What's exactly the point of Obama doing all this when Trump will just revoke all these actions in his first week?

What's exactly the point of Obama doing all this when Trump will just revoke all these actions in his first week?

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this is what hes up to

Piss Russia off, set up a time bomb. Blame it on Trump when it goes off.

Jews

He's being a nigger. He was proper for ten years, but couldn't hold on for another few weeks and had to go full ghetto. He actually trash-talked Trump like a fucking street punk, and is now trying to do to US policy and world standing what niggers typically do to Section 8 housing.

Its just to distract from the massive election fraud that the DNC was caught doing.

>hits

russia got fucking SLAMMED by BARACK DEFINITELY-UNCUKED-FOREVER OBAMA

Because they're being sore losers and are trying to make Trump look like he's a Russian agent. They know Trump is going to get rid of the sanctions. Why not make more sanctions for him to un-do?

Politics. Trying to paint the next president into a corner and limit the actions he can take without suffering a political consequence. Liberals may be stupid sometimes, but in American politics they play for keeps.

"Oh look, first thing Trump does in office is suck Putin's cock for getting him elected. Bet he lifts the Crimea sanctions, too."

He LITERALLY wasted the last 8years of his life slaving away at a policy that expected the demographics to change quicker so as to be continued indefinitely.

Instead he's old and about to have lost his legacy and set back his entire policy group.

AKA he's kicking and screaming like a child whose being grounded.

People are probably pushing him to do even worse stuff and this is to get them off his back.

So as to cement in the 'mind' of libs that Hillary was right about the ebil Russian haxxors all along and that Trump remains a dangerous Kremlin stooge. Don't expect this narrative to go away.

Sabotage any future potential for Trump to show Russia any friendly gesture, because the libs would be like "see? collusion"

It's a test.

Trump has an honest chance to convince America he's not a puppet for Putin.

If he let's the sanctions, backed several, key intelligence reports, mind you, stand then he's increased his credibility across the aisle.

If he goes after the sanctions within the first 100 days then American and the world will know where he stands no matter how much he tries to wriggle.

tbhf, Obama just set Trump up for a 5D checkmate and the only thing Trump risks losing is his BFF Putin (neither a worthwhile strategic, economical, or social partner worth having compared to domestic and other foreign leaders). Guess we'll see if it's worth it to him...

He's chimping out. He lost and now he's throwing all his toys out the pram like the big baby he is while he still can.

I hope it sticks. Democrats shouldn't evolve. Let them stay stunted.

You have to go back.

he is trying to delegitimize Trump's victory one last time

Anyone who is pro Obama and anti Putin obviously belong in Africa so go home. Experience your herritage in an exclusive mud hut.

There is no point for Obama to do any thing really, he lost his mind, he is crazy and the sanctions is very unjustified. Its very interesting how the weapon sales to Georgia and Ukraine from the US spike about a year or so before a "war" break out and Russia never started any of them they just ended them both really fast and clean. Putin and somewhat Trump are few of the leaders I can belive in and make me hope for a better future. Get out Obama.. get out, out out out.

>backed up by intelligence reports

and where are those?

dumb kike

Hes still a bitter cunt over Hillary losing so he wants to fuck up as much as possible before heading out. At this point, he wants nothing more than to leave behind a massive clusterfuck for Trump to clean up.

His first four sentences are correct, though.

America should never be in a position that makes it look like its president is in bed with the communist subhumans.

It's called scorched earth politics.

We'll see, but I don't like watching the democrats operate solely on the basis of fear to drive their people out to vote (and riot, mind you).

I thought they WUZ cool

he's trying to stir shit up so it looks like trump started ww3 when it was he himself and satan (by name of hillary clinton) who started it

too bad trump will unfuck it in literally a day and we will proceed making america great again while obama pouts

If Trump tries to life the sanctions, they will just call him Russian puppet.

If Trump let the sanctions stay, liberals will say that it proves Russia did hack the election and Trump's win was illegitimate.

I think you'll find that America and Russia have more in common than you think, /lefty/ faggot. Trump has the house and the senate for the foreseeable future, and he's going to crush the collective in group you faggots have cultivated over the last 20 years. No more alphabet agencies fucking around. You're done.

>putin
>communist
you have to go back too

Classified, most likely.

Paul Ryan approves of them as well as the usual suspects like McCain and Graham. If Trump fights them he'll have to pick a fight with his own party.

He's just being an annoying faggot because his legacy is shit.

My guess is that Trump doesn't even address the issue, because there's no reason to.

MUH LEGACY

Good point. Add this to the list:

Using the Russia issue to drive a wedge between the president and the republican congress.

Unless Putin presses the issue, which he will because if he doesn't then he looks like a pussy.

Like if Trump cared a bit of what others think

>Trump will just revoke all these actions
But he won't.

foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/28/graham-mccain-want-russia-sanctions-after-election-hacking.html
>Top Republican senators said Wednesday that the incoming Congress and President-elect Donald Trump should impose new and tougher sanctions on Russia for allegedly meddling in the 2016 presidential elections.

>Graham, ousted by Trump from this year’s hard-hitting GOP presidential primaries, also told Fox News that he wants to put sanctions on Russia’s energy sector and on Putin and his inner circle to control their money and travel.

>McCain and Graham say they don’t think the email hacks determined the outcome of the Clinton-Trump race but argue 99 of Congress’ 100 senators think Russia was involved.

Repubs don't want Obama to do anything else with this issue. They want to be the ones to punish Russia.

...

>In 1975, Putin joined the KGB, and trained at the 401st KGB school in Okhta, Saint Petersburg.[28] After training, he worked in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence), before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where he monitored foreigners and consular officials in Saint Petersburg.[28][40][41] From 1985 to 1990, he served in Dresden, East Germany,[42] using a cover identity as a translator.[43] According to Putin's official biography, during the fall of the Berlin Wall that began on 9 November 1989, he burned KGB files to prevent demonstrators from obtaining them.

>After the collapse of the Communist East German government, Putin returned to Saint Petersburg, where in June 1991, he worked with the International Affairs section of Saint Petersburg State University, reporting to Vice-Rector Yuriy Molchanov.[41] There, he looked for new KGB recruits, watched the student body, and renewed his friendship with his former professor, Anatoly Sobchak, the Mayor of Saint Petersburg.[45]

McCarthy was right when he outed treacherous kikes like you and the Rosenbergs.

Someone post the Sup Forums prophecy.

Because obama is a snake.

Republicans couldn't even get an establishment member of their own party elected as the GOP. What makes you think they have any influence at this point? Even an idiot knows which way the wind is blowing.

WHAT IS THAT

So Trump will show to the public whose side he's really on and make it even more clear why Russia wanted him to win so badly.

Why does America still act like Russia is its enemy? Cold War is long over, no one gives a fuck about Ukraine.

Trump willingly letting ousted spies back into the US will ensure he gets assassinated by our own intelligence agencies and everyone will think he's an idiot anyway.

This was a parting gift from Obama to the GOP and DNC establishment.

All of the names showing up backing this on the GOP are the same assholes that wanted to tank Trump at all costs during the primaries.. and even into the election.

Obama has given ammo to all of Trump's enemies 22 days before he takes office. This has 0 to do with Russia, espionage or even the election, and everything to do with brick-walling Trump before he even takes his oath.

What happens when he declares martial law? Does he stay in office then?

I don't think Putin has any ideological love for communism, he's just interested in amassing wealth, power and prestige.

He's putting sanctions on Russia so Trump can make Russia conceed something to have the sanctions lifted.

Quite smart actually.

Ivanka is a witch

us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296A_GRIZZLY STEPPE-2016-1229.pdf

This one.

Now feel free to ignore this post, shill.


I don't give a shit if we were twins in the womb. If my brother fucked my wife behind my back then I'd still be a cuck and he'd still be a cunt. This isn't a right or left thing. Trump won hands-down and is OUR president-elect. This is a fucking American thing. I may think a lot of Americans are retarded but the moment a Canadian or Mexican tries to say the same LePaul and Paco are getting their noses bloodied.

Grow some fucking stones, unless you're actually just some useless proxy spreading disinfo.

>McCain
>Graham
>Top republican senators

Do you honestly think Trump will listen to these assholes?

The most esoteric of meme knowledge:

It will happen when the weather cools.
That's when they'll make their move.
The plans laid long ago, before the founding of America, and older still, will come to fruition.
They're trying to force God's hand.
Watch for these signs:

Three branches will become one.
An island will drift away.
A killing bolt will shine in the night but will not kill.
The star will gorge itself on clay.
Idols will speak and move about.
The black flag will fly above the dome.
The belly of the dragon will drip water.
Two voices will call out in a silence that all will hear.
A rock will stand on seven hills.
The ravens will starve.
The bear will leave its cave forever.
The rod and the ring will strike.

Russian spies in the US are nothing new. We kick out Israeli spies on a yearly basis.

newsweek.com/2014/05/16/israel-wont-stop-spying-us-249757.html

We kick out foreign "ally" spies and they keep sending them back in. This is nothing unusual. Making it a public spectacle is unusual.

I doubt the democrats have any idea how bad this makes them look.

of course not, but if Trump wants to keep the house and senate in 2 years he needs to follow through on his promises, the wall, Muslims, friendly with Russia and the rust belt states. Besides hes got the entire media against him.

Losing house and/or senate, its a very different story for the next 8 years.

Because the """establishment""" was divided among 20 other candidates until it was too late. If hopeless losers like Rubio and Kasich had gotten over their egos sooner and let the anti-Trump faction consolidate on one candidate early then Trump would have lost easily.

Of course there are spies here, every large power plays that game. But willingly and publicly letting them back is absolutely a weak move

If that was the case, no Soviet leader was ever communist because they all were interested in amassing wealth, power, and prestige.

I don't think Putin will. He has a lot riding on good relations with the new Pres and he may be an asshole, but he isn't stupid. I think he understands American politics better than a lot of American citizens do.

Obama went to Cuba to suck up to the commie Castro bros.

That intelligence report has no information in it.

It just says "hacking occurred"

That isn't proof. The proof from the forensic scientists is all circumstantial as well. There has been nothing irrefutable published.

Well, what the fuck did you expect from a cuck that was elected because of his skin color?

This isn't a partisan issue.

Literally, neither side would lose anything from punishing Russia with sanctions for hacking US entities. Not only does it clear the GOP/Trump but the Dems/Obama save face. The only people that lose are Russia and Putin.

If there are Americans who don't think this is now a straight up patriotic issue then you're an idiot and need to wake up. Russia isn't getting a free pass for this one because there is ZERO fucking reason for them to get one.

It's about as helpful as getting "an error occurred" message from your PC.

>This has 0 to do with Russia, espionage or even the election, and everything to do with brick-walling Trump before he even takes his oath.
I doubt it.

A lot is going to get done in the first 100 days thanks to a Rep. majority in the House and Senate. Yeah, the establishment hates his guts. But they hate Russia even more. Trump will end up flipping on this issue. And everyone will forget because of speed at which things will get done when he is sworn in.

She's hot tho

Nobody that would ever vote dem is gonna be upset by this.

Russia doesn't give a flying fuck about Obama kicking out spies. They have 10 times more actual covert spies that we don't know about.

Trying to embarrass Russia and using sanctions that shrunk their economy by 50% is probably something that will piss them off though.

I have no love for the faggot mulatto.

Russians are more important to the United States than leftists. Leftists are all openly hostile to the country, and I believe that they should be either forced into hard labor until death, or just shot and tossed into mass graves like trash.

The report that doesn't mention evidence or wikileaks and contains a disclaimer saying "we cant guarantee any of this is true"?

You must have never had crazy pussy before. Once they know where you live, it's all over and the regrets come in

No. Martial law would not stop Trump's inauguration.

Alright, the intelligence community has repeatedly said Russians hacked us to meddle in our Democratic elections and have even issued a formal, public report (sans classified information of course for obvious reasons).

usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/21/17-intelligence-agencies-russia-behind-hacking/92514592/

Yet, you seem to be really trying hard to convince us that it's all bullshit and we should believe....who, again?

...

Why cite it, if you didn't read it?

>a disclaimer saying "we cant guarantee any of this is true"

They've been saying that about everything since the Iraq WMDs "slam dunk" moment.

>Yeah, the establishment hates his guts
They're not going to let him get anything done. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it.

>But they hate Russia even more
Republicans have always hated Russia, and Democrats now hate Russia because they may have shown them for being corrupt pieces of shit. Putting Russia into a corner isn't the best foreign policy decision.

It's a layup for the press.

What happens when Trump invites all these people back?

Plus, if it forces action before Trump comes into power, then what do?

It's simply sewing chaos. Not every thread can be tied at once. Trump will have to do triage. What does he let fall?

Agreed

sorry wrong one

Wanting a strong diplomatic response to foreign adversaries and supporting Trump are not mutually exclusive. Where the fuck did the idea that if you love Trump you should bend over for Russia come from?

>we should believe....who, again?
No one.

Think for yourselves. Analyze the material with skepticism. They've provided no concrete proof. Demand proof until allowing this shit to go any further.

If they want the US public to be onboard for starting WW3 over Hillary and the DNC getting caught doing corrupt shit, then we at least deserve proof.

>during the Bush era

HAHAHA THERE'S NO WMDS! INTELLIGENCE BUREAUS CANNOT BE TRUSTED KEKEKEKEKE

>today

THE CIA AND FBI SAY THE HACKING HAPPENED AND THEY'RE COMPLETELY INFALLIBLE!

this is the worst post I've ever seen on Sup Forums

>obama applies sanctions
>republicans agree with it
>Trump will remove the sanctions

Trump knows his place, if he does that then hes a traitor to his own party and the american people

>"intelligence community"
Who? Cite EXACTLY who. There is no evidence you subhuman leftist cattle. Your mother should have tossed your infant body into a blender while you screamed and cried before being blended into soup and lapped up by the family dog. Fucking naive leftist trash.

you know, i actually read the whole report. half of it is a netiquette 101 PSA and completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, either to artificially inflate the page length, or because people in charge of your government are literally so inept that they unironically fall for nigerian prince scams

the other half is claiming that some retard in the DNC fell for a phishing scam. how this is related to russia, however, is only stated by the alleged existence of some vague "russian hacker group" labeled with a spooky ominous acronym and literal meme code names.

zero evidence of any russian ties were presented, if you replaced any reference to russia with, say, china, the entire report wouldn't change. and it couldn't be disproved either, because you cannot disprove something with no tangible evidence in the first place (just as you cannot prove it, but that has never stopped your government)

I definitely won't believe Sup Forums posters, that's for sure. No one here has any good countersources most of the time

Lol, this election cycle has really demonstrated that leftists are simply not human. We should just be using their bodies for hard labor or sex slavery. Their broken minds are utterly worthless.

Obama is trying to make as big as mess as possible hoping something will stick and complicating things for Trump. He's a really sore loser.

Exposing evidence of liberal wrongdoing by the Russians can hardly be considered "rigging the election", if they found nothing no one would have cared

>This document provides technical details regarding the tools and infrastructure used by the Russian civilian and military intelligence Services (RIS) to compromise and exploit networks and endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private sector entities.

>guarantee
Intelligence reports don't work that way.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_confidence#Levels_of_Analytic_Confidence_in_National_Security_Reports

It's like reading that lysol kills 99.9% of germs. You can't make absolute statements because it would be irresponsible.

So an attribution statement is HUGE in the intelligence community even if they can't verify it 100%. A key should be that we were able to select specific Russian actors responsible and that should be a clue how vetted the classified information is.

>just as you cannot prove it

What has Russia done to the US that hasn't been done by Saudi Arabia, China, Israel, or even Germany for that matter?

>Saudi Arabia
They tampered with the price of oil to destroy oil production in the US that could've lead to greater sovereignty and national security

>Israel
Constantly undermines our democracy and mainstream media while sending spies that get caught by the DHS on a yearly basis.

>China
Has provoke every single of our allies in Asia. Has played dirty in economics, trade and intellectual property... and has fucking personal information (such as who they cheated on their wife with) for every single person with a clearance in the US.

We've weathered worse shit than Russia making a laughing stock of the DNC (allegedly) without making a noise. This has NOTHING to do with Russia, espionage, the DNC, Ukraine, or Syria.

I think its been shown that the party follows Trump now, not the other way around.

See
Or just google it yourself if you actually care. Which you and I both know you don't. Because that's not what you're here to do. You're not here to actually give a shit about an IC report. You're here to discredit it because it doesn't fit your agenda, Ivan.