NSA

Why are people so assblasted about the NSA? What does it matter if the government monitors your random bullshit conversations with whoever when the intent is to stop terrorism and prevent crime?

nice bait you fucking faggot

Let's be honest, mass data monitoring is used for a lot more than counter terrorism

If you don't mind living in a CCTV state, and have no issue with being monitored 24hrs a day there is no 'matter'

>what's wrong with a blackmail agency working on my taxes

If the government could actually monitor what the fuck was going on and people got over themselves crime could be nearly eradicated. But no, muh privacy is too important, better to let people conduct criminal activity through venues that could be tracked and monitored extremely easily so we don't trigger any pussies and have them screaming LITERALLY 1984 every second.

>encouraging people not to commit crime is blackmail

Bait. But I'll bite.

1984. No one wants to live in a place where your every move is monitored and you have no privacy. Especially when dissenting opinions are in jeopardy.

Also, there isn't anyone listening to you. It's just being stored in a huge datacenter that can be brought up at any time.

They are evil. They do bad things. It's pretty simple.

>trusting jew government

user, I...

>What does it matter if the government monitors your random bullshit conversations with whoever when the intent is to stop terrorism and prevent crime?


Because the intent isn't to stop terrorism, it's to dominate and control citizens as part of the globalist agenda.


You should stop believing everything the government says when it pisses on your leg and claims its raining.

We are LITERALLY 1984.

Don't pretend NSA shill. Go away!!!

Go away NSA

This. They aren't here to help me or protect me. They are bad. It's not a tough call to say this.

>it's bad bcuz they are ebil

Seriously? This is the kind of crap anti-Trump people were spewing.

No no no, you are right. I must be a patriot and support my NSA overlords.

Name 1 (one) example in the United States

They aren't here for you. They'll use that to blackmail you. Why do you wanna get blackmailed? The us govt has a history of being horrendous,what makes you think it's gonna change now? Muh tax dollars going to fat virgins staring at a computer screen so they could find Muhammed, when in reality we should be using that money to fix our roads and to ban abortion clinics and gay marriage.

it's either nsa or my brother fucking with the router

Be wise it's not their place to do so. I'd rather li e free and dangerous than """"" safely""""" and under chains and cameras.

>to stop terrorism and prevent crime

This is the part that's debatable.

Not that much of a stretch from "Honest policing" to monitoring for thought crime.

>What does it matter if the government is watching your every move
Hey there NSA, how you doing this fine day?

i wonder which nsa employee has had the misfortune of looking at all the robot porn I jerk off to

How well-read are you on the history of CIA/U.S. government operations and human experiments both on our own soil and abroad? Our government has done things comparable, and sometimes worse than Nazi Germany and yet nobody knows about it. The first step is understanding that there is no "good vs. evil" with the U.S. on the side of justice no matter what. When Nazi Germany fell, another empire rose to take it's place, our means of dominating the globe are simply less overt, just like the forces that dominate us.

It's the NSA.

Name one instance of a terrorist attack being stopped by the NSA... You cant, doesn't exist.

It's not like they'd create terrorism...

That's not part of there buisness.

Because Snowden is the prime example of what could happen, they know everything and if one of their agents decides to go rogue but instead of exposing the truth they will sell important infos to whoever dangerous there is your life or even country is done for.

>robot porn

>It's not like they'd create terrorism...

that's a suspiciously specific denial...

You weren't being sarcastic were you?

it's this one
what the fuck happened to (you)s

I have absolutely no idea what is wrong with mass surveillance

None of these institutions create terror or mass shootings...

*cough* ISIS *cough* Al Quedia* *cough* Bin Laden*

>Why are people so assblasted about the NSA?
Because it costs untold billions of dollars? Even if they can sift through as much data as they collect is sure as fuck doesn't seem to be benefiting the average Joe. It seems like an awful waste of time and money just to get blackmail material as well, people usually just shoot themselves twice in the head or accidentally ingest polonium 210 anyway

>it's this one

Ah, you were being literal.

Cool, you don't mind strangers having access to your private information? Why not dump a few of your e-mail accounts and passwords on here then and backup your belief.

Captcha: pizza images.

it's also the kind of crap pro-trump people were spewing, because it is accurate

We don't find terrorism, we just fund """"moderate rebels"""". Like Osama Bin Ladin the anti Soviet freedom fighter.

What, no sir. Hi pca, nice to see you again.

Just wait until alt right becomes a terrorist organization.

yeah
it has really nice legs

Its gay.

>what the fuck happened to (you)s
The jews. Some anons were accumulating more than their fair share of (you)s, that's not how true communis..I mean socialism works, we are all equal now goy

It violates my 4th amendment right to be protected from unreasonable search and seizures.

Neither do I. It's nothing like the Nazi's. Not at all. Not sir. Thank you for your protection and guidance.

Soon posting jokes here will get you jail time. Look at what happened to lexplorer

Yeah it's really worked wonders stoping Orlando, San Berdino and other mass shootings. Also Where is the Orlando shooters wife?

Oh and one more thing, we're paying for it.

> "Nothing to hide, nothing to fear, goy."
It's like you want a police state.

Honestly, I used to, but nearly every piece of main produces of chips/drives/etc. has backdoors in them. Say nothing for all the macroshit backdoors.

It's just a pointless thing to get all hissy about, the toys are already in play.

We consciously made this decision as a society about 10 years ago.

You wanted convenience, you got it.

fucking hiro
I bet he'll make up some bullshit about how they were too costly to keep

Because the average post on Sup Forums would have the security police come home to me and confiscate my computer. A friend of mine got arrested for posting racist jokes to a closed facebook group.

If you go to court the accusations against you will go public, so you better just pay the fine. They can also have you agree to not browse certain websites and if you break that promise you get a second punishment.

Because I plan to run for office someday and I know they are going to blackmail me with all my internet history.

>They can also have you agree to not browse certain websites

you are a pussy

>What, no sir. Hi pca, nice to see you again.

Good to see you too, random citizen.

>some bullshit about how they were too costly to keep
Yup, executing that extra (you) function increased the server load by 1/6trillion kWh, costing billions and creating enough waste heat to melt the polar ice caps, trust me

Daily Reminder: Snowden was removing thousands of unrelated DoD documents months before Clapper's Senate hearing.

I'm sure they are working on that.

Kinda spun out of control now, didn't it Sirs?

Cause if you're on Sup Forums and you're trying to run for office or trying to get in law enforcement you'll never get a security clearance

>Our government has done things comparable, and sometimes worse than Nazi Germany and yet nobody knows about it.

It's more that nobody will accept or care about it.

Kinda like the human trafficking, if it's gross enough, normies won't even entertain the thought.

Reminder Snowden was a CIA plant to get the NSA defunded.

>Cause if you're on Sup Forums and you're trying to run for office or trying to get in law enforcement you'll never get a security clearance

You think this could be weaponized?

like, throwing someone a trick link to a sight that gets their security clearance revoked?

Weaponized autismz??? Gah?

because people value their freedom
/thread

Great. Let me listen to every conversation you have. Including the ones you dont want anyone to hear. You know. Talking sexy with a gf. Your health problems. Ect. Cause thats what your saying.

You're still free to do whatever the fuck you want as long as it's not illegal

Literally nothing changes

>What does it matter if the government monitors your random bullshit conversations with whoever when the intent is to stop terrorism and prevent crime?


But they havent stopped any terror attacks because that would be islamaphobic. And they havent stopped any crime because that would be racist.

I don't want it leaked that I like to wear women's panties in the off-chance that I decide to run for president someday.

Go for it, it's all out there somewhere.

>Guy who was arresting charging into the White House was pulled over with 6+ guns in his car and a cartoonish map to the White House with a red X on it, and the cops let him go
>Guy was never put on a watch list or monitored, and made his rush with hardly any resistance months later

they are a neccessary evil

The problem is, there's just too much data.

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NSA/CIA posters are mad.

>The problem is, there's just too much data.

Unless you get an "Anonymous tip", right?

Sounds like it's useless for anything except (((guiding))) the hand of justice.

Do you share your entire internet and communication activity with your mother?

If not, why do you trust the government more than your own mother.

Snowden is a CIA plant to defund NSA.

NSA/CIA plz no bully. Don't hack me Langley.

They decide what's legal and illegal tomorrow. You post a troll attempt online and next thing you know you're taking in for questioning and "precaution".

Troll master-flex

Are you incapable of shame? Sirs, are you incapable of shame? Do you have any shame? We have no shame. Where do you keep your shame? May we have some of this shame? You have extra shame. I would like this shame for America. We have none and could use some.

>Fourth Amendment

The amazon echo and apple home do. They just sit and listen to your house and upload it all to the mega storage facility.

Completely and utterly, nice socialization though.

Made it so I'm not afraid of who I am, and no signaling of "you're bad and you should feel bad" will ever change that.

>nearly every piece of main produces of chips/drives/etc. has backdoors in them
Hmmm I sense a business opportunity in manfacturing those stuff and advertising as widely as possible that mine DON'T have backdoors - of course, not implying anything, mr judge

All I do with the internet is look at porn, download anime, and talk to you retards so yeah I would show her if she really wanted to see, who cares?

Also this
How are we to ever have Sup Forums governments in every country if they have our /d/ folders?

What if your insurance premiums went up because the insurance companies have access to everything you buy and you are "labeled" a bad eater. And they want to get some more money out of you for when you become diabetic.

>The problem is, there's just too much data.
Of course. That's why you only use that of particularly problematic personnel

Good stuff. I kinda get were you are coming from.

Thank you Donald.

FPBP

That is for now.

Quantum computing here we come.

That sounds perfectly reasonable, why should someone expect to pay the same for insurance as a healthy person does if they're a fat piece of shit? It's no different than a car insurance company raising insurance if the idiot crashes and gets tickets all the time.

Change that to FSB, and you'd be even closer

This.

I hope Trump guts healthcare you Zersetsung using bastards.

-_-

The whole sesame credit thing is more of a matter of when, then if.

Just needs the right authoritarian to push it.
The overshare generation will jump on it as a positive.

Good. Thank you Donald.

In the future, nobody gets to be president!!! :D

There's already two tiers of people, user.

Ones that brainlessly consume and internalize all forms of media, and ones who reach their own conclusions through intro/extrospection. Not simply assimilating any and everything shit out in front of them, because they trust the brand.

It's not really a big deal when the media handholds people on how to react to stimulus. People are literally told how to feel about certain people/places/events, and they do.

So you would be fine with a OBD computer uploading all of your driving habits straight to the insurance companies? Rolled a stop sign here, did 75 in a 60 here. I'm sure they would salivate to have that info, people would be paying out the ass for coverage.

The solution to terrorism is a white ethno-state, not 24/7 government monitoring.

It's not about what I'm fine with, it's about what's happening.

My feelings on it are irrelevant.