Are video games the most degenerate thing to ever happen to the western world? Instead of actually working to improve yourself, you get to feel good about your weak, flabby body by pretending to be Batman or Zelda for hours on end. There is simply no way the western world would have ever become as highly feminized as it has become without video games. It's simply not possible.
When you look at highly evolved men, the true alphas of the human race, you'll find that to a man, they have never played video games and find the very idea utterly degenerate. I myself am such an evolved man. I lift weights, don't care about sex and don't waste my time with women. I am actively trying to improve myself and don't give a fuck about "normal people."
Bullshit if you have played videogames or not makes no difference short for the fact that most insanely rich people are older than the digital revolution and resent the progress that leaves them behind. Take muh shkreli as counter example. That faggot streams on a semi regular basis and still runs his own company worth now likely in exess of a billion. So what about you loser? What do you have to show for you "highly evolved man"? You see I would argue feminization isnt just a hormonal issue but also one of ideals. You can claim you hate degeneracy all you want and lift god knows how much but you are still a bitch too cowardly do delve into the fantastic. But why does it strike you as effeminate to not be a cog in another mans company, to not crave validation or not even give a second fuck what some bitch who dont need no man thinks?
To me you dont sound like a mans man but anothers bitch.
William Garcia
Video Games are up there with watching porn, anime, tv series, sports and movies
Absolutely disgusting, I'm glad I'm cured of this shit, literally years wasted
Jacob Perez
>armenia Only cure for you is in the syrian desert.
Carter Martin
There is no need to show how violent your culture and religion are, Mehmet
Julian Rivera
>culture I wouldnt call it that but seriously blaming video games is as retarded as blaming TV instead of the producers or consumers enforcing a garbage market or is the potential of the industry really lost on you?
Jayden Turner
>Instead of actually working to improve yourself, you get to feel good about your weak, flabby body by Posting on a image board about how you're race is superior
Anthony Miller
Holy shit, you actually found a way to make exercising sound fedora. I'm impressed.
Colton Price
>So what about you loser? What do you have to show for you "highly evolved man"? I have gained 14 lb of muscle in the past year alone, despite being diagnosed with HIV in February. I was also promoted to asst. manager of my coffee shop, which gave me a 20 percent raise. Let me know when you increase your income by 20 percent by working your ass off, cuck.
>You see I would argue feminization isnt just a hormonal issue but also one of ideals. Great. Does that explain why women are being raped in the streets of your soon to be third world shithole country in massive numbers while you do nothing about it?
>You can claim you hate degeneracy all you want and lift god knows how much but you are still a bitch too cowardly do delve into the fantastic. 33 year old virgin obsessed with My Little Pony: The post.
>But why does it strike you as effeminate to not be a cog in another mans company, to not crave validation or not even give a second fuck what some bitch who dont need no man thinks? Please spend less time on video games and more time learning English.
>To me you dont sound like a mans man but anothers bitch. I'm openly gay and still more of a man than you'll ever be.
The best men from your country died in WWII. Only the cowards lived long enough to reproduce.
Liam Reed
fuck all these haters OP you are 100% right
Luis Diaz
All forms of media including games are x2 degenerate, first for being filled with marxist propaganda and second for tricking you into believing that it's a fun activity while draining your precious time
Carson Turner
>Absolutely disgusting, I'm glad I'm cured of this shit, literally years wasted Agreed. It's like a cancer that eats you from the inside out. It's part and parcel of a bigger disease called liberalism.
I don't post about race.
Hit the gym, fatass. You're the kind of guy that gives Americans a bad name. Instead of acknowledging that you need to change, to strive to better yourself each and every day, you sit around and talk shit about those that do. Get on my level. Seriously.
Thank you. >All forms of media including games are x2 degenerate Again, agreed.
Christopher Morris
> I have gained 14 lb of muscle in the past year alone, despite being diagnosed with HIV in February.
You are living dead. Literally.
Ethan Cooper
neither do gamers. your last statement fucked over your pathetic rant.
Christopher Anderson
You have a limited amount of time in life, the point is to figure out what you will do. Unless you are saving lives and or reducing suffering, you are the degenerate.
Jayden Garcia
Okay a few reasons why this is myopic and retarded.
First, you seem to think you can't play video games and be fit. This really just reflects on your failure to manage time effectively more than anything, you can do both and you're just making excuses.
Second, video games are an interactive simulation of literally anything you can imagine. While I won't disagree that a man child who plays call of duty all day is stupid, I will dispute that video games are bad in general. I learned quite of bit of digital logic through games like Hardware engineering, TIS-100, and Shenzhen I/O. I learned some car basics in car mechanic simulator and I've learned some basic physics in Kerbal Space Program. They are plenty of games that offer hands on learning experiences that you cannot deny as being good for the brain.
There are also a bunch of studies showing cognitive performance improvements across the board when comparing gamers to non gamers but that's another post for another time.
In short, it's no surprise that some vain insecure faggot who just wants to act conceited on an anonymous image board is as stupid and narrow-minded as you are.
Mason Brooks
How it happened?
Gabriel Cook
yes. the vast majority of video games are also bad for your brain and lead to a reduction in grey matter.
the more time you spend sedentary the less you're able to cope with stress. that's an actual fact. you need to be out there exercising and engaging your brain in a meaningful way. you don't have to work as a cog in some man's machine but you need to be actively improving yourself. so you "could" do the n33t dream of learning to play the piano, learning other languages, keeping fit, the problem is most neets frankly do not do that and most of the time improving themselves comes from fruitless activities like increasing their gear scores in a mmorpg.
i'd like to start seeing limits imposed from government on gaming like what china does. at least a small attempt. no man should be spending more than 2-3 hours a day playing video games. fuck, 2-3 hours was a lot back in my day, reserved for winter storms and when outdoor activities just wouldn't be pleasant. today, 2-3 hours is considered "casual" and something these sad feminized millennial manchildren are occasionally limited to as a punishment.
basically the gist is your brain adapt to a new method of navigation using the reward center instead of using spatial memory. basically causes spatial memory to atrophy.
Julian Harris
fuck off nanny state faggot
Andrew Morris
Trumps probably going to repair gender relations around the same time Star Citizen gets released, you faggots better choose your grilfriend/wife over that game no matter how fun it is.
Xavier Nelson
>HIV >Works in a coffee shop
What the fuck are you doing on Sup Forums my mane?
Gabriel Price
yeah it is a bit nanny state yeah we'll just leave it to social consequences you will always be absolutely revolting, lazy, irresponsible losers that unfortunately society will end up looking after in the form of taxes but whatever, at least you were free to do it, just like fat people are free to gorge themselves until they can't walk, smokers, and the like
Carson Barnes
>pretend to be Zelda
dude, go kill yourself
Parker Reyes
Doesn't care about sex or "normal" people. When did you first realise you were depressed and sociopathic OP ?
Anthony Hughes
look at all these fatmericans panicking DONT U SAY SHIT ABOUT MY VIDEOGAMES
holy fucking losers lmao
Isaac Green
I think it depends on the game genre. I for one think real time strategy along with turn based ones are great for improving your intelligence. And games like Cod are only good for improving reaction speed. The worst thing about games in my opinion is that they have the most entertainment value where a movie lasts 2 hours and your done a game can last 1000s if you like it enough. Its all about not doing something too much and knowing you are dependent on it as a release.
Nathaniel Reed
yes
if it wasn't for video games I'd probably be doing a phd right now have a wife and be an expert rock climber
Thomas Lopez
OP got his dick diseased and is now dying from HIV while he looks down on people enjoying their free time and relaxation with a nice pass time video game on to the next thread lads nothing to see here you fucked up stickin that rod into boi pucci mate you gonna die a horrible death now
Noah Foster
Video games are meme magick
>Watch dogs 2 >Dead sack (implicating a removed sack and kept into a beaker) >use hacking instead of guns >agressive females pedestrians >Gay pony's and flag everywhere >Gay clothes
When masses play this game everything that they see will become a part of their psyche, then millions of those psyches will merge together and manifest on physical plane.
Angel Gray
I don't have a GED or anything in my mid 30s and I'm too old to start from the absolute bottom. Thanks vidya for the escapism this dismal life has to offer.
Brody Jones
You sound like a fuckin loser lmaooo
Dominic Clark
Wow you sure showed me. I wonder if you even can address my point or if pointing out gramatical errors truly is the height of your argumentation. Id call you a bitter and unsuccessful faggot craving calidation in whoms mind everyone disagreeing with him are nothing more than overgrown children watching kids shows but I think you know that already. That is fucking retarded. A medium is inanimate and simply a tool or are you gonna give us the same lecture on how guns are sentient vessels seeking out the death of pregnant women? Every form of art needs a meduim be it a canvas, marble, a language or film. Saying Media is inherently degenerate only goes to show that you dont understand what media is let alone degenerate as video games are quite literally the technological climax of any medium to date and as a vessel or if you want a fucking impossibly be moral.
Sebastian Lopez
You posted this AIDS on r9k too.
Tyler Martin
*if you want a fucking tool
Jordan Thomas
>I don't give a fuck guys, I'm actively improving myself day in and day out, which is why I sit on the computer making threads about how much I despise people who play video games. Am I cool yet guys?
Asher Martin
>every american poster >but guys i'm 1/64th irish >it's just a sun tan >I-I-I r-r-really hate n-n-niggers gtfo stupid fucking niggers
Lucas Evans
Social media is much more degenerate than videogames
Nathan Sanchez
>neither do gamers Yes, they do. They just don't have the balls to admit it. Troll.
I've evolved beyond that nonsense and evolved beyond video game faggotry as well. And it's time you joined me, beta male.
>Unless you are saving lives and or reducing suffering, you are the degenerate. I volunteer with the sick and elderly all the time and have been doing so since the seventh grade. Can you say the same?
I owed some people money, couldn't pay the debt, yada yada, yada. Next thing you know I have HIV. I only let one of them fuck me but I guess it was one too many.
Let's see you make me, tough guy. Oh right, I forgot, you're too busy slapping it to Ms. Pacman.
Degenerate.
Camden Powell
Its just entertainment. A distraction. No different than goybook or making shit threads on a chink chubby chasing forum.
Luis Allen
Like posting on a anonymous basket weaving forum is a good use of your time.
Austin Morgan
I play Red Faction: Guerrilla and Men of War because I love blowing shit up. I could watch retarded TV shows instead like my countrymen that doesn't have that much shit blowing up, so I'd likely be more depressed. Would you rather have me channel my inner American into making real bombs? Fuck off m8.
Luis Gomez
The article states that "some" gamers have this problem. If you were to simply think about this and read my original post, you should see an obvious difference between a game that doesn't require spatial memory and one that does. I highly doubt people who play Shenzhen I/O aren't using their spacial memory for example, as that game along with many other puzzle games, are very reliant on using memory. The problem with just going "gamers" is this completely ignores that the types of games they play which influences their Neuroplasticity dramatically. Basically, call of doody vs pretty much any Zachtronics game will have very different results. Lumosity is a great example of how you can essentially exploit gaming to improve in memory, reaction times, coordination, and so forth. I'm in the 99th percentile for memory for lumosity and you can always improve, even by using video games. Look into the memory palace technique to acquire even more memory. The brain has several types of memory and using relative memory is probably the best method. Such as memories that are literally triggered by something else, like a smell or a word. This is essentially the foundation of the "memory palace" technique which is used by those who are said to have "photographic" memories.
Within these articles you can find links or references to the studies which you can simply Google, much like with anything else.
Brayden Ortiz
youtube.com/watch?v=7sKz8RHYOI8 Any study can be doctored, you should know this by now, and given (((their))) positions, I'm more than positive that the pro-gamer articles are the doctored ones, they'll push out all the positives they can find without mentioning the negatives that outweigh them. When you play games your brain is in a low functioning state When you play games you waste your time that could be spent on something productive When you play games your brain is addicted the exact same way as if it was heroin When you play games your brain is demotivated and you don't want to succeed in life Gamers are some of the most boring and bluepilled people I've ever met, they're years behind their peers intellectually. It's the same thing everywhere, studies about masturbation being good for you that only list the slightly reduced chance of prostate cancer without listing all the negatives.
The correct word to depict gamers is not degenerate The correct word is sad
Jace Gonzalez
Checked out the sciencealert article Absolute nonsense, it claims that the best gamers in the world have more grey matter than average humans and makes an illogical assumption that it's because they've played games a lot, even though it's almost undeniable that they became the best in the world since they were smarter in the first place, not the other way around
It's like you don't even read the papers, just the title
Thomas Reyes
Do you also think chess is degenerate?
Do you also think reading a book is degenerate?
Ryan Murphy
>don't care about sex and don't waste my time with women. >despite being diagnosed with HIV in February It all makes sense
Brayden Harris
That's a lot of claims there and no proof, even for a semitic people.
Jace Cruz
The livescience article >>Natalia Kowalczyk, a graduate student in neuropsychology at the University of Social Sciences and Humanities in Warsaw, Poland, and lead author of the study, which has not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal. >A fucking female kid >from a marxist fake degree university (ad homs end here) >>not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal >the entire claim revolves around the false idea that correlation = causation Look, she even agrees >>It isn't clear whether this greater amount of gray matter existed in these men before they began gaming, or whether it is the result of their gaming. The natural assumption is fucking obvious, winners keep on playing, while losers drop the game. All the low grey matter people that tried to play starcraft just stopped playing because they kept on losing
Sorry, I'm not even going to read the third article
Luke Watson
Aside from my anecdotal example of gamers being boring and bluepilled everything can be confirmed by studies you can find in 10 seconds by searching the keywords in google
Seriously, google the ones you're interested in, it's not fucking hard but it can change your life Chess is degenerate, absolutely, smart people are forced to waste their genes on playing a fucking monotone game for years, they could've been scientists or innovators, but they are not. It's slightly better than gaming since your brain isn't in a low functioning mode when you play chess, but that isn't much. Fictional books are as degenerate as movies (((Science))) books are even more degenerate )))science((( books are fine
Jacob Perry
We're in a video game right now dumbass. We will wake up and make funnof our friend who became a terrorist in sim earth 40,000
Jordan Stewart
>Aside from my anecdotal example of gamers being boring and bluepilled everything can be confirmed by studies you can find in 10 seconds by searching the keywords in google >Do my work for me goym
>Chess is degenerate >Books are degenerate
Congrats everything is degenerate. Now since everything is degenerate, why are you here?
Thomas Morris
And from my own anecdotal experience I am way happier and more motivated after quitting games, just like before I started playing them. Not to mention all of the free time I have now that I spend on things that are way more entertaining and educational, like even browsing Sup Forums
Carson Cook
>Do you also think chess is degenerate? Chess is possibly the biggest waste of intelligence in the world, outside of a gender studies classroom. People who have the intellect to go into hard science and cure cancer instead dedicated their time to a board game. A fucking board game!
Why is chess so popular, anyway? You'd almost think there was some force behind the chess community pulling the strings and blue pilling the masses into thinking it's some sort of great intellectual pastime.
Look at the list of the supposed "greatest" players of all time and you'll realize who owns and controls the chess world. The tournament directors, players, teachers, writers, et al. are diamond merchants and their degenerate lackeys.
Reading books is great, depending on the book. Read physics and practice physics, awesome. Read about the patriarchy and stage a demonstration in a public park? Not so awesome. In fact, action should be taken against you and your coconspirators to ensure you never disrupt the public with your Jew bullshit ever again.
James Jackson
>Instead of actually working to improve yourself, you get to feel good about your weak, flabby body by pretending to be Batman or Zelda for hours on end. >He says on an anonymous Internet message board pretending to be a savior of the white race.
John Jackson
Strawman Reading/watching non-fictional/educational stuff and participating in/reading discussions is not degenerate, I enjoy my stay at Sup Forums >do my work for me goyim Absolutely, if you were really interested in my claims you would've googled it anyways
>Captcha:Arroyo
Oliver Mitchell
>pretending to be a savior of the white race. I'm not even white, you stupid faggot. Are you blind as well as stupid?
Charles Gutierrez
>Faggot >Nonwhite >Bug chaser WEW I can't discard your opinion fast enough
Owen White
Sup Forums is not Sup Forums. Even though we are in a sea of lemmings, there are lots of independent thinkers here
You might be surprised Schlomo, but there are people here who decided to spread their genes after swallowing the red pill, we are not "pretending" to be the saviors of the white race.
Lucas Allen
>Reading/watching non-fictional/educational stuff and participating in/reading discussions is not degenerate, I enjoy my stay at Sup Forums
So what about games that simulate real life stuff. Like wargames, simulators and such?
>Absolutely, if you were really interested in my claims you would've googled it anyways
If you were really interested in making the claim you would provide proof.
Aaron Wright
If you're black you can save the white race by not spreading your genes You can save the white race by spreading the message You can save the white race by exposing the jew You can save the white race by leaving the white countries/not leaving your native country
People of all races are in this together.
Owen Hill
>we are not "pretending" to be the saviors of the white race. So instead of doing things that actually benefit the white race (getting you wife pregnant, building a stronger family), you decide to shitpost on an anonymous Sudanese yodeling forum? Truly you are the last hope for the white race.
Cameron Taylor
Oh and i forgot the most important thing >Armenians >White
Henry Price
>So what about games that simulate real life stuff. Like wargames, simulators and such? Only the ones that help you out in real life, like say driving/flying/war simulations that are regarded as practice for real life experiences. A Grand strategy game is absolutely useless for you, you might learn a few historical facts, but that's it. >Who is more interested crap My claims are true, google it or don't, I don't care, I'm not interestined in wasting my time to find studies you're probably not going to read anyway
Juan Evans
Smart Phones and Social Media are the worst things to hit the world EVER. Worst than the Black Plague. Who agrees? If you aren't old enough to remember adult life before that shit then sorry.
>assistant manager >starbucks >$40k->$50k >20% raise >work ass off >coffee shop I make coffee every morning, does that make me a hard worker?
Oliver Diaz
I'm aware that there are ethnicities that are genetically superior than mine, it doesn't change the fact that by spreading my Armenian genes I'm raising the average global IQ and stopping the jew, not to mention that my children are going to be redpilled on top of it.
People that push the "don't spread your genes if you're not fully white" narrative are fucking D&C shill kikes. If only the chosen whites like West Euros/Scandis spread their genes we are going to be doomed in no time Yeah, because I'm not doing anything but posting on Sup Forums, right? Not to mention that I'm saving the white race even right now, I am actively redpilling newfags that are subverted by shill propaganda, even right now.
Jacob Martinez
If you don't reply to this post with your favorite vidya within 10 seconds, you don't know SHIT about politics.
Robert Walker
>I owed some people money, couldn't pay the debt, yada yada, yada. Next thing you know I have HIV. I only let one of them fuck me but I guess it was one too many. um, anyone else see this?
Jackson Sanchez
Eh, I think they're nice to get your mind off things once in a while. Competitive gaming, on the other hand, seems delusional. No way you can earn a standard living just by competing in vidya alone, which is why many turn to streaming and such. Even then, you're pretty screwed financially if you aren't popular.
Daniel Campbell
Yes OP is a nigger faggot which is probably why hes run away from his thread.
Connor Rogers
What? I'm still here. I've responded to every relevant post. Pay attention, faggot.
Ever heard of hard times, user? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, as Moses said.
Jason Bailey
>Be nigger >Be nigger faggot >Be nigger faggot with HIV >Be nigger faggot with HIV bragging about his dead end barista job >Be nigger faggot with HIV bragging about his dead end barista job who still believes in ancient Jewish fairy tales Holy fuck im LMFAOing at everything about you
Luke Walker
>If you're black you can save the white race by not spreading your genes Not interested in women or reproducing with them. >You can save the white race by spreading the message >You can save the white race by exposing the jew Way ahead of you there. >You can save the white race by leaving the white countries/not leaving your native country I prefer to stay where I am rather than move to a country filled with niggers or other shitskins. I get called a coon for saying it but most blacks are just violent nigger trash. I don't want to be around them either. No one with an IQ above room temperature wants to live in a black country, including red pilled black people.
>Social media is much more degenerate than videogames I missed these posts earlier but I agree. Is it any wonder Facebook was created by a Jew?
Jaxson Peterson
>I myself am such an evolved man. I lift weights, don't care about sex and don't waste my time with women. I am actively trying to improve myself and don't give a fuck about "normal people."
*tips fedora and sips protein shake*
Nathan Russell
Cuck
Austin Green
I still play vidya whenever I'm bored but it is definitely a degenerate lifestyle. I had to deal with 10 years of playing vidya which hindered my social skills and overall image. When I got /fit/ everything changed.
Now I scoff at Sup Forums manchildren. They will never learn and always will be fat
Kayden Rodriguez
LOL here
Juan Parker
>Have HIV and am gay >I'm a man Pick one
Jonathan Wilson
>Intelligence >Gender Studies Pick one
Bentley Fisher
>talking shot about anime That was your last mistake, Gago.
Austin Russell
no TV is.
Grayson Cruz
>lifting >improving yourself
holy shit no, lifting is the most degenerate of all exercises. If you do not do actual healthy things like swimming or other endurance activities and instead just pick up heavy things you're doing nothing but masturbating.
I bet you even pump your body full of garbage to get a few more pounds in too. Sad.
Come work out like a real man.
Aiden Carter
lol have fun improving the last 5 years of your life coal burner
Zachary Wilson
There's nothing wrong spending alot of time on vidya desu. There's nothing wrong with spending alot of time on anime either desu.
The real world sucks anyway desu.
Tyler Howard
Its our need to find the shortest path to the goal. We end up creating virtual success because its easier then real success.
Also might be foreshadowing actually living in vr. There is a theory that we don't see other life in the universe because the natural path is to turn inward creating virtual spaces once technology reaches that point. As in our biologolical drives get short circuited driving lifeforms to create virtual methods to satisfy themselves rather then continuing to push outward in the real world.
Cameron Lewis
yeah but so is wasting your time on this website pretending to better yourself by being """red-pilled"""
William Turner
Most degenerate things: TV, Then Video Games, then 4chin. In that order
Eli Lee
See Also, every point about being manly with the result of said men not procreating seems rather moot.
I also think video games have little to do with this. Now we just have more focus on exactly how large a proportion of each western country allows for manchildren to thrive rather than die from being thrown out to the wolves.
This is both good and bad.
Blake Nguyen
MODS, DELETE THIS THREAD
Robert Rogers
>Instead of actually working to improve yourself, you get to feel good about your weak, flabby body by pretending to be Batman or Zelda for hours on end.
I know its great, fuck you OP. :)
Joseph Myers
fuck I despise that fucking dipshits face. Watters and his eyebrow can fuck off.
Isaiah Edwards
Video games are shit but I don't care. My life would be markedly less good if I hadn't played Secret of Mana, Terranigma, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 7, Super Mario 64, Street Fighter III etc.
Unless you're a Spartan (no one here is, you're all faggots, these types of people don't exist in real life anymore) then it's not a big deal to find a good balance between leisure and working hard. If you can sit aside a few hours in the year to play a really good game (they don't make them anymore) and every other day of the year is spent pursuing more productive endeavours, it's not an issue, like all forms of entertainment.
Julian Gomez
>I myself am such an evolved man. I lift weights
Lifting weights doesn't really do anything positive for you. If you were serious about actually getting tough, you'd build up a PT regimen following Special Forces routines.
Lifting weights just makes you an easily trampled show-off.
PS: using Sup Forums is worse than playing vidya.
Oliver Phillips
You can't handle the truth, can you? Have I triggered you so easily? Find a safe space and hide, snowflake. I'm not going anywhere.
>The real world sucks anyway desu. It only sucks because of degenerate cucks like you not making it better. Feel ashamed. Then resolve to be more than what you are.
"I AM NOT A MAN! I AM DYNAMITE!" --Nietzsche
>yeah but so is wasting your time on this website pretending to better yourself by being """red-pilled""" I only post here once a month, if that. I'm a busy guy. You see, like any alpha, I'm a tough guy to peg. I'm a bit of everything; a savant and true renaissance man. Who am I? A businessman. A humanitarian. An athlete. An athlete. A man of many hats. But in a nutshell, I'm just one man--the savior of western civilization.
>I know its great, fuck you OP. :) For a price, Batman. For a price.
Nolan Price
As much as I want to agree OP, you are wrong. Intentionally cutting out things that you enjoy, because they are "degenerate" is not a good idea. That's not to say becoming obsessed with video games is a good thing, but a couple hours a week is not a big deal.
Not allowing yourself to have any relaxation or enjoyment is setting yourself up for burnout. Life is about balance. You need to find a balance between relaxation and hard work
