Only Islam can save the white race

Prove me wrong.

Hitler himself said:

"The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"

"ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."

"a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."

Albert Speer (1 April 1997). Inside the Third Reich: memoirs, pgs 96, 142-143.


"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."

Cameron et al. Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944: Secret Conversations, p. 667.

Islam ISN'T WHITE, the only reason we're in panic mode is because non-white muslims are flooding europe with replacement level birthrates.
Ideology and degeneracy is on/off, we can bounce back from that, we can't bounce back from demographic shift you dumb cunt.

>Islam ISN'T WHITE
Islam isn't a race, it's a religious ideology. That's the point.

In case you missed it, benefits include:

- strong birth rates
- deeply traditional
- patriarchial
- against all forms of degeneracy
- against liberalism and feminism
- warrior religion (like the vikings and other European forms of paganism)
- it's followers are not afraid to risk their life to attack their enemies
- The founder of the religion was an alpha male, he had dozens and dozens of wives, conquered vast lands in short period of time and evene threatened the Roman and Byzantium empires also at one point he had beheaded 600 jews
- it is the most anti-semitic religion
- it has a law system that punishes criminals and ensures patriarchy under rule of law

>Islam ISN'T WHITE
>we can't bounce back from demographic shift you dumb cunt.
I bet you're a Christian regardless of these two points.

You cucks would sell out your people and culture for some half-baked savage ideal.
We whites must find our own way, we are not the progeny of muslims, we conquered long before they did and we will continue to do so.
You should be ashamed of yourselves, thinking that a desert cult that has produced nothing but fallen empires and domestic strife is our only saving grace. Not to mention that arabs come as part of the fucking deal.

What is the definition of insanity, user? It seems the old ways have failed us. Offer an alternative or exit this discussion.

Good luck with that. I will remain Catholic and a through-and-through Moor-hater like my ancestors for nearly 2,000 years before me.

>I will remain Catholic
>cucked pope
>traditionalist protestants
It seems you cannot win here either.

The "old ways" aren't concrete, our futures don't have to be tied into a religious system, our people and culture should be our religion. Our traditions and well being the forefront of our aims.
I am no christian, believe me but I'm a fucking white male and damn proud of it. Islam is not white, it is not european and I refuse to bow down to the savage prophet of dirty inbred mudshits five times a day.
If you really believe that Islam will save Europe, then everything that IS Europe really is already lost.

Here are **some** reasons why I don't believe in Islam anymore.

* Not compatible with evolution
* Very violent and ridiculous hadiths
* No evidence for a god
* Treatment toward homosexuals
* Errors in Quran
* Slavery in islam
* Failure of Islamic civilization.
* Anti-intellectualism.
* Terrorism.
* Violence. Dealing with problems with violence rather than reason, debate, thought, and rhetoric.
* No freedom of speech.
* No independent, critical, or philosophical thought, morality is whatever Mohammad said.
* General hatred of philosophy.
* Wanting things or supporting them not because they are good and you have thought it through, but because it's the Islamic thing to do. i.e. Shari-ah or the Caliphate. Both of these would make the world a horrible place, but don't expect Muslims to put any thought into that.
* Discouraging people from having any critical thought by claiming that they are not scholars. The scholars are mostly idiots with immoral opinions.
* Using ad-hominem attacks, slander, and libel to shut down debate.
* Mentally deficient ways of dealing with real-world problems by becoming more religious and praying.
* Obsessions with how the Prophet cut his nails and did other things, like come the fuck on.
* Need to control people's appearance.
* Blatant racism on every side.
* In conflict with everyone at their borders whether Muslims or not, historically and in contemporary terms. Like can any of your fuckers make any friends and get along?
* Hatred of pretty much everyone.
* No interest in getting along and being functional in the West.
* Always feeling like you don't belong.
* Total lack of leadership, not one idiot in this whole civilization that I am proud of.
* Wasting time doing useless shit. Wasting time learning to read Arabic without understanding what you are reading.
* Islam as a brand is now shit. Failure to manage the Islamic brand.

You're preaching to the choir. I consider, like many, Francis to be a terrible pope. Worse, perhaps, even than JPII. It changes nothing. I will die Catholic and my last breath will be spent cursing Moors.

* Weird obsessions about everyone, especially the behavior of other people and your children.
* Obsessions with death rather than life. Obsessions with the so-called "afterlife".
* Always deflecting criticism by saying that's not Islam, that's the people -- they are two sides of the same fucking coin. Islam makes the people by giving them bad advice. People are already insane, Islam makes them more insane.
* Always obsessing about other people's social problems while totally failing to address any of your own.
* Mentally deficient attitude towards girls and boys mingling.
* Mentally deficient attitude towards having children and raising them properly.
* "Islamic science". There is one fucking science, Islam has nothing to do with it.
* For the vast majority of Muslims, reading the words of the Quran and not knowing what the fuck you are reading.
* Memorizing the sounds of the Quran and thinking it's a big accomplishment.
* Can't eat most things, have to eat magical halal meat. More reasons to feel socially isolated.
* Work to destroy independence and agency in children, obsessed with controlling their behavior so they will be good Muslims.
* Hypocrisy everywhere.
* Obsession with politics of distant lands, little or no interest in local politics.
* Giving money to distant causes and people, not worrying about your own community.
* Building more and more mosques for no good reason. All that's going to do is get more zombies to pray to a god that doesn't exist and will do nothing for you.
* Building schools with Islamic curriculum for children to make them even more socially isolated from society.

>If you really believe that Islam will save Europe, then everything that IS Europe really is already lost.
You seem stuck on the 'Islam is a race' meme. By your logic we would all still be pagans, and yet here we are!

* In-fighting in every venue of leadership, no group cohesion while at the same time insisting on the solidarity of the Ummah, there is no solidarity whatsoever and there is no Ummah.
* False idealizations and propaganda about of home country.
* Past oriented thinking and obsessions with the past, always wanting to return to the past, no concern for the present or the future.
* Always looking enviously upon other more successful races, while at the same time doing nothing productive to further your own success, the success of your children, or the success of your people. NAK thinks that being more Islamic is going to fix this, it is not.
* Sabotaging other Muslims because you are envious of them or you want more power.
* No interest in entrepreneurship (other than perhaps Ismailis), obsession only with professional careers.
* Nepotism and corruption in all Muslim countries.
* Always wanting to lead, but having little ability to do so.
* Obsession with the cause and not the people. Not how can we make the lives of the Palestinians or the Kashmiris better, but how can we get rid of Israel or India.
* Obsession with sexual purity, while it makes little difference in the real world. Prostitutes have children just like pious Muslims do. Having a few partners before you get married again makes little difference in life.
* Obsession with ritual purity which again makes little difference. How many times you pray makes absolutely no difference.
* Lack of any sort of activism to fix social problems in your own communities.
* No hopes of any of this every getting better.
* It being a false religion
* Evil Character and evil deeds of Muhammad.

Brother, if you want to be helpful please be concise. What are you main points and do they offer better alternatives for us?

Whatever, go convert then if you please. Islam is largely arab, and if you think a muslim Europe will stay European then you are dreaming.
Realistically if mass conversions were to take place, immigration would increase and our gene pool muddied up by inbred, mudshit mongolified genes.
If you want to look for strong cultures without religion at their core, look at China, look at Japan, look at Nazi Germany.
Strict Religion =/= Strong Culture
But by all means go worship a fucking dirty raghead barbarian.

I do not know how much of the Quran you have examined, but there are provisions for us against the non-white immigrants.

>slavery
>apostasy (degeneracy)
>dhimmitude (taxes)

By the slavery alone we can deport whomever we want. Who will oppose us?

>Islam
I'd consider it as a last resort, but I'd rather not switch to it if at all possible. I think it comes down to the women. They either give up some of their rights willingly, or we take all their rights from them forcefully

i'm not your brother abdul
you and your people and your religion are infestation incompatible with civilised world
you destrou everything you touc
the people are waking up to the fact of how much of a scurge you really are
and yet you still keep pooking the hornet nest
the middle east is just the begining, soon you'll be wiped from the face of the earth
the day of the remove is coming
abdul

You can't enslave other muslims "brother", as if that would even happen. The reality you want is disjointed, half-baked and impossible, whites would cease to exist at a much more accelerated rate if what you want were to happen.
Having reflected on your arguments and flag I'm guessing you fucking got me good. At least it wasn't a leaf this time.

If white people took up Islam today they would poz it up with gay tranny homo shit. It wouldn't fix anything. What is required is the will and strength to change yourself not a new religion...

I am not sure whether this is roleplay or serious. How will you save the West again? It seems like it is failing very quickly.

Why are there so many threads bashing Christianity lately? Christianity defines the west you dumb fucks.

>what is Saudi Arabia

lamo you could literally be talking about Christianity here

This.
The islamic belief is a plague, not gonna say, that christianity is good, because all religions have its' flaws, but compared to the retarded ideals of the shitskins? It is a lot better.

Is meteorite worshipping worth of any consideration whatsoever?

>our people and culture should be our religion.
Watch more Common Filth, goon.

The least cucked version of Christianity seems to be Orthodoxy. Never submit to Islam.

t. Armenian Apostolic Leb

Its literally easier to getrid of muslims then degeneracy in a society

A heretical autocratic state that seeks to uphold political power instead of common good for its people. Wahabbism is as much about religious differences as the anglican church was.
Not a christian either, already said this.
Never heard of them, will check it out.

>Christianity defines the west you dumb fucks.
>west is cucked
>Joseph's wife's son's fanclub defines the west
>(((coincidence)))

hitler was just majorly butthurt that germany lost ww1. Since he was of low birth, he didn't get the whole picture. Just as it always is with simple folks, they assume major conspiracies and boogiemen, since they cannot grasp the concept of systematic failure.

christianity is a religion of peace, which had been hijacked in past centuries by conquerors and oppressors and served just right. It's original concept is to give peace to those who have a hard time, the lonely, the paupers and the outcast. Hitler was too primitive to understand that, and most protestants are, too.

Most of those are good things, and I'm an orthodox christian

>modern west
>Christian

Are you being retarded on purpose?

>no tru crishun

Look at that, the muzzie OP has already rubbed off.

TAKE BACK CONSTANTINOPLE WHEN?

>A heretical autocratic state
Absolute monarchy. European Sultanate. Eurabia. Call it whatever you want. Labels do not matter. What matters is what we can achieve, and with the white man's mindset it is very great.

Be specific about which doctrines you think will not help us in our goal.

it's really serious you fucking subhuman
if it was for your inteligence you'd be figured out based on the aviable informations and anger accumulated toward your kind, that your days are outnumbered
you're just the usefull idiot and the proxie for kikes and by that A PROBLEM
you'll be going BTFO together in full package with jews
remember my words you fucking semite
go to saudi arabia and preach your shitty religion there
wtf are you doing here moron
you couldn't create succesfull civilisation in saudi arabia so you left and preach you shitty teaching wich will lead to another failure
WTF abdul, where's logic in that
go back to sharia saudia arabia and be a muslim retard there
you fucking utterly duscusting low life piece of shit

Hassan

>you'll be going BTFO together in full package with jews
Please show one another religion which promotes antisemitism.

Kek, they're a protectorate at best. The only thing giving them any semblance of power is the oil that will eventually run out and that's not considering we could take it whenever we want.
If that's your idealized muslum state you're more daft than I thought.

The son of God is Amanita Muscaria or some psilocybin mushroom.
Most accept without question the historicity of Jesus Christ.
He existed only as a celestial being manifested in states of extasy.
This because Christianity is in fact a weird mixture between certain sects of Jewish faith and the Mystery religions, popular in the Mediterranean. Due to the fact of the progressive Hellenization of Jewish culture, which can be accounted in Alexandria and the Decapolis, new cults emerged, of which Christianity was only one of many.

Mithra and Osiris took three days to resurrect as well; this because initiations lasted three days, because they were done on solstices...

>abrahamism

>the oil that will eventually run out and that's not considering we could take it whenever we want.
Yes, indeed we could. What could they do to resist us? White men chosen by Allah.

no no no you have it wrong. islam is DESTROYING the white race user.

Jews and Muzzies were fighting side by side against crusaders Abdul.

>islam is DESTROYING the white race user.
A weapon turned against its host is twice effective. And we are the rightful inheritors. Do you doubt the white man with his warrior spirit unleashed, and can you offer an alternative?

GO TO THE FUCKING KINGDOM OF SAUDI ARABIA
buy there a KSA computer and a KSA OS, plug into the KSA internet and be a muslim braindead retard with your muslim braindead retards there in a Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
FUCK OF SANDNIGGER

Spread your other ass cheek for the rapefugees and niggers.
Wouldn't want to be a bad Christian who doesn't read his kike fairy tales now would you?

go suck a niggers dick

Christianity is a desert cult. No white people involved writing the book of Jewish fairytwles

No, just white men. We are genetically superior and right of conquest comes from the strength to do so that we inherently possess. That final reply has shown where your true loyalties lie you mohammedan piece of trash.
You will be wiped out by the coming hurricane of white anger and right wing nationalism.

in addition, Kikeism and Mudslam are very similar when compared
>Gastronomical limitations by Holy book (Halal and ((((Kosher)))))
>All non converts can be rightfully slaughtered
>promote miscegenation
>extremely violent
>based on teachings of (((Abraham)))
>promote excessive facial hair
>

Islam is a real problem.

It is literally impossible for me to fathom how they won't be the final religion of humanity after a couple thousand years. It's a very well devised religion.

It is like how Buddhism pretty much covers all the corners for its goals (from detachment to enlightenment, Buddhism is fairly clear over all).
Islam covers all its corners as well. But it's goals are to dominate planet earth in the long run. Every avenue of spreading either through conquering or conversion (today, demographics are the new conquering) is well thought out and applicable over time.

They aren't just not going away, they had the end game in mind since Islam's conception.

No final solution will stop it. Idk what will

I am yet to see the fruits of any of these tantrums. You are right we are superior, but the building degeneracy in our lands must end. How longer must we endure?

Friends, let's get this straight.
Islam is METEORITE WORSHIPPING.
In the Kaaba, in Mecca, the thing towards all muslims pray 5 fucking times each and every day, lies a piece of black meteorite stone.

Every year, milions of mudslims make their way through some of the most violent and/or impoverished regions of the world, just to circle around a giant black cube containing alien matter.

The point is, well, yeah, you could convert to Islam, but take it as it is: some fucked up Middle Eastern animism, not some classy monotheistic tradition. And well, hehe, you can't be very 'classy' anyways with a history of institutions like the Inquisition or the Rotschild family, right?

>threatened the roman empire
>roman empire generally agreed to have ended ~406CE
>Quran authored in the seventh century

what

what

>what is Constantinople
>what is Rome

SAY IT WITH ME

C

>islam.
>good.

good one lad.

Islamic shit poster detected, shut up hook nose.

Greeks called themselves "Rhomaionioi" until 1840CE

Muhammed was a pedo, the definition of degenerate.

The only smart thing about the Mudskins is that they castrated Niqqers (eunuchs) to take care of and defend their women and at the same time not get cucked

Regarding Aisha:

(1) her age of 9 is only mentioned in Hadith which is corrupted, secondary sources say she was older.
(2) there are reasons why follows of Muhammad would want to exaggerate her youth in the Hadith, since it was a sign of chastity and status (the perception was the older the daughter the more flawed they were)
(3) it was common practices for daughters to be married for political reasons as soon as they come of age, which is what happened.
(4) it was in the interest of Abu Bakr and the religion overall to marry off his daughter to Muhammad as early as possible, which proved to be a smart political discussion in future years.
(5) Aisha was revered as a great leader and the Hadith supports this mythos.
(6) this practice is no different than other leaders of the era, including European Christians.

Yeah and there are negroes on the street corners of New York who call themselves Hebrews too.

>defending a pedo
wew

Muslim roach confirmed

I did not know this! What a great idea.

Clovis, Martel, Charlemagne, all pedos by your logic. You embarrass yourself.

I don't elevate them as prophets though.

Please, share your enlightened view to save Europe. Who shall we look up to?

Orthodoxy will never rise again.

...

You do know that Islam is set up in such a way that it allows the elite to operate with impunity and lets them be incredibly "degenerate" while pressing the plebs?

The plan is to make white people the elite and export the plebs. Can you show how this would be difficult for us?

I can almost guarantee that any white person in the west considering converting to islam is a christcuck.

you are not white too you fucking american immigrant..

Specialy with all your jew blood, amercia is full of jews... Its the headquarters of jew diaspora...

do you even know your ancestors? ur probably half a jew.

kys mehmet

Romans did that too.

>Only Islam can save the white race
Ahaha. Just look at the muslims.

You're fucking invaders. You must return to you lands and let the old god rest or their curse be upon you!
DEUS VULT!

lol at christ jew slave

they activated your jew genes

Islam is savage.
Also Christianity is what Jews hate most. That's why they attack it most and have had people try to infiltrate it, and why they are using Muslims.

For some reason, Jews like Muslims.

haha you post a pic of a dead dude who got himself raped in the anus by our fighters. you needed clintons help to save your silly little ass when we went all jihad on it.

Is this a bad thing? I remember that Christianity was the last refuge against degeneracy in the West.

Hitler was raised catholic

> I'm white
> no you're not
> yes I am
> well you are less white than me

It begins.

you worship a dead jew nailed to the cross, at least Arabs worship stuff from space


You worship a wood cross..

Molymeme or some one that's at least not a pedo or supports degeneracy would be a good start.

He concisely summarised a large number of issues

>white people are invaders
Is this some kind of jewish joke?

Christianity is the reason Europe is cucked.

Arabs worship a child raping Pig Fucker.
Christians worship Donald Trump.

(((Christians))) are also invaders.

>concisely
>large
Pick one. Time is limited.

>white
>Muslim
Pick one

Is not about being white...
Its about the jew genes..

Hitler himself had batalions of Arabs on war.