What about this is so hard for you to understand and/or accept, Sup Forums?

What about this is so hard for you to understand and/or accept, Sup Forums?

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sage!!!! Looks like Tumblr is leaking again!

>muh jewish boogeyman!!!
Pathetic desu.

Anyone who actually believes any of this tripe needs to be promptly shoahed

Because there are two sexes in the normal population.
And anything else is a very rare aberration, anomaly or deformity.

>Anything other than the two sexes are RARE aberrations, anomalies or deformities

Convince me there is more than the binary.
Because all that is doing is showing me there is only male and female.

tbqh I don't even know what people mean by gender identity or gender expression and don't take either into consideration

using something that has no genitalia as an example is rather stupid

>confusing sex with gender

Classic rookie mistake. Next in line please!

If you want to be a guy, you must have a y -- this is basic elementary biology. I'm not sure why so many "College educated" people don't understand this simple elementary biological concept.

Oh that's right, they're cultural marxists who want to turn the United States into a Communist nation through the subversion of the family unit as it provide strength and less reason to rely on the government.

Fuck off, start your civil war already so we can kill ourselves some trannies after we enlist in RWDS.

Just lmao at your entire post man. How the fuck do you sleep at night if you're so afraid of "cultural marxists" turning America into a communist country? Get real.

How the fuck do you sleep at night if you're so afraid of anything vaguely right-wing?

>Implying the unproven ramblings of a child abusing pedophile have merit

Why I should give a fuck about any of this? I'm not going to beat the shit out of you because you're a dude who thinks they're a chick but still dresses and acts like a dude, as bizzare as I might find that because I'm not a fucking psycho who attacks people for trivial reasons. What more do you fucking want exactly? It seems like you guys want a fucking gold star for putting on a dress while having a cock, like it's some bold revolutionary action. It's not.

>implying

>ad hom
Go away leaf.

I sexually Identify as a ghost pirate. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of sailing the undead seas searching for the afterlife of dave jones’ locker . People say to me that a person being a ectoplasmic-sea captain is Impossible and I’m fucking retarded but I don’t care, I’m sp00ky. I’m having an ethereal cutlass created, a 17th century french sloop and a ghostly crew of shanty singers bought. From now on I want you guys to call me “deadbeard” and respect my right to kill rival poltergeist and photonically phase my being into the next realm . If you can’t accept me you’re a phantom-buccaneerphobe and need to check your undead-aquatic privilege.

Fucking tell me I'm not a ghost pirate matey! You don't know me! You don't know how I FEEL!

>Implying a statement of objective fact is an ad hominem

Go back to Tumblr kid

There are two genders.

Gender is not seperate from sex.

To state otherwise is to show off just how stupid the western education system can make someone.

saged

They have a logic of their own, perpetuated by a need to be unique.

For someone who doesn't care you seem really mad about someone making harmless, personal choices. PS: I'm a straight, cis male.

Not an argument

Need I remind you that Sup Forums is for 18+ year olds?

"Cis" doesn't exist.

"Cis" is not a thing.

There is normal and then there is mentally ill.

No other distinctions apply.

Just because you're a faggot doesn't mean science needs to bend to your batshit insane philosophy.

>Implying age restrictions mean jack shit

You aren't just new here, you're new to the internet as a whole.

I remember in elementary where we just learned boys have a penis and girls have a vagina and you stick one in another, one must only wonder what they're learning these days with how complex they're trying to make it

Notice how the woman example has no man but the man example has some woman.

This was made for nu male cuckolds.

>you seem really mad
What because I used a bunch of swearwords in my post? The idea that swearing=anger is just a concept in your country's weird prudish culture, don't project it on the rest of the world.

is slaanesh baking cookies again?

Clearly this leaf is asspained that the big boys won't let him play.
Scientists as a whole agree with that statement.
Looks like we need to you back to elementary school, huh?
If you truly didn't care you wouldn't made a post at all.

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This is a Rei thread now

>posting degenerate anime
Now? On the most holy of nights? Shame on you.

Has no idea about the propaganda he swallows without question.

Also the pic is confusing. Sex = gender so you don't get to say "gender identity". You are all faggots

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>If you truly didn't care you wouldn't made a post at all.
I didn't say I actually didn't care in my post though I just asked why I should care. We get this shit rammed down our throat constantly even though the people in question are a tiny minority of the population and I'd think most people wouldn't attack them for it in the first place so why do they need educating? There's so much more important issues in the world today and yet according to the media we're supposed to obsess over this trivial shit instead, it's ridiculous. How can you idiots not see that you're getting played? You think it's just a coincidence that all this crap got turned into high gear after occupy wall street and the people leading the charge are universally rich fucks (college professors, journalists, politicians, etc.)?

>I'm too dumb to understand a simple concept so i'm just gonna call OP a faggot!! XDD

wew

>Christmas
>Holy

Get out newfag

>cis
Don't you think you should die then? Scum.

A leaf post from America

Keep him. The more of these faggots move to California, the better we get up here.

We ain't sending you our best. We're sending out faggots, our degenerates, our libtards.

boy, girl.. thats all. sorry, no snowflake awards today

>I DONT GIVE A SINGLE FLYIN' FUCK ABOUT WHAT TRANSGENDER PPL DO SO HERE'S AN ANGSTY RANT EXPLAINING WHY I DO. NOT. GIVE. A. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

Mmhmm.

gender is your social construct. it isn't real.

Keked and checked

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Kek has spoken

So I guess you and I would agree that gender roles shouldn't exist!

>infinite number of genders

but i thought gender didn't exist

Are there even a million trannies? I mean this isn't really a thing outside of the first world, and they're so rare in real life.

>Straight and gay have the same "plot"

You're so fucked kid

close.. you shouldn't exist. your confusion is natures way of weeding out defective genes.

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Kill yourself faggot

I know what you think gender is. You think it's feeling in someone's head. Fuck feelings. Feelings don't determine reality. Emotions don't matter when compared to hard fact. If someone has a dick, that person is a man, no matter what his feelings are. Even if he gets surgery, he is still a man. Getting a sex change is the same thing as getting a spraytan and declaring that you are a nigger. You may appear and believe you are different, but in reality you are what you were born as, and absolutely nothing can change that.

Kek speaks!

I convinced my mom that faggots are natures way of saying their genetic code needs to end, took her 30 seconds to agree.

I'm trying to subtlety red pill my gf though and I'm scared she's gonna say nigger in public now.

That... Actually looks confusing even if it were true "5 (of infinite)"? THAN WHY FUCKING MAKE THE LABELS. you just gave yourself an impossible task that could never be categorized, made to be understood, or explained.

Checking my own shit after switching devices

I agree with this guy

The cold hard fact is that scientists agree that your genitals don't determine everything about your identity.

Just because you don't understand doesn't mean other people won't.

>The cold hard fact is that scientists agree that your genitals don't determine everything about your identity


A pedophile had it as a hypothesis, did unethical experiments that caused those it was done on to kill themselves and only proved that even with socialisation and hormone therapy from birth you can't change someone's gender.

That's it, nothing else has been proven.

Why does someone's feelings matter? If I feel like I'm a nigger, does that make me a nigger? No, my white skin, caucasian features, and most importantly, my European genes prove I am white no matter how much I believe I am a nigger. I don't care what psychologists have to say. Modern media is encouraging little kids to mutilate themselves and fuck up their hormones. Common sense is a better voice.

this is what i don't get most of all.

>gender is social construct
>i identify as the social construct of feminine.

wat

sage

There are 6 genders in the talmud, maybe you are right

This.
Gender studies puts so much emphasis on John Money's theories.
When he tried to put it into real life, it failed spectacularly.

>my unsourced claim supersedes all others

>I don't care what psychologists have to say
But... I thought you cared about facts? Lol.

If you cared about facts, you wouldn't hold a belief that relies entirely on assuming the unproven (and in many ways disproven) hypothesises of John Money where true.

The father of psychology thought most little kids had incest fetishes.
"The idea that boys want to sleep with their mothers strikes most men as the silliest thing they have ever heard. Obviously, it did not seem so to Freud, who wrote that as a boy he once had an erotic reaction to watching his mother dressing. But Freud had a wet-nurse, and may not have experienced the early intimacy that would have tipped off his perceptual system that Mrs. Freud was his mother. The Westermarck theory has out-Freuded Freud."

—Steven Pinker, How the Mind Works

I respect some aspects of psychology but when it comes to this bullshit about sex and gender there is an obvious agenda behind it. And refute my transracial argument please. Try to defend trans kids. You can't. Common sense trumps all this feelings bullshit.

Psychologists base everything on people's mental state and what they are feeling.

Completely different than penis=boy, vagina=girl, anything else is a very rare abnormally/deformity.

>transracial
We're all human beings bud. If a non-black person identities as a black person, they're a dumbass troll. I would know, I spouted the same shit on this board.
>trans kids
What's wrong with em?

What do you guys think of Jung and the Anima/Animus system?

>The father of psychology thought most little kids had incest fetishes


It's not just that, literally every single idea he ever had has been disproved over the years. Many in his own lifetime.

Our "feelings" are electrical signals in our brains, what's more real than that? You're just turning a blind eye to things you disagree with.

>What's wrong with em?

The fact that even if being trans wasn't a mental illness, you literally cannot have an abnormal sexuality before you reach the point of being sexually active. It literally cannot happen.

John Money talk? Have the TL;DR:

Have a quick rundown along with a little story:

John Money
>psychologist and sexologist specializing in gender identity
>in the 1950s he did a ton of work on gender identity
>speculated that differences such as color preference/toys etc. were arbitrary
>developed the modern definition of gender role

here's his definition circa 1955:

"all those things that a person says or does to disclose himself or herself as having the status of boy or man, girl or woman, respectively. It includes, but is not restricted to sexuality in the sense of eroticism. Gender role is appraised in relation to the following: general mannerisms, deportment and demeanor; play preferences and recreational interests; spontaneous topics of talk in unprompted conversation and casual comment; content of dreams, daydreams and fantasies; replies to oblique inquiries and projective tests; evidence of erotic practices, and, finally, the person's own replies to direct inquiry."

>1972 his theories hit the college bookshelves
>oversaw the sexual reassignment of David Reimer and used this as a basis for his 1972 book

Now entering the David Reimer story:
>David Reimer is born male
>botched circumcision destroys his penis
>Money persuades parents to pursue sexual reassignment
>recommended hormone treatment and surgery (parents only did hormone)
>David Reimer was raised female
>Money forced Reimer to rehearse sex with his brother, placing Reimer as the bottom and even having them inspect each other nude/taking pictures of them
>Money wrote a fuckton of stuff espousing the success of this case and how it could be applied in practice to the intersexed

David Reimer committed suicide. Turns out, he identified as male, and the hormones etc. didn't change that. His parents strongly believe Money's work was contributive to the death of their son - especially since he threatened suicide when confronted with continuing to see Money.

Continued next post...

So, Money basically rejected criticism stating that it was the right wing media going on a witch hunt and opposing feminist ideals in preference for biological determinism. Though this was somewhat a front. He did feel fucking terrible and privately blamed his actions caused the Reimer's death, and his later work started to reflect that his opinion on matter changed (ie. he saw that "gender" has a biological component). But the damage was already done.

From around the 60s to the 90s, the malleable nature of gender and nurture's dominance over nature he originally espoused became mainstream within doctors and shrinks. Colleagues of Money also helped it gain traction. This work became the basis for many sexual reassignments, intersex'd operations or even how to handle males born with micropenis/indeterminate genitalia. Norway is one of the countries that used it for the basis of operations that I know of which is currently paying individuals back or attempting to recompense them with appropriate surgery/hormones to return to the gender they believe they are. USA and Canada had a fair part as well.

The theories even have a strong following now despite the fact that many medical and psychological professionals have been attempting to cast off his influence for at least 17 years.

What does sexual activity have anything to do with this

You forgot to mention that his brother also committed suicide over the experiment.

Fine. Let's discuss something more extreme than transracialism. Otherkin. Are people who believes they are dogs dogs? They believe they are dogs in their heart, so according to your logic, they are dogs. The essential core message of yours is that trans people can identify as something other than their physical appearance, so transracialism (which was a big deal with that BLM leader) and otherkin are the same as transgenderism in the core.

About trans kids, children should not make decisions like that with their bodies. They may regret taking hormones and mutilating their genitals as adults. Their brains are not fully developed. This could also open the doors to pedophilia because acvording to this logic, if kids can mutilate their genitals consensually, they should be able to have sex consensually as well. The idea of kids partaking in sex activism is just extremely creepy. If you want to do that weird shit to your body as an adult, so be it. I'll criticize you, but I won't advocate to ban you from swallowing estrogen pills. If you were to encourage kids to follow suit, expect lots of people advocating to ban it.

>What does sexual activity have anything to do with this

It's not sexual activity, it's being sexually active. As in, your hormones have kicked in and you start actually being sexual. You can't be sexual in a way that isn't conventional when you aren't at a point in your life when you're sexual at all.

>implying Rei didn't become a thicc superslut whore who cheats on her "boyfriends" and fucks random homeless people she meets on the streets

I've seen the mangas!

>I've seen the mangas!

Those are dojinshi from degenerates who want to corrupt Rei's purity.

>An awful man who happened to hold a certain set of views entirely discredits the idea gender identity, gotcha!

"Conventional sexuality"? Motherfucker you're posting anime girls. I think you need to buy yourself a mirror.

>Implying thinking anime grills are cute makes me comparable to a fucking tranny and his mental illness

Fuck off with that bullshit burgers.

those are scribed by the devout followers of Ayanami with a firm grasp on her true ideals as well as their dicks

Wrong, they're made by followers of Langley who want to hold up their goddess above the one true best girl.

Attraction in the heart? Last time I checked the heart doesn't have any neurons

Why the fuck does it matter? There are more important things to ponder than childish psuedoscience. Stop distracting the white race from continuing it's greatness.

>otherkin
Otherkin are a fringe group. Who cares about what they do anyway, it's like not they murder people.
>letting kids be transgender leads to pedophilia
I.... what? Look buddy, there's a huge difference between letting kids be who they wanna be vs. fucking them.

You wanna fuck cartoon girls, bucko. How can you not see the hypocrisy? Damn.

The problem is not the concept of gender identity - the problem is that the theories which were most pivotal in its conception are simply wrong - because they refuse to accept that there is a biological component to gender.

As it sits right now Psychology/Psychiatry has a lot of fucking metaphorical crime scene tape all over the place. Certain things are very much considered career suicide or require significant clout prior to your investigation into the matter - particularly in neurophysiology. And this is not even taking into account that certain specializations/subfields within it have very much politically aligned themselves or face a sharp divide. Social Psychology is a great example of this - it currently only has somewhere in the realm of approximately 6% right of center or "conservative" identifying social psychologists. And those that do identify as such have communicated that there is an open hostility or unfriendly intellectual climate there. When a poll was conducted with hundreds of professionals within the field - a few questions were asked to see if there was a willingness to discriminate against the political conservatives within the field:
>Would they be more likely to reject a paper or a grant application that showed a politically conservative perspective?
>Would they be reluctant to invite a conservative colleague to a symposium?
>Would they favor a liberal job candidate over a conservative candidate?
Liberal respondents answered yes to all three of these, and it was found that the more the number of liberal respondents in an area, the more likely they were to be willing to discriminate against the conservative respondents.

So when you are dealing with shit like that - that plagues Psych as a whole, never mind the BA fags shitting up stuff, its easy to see why no "progress" can be made. You need to be willing to stick your neck out for it. And you might be chopped.

>Otherkin are a fringe group.
Trans people make up 0.3% of the population, that's pretty fringe
>You wanna fuck cartoon girls, bucko. How can you not see the hypocrisy? Damn.

Thinking cute things are cute =/= wanting to fuck them.

Darn, forgot the image.

The core message of transgenderism is that you are what you feel you are, and the core message of otherkin is no different.

Tell me how letting someone split apart a kid's dick in a sex change is any different than letting someone fondle a child if the kid were to say yes in both situations. Like I said before, let's say the kid gets hormone therapy without splitting his dick. What if he regrets it later in life? Those are irreversable changes you know.

There are infinite of everything because no two things are exactly the same? So, what, we should just abandon all labels and groups for everything ever, because nothing is 100% completely anything.

Great. Race doesn't exist anymore, no more racism. Or gender. Or species. Or planets. Or language. Or anything. Nothing exists. Thanks liberals, I can't wait to apply this high-functional ideology to my day to day life and gauge the productivity increase!

When you disagree with something, it's because the goddamn liberals fudge everything. Understood.

It's all personal choice. How is someone regretting past decisions ever gonna impact you personally? If a parent forces a child to be transgender, that's obviously wrong. But that is aside the point.

What a nuanced response. Pack it up y'all, we're done here.

>If a parent forces a child to be transgender, that's obviously wrong

That's why I'm not ok with it, child abuse is wrong, and this type of abuse is actively detrimental to society as a whole. Which isn't even touching on the fact that the rate of children who are trans who have it forced on them by their parents is 100%.