Is this show semi red-pilled whatsoever or is it a total pile of shit?

Is this show semi red-pilled whatsoever or is it a total pile of shit?

It sounds bad ass. What if the Axis powers had won the war.

anyone watched it?

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>le ebil nazi make america bad agen xd
how redpilled can this be?

The only criticism they have of Nazi society is "muh genetic purity" and if you do not belong to the Reich they do not hold their word very accountable. Quite honestly based on their showing of society in the American Greater Reich, it is an amazing society and on a level very appealing. They also try to show "pledging" ones allegence to the nation-state, the law and the leader as creepy but the hilariousness and accidental presentation of the nature has made it look very very good. Even the elimination of the genetically infirm is also shown accidentally positive. If they have are trying to portray Nazi's as "evil" the best they actually have is there is corruption within the government and its possible to be exploitable for those whom have power.

confirmed for not watching the show

The resistance fighters are all assholes and season 2 ends with a nazi saving the world from destruction.

>watching the screen jew
of course I don't watch it

It's based on a book, maybe you'll find that more your speed.

good man, I'll check it out

This show is suppose to be like fight club show people how terrible something is,but in the end the message just give a mixed signal ,and it become a glorification of the terrible thing,making appeal to people.

It is blue pilled,but only if your are a Mexican intellectual. To everyone else it is just a cool glorification of Nazism

The following is a qoute from the TV series

>but if the nazis hadn't won, the Semites would control the US

Redpilled as fuck desu senpai. Good show.

The nazi society is portrayed as basically a utopia aside from >muh racial purity

My criticism is anyone successfully invading the United States of "a rifle behind every blade of grass" America.

>inb4 hitler nuked DC
Nobody would've cared since hardly anyone lives there and states have their own capitals. Also, FDR was a terrible leader so the power vacuum would've allowed a better man to take charge of the USA.

That man's name would be John Smith and I just wrote the backstory to Man in the High Castle better than the actual writers could have ever done.

I'd say the worst part is the extermination of the ill and taking sick family members away. Not allowing those with genetic disorders to have children would be far kinder than outright killing them.

Every one of you kraut loving traitors need to be gassed.

It's bretty gud. I think they try to pull some "muh ebil nazis" shit every once in awhile, but ultimately they remain pretty neutral about it and just tell the story.

Who knows what normies think, though.

I'm honored you would spare me from the gas chamber, friend.

>unironically calling yourself an "intellectual"

CIA?

With the exception of murdering everyone they disagree with, the Nazi society is literal utopia.

Reminder that given 3 generations of control of western society, the Nazis would have created heaven on earth.

But instead we get "diversity" and all the problems that come with it. As if a diverse people are incapable of violence.

I never stated I "Loved" Nazism or said I "Support it." I was providing a critic that the style of the show is actually going counter to the point of what they, the director and screen writers, are trying to achieve.

Your strawman is silly

This show (not the book, just the show) seemingly tries to portray Nazi and Japanese America as horrible places filled with evil people. But they seem to forget most people aren't into the whole racism oppression thing and just see different societies with their advantages and disadvantages. I wouldn't say the show glorifies Nazi America because they do point to the bad or at least uncomfortable stuff (killing kids with hereditary diseases, only white people, surveillance state). But it isn't quite Hollywood tier because you kinda root for the nazis and hate the resistance.

>not knowing the Mexican intellectual meme

Go back to R*ddit you absolute fucking subhuman

I was making a descriptive claim you easily-triggered bitch

Watching it now and on episode 5 of the 2nd season. Liking it way better than the 1st so far but Julianna and jew boy are still stupid amerifats.

regardless of the statements the show is making

shit show
shit writing
shit acting
shit cinematography
watched an episode and a half and fucking dropped the shit out of it

How many other shows portray literately Hitler sympathetically?

It's good. It's kino. The only part I hate, and this is not a Sup Forums meme, is they throw in these unnecessary women that are complete morons or emotional maniacs that distract from the good plots. Annoying as all hell.

The aesthetics and sets are so god damn comfy. And the Nazi land looks pretty damn good.

Also the japs love Americana which is heart warming in a way.

Everyone but Julia is fine.

>That image

Whoever wrote this is a retard.

A soldier is loyal to his superiors, and believes the promises his leader makes, then he goes to fight for his country*le tear rolls down cheek*, and that means the leader and his cronies are only out for themselves?

Is this some sort of abstract communist propaganda or what?

Delete that image from your computer and never post it again.

>The only part I hate, and this is not a Sup Forums meme, is [Sup Forums meme]

>it sounds badass

Maybe if you're a conservadad on the wrong side of 50

Frank is shit as well

>The show somehow ends up making you hate everyone that isn't John Smith or Trade Minister Tagomi

It's pretty ok.

smiths a fag too, just less annoying than the rest

Julia was fucking awesome in second season, especially last episode
Frank turned into a total arsehole in second season

What land does Italy rule?

I really don't think it's realistic that the United States would be split in half tbqh, The japs didn't exactly do well enough to earn something as huge as that.

Pic related, My more realistic outcome

Red = Reich Territory
Yellow = Jap Territory
Green = Italian Territory
Orange = Spain territory

John Smith, Tagomi, and inspector Kido are the most enjoyable characters in the show
Juliana first season was shit but second season she was awesome
Frank was ok first season but was a total arsehole in second season
Joe is ok throughout the whole show

wouldn't spain take over South America?

Japs when USA surrendered would have went full throttle taking land west of continental divide before Germany took it

What is the show, you braindead dick?

why are the arab countries and latin american coutries not territories?

White = Coalition of Free White Nations

Haven't watched it.

But heard about it. It seems to me it's on the American History X-tier of a message backfiring spectacularly.

Even some normies in the comments are questioning whether the society is that bad.

South America was neutral during World War II, it had little to no involvement whatsoever.

The one that would've beaten up America would've been the Nazis for sure. The japs are simply too far away to go on some rush conquest very late on. They'd have to sail so fucking far with their already beaten up navy and transport shit regularly across the pacific ocean.

Yeah smith is based as fuck.

>italy getting anything

Not many. The first season was eh. But the second season was pretty worth it. It felt good to me.

Africa is basically a consolation prize, dude. It's basically saying "there was an attempt."

>implying that this would happen

Goodness gracious. The NSDAP was made up of actual people. Even the Jewish propaganda made up about secret conferences in which Himmler speaks of the "final solution(FRAUD, DID NOT HAPPEN)" has Himmler stating that the task is utterly reprehensible.

Why do we pretend like Nazis were maniacal evil robots? Those were men who died defending their homes from raping pillaging Slavic hordes.

Yes I know Germany would have beaten America, but that doesn't mean Japan wouldn't take the slither of land west of Rockies

Agreed on all counts. I didn't mind Juliana too much the first season, but she was infinitely better the second season. Her interactions with the Smith family and especially Thomas were really good.

Frank was such a shit friend in the first season too, but you sympathize with his situation more in the beginning.

OP:

I watched the whole first season.

Some thoughts:
1. Don't expect pro Nazi stormfront propaganda. It's not.
2. It does, however, paint the Nazis in a better light than the Japanese (in my opinion anyway).
3. Obviously, out of the 3 factions, The Resistance (the US opposition to german and Japanese occupation of the US), The Japs, and the Nazis, the Resistance is shown as the shows obvious "good guys"
4. It's kind of slow. Actually, quite slow. Depending on how young you are, your ADD may inhibit you from viewing it
5. It really misses the mark by not adding in more Sci Fi stuff out of a victorious post war Germany. There's brief scenes with a German Concorde like supersonic airliner, but not much else.

I liked season one. But it's something to pirate (all episodes are on BitTorrent) and watch on your laptop while laying in bed. It's not riveting television that will keep you glued to your 42" TV while relaxing on your living room couch.

The Nazis didn't kill kids with hereditary diseases.

>the Resistance is shown as the shows obvious "good guys"
Just wait until season 2.

They try their hardest to portray the Nazis as evil but they look like boy scouts compared to the Japs.

>reading the literary jew

The biggest issue is that the IJA and IJN's equipment was WW1-level. It was probably at least 15 years behind German and US technology.

Japanese industry produced totally inferior steel and was hampered by a severe lack of raw materials.

German manufacturing was technologically on par with the USA, despite being far behind in management and policy.

In terms of manufacturing per capita the USA was on a whole different level. The US was the only major player that hadn't even begun to max out our capacity.

>It's gay if the borders touch.

Oh look, theres an American here!

The IJA was definitely behind the times, probably on par with Italy.

The IJN however was very modern and fielded respectable ships and aircraft. Unlike Italy, they could focus all their industry into these sectors and get good results because they are an island nation surrounded by petty pushover powers that couldn't resist even WW1 era powers.

True, I have not seen any season 2 yet. Have about the first 5 ready to go for my flight to Thailand tomorrow.

But I think a lot of /pol tier viewers expect to turn on the show and instantly be slammed in the face with OHH MY GOD LOOK HOW AWESOME THE WORLD UNDER GERMANY WOULD HAVE BEEN!!! MUH REICH!!

The show doesn't do that at all. That scene where they have the American resistance guy they captured chained up and have beaten him nearly to death and the main SS guy casually remarks "beat him to death and throw him in the alley so his friends find him".

Use of Kind Faced Joe as an undercover Nazi spy in the Resistance.

That scene where the doctor has to inform the SS guy that his 8 year old son has a disease and will need to be put to death, but he'll cut him some slack and keep it out of the system as long as he can....

The Nazis aren't painted as great guys. To be fair, I think they are painted fairly accurately though. They're definitely shown better than the occcupying Japs.

I agree with you there, The only literal advantage the japs had was that it was island-hoping warfare. They had the upper hand as they were the attackers, and already had a good doctrine for it.

But as soon as it moved from small jungle island warfare to more bigger things, the japs simply couldn't handle the American firepower.

They were ready to do something similar on their homeland island of jungle warfare, but then nukes happend.

That quote is fake and it's not hard to kill untrained militia, it'll just cost a little more.

If soldiers are giving a shoot-on-sight order, no surrender and are sent out in raiding parties instead of military advancements, guerilla can be easily killed.

Of course, to deter more guerilla you set an example of the captured, thrown into pits of fire, crucified, hanged from the lamp-posts.

Hell, the more guerilla the more the soldiers have a job which stimulates the economy.

I watched it, especially season 2, sitting in the edge of my couch while glued to my 55" TV. Also it's free watch if you have Prime.

One of the more satisfying shows I watched every. John Smith absolutely fucking owns it.

I only hope they don't fuck it up in season 3, the resolution in S2 was good enough to leave it at that without dragging out and spoon-feeding every little insignificant loose end left.

> My criticism is anyone successfully invading the United States of "a rifle behind every blade of grass" America.

The rifles behind grasses don't matter when there is a professional army against them. Can you now successfully rebel against your government with a rifle?

The IJN lacked radar, antisubmarine capability, damage control methods, used the same inferior steel in ship armor, had numerous overloaded ships that were capsizing risks...

It wasn't good. About the only good thing that could be said for the IJN is that it utilized career sailors rather than the signing term system of the USN, even then as war dragged on the IJN's totally inadequate training methodology caused the organization to fall far behind in every area.

Fair enough.

I didn't picture it as a show that would plant you warm and comfy on a living room couch

I watched all season one on my laptop on airplanes, or laying on my back in hotel room beds.

I think it was a good show. But I wanted to caution edgy teens on here that if they expect to stand up screaming SEIG HEIL! with sweet tears of joy dripping from the corner of their eye.....

Well it's not that kinda show.

During the battle of Okinawa, IJA staff officers estimated that it would take 7 (seven!) IJA divisions(20,000~ men) to match the firepower of one USMC division(12,000~ men)

The IJA infantry squad was on paper larger than a comparable Wehrmacht or USMC or US Army infantry squad. An effort to make up for the lack of automatic and semiautomatic weapons.

I recall it was the IJN that was the first major power to fully utilise aircraft carriers, whereas everyone else mostly focused on battleships.

Into the war though America realised aircraft carriers were boss and made more.

>lacks radar
>american education

Whats more the resistance are shown to be isis tier fundamentalist murders.

The idea that the NSDAP was going to slaughter people for being sick is absolutely absurd.

I've never seen such blatant kikery and Judaic propaganda as the clowns stating "hurr accurate bad mengele nazis sew twins together and kill the sick and elderly"

What a crock.

It's good but the first episode ash falls down and this guy nonchalantly says "oh it's Thursday guess they're burning the cripples" which was cringy desu.

They're doing the same thing as every other alt-history "nazis win" timeline.
They shown a perfect society, hyper advanced, clean, efficient, ultimate.

AND THEN THE EEEEEVIL IN THE SECOND SEASON! LE OH TEH NOES! A BAD THING HAS TO HAPPEN FOR THIS WONDEROUS SOCIETY TO EXIST! LE NAZIS ARE LE TEH EVIL AND THE PROTOTOMOGANIST MUST LIBERATE OUR SOCIETY! AND DEN DEY WILL ALLS UNDERSTAND HOW LE EVILS DA NAZIOS WERES!

It's good but I don't think it's a very good representation of the what if? event it portrays of Nazi Germany developing nukes. Also unless german medical science advanced remarkably Hitler, Goebbels and Goering would've died quite early following WWII, maybe 58' or so. They were none of them remotely healthy.

Not sure if you've season one but the main SS guy has 2 x kids, a boy and a girl, about 9 ish and 7ish respectively.

The son is of course a Hitler youth member (basically takes the role of the Boy Scouts). He keeps tripping and falling at odd times.

His dad takes him to a hospital in occupied America where the doctor (a non Nazi) gives him the bad news that his kid as a heridetary disease and of course will be put down according to policy. However because of the dads high ranking SS Status the doctor will do everything he can to keep it out of the system as long as he can but it's inevitable that the kid will be put down.

>isn't triggering liberals

must be a jew approved show.

>the american pride

IT'S FICTION YOU ARENT NAZIS WAKE UP GET OUT OF YOUR BLADE OF GRASS

Nazis and Japanese are even more likable in the second season though
John Smith and inspector Kido are god tier, and Juliana is fucking based unlike first season

Italy was ahead of Japan in a lot of aircraft design. The Japanese never managed to figure out inline engines, and Japanese aviation fuel was COMPLETE shit.

The Ki-84 gained something like 40 mph top speed when using US aviation fuel compared to the shit Japanese manufacture.

Japanese aircraft relied on WW1 standards of turn radius and maneuverability rather than the heavier fighters utilized by the Luftwaffe.

The Japanese were just plain behind doctrinally and it seeped into their designs.

We'd see how good the Zero was had the US and RAF deployed their top-line fighters with their best pilots in the Philippines and Malaysia rather than the dregs of whatever was left over.

The Buffalo was a piece of shit and the Hurricane was somehow even slower than the A2M.

The Bf 109 and the Spitfire were far superior to anything the Japanese used during the war. The N1K2-J "Shiden-Kai" and the J2M and the Ki-84 were the only truly modern designs the Japanese used. The Ki-44 may have been an okay aircraft.

The Ki-61 they ended up focusing on used an inline engine made with abhorrent production standards. They broke down constantly.

>Swallowing the Socialist Jew

Daily reminder that this is what should have happened.

Yeah, and that's bullshit propaganda. Don't state that it is accurate of NSDAP policy in any way, shape, or form.

Yes, their small homeland country certainly wasn't producing enough steel, rubber, copper to keep up the production needed to keep the war stable. Hence their sudden huge expansion to get more and more resources, they just didn't have enough time to extract those resources when they occupied them.

Their standard issue, the Arisaka, is very comparable with the bolt-actions of World War 1. Slow, Clunky, Limited in many ways. Whilst the majority of American Forces had the M1 Garand, A far superior semi automatic rifle. A fair amount of Thompsons aswell.

A Jap Infantry Division vs USMC Division would 99% of the time result in a USMC win.
This is without the advantages of jungle warfare and suicidal bombing

To be honest I havent watched the second season, I don't pay for amazon kikery and I'm just assuming it follows the same pattern every single other "brave new world" style "hidden evil" show does.

Is there a bunch of annoying bullshit and liberal whining to sit through in the first season? Might give it a download

>Give the Kampuchea Saigon.
REEEEEEEEEEE

I think you're being a little too defensive of what a victorious Germany would have been like.

Hitler and Himmler weren't too found of cripples (which is what the show insinuates the son will eventually become). The doctor cites drain on the system in his comment about the policy for the kid to be put down.

Obviously if you are high up enough, exceptions can be made and maybe you and your kid get to never leave your house in the Alps.

But as a mid level SS guy stationed in occcupied America, yeah, your soon to be crippled kid will be put down.

>Turkey
>Exists
>Imblying

it's not a bad show. although being an amazon production it's lacking a bit, most notably in the special effects department, other than that it does have some subtle red pills. but don't expect too much. give it a go if only just for the setting it's not bad and gets pretty interesting as it progresses

also. if anyone here doesn't like saying OBERGRUPPENFUHRER go kys now!

Going to need a sauce mate.

I reckon that's just because the IJA and the IJN were working practically independently. Whereas the US had the all the branches helping each other, the Japanese branches fought independently with their own plans.

The IJA and the IJN hated each other.
The IJA wanted to put more resources into the China front, the IJN wanted to open a new front with America.

Really, the reason Japan lost was because the IJN got bored of being IJA support troops and wanted their own glory and so made a front in which they would be the main branch.

Suicidal bombing had no impact on ground combat.

Kamikaze tactics were actually a brilliant idea, and had similar casualty rates to conventional attacks performed by the IJAAF and the IJNAF during the late period of the war. Japanese planes were getting absolutely crushed, whether you crashed into a ship or dropped a bomb, you were not going home.

The Arisaka also utilized a 6.5mm round with far less stopping power than the Mauser Kar 98K had.

The bolt-action rifle was an adequate weapon, and the Arisaka, while likely the worst of the lot, was adequate. The sad state of machine guns in the IJA was another matter. Unacceptable.

Wehrmacht infantry was based around the machine gun with riflemen providing support.

US Army infantry based itself around the M1 Garand as the primary provider of fire.

the IJA infantry relied on massing more men than the enemy. Firepower was not so much the objective, because the piss poor industry was incapable of providing it.

>Hitler and Himmler weren't too found of cripples
Goebbels was a cripple.

You're missing the point

> of course will be put down according to policy
>to policy
There was no such policy in Nazi Germany.
Perhaps in labor/(((death))) camps that may have been true, but to the average citizen that was not a concern.
That is pure "ebil nazi" fabrication.

Don't even get mad at it.

That scene isn't much different from the opening of The 300 where the badass Spartans toss any weak or disabled babies over the cliffs to be eaten by wolves.

I thought /pol loved this sort of thing.

>Watching the Electric Jew
>Thinking a show about Nazis can be red-pilled
>Perpetuating the holocaust myth

KYS OP you faggot pleb.

How bout your read and learn something instead?

True, it's not, and why would anyone want a show like that.

It is, however, damn satisfying in its portrayal every faction and in how it largely avoids obvious moral favoritism towards any of them. You're left to draw your own conclusions, and this is the strongest red pill there could be, and none of that edgy shit you mentioned.

Also the choice of the ep 210 ending song is a fantastic cherry on top for anyone cultured enough to get the reference.

Damn I wish I could see your face as you watch S2.

>The Arisaka also utilized a 6.5mm round
Wrong, the Arisaka Type 99 utilised a 7.7mm round. It is considered the most powerful bolt action of the era.

Then they should have killed Goebbels.

I'm not being defensive of anything but the truth. You should try studying the actual systems used in the Third Reich. The kind of centralization you are describing was never and could never be a possibility, even if such policies would be enacted(they wouldn't)

I think you've absorbed way too much propaganda. Pretending like Nazi Germany was made up of monsters is dangerous, and you shouldn't do it even if you are a member of Antifa. Learn some real history.

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