did.
In order for our shared vision to fulfill its highest expression of honesty and power it needs to carry the scars of postmodernism. To attempt to push away and forget about the damage it has wrought on our culture is to cast away anything that might be salvaged from that colossal waste of time and human energy. I believe that vaporware does this somewhat by mocking a postmodern aesthetic. Probably humor/mockery is a good way to carry those lessons with us.
This thread is important. I'm sorry, but I have a final tomorrow. You are doing God's work. Keep producing. Help people think that fash is the future, not the past.
Luis Jones
Fuck off Sup Forums.
Jose Mitchell
What is it that separates our memes from normie ones? The normie creates a quick giggle, superficial and empty. Equivalent to a Big Bang Theory episode. What makes ours last and transform forever? Truth, to be quite entirely honest with you. Truth is permanent. Aesthetic ideals are permanent. A more transcendental truth, not what it feels like 'when u nut but she keep succin'
RULES OF MEMETICS >useful and reusable - like "i'll be back" >pattern recognition >break and remix of pattern
>Why be so obsessed with aesthetics? What are you, a faggot?
There are certain things that people respond to on a physical level, that are much more powerful than intellectualizing. Some say that an appreciation of the arts is the beginning of wisdom. I think that in order to control ideas, you have to be aware of some of the unconscious, archetypal, symbolic effects of various forms. you need to have a lucid awareness of why it's important to use red here, instead of blue, for example: what red means compared to blue, why a line should be drawn at one angle rather than another. these are something like sub-memes, memes that people don't interact with consciously but which impact their behavior. Corporate elite have this down to a literal science, and there's a lot of information out there worth studying. anyone interested in this would do well to obtain a torrent of all the fortune 500 company fonts and logos, and browse through them.
Luke Evans
Some one in the last thread suggested calling it "Westhetic or Westethica". Pronounced wess-thetic or west-ethica. I liked it but no ones mentioned it yet so I guess it didn't stick.
Did anyone else like that name?
Owen Allen
Gonna post some pics that might would look good if they were shopped for this look.
Owen Allen
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Brayden Peterson
Looks like three layers, the original and then two transparent ones on top slightly shifted as to not cover the contrasting areas.
They did whatever effect, messed with the opacity, shifted it over, then put it over the original basically.
14 years graphic design school has finally come in handy. Interesting thread btw
>here are certain things that people respond to on a physical level, that are much more powerful than intellectualizing. Some say that an appreciation of the arts is the beginning of wisdom. I think that in order to control ideas, you have to be aware of some of the unconscious, archetypal, symbolic effects of various forms.
Jung all the way baby. The language of our mythology is part of the structure of being, of reality, and OUR reality as european peoples, genetically and culturally distinct from others.
part of the deal with all the classical art/myth references in vape wave is that all of those old ideas and forms are still alive and in us, they just have to be seen in a new light. the gods never went anywhere
the son must revivify the father
>anyone interested in this would do well to obtain a torrent of all the fortune 500 company fonts and logos, and browse through them
i've been thinking about where to start with getting this going
i hope the Trump admin does something about campus Marxism - Peter Thiel is super red pilled about it. people laugh about ivory tower socialists but it really isnt a joke these people are poisoning our society. the Black Lives Matter manifesto and any number of other SJW neo-Maoist groups could have been written by any one of thousands of academics in Western sociology, cultural anthropology, gender studies, etc. the state is subsidizing marxism and leftist revolutionary politics directly through the social sciences and humanities departments and the activists that are 'educated' therein
Trump should cut state funding for Unis by a healthy amount - 20 or 25%, across the board, to get their attention. it will save money and force academia to choose what to loose - and its not gonna be physics or chemistry. part of making the West great again should be making communists bohemian outcasts again, not respected pedagogues drawing 6 figure salaries
Parker Murphy
We should make aesthetic Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Joseph Sobran, and Dr Samuel T Francis.
Should I make a remix of Never Come Down to celebrate Trump's definitive victory?
Joshua Baker
Trump should cut state funding for Unis by a healthy amount - 20 or 25%, across the board, to get their attention. it will save money and force academia to choose what to loose - and its not gonna be physics or chemistry. That'd be fuckin great.
Joseph Rivera
yeeees
Ryan Clark
2/3
Eli Sullivan
3/3
Isaiah Wood
nice
Mason Powell
HE KNEW
Ayden Howard
Digits confirm, will start this morning after my duties