Drug thread

give me a good reason why marijuana should not be legal.

>sell out of state stores
>taxed at a healthy 10%
>huge burden taken off our overcrowded prison system
>money taken out of the hands of criminals and terrorists
>money made from taxes can be used to secure the border, fix our crumbling infrastructure, or fund our overcrowded school system.

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Cons: it makes you dumb as shit

OP you forgot
>no more aggressive negros/spics/wiggers roaming the streets trying to sell it

They will just sell other things.

the jews will lose money if its legal. so it stays illegal.

that kinda fits into
>money taken out of the hands of criminals and terrorists

Can confirm

I can't. It's so common right now, our countries have little to lose by legalizing it.

My issue with marijuana is that legalizing it would bring in new issues.
>recreational candies, oils, syrups must be packaged in a way that does not encourage young children to be curious of it, like cigarettes and alcohol
>marijuana intoxication is difficult to imperically measure when prompted; someone driving while high cannot be measured reliably for the amount of THC in their blood streams quickly
>legislation will need to provided to determine how citizens can or cannot grow their own marijuana

I'd like to think that a lot of them are too afraid of methheads/crackheads/heroin addicts to do that

Weed is a shit drug that makes you lazy and paranoid.

It hurts the alcohol industry and the prison industrial complex

As well, studies must be conducted to determine the affects of daily/routine marijuana use. The results of these studies must be published by the coutrie's respective governments and used to provide legislation as to the acceptable amount of marijuana use for the public.

The other, and most glaring issue with the legalization of marijuana is that other recreational and designer drugs/narcotics will have a new platform for which they can legalize off of.

>dude pot got legalized, why can't coke be legal? or meth?

Marijuana is for dopey fake rebels who want to pretend to rebel against the system whilst taking a drug which pacifies you by only making you want to take naps and eat all day.

It's for weaklings who make themselves nonthreatening and the sad thing is they don't even know it.

we should ban weed, also other unhealthy frood like burgers, fast food, candy ect. anything that can lead to physical/mental health problems right guys :^)

Yet folks still sell those designer drugs. Where there is a demand for the drug, there will be a supplier.

There is no good reason. MOST (but not all) of the people who browse this board, and this site overall who oppose the very idea of weed being mentioned were the losers in highschool who were bullied by chads who smoked pot. So they link the two and they become synonymous. Don't get me wrong, the whole "hurrrr 420 pot cures cancer" stoner culture is absolute cancer but I've seen whiny betas on here acting like just because you smoke weed you're a degenerate. I smoke by myself, have a job, don't bother anybody while I'm smoking, and I'm going to college with a few job offers why am I not allowed to smoke? If you oppose the idea of legalization because of the cringy stoner culture I can understand but if you just bitch about it because some Chad stole your girl in highschool you're a loser who shouldn't have an opinion of the topic.

We should ban porn and anime.
leads to degeneracy

Shit argument. Why not mandate and enforce government sponsered exercise programs, mental health training, lifestyles, etc?

>Legalize drugs and people governments will see a huge jump in economy!
No. Colorado's total GDP has barely changed ever since it was legalized.

we have to ban it for the CHIIIIIIIIILDREN

>every person that smokes pot MUST be a lazy faggot
>there has never and will never be a productive pot smoker

>dude pot got legalized, why can't coke be legal? or meth?
>muh slippery slope fallacy
pot has relatively few health effects compared to meth or heroin

Too much projecting and assumptions to make an argument out of this.

1) Legalize weed
2) Attempt to tax the shit out of it
3) People just start growing it in their back yards for free
4) No dealer to put the good shit in it

It makes you stupid if you use reguarly.

>b-b-b-ut its non addictive.
Do you seriously think those AY DABS LMAO people are using in moderation?

I understand its a matter of time before its legal but I believe it will steal away many peoples lives who arent mentally strong enough to not abuse.

it also makes """men""" crave cock

I just don't want it to smell pot all over the fucking place

I can almost guarentee you that in the next 50 years, we will be seeing idiots proclaim the health benefits of coke, meth, LSD, etc. The slippery slope fallacy is not false. You give these degenerates an inch, and they'll take a mile.

It's actually clinically proven to help reduce epileptic seizures and stimulate neural activity, helping to alleviate specific forms of brain cancer.

It's not a cure all, but it definitely has concretely proven medical evidence to back up its value from a medicinal perspective.

What's fucking criminal is that the DEA still has it set to Schedule 1, and that entire administration was a Nixon setup.

How is tobacco and alcohol, both killing hundreds of thousands of people annually, legal but something like cannabis isn't?

>tax weed at "healthy 10%"
>criminals therefore by default are able to sell weed for 10% cheaper.
>hurr durr we taking money out of the hands of criminals!

Or maybe it just hit too close to home and you don't have an argument. I'm not doing any projecting. I was never bullied in HS bud can't say the same for you

confirmed

What about tobacco why don't criminals sell tobacco?

I agree with this. I know too many people who say "its not addictive lol," yet have to get lit up every day just to go to work.
Just like alcohol, weed is addictive when you makebit a habit.

>slippery slope
>fallacy
GTFO

>No dealer to put the good shit in it
confirmed for never smoking weed in their life

I agree with you that it has health benefits, but in my experience people use that as an excuse to get stoned everyday.

>implying capitalism won't BTFO out of these dealers
>implying big pharma/farming companies will let anyone make money off of it

You must be retarded

Truth is that drug taxation barely makes 0.7% of the total taxes. It's a drop in the bucket.

You're right. We let the jews live, and now you fucking leafs want to live too. Fucking slippery slope.

The argument for legalization is one that less pungent varieties and blends of marijuana will become available.
I don't want to smell it everywhere either. I feel the same with cigarettes.

>give me a good reason why marijuana should not be legal.
See pic related.

They do.
Remember Eric Garner?
Remember all the cuccs who attacked the police for "hassling him" over selling "harmless cigarettes"?

How is it that all these leftists are arguing to get America addicted to a taxable narcotic?

HURRR DURRR like criminals selling alcohol for less than retail price because they sell with tax?


Fuck off

He didn't say the economy, he said taxes.

time.com/4037604/colorado-marijuana-tax-revenue/

GDP is a shitty measurement for standard of living anyway.

Oh I know there are some medical properties to it but not the "'miracle cure all drug" like lots of smelly hippies try to say. Which in turn alienates people who don't smoke and makes them think smokers are uneducated jackasses

first of all, what version of those drugs are you talking about? of course cocaine is bad for you, of course crystal meth is bad for you. but chewing coca leaves won't kill you, in fact, it can be beneficial, and amphetamines are relatively ok in small doses, the Germans in WWII wouldn't have fared as well without them. And LSD can be very psychologically beneficial or harmful depending greatly on dosage, setting, personality, etc. I don't do any of these drugs but jus sayin

>niggers stop selling shit.
What the fuck do you think they do with shit they steal?

Why SHOULD marijuana be legal?
Why should a sane and healthy person smoke that shit?

It's as good as asking sniffing glue to be legal (which it is). You consume weird chemicals and get high. Why? Is there nothing else going on in your life? Why would this particular piece of shit plant be treated differently?

Weed is not legal because people really caring about its legality are useless piece of shit, a burden to society. Have you not understood that yet?

Don't sell with tax***

See

Even if they do it isn't a big enough percentage to matter and anyways the producers of the products would step in there would be a weed industry it would practically make no sense to do it as is the case with ciggerets

Regardless of whether a few lazy miscreants decide to toke up and be worthless, it's nowhere near as severe as a meth head or a crack fiend looking for a fix. Stoners aren't violent, they aren't neurotically addicted most of the time.

And if you ban it to stop lazy chip-eaters from smoking it, you could potentially kill thousands who suffer seizures or need it as an anti-nausea medication to keep from asphyxiating on vomit from chemo.

That actually happened to someone by the way. Guy was banned from smoking which he used to keep food down while on chemo. Ended up throwing up in the bath tub and dying from it.

These are the kinds of adverse consequences of toying with the legality of a medicinal substance.

Meanwhile fentanyl is legal and has already killed a couple thousand people In the short time that it has existed

>smoke

Who said anything about smoking weed? Edibles and vaporizer for the healthy living.

> legalize and tax America's largest crop, now!

lookit all the freadom haters in this thred

Why SHOULD anime be legal?
Why should a sane and healthy person watch that shit?

It's as good as asking sniffing glue to be legal (which it is). You consume weird animation and get autistic. Why? Is there nothing else going on in your life? Why would these particular pieces of shit cartoons be treated differently?

Anime should not be legal because weebs really caring about its legality are useless piece of shit, a burden to society. Have you not understood that yet?

Fuck off faggot, you have no say what is legal and what isn't in the USA. Why are you even in this thread, estonedia?

People who smoke weed everyday are degenerate. People who drink alcohol everyday are degenerate. I don't think these are false statements. Both people are addicted to said substance, and cannot function normally without it. I am all for occational and social drinking, smoking. However, for example, if one need to drink every night after work, or smoke before work, I feel like that person is an addict, and a substance abuser who is mentally weak.

Right on time, Rabbi.

You were bullied in school weren't you

Coca leaves and amphetamines both are physically addictive on the other hand Lsd is not and the general dosage taken in ins micro grams scheduling Lsd as schedule one makes even less sense than weed even though there were successful trials with very promising results in curing alcohol addiction

They're just molecules you retarded leaf, they have good and bad effects and are used accordingly. It's not like this is secret knowledge.

Got arrested for sleeping in my car drunk yesterday, I'm not touching any more drugs or alcohol for the rest of my life.

I am where I want. Fuck off.

Aren't you yanks retarded enough without weird chemicals? Can you find my country on the map?

Legalizing weed is legalizing voluntary autism. Is that what you really need?
orly?

Those molecules can have profound effects on the human mind and its physiology, lets not ignore that.

Right you are, m'lady

There are already people who claim benefits from LSD. "Spiritual revelations" and crap. "Creativity!"

The evidence seems to imply that whatever they get, it comes at the cost of brain damage, which prevents them from seeing the continuing brain damage, until they become fairly stagnant or even dangerous people.

...

And I agree with that. I smoke twice a week, on the weekends after I'm done work and watch some movies, no harm in that. But I'm lumped into the same category of "420 blaze It" stoners who smoke everyday whenever a pot discussion comes up by beta NEETS on this site. That's all I'm trying to say

There is no scientific evidence of brain damage from Lsd stop quoting your pastor, the affects of lsd have been studied extensively with advanced mri techniques and no brain damage has been reported

>narcotic
come on

Prohibition of all drugs is retarded, but you must insulate the public from people who are on drugs.


The government should issue licenses for "drug hotels."

Users would be allowed to check in for the duration of their high and comedown.
This entire process would be taxed, with some of the taxes used for addiction treatment for those who need it.
The elimination of non violent, non property offenses will free up police manpower improving life for all.

>>marijuana intoxication is difficult to imperically measure when prompted; someone driving while high cannot be measured reliably for the amount of THC in their blood streams quickly
there should be standardized tests to measure reaction times, independent of drugs used.

being tired, distracted, old, etc. can all fuck up your reactions / ability to concentrate.
hard limits on drugs in your blood stream make absolutely zero sense, especially if you consider the issue of tolerance

Because people will get woke. Can't have that.

I can sympathize with people who want to very occasionally experience the human mind and its visual experiences it can produce when intoxicated, but I cannot when that person does so to escape reality, or becomes reliant on that false reality to feel happy, or mentally at ease. They are escapists who need real help and therapy, not drugs.

Haven't met a decent human being who cares enough about marijuana to publicly ask for its legalization.

Therefore, pot smokers are bunch of trash, they should be treated as trash and their opinions have no value. If I was a politician, I would line you dumb fucks up and shit on you, to make that point.

/bread

Alright, I understand user. I meant no harm.

Anti weed fags are hilarious. Watch out for the reefer madness!

it leads to other degenerate behaviour the enforcement of the law now is used to get bad people of the streets now

This is a good idea. I like your suggestion. Everyone has different alcohol intolerances for example, one person at BAC of 0.08 might be remarkably sober compared to one who is a light weight at that BAC.

>muh anecdotal evidence
Why is it always some unimportant loser country who makes the shitposts?

You were definitely bullied in high school

>No dealer to put the good shit in it
Like what? Hairspray?

The brain scans revealed that trippers experienced images through information drawn from many parts of their brains, and not just the visual cortex at the back of the head that normally processes visual information. Under the drug, regions once segregated spoke to one another.

Further images showed that other brain regions that usually form a network became more separated in a change that accompanied users’ feelings of oneness with the world, a loss of personal identity called “ego dissolution”.

Everyone should dose once in their life, it activates your brain's connection to the universal subconscious.

You can smoke daily at night after work if you don't pack giant Snoop Dogg bowls full.

they are starting to here in aus with our ciggy prices most other places it's not good enough profit wise

>attack country
>attack person

Well done.
But people who desperately need some kind of fucking magic plant to escape reality are still trash. I'm not god, I didn't make it so. It just is so.

It's YOUR fault. Get your shit together and become normal human being.

People shouldn't have their entire opinion on marijuana thrown put just because you think of them as not "decent." That's a very wide ranging term that has too many personal connotations to be valid.

I don't get all the hate for weed smokers. A lot of people i've known that smoke weed rarely talk about it as if it's all they do. I've known people that are successful and smoke. Alcohol is much more damaging if not used in moderation. If you find you have an addictive personality or you can't handle either in moderation, that's your fault not the drugs.

Nope weed is a psychotropic drug it's affects can be subjective with further research we might be able to qualify if certain levels of thc affect your reaction times, with alcohol it's not subjective it's not psychotropic drug its affect can be quantified to the blood concentration

lol esti is so cute

>posts picture of typical nu male pothead

Yeah, pretty faggy. Wear some fucking socks

>There is no scientific evidence of brain damage
>extensively with advanced mri techniques

Studies from people with an agenda to use it for 'psychotropic therapy' and social changes.
If you cherry pick science from doctors with an agenda, every single drug including tobacco will be called perfectly safe.

Fact is, LSD seems known to exacerbate anxiety disorders and dissociation events.
Trauma from 'bad trips' is also quite real.

Buy a gram of wax and a nectar collector


I use a dab or more a day and still have some left throughout the entire month

Your autistic attempts of a personal attack just prove my point: if you weren't a piece of shit pothead, you could probably construct an argument anyone could take seriously.

You can not. Therefore, eat my cock.

>escape reality
You obviously haven't tried pot lol.
Lemme ask you something bud, trolling aside, I go to college, I have a job, and I have a job ready when I'm done that will pay 70,000 annually starting off. How am I a loser lol? I keep to myself when I smoke, if people don't like to smoke that's ok I don't pressure them. I smoke twice a week just to relax and watch some movies or play some
Games. What exactly am I "escaping"? Why are you lumping me in with losers who don't have their shit together

>mfw rolling up a big fattie while reading these replies

I smoke everyday and make more in a week than what half you faggots make in a year.

> LSD seems known to exacerbate anxiety disorders and dissociation events.

and so can moderate amounts of caffeine.

people should be free to ingest whatever they want.

>put the good shit in it


?wot?

in america we have freedom faggot are you a commie or some shit that loves jews

Alcohol abuse leads to brain damage and epilepsy and the bad trip thing is a meme I agree it's not as straightforward a high as alcohol is but educating people rather than banning it is a better idea cause people who wanna do it will do it why encourage the mafia

And I am not cherry picking scientific evidence there is zero evidence Lsd causes brain damage