Why do working class white people not want free healthcare?

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Because we're a higher species.

>free healthcare

Nothing is free you fucking donut, it gets paid for by your taxes. Social healthcare is basically forced healthcare. Want if I dont want health insurance? Well I'm forced to pay for one for me and every other cunt with my taxes

Working class niggas can't pay bills if their paycheck goes to some social program that they barely use.

Because it isn't free fucknut.

There is no such thing as a material "right".

Grow up and read an economics text.

lmao they pay for yours too so quit bitching

>they're going to take half my paycheck :(

please quit being a retard

because they don't want healthy people to subsidize unhealthy people and raise their premiums 100% while doing so

/thread

because my company pays for it already

I believe the key word in your question is "work."
Think about that for a few minutes and get back to me.

You may begin.

It's a sign of a civilised society with lots of social trust. America is the most disorganised, unhappiest, and medicated society in the world.

>implying I use it

Go back to Africa

There is no right to anything, including your life. We make them up, making one right up is no different to another, whether material or abstract.

You are a pretty decent guy, Britbong, unlike your idiot counterpart who doesn't understand that the U.S. is fucking ruined because of Republicunts

okay have fun with your inevitable medical bills

largest demographic of workers in the country doesn't want to pay for other people's shit.
(Only people who work can pay for things, it's the people who work who by-and-large don't want to pay for others' healcare.)
Reminder: white people are the only compassionate group in the country. Stop begging us to buy you shit, we already told you 'no.' If you keep bothering us we'll see you as a problem to be solved and find a reason to lock you in prison so we don't have to see or hear your whining and begging.

because such services will be disproportionately used by mud people

>free

as in a massive increase in taxes and lower standard of medical care.

Implying there has ever existed a free lunch

ur gonna need proof for that bold claim senpai

>Socialism
>Civilised

No

stop talking about "whites", we should take care of all americans regardless of skin color

They're inevitable anyway because I pay taxes you fucking imbecile.

>free

Cause niggers are the ones getting aids

The same stuff is happening here. With advent of the super-capitalist policies, where the free-market is assumed to be the best in every situation, and the demographic changes, the nation is splitting apart and social trust is disintegrating. Everyone is an atomised individual with no identity other than being a 'consumer'.

And just before some of you accuse me of being a communist, socialist, or whatever, I'm neither. I'm a proponent of an organic state.

>free
>working class

It's the working class paying with their taxes for your "free stuff", nigger!

-Canada-

Another sign that multiculturalism doesn't work.

>free

>anything the state does is socialism
You're a cuck brainwashed by economist Jews.

Because the USA is a divided nation, no matter what the media tells you in your 3rd world poverty lands.

I don't want to support a healthcare system if it will help people who I believe are traitors. I'd rather have no healthcare than have my taxes support some nigger.

What tax bracket are you in son??

it's not diversity though, japan has the same problems and is 99% japanese

a lot of it has to do with urbanization and the advances in technology which humans are not used to

>stop talking about "whites", we should take care of all americans regardless of skin color

Fuck off kike, (((you))) can take care of whoever you like, don't talk for )))us(((

Then it'd be the same either way, quit being a stubborn retard

>wanting to pay for the grotesque hamplanet otherwise known as boogie2988 to continue living

-not proof-

It's not free, idiot.

We're not a homogenous European country. If we socialized healthcare it would mostly benefit niggers and Latin American immigrants at the expense of the taxpayer

how much money do you make gramps?

Socialised healthcare in the USA would just be working white people paying for the healthcare of niggers and spics

European countries will dismantle our welfare states before America becomes one. It's natural to be more individualistic in more ethnically diverse societies

>bong
>telling an american he's un happy
OK
Go back to complaining about everything you miserable fuck.

I didn't say "anything the state does is socialism" did I. Redistribution of wealth is socialism though. You must be a poorfag

Or how about I can pay for something when I need it instead of paying for something when I dont.

more whites on welfare than blacks in the USA

working class is already mostly covered and healthcare doesn't even cost that much if your employer doesn't provide. "free" health care was all about getting healthcare to 20,000,000 nigger subhumans who hate whitey anyway. fuck em, they don't deserve shit if they can't even be thankful for it. so while small business can't afford to pay their employees and have to shut down, the dumb nigger animal gets free health care and continues to leech off the system

it's not like niggers were even denied health care before. if you went into the er you got taken of even if you didn't have insurance. the cost was then passed onto the hospitals who pass it on to the insurance companies. "free" healthcare in the usa is a fucking kike scam so the (((insurance))) companies would stop losing money

Except you'd pay almost no to no insurance at the expense of paying a little more in taxes faggot

How come the English are so much more intelligent than the other Euros?

>redistribution of wealth is socialism
Not real socialism

>this meme again

>free

Why do poor niggers not want free housing, security, meals and healthcare?

>I don't want to help my fellow men because I am so self-righteous

I bet you don't want firefighters or policemen to help you without having to pay them either, Americuck

They do but the evil white oppressors would never let them have it. The only reason every human on earth doesn't have their own mansion is because the evil white man is oppressing them.

>muh non-white people don't pay taxes too

hispanic men pay more taxes than white women

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I for the most part support Obamacare except for that one provision. You shouldn't be forced to buy health insurance, but that goes two ways. You shouldn't be forced to, but god damn you should deal with the full consequences of your actions.

If the opportunity was given to you to purchase it and you refused it out of spite, or stupidity, I don't care if you go bankrupt if you have a medical emergency.

because its not 'free', how stupid can one be?

socialized healthcare only leads to corruption, corporativism and more expensive healthcare

In fact, everything that is "socialized' leads to thi

I'm a poor fag now, but I won't be when I finish my PhD. And I'd still support those policies. By the way, that's not an argument, it's an insult. Whether someone is poor or rich has absolutely no impact on the truth of the matter.

Your definition of socialism is retarded. By that definition we have basically never had a capitalist society.
I'm guessing you're a proponent of the misean or randian jews? I have no interest in arguing further with ideologues.

>americuck
>flag

Are you the /leftypol/ faggot who always pretends to not be american? You can't get away with that here.
>>I don't want to help my fellow men because I am so self-righteous
But i am helping my fellow countrymen because I want them to be able to be selfish.

>things that aren't true
>expecting women to pay a lot in taxes
>this has anything to do with the fact that niggers would abuses white peoples tax money.

I'm not telling you anything, I'm reiterating statitistics produced in your country, for which you have no counter argument, hence you're resulting to insults.

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>OY VEY GOYIM, FREE STUFF! JUST VOTE FOR US.

Socialized anything only works in scenarios of unified cultures. Thats why it sorta works in Europe and would never work in the US unless it split into ethnic states.

I don't wanna have to pay even more taxes to support Jamal and his 12 children so they too can become welfare monkeys who dindu nuffin all day.

there are more whites on welfare than blacks bruh

>a little more in taxes
You are so naive. That pipedream isn't how it works in the real world. Invovling the government in anything makes it cost more, lower quality, and take longer. I would pay a shitload more for worse coverage. Look at the Obamacare premiums as evidence. Socialized healthcare is a joke. Move to Canada if you want that shit. We're scrapping it here.

Because then we will be paying for both ours and everyone else's.

Fuck off commie. Socialized healthcare is retarded and doesn't work.
>muh all white countries
I can't wait until you are trillions of dollars in debt from borrowing money top afford your shitty healtcare.
The free market works and fixes all, that includes healthcare.

Ethics.

It should be like breakdown cover for your car. I got a puncture while driving and had to pull over, and I had no breakdown cover. I called the AA and payed for a years breakdown cover over the phone, and they came out and sorted my car. Now I have breakdown cover for a year.

there are more whites then blacks nigger.

Abstract rights are harder to be enforced by an authority 'government'.

Material rights are.

Free healthcare? Too damn expensive!

>working class
>working
>taxed
Yeah. Only the perpetually jobless benefit from that system you have adopted.

Can confirm it is not free.

You want long waits? You want healthcare employees who dont give a fuck?

Then yes go ahead put in government healthcare.

ok? but you act like whites are always a net positive when they are not.

personally, i don't feel bad because i am supporting fellow AMERICANS. don't we want to "make america great again"

>. Invovling the government in anything makes it cost more

I'm not a fan of socialized medicine, but its actually the opposite, as anybody that works in the healthcare industry can tell you. The government always gets the lowest price because of their big barganing power. Healthcare is like that, its butt backwards.

So the niggers can die. Then we can all have free white healthcare

So niggers can't afford it so more of them die

Do commies have any real arguments or is it all just spook, self back patting and demanding their government treat them like children incapable of taking care of themselves.
Do commies really think that they are so much smarter then the average person, that the average person is so retarded they won't save money up for emergencies.

>By the way, that's not an argument, it's an insult.
It is an argument. Poor people are more in favour of redistribution of wealth. You are a poorfag so you want gibmedats off people who work. Off yourself.

>Socialized healthcare
Canada has a single payer healthcare, dumbfuck.
>Invovling the government in anything makes it cost more, lower quality, and take longer.
Except single payer doesn't involve the government, socialized healthcare does. And if we were to privatize healthcare, all the healthcare companies would migrate to where they can offer more profitable plans, resulting in minimal coverage and high deductibles.

If anyone wants to know what socialized healthcare in America would look like look no further than the VA.

It is horribly run and you have a higher chance of dying just waiting to see a doctor than actually being seen.

They do - they just dont support being forced to pay for shit healthcare

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/279991-poll-majority-of-americans-support-federally-funded-healthcare

Yes, we want to make America great again by making life as hard as possible for the low-life shit eaters of our society

Whites are a net neutral. All other races are net negatives.

I do want to make america great again, by making it majority white again.

Because nice things like single payer healthcare only work in heavily white countries. Single payer would be heavily abused with a large non white population

Because the republicans indoctrinated them to work till they die for the rich and accept they need to pay to get basic health care other nations are given for free.

wat is it libturds don't understand about balancing a checkbook?

The biggest problem I see regarding free market healthcare is the profit motive to deny people coverage and treatment. Obamacare's issues come from forcing people to buy insurance, a government enforced product, and from requring businesses to offer health coverage to full time employees. Its the socialization of the health care insurance industry, specifically insurance, that makes it untenable as a law.

don't forget that majority white america started the civil war and elected LBJ

if anything, we have gotten trump as a president while we were only 60% white, so proof that being all white doesn't mean much

United Kingdom, Australia and Canada are diverse countries, yet all 3 of them rely on the single payer.

So if you have ever learned basic economics you'd know there's no free lunch kiddo. Now who pays for the healthcare? Well the people of course. But when you only have one person in charge of healthcare (which would be a monopoly), there is no incentive to innovate or become better because there is no competition. Also, people who may not need certain parts of healthcare or not even want to pay for healthcare at all will be paying for someone else's healthcare through higher taxes.

>free

Free healthcare can be good and can work to a greater extent than what burgers have now. Please burgers realize that what "socialized healthcare" you see in you country is as much "socialism" as it is "free market" i.e. bullshit and not adherent to either system but one made for corruption, and thus its extremely invalid to use medicaid or Obamacare as a examples of socialized healthcare failing.

That being said I do support making people pay for smaller things. I.e. if they want to get cold medicine or if they have the sniffles, but essential and extremely expensive procedures should be covered unless proven to be the fault of the person themselves (i.e. obesity - in which case they can be covered as long as they adhere to a contract and program to loose weight in the process).

Also, niggers should receive healthcare and other things as long as they strictly adhere to a eugenics program, a family planning program and move to neighborhoods where they can be taken out of cities and closely watched. So they can stop being useless for once. We have already isolated and identified intelligence genes (m1 and m3 clusters) and CRISPR/embryo screening is on the verge of being widely implemented and understood in IVF procedures, so its only a matter of time before such a plan becomes viable.

You're right, it's taking from people who produce something to people who produce nothing

These countries are not nearly as diverse as the US, and they are experiencing non whites exploiting their welfare system

>Want if I dont want health insurance?

Any American that fantasises about socialised medicine should look no further than the unsustainable financial black hole that is the NHS. I can only pray it's dismantled within my lifetime