What was the point of concentration camps to begin with? How long did Hitler plan to hold them there?

What was the point of concentration camps to begin with? How long did Hitler plan to hold them there?

Labor camps. Until the war was over, then he planned to expel them to another place.

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Political stability.
First it was from the commies so that they wouldn't cause disturbance. (the nazis hated them)
Then it was for the jews and other subhumans. As for your last statement, one thing you learn about Hitler is that he never planned anything.
Himmler was in charge of the camps

Free labor. Dunno. Socialists and commies do all sorts of weird shit. What was the point of Soviets arresting a quarter of city or town

What kind of labor did he need them to do exactly?

A concentration camp is literally just another name for an internment camp, like the ones we put the Japanese in. They were "concentrated" so they would be easier to watch over in case they tried to do something like the German Revolution of 1918 again.

Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense.

Were the Jews also behind the Revolution?

The same kind of menial labor that we have prisoners do in the US, because slavery is still legal as a form of punishment.

I think it was originally to keep the jews out of public (like prison, but obviously there wasn't the required room in prisons). Basically the same reason the US put the Japanese in concentration camps (true, though we used the term internment camps to distinguish ourselves).

Until his thugs had killed every last Jewish person, Person of Color, disabled person, LGBT+, undocumented American, and women on the planet.

Yes, they were. You should also look into the Venona Papers for an American example.

While we've got the daily holocaust thread going, is there anyone out there that can answer me this question?

Have the supposed holes in the roof of crematoria ii where half a million jews were allegedly gassed with zyklon b pellets dropped through chimney-like holes in the roof ever been confirmed?

I read that three of the four holes were positively identified in the remaining slab roof in a "report" cited by Deborah Lipstadt but it didn't say which report and I don't trust her.

Anyone out there actually know the truth of the matter?

what was the point of the internment camps? how long did the Americans plan to hold them there?

The camps were basically a more fucked up version of Guantanamo Bay

dude... there was a war going on, he needed them for that

>What kind of labor did he need them to do exactly?

It depends, there have been different markings for jewish prisoners. Big finance,... had to work all day pretty hard, whereas small time Jews even got days off from working.

>ever been confirmed?

building gas chambers directly next to the camp hospital...
Why even have a hospital at all?

He was going to ship them off to the ME and create Israel, which is why Bibi said Hitler didnt want to kill the jews and blamed their deaths on Islam.

He offered them up to plenty of countries, but all declined the mass immigration. He had them put in CC for the time being, until they could find a way to get rid of them. Eventually, the only way to get rid of them was the "final solution."

menial labor. Also, working in

Labor as a punishment is called indentured servitude.

>Why even have a hospital at all?

Wasn't the goal to make it look like they weren't killing people?
So when they won the war (in their estimation), they wouldn't have much explaining to do, or moralist rebels.

That's why they didn't just kill people who got sick. It had to appear like they were seeing to everyone's health until they were set to make more disappearances.

Didn't many people walk willingly into the chambers not knowing what they were?

Holy shit you guys are retarded. YES they had fucking concentration camps and death camps. They put all the undesirables and german enemies in the camps so they could be put to good use or killed. What the fuck else do you do with the garbage of society and more importantly why don't you understand it? It's literally part of the system they had and to deny that but support the naxi movement is fucking insane.

They killed 90% on arrival in some cases. They wanted to kill all the retards and cripples so the normal working german wouldn't have to look at him.

Better rewrite the constitution so every knows then.

So you can treat people so they can go back to work? Or do experiments for the betterment of science.

they were re-education camps for everybody but the jews. i don't think we have a historically accurate version of the holocaust, but i do think that jews were put into camps

>and death camps
[citation needed]

Ok why the fuck wouldn't they have death camps? Its a good idea and they were cleaning the county of their filth. They weren't concerned with their petty lives because they had a reich to build. Honestly the entire ideology doesn't even work if you DONT have death camps.

most likely an exaggeration. an honest day's work would feel like death to the common garden jew

Or you could gas him and his family and get it over with when he gets off the train.

Build weapons and ammo basically.

you ever hear someone say "my back is KILLING me"? that is most likely what was meant by the jew witnesses in labor camps. "felt like an oven", "smelled so bad it was like we were getting gassed", these are common exaggerations and it is how those people talk.

the whole "40 days and 40 nights" thing is another example. they weren't actually walking around a desert for 40 days and 40 nights, it was probably just an afternoon

Why would you exaggerate this? I dont understand why the thought of mass killing them passes over your heads. Its the kind of people the germans were.

jews had expressed violent anti-german ideas, which is why Hitler had already forbidden them from manufacturing weapons

its impossible to know how complicit Hitler was in the post-war clusterfuck that turned jewish victimhood into religious imagery

>gas them
>that's somehow easier than just letting them starve

M8....m8

What was the point of Japanese internment camps?

Even if Hitler's plan was mass extermination, death camps are comically inefficient. The easiest way to kill someone is to shoot them in the back of the head- not ship them hundreds of miles across Europe to be immediately gassed upon arrival.

the german jews? yes they were monsters

That takes too long and too much suffering. A firing line would suffice but it was too messy. And when you're trying to destroy tens of millions of then its not useful having them all stave slowly.

are you a trainee

you need to read the handbook again, these responses suck

I agree. The actual germans were trying to create the typical dreamlike spartanesque society with the best quality to their people. It wasn't an evil thing in their eyes. It was a sacrifice that had to be made.

It's almost as if the camps would have been better used to exterminate the prisoners instead of wasting resources 'reeducating them' or keeping them to do 'menial labor.'

Some sort of... holocaust...squad.

Just have them work and let them starve, how is that too much?

They're pushing the narative that the jews clawed the walls while being gassed, that sounds like a lot of suffering

You're a retard.

5 minutes in the chamber instead of weeks without food. Societs starved people. Germans gassed them.

why would he holocaust them? He was jewish.

At least you get something out of them like this, let them kill themselves from work. It doesn't make sense.

They lacked the infrastructure and the means to gas all of them. Nevermind the fact that you would have to somehow keep it all a secret from everybody, from native Germans and the prisoners. It's too much shilling for me

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they were used to build all kind of shit, including caves in Karkonosze mountains

I will never understand why they did not release the army of skeletons when they started losing.

Its a logistical nightmare to keep 15+ million niggers of society so they split away and sent to multiple camps that were far from prying eyes and the nazis had an extreme amount of propaganda and influence over their citizens so i doubt if the average german was even aware until after the war.

You cant make cripples kids the elderly or the sick work. Starving people dont work as well and people who were on munitions factory would fuck up intentionally to hamper the war effort.

You're thinking of Jesus, my man.

Same person

Free labor

Why would they gas them when it's cheaper to use shoot them?

>concentration
They were extermination camps.
Unless you call turning people into ash concentrating them.

Why burn them if it's cheaper and faster to just shoot?

1) Germany was shipping jews out of the country as fast as they could prior to the war.

2) Speeches high up in the Nazi leadership to the SS admitted that the necessary work they were doing was upsetting and should never be spoken of publicly

3) There was a lot of "don't ask, don't tell" feeling in the German programs for dealing with all types of undesirables. Elderly and disabled people would be sent to special hospitals where they would be euthanized, but there was always plausible deniability in the process for most people involved (e.g. family members)

4) Just shooting millions of people is actually a huge logistical problem. It's also the sort of thing that your population isn't going to like. They don't want it happening in their neighborhoods. They don't want to see it. You don't want them to see it either, because it's going to make things weird.

Therefore, if you have a goal to remove a lot of people from your country, and, the successful program you were running to export them has to stop because of a war, you need to

a) collect them and move them under false pretenses
b) concentrate them in a few different secluded areas
c) extract the maximum amount of value possible from them
d) kill them efficiently, cleanly, on a massive scale, with no mistakes or errors. Even lining up hundreds of people to shoot them will involve many mistakes, 2nd shots, running/scared/hurt people. Very Messy.

Why would they kill people that can work?

>He offered them up to plenty of countries, but all declined the mass immigration. He had them put in CC for the time being, until they could find a way to get rid of them.
Sauce? Seems pretty interesting.

>people
they were not people, they were either undesirables or subhumans

fucking leaf read the real history

Every time I hear some a natsoc deny or belittle what the subhuman krauts did in WW2 I laugh.

You miserable little fucks are exactly like the ancestors you worship, unable to own up to a shred of responsibility like the dindus you are. It's always someone else's fault that your plans don't work and the jews are why Hitler lost, not because national socialism is a leftist cancer.

But keep telling yourself you're better than niggers.

All those subhuman nazi krauts were bullies and that's all they ever were. They never called about anyone but themselves and had no respect for human life. It didn't matter if it was the kikes, gypsies, faggots, or EVEN THE 6TH FUCKING ARMY, you were expendable to the desires of 1 man, the supreme degenerate you worship called Hitler.

>Unless you call turning people into ash concentrating them.

I understand from their point of view of killing defective and overly stubborn undesirables, but why would they kill those that are willing and able to work?

remember the allies killed them mostly, they bombed the supply lines starving them and on top of that they had typhus outbreaks on low nutrition they fucking died by the thousands, the nazis just wanted them for cheap labor, also the jews were singled out because their were terrorist among them and they would blend back into their jewish population

Jesus Christ. I hope you all don't really believe that bullshit. Do a tad more research on the subject. Start with the International Red Cross reports.

>willing and able
that's the point, they were never willing
and slaves make shitty workers even when fed
when they are a group of just hungry skellies it's a waste of time to even watch over them

You look at first boer camps, and even strong white hunters and their entire families can waste away pretty fucking fast when you get them hungry and let disease spread

Aw.

All of these camps were either temporary transit camps or work camps. Hell, Hilter actually supported Israel getting started and wanted to move the Jews to Israel as soon as the war was over. They didn't have the resources to make that happen at the time. Thanks to Allied bombers cutting off all supply lines to the camps, it was only a matter of time before prisoners were starving and dying of Typhus. This is why we see all these photos of emaciated bodies being scooped up by British soldiers using bulldozers and tractors.

Worst part is, our leaders KNEW that cutting off these supply lines would lead to mass starvation. They counted on it. Looks better for them when trying the enemy in a military/criminal tribunal.

I dunno why did the US lock up the japs in similar camps? If the us was bombed to shit and people in those camps started to starve and due from disease and shit how would that paint Americans if they lost the war?

The idea is to keep the enemies within your state in them so they cant run around and fuck up shit from within as long as you have enemies outside to fight.

You did it to the nips during ww2 btw.