So my sisters bf is a vegan, and now she's buying into this retarded diet.
To clarify, he's a vegan for environmental reasons, not dietary, but yet he still feels the need to make separate food and shit when he comes to our house (I actually like the guy, he's a good dude, but I'm less keen on the vegan meme)
She claims its way better for the environment than cutting fossil fuels or whatever because it means less cows (methane) and less rainforests cut down for cattle grazing.
What are some good arguments against veganism? I need to redpill her away from this shit
Explain veganism is bigotry and why does she allow animal privilege to protect one form of life while allowing plants to be slaughtered?
Daniel Cooper
Driving a car and using electricity have infinitely more of an impact on the environment, so unless she goes full ascetic and lives in a fucking cave eating tubers, she's just virtue signalling to feel better about herself.
The amount of industry required behind every single modern service and invention she uses is more damaging than a thousand carnivores. If she won't give up her smartphone and make up and other garbage, she should stop being a fucking hypocrite about food.
Juan Ramirez
Nothing you can say to her will change it. She'll follow her mans ideology. Change his mind or break them up I guess
Thomas Mitchell
Don't worry about it. Women are supposed to go along with their men. She's influenced by him as she's supposed to be, because she respects him for other reasons. Would you want your wife to accept your political positions that you post on \pol?
Aaron White
>Less rainforests cut down
When was the last time you saw "made in Brazil" on your beef?
Blake Nelson
Quit your bitching OP and grow up. You and 75% of the cucks on this board still act like children, always expressing so much ignorance and never respecting the choice of others.
Don't you have anything more important to worry about than what someone eats?
Owen Gonzalez
It's none of your business and it should not matter to you. She literally hurts no one.
Brandon Robinson
Pretty sure I have a few tins of corned beef that are from Brazil.
Aaron Peterson
>Driving a car and using electricity have infinitely more of an impact on the environment, but that's fucking wrong you retard. Agriculture makes up easily 60% of greenhouse gas emissions read a book you faggot
Benjamin Rivera
Yeah I don't eat canned meat so I wouldn't know where that stuff comes from.
Nolan Nguyen
Well, environmental reasons for being vegan are a lot more sensible than moral ones. There's nothing wrong with it as long as you're getting enough protein and you aren't spending a lot of money.
They sound very well-informed on the issue. Why does it matter to you?
Jace Perry
>wtf why are you recycling even though you have a car that creates pollution >virtue signalling much??
Robert Young
A vegan diet can be understandable if it's for dietary reasons. It's actually healthy as fuck IF you do it right and get your protein in and don't become a husk. Environmental vegans are fags though
Colton Bailey
It's not better for the environment or for animals. This isn't to say we can't do a better job of raising and killing livestock, but the answer isn't automatically "go vegan to save the planet."
Tell her that she doesnt need to give a fuck about animals to be vegan. A 90% egan based diet will make her healthier and live longer thats all
Evan Perry
No it isn't "healthy as fuck." It's like driving a car with your feet. Yeah, you can probably do it safely if you practice and try really hard, but that doesn't make it optimal or desirable.
Daniel Cook
>less rainforests cut down People still believe in this shit?
Parker Sullivan
It's quite the opposite, in fact.
A proper vegan diet with exercise is like a Formula 1 racecar running on top-tier fuel. I'm not a vegan but I respect those who are. It is a difficult but rewarding lifestyle.
Luis Rogers
No, you are wrong. You're comparing people who consciously choose to eat vegan because they believe it's healthy, thus spend a lot of effort to ensure they cover alll the bases as far as nutries go, and they exercise, meditate, etc. Then you make the rookie mistake of lumping in all carnivores into one group and comparing them to these elite fitness vegans. Meanwhile your average vegan has nowhere the health of your average carnivore. 83% of vegans are B12 deficient vs. 5% of omnivores You'd have to eat 1.3kg of spinach to get the same calcium in a 240ml glass of milk. Vitamin D levels are 74% lower in vegans compared to omnivores. Zinc absorption is much lower in vegan diets necessitating eating 50% more. Vegans have 50%-60% lower EHA and DHA then omnivores.
Jose Young
Chickens don't emit any greenhouse gases, it's virtually just cattle that release methane and are incredibly energy inefficient.
William Wright
It's why I said a proper vegan diet. I'm not wrong.
Lincoln Reed
Vs. a proper omnivore/carnivore diet and you're wrong. It's not optimal or better. Apples to apples.
Leo Rodriguez
That's fair.
Dominic Walker
>She claims its way better for the environment than cutting fossil fuels or whatever because it means less cows (methane) and less rainforests cut down for cattle grazing.
just research the stats yourself In a first world nation, cows are a minority of GHG
maybe I can find something about UK
Matthew Robinson
>Vegetarians thinks vegans are muslims >vegans think vegetarians are muslims What?
Juan Moore
Explain to him that millions of rodents and birds have died in the farming industry so you can have your vegetables. Not to mention the billions of insects but I guess that's not important to you unless because you can feel superior to meat eaters.
The only real choice is to grow your own food but you're too lazy to commit to something that requires effort. Then spit in his face.
Connor Gray
The first thing you have to tell her is that environmentalism is shit as long as environmentalists aren't talking about massive genocide of Africa and Asia, the main sources of environmental pollution of every kind that are overpopulated far beyond their economical and environmental ability yo sustain the population and yet they are still growing.
Grayson Cruz
Book called "The Vegetarian Myth" written by a lesbian eco-warrior. Her heath was being destroyed by a vegetarian diet. Has the first chapter of the book on her website:
Cows eat more plants then we do, they also drink more water, and need more land then plants. So when you eat an animal you also have to think about the [plants that the animal ate. Also plant don't have a central nervous system which means they cant feel emotions or pain, unlike animals.
Agriculture (including livestock) is the black bars
Jason Ortiz
Everytime that someone in Sup Forums open a thread with "my sister..." my cuck alert activate.
WHY you can't control your own fucking sister?
Gavin Howard
Environmental reasons are still moral in the end, because it makes no dent if first worlders eat meat or not. It's akin to saying "we need to eat algae and worm because of world hunger".
David Myers
>rewarding
rewarding how? low meat and medium dairy is superior to veganism in almost all studies and according to most nutrition specialists. I will trust them over zealots
Oliver Thomas
Homosexual vegan detected. Fuck off back to the commune faggot.
Logan Jenkins
actually agriculture is more responsible for climate change than cars due to methane being far more damaging to the ozone layer than co2.
Logan Gray
Fucking kidding me?
Explain to them that the only reason they can have a vegan diet is because of the existence of the society and infrastructure that they are against. That they are wasting time, money, and energy, both theirs and others, into separating foods, seeking vegan food, and taking supplements to not fucking die from their shitty diet. Instead they ought to use that time, money and energy into making a real difference in the environment like funding science to fix this shit or bombing these meat corporations if its making them so sick that they have to take a stand against food.
Fucking food, FOOD, shit you eat not to die! They should be so lucky to not have to worry about starvation let alone be allowed to flaunt that red pilled vegan shit for ENVIRONMENTAL reasons.
Isaiah Martin
do it the slav way
when her bf is at your house start an argument like say this vegan bullshit is gay as hell and that he's a pussy
if he takes the bait beat the bejeezus out of his scrawny ass
She will be mad as hell at you but inside she will lose all respect for her bf who failed to display masculinity and she will drop him like a stone
tried and tested on my sister
Grayson Morris
So don't eat beef. The eco-footprint for chicken, eggs, and fish is far lower and then you can eat an omnivorous diet as nature intended.
The real reason they're going full vegan is because they're essentially evangelical liberals. It has become like a religion for them, and making masochistic life choices is a way of credibly signalling your faith and devotion to others. You can tell because you mentioned he still feels the need to make separate food when he goes to your home, which is quite obviously increasing the environmental burden rather than decreasing it.
You won't be able to convince them otherwise. Just like you cannot convince a Muslim to eat pork.
Caleb Thompson
So who's the bottom center picture supposed to be? My first thought was Muhammad but that would be pretty out there for a vegan. Is it Judas?
Ian Bennett
Why the fuck do you care? Let the bitch eat carrots if she wants
Cooper Sullivan
It's not really a bad thing, if people want to eat different food then let them.
