Sup Forums Is there any way you can live a fulfilling life as a gay man?

or are you doomed to get aids and die of gay cancer

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This ugly Asian guy has a hotter girlfriend than the 'sexiest man alive' Nick Bateman

Same girl as above

gay life = get muh cummies, maybe travel some, die.

I would say that fulfillment has many factors feeding into it. I think professional attainment is much more important for men (gay and straight) than it is to women. A man with a career and professional prospects who is making good money and succeeding in life is attractive to everyone, men and women, gay or straight, romantically or platonically.

I think there are a lot of gay men (trust my word) who hate the gay "lifestyle" and are trying to find someone special who they can settle down with. With the acceptance socially and politically of homosexuality, there's been a surge in conservative views and lifestyles among gay guys.

Fulfill your manly duty, marry a good woman raise healthy children

Maybe you don't "love her". That's fine most people don't find real love.

Fufill your role as a man

Now that gay marriage is settled there is little no reason for gays to stay with the Democratic Party

Don't fuck men.
I'm a hetero, and I haven't fucked in years. Bitches want me to shower and brush teeth and shit.
Are you a slave to your hormones, faggot?

i have a high sex drive and i'm submissive though

Can OP live a fulfilling life as a straight man obsessed with homosexuals on a Vietnamese image board?

>I have a high sex drive

So? Control it what are you an animal?'

I dunno mane, on some level, our ancestors didn't really marry purely for love. They procreated in order to continue their society. If you refuse to create a family you're dooming your genetic make-up which has survived some 200,000 years.

Milo actually wrote an article about how the emancipation of homosexuals from their duty to society (to produce stable families as they had been doing in the past, when it was kept under wraps) has harmed society.

I tend to believe it.

I can vaguely remember hearing on Milo's podcast, back when Milo was popular, that gays are natural libertarians. I tend to agree with him. Gays care about so many things that have nothing to do with gay "rights". Taxes, foreign policy, the role of the public sector, federalism, there's a lot that Democrats can't offer gays. I've never met a single gay guy who supports single payer healthcare or progressive taxation.

What do white (generally wealthy) men have to gain by supporting women, single mothers poor children and importing minorities who wouldn't hesitate to Stone them?

There isn't a single reason to support left wing politics as a gay man, it was only for the marriage issue

What do I tell the people who know I'm gay? Just kidding? There are immense social pressures for gay people who are "out of the closet" to stay that way.

Two gay men are better than one single mom

Exactly. The Democrats have no idea what's coming. Gay men have always been a little detached from the rest of society. While there has been a little "integration" in a few areas, there's no great movement to become happy, smiling, suburban, boring neighbors.

Two gay men raising children is nornalizing degeneracy

We have no option but being libertarian: conservatives want us back into the closet; liberals wants us to behave like women.

Have you tried killing yourself?

one time a while ago

Seems as though you didn't give it your all. Please try harder next time. I know you can do it.

good advice my man

Tell them its what you want.

Do you not want kids?

average gay person lacks basic self control necessary for a stable relationship

Yeah there is. I try and advance myself professionally and physically the only problem for me is well romance. I haven't found anyone else that I am comparable with. In college it is difficult I understand.

LUL

Kill as many nonwhites as possible. That's literally all the good a faggot can do in the world.

haha fag

They would ask why I wouldn't just adopt or get a surrogate.

because its not the same as having a real family.

It sucks because I'm also in California so I unironically get more shit for being a republican than for being gay

You tell me.

>There are immense social pressures for gay people who are "out of the closet" to stay that way.

Explain

Hypothetical question: What would happen to a gay if they chose to no longer be gay anymore? As in they cannot change the way they feel but change the way they behave? As in what user told you to do. Get married, have kids and live that way. Or go full blown Christian and leave the gay lifestyle behind in the name of Christ?

You'd have to have monogamy, which will guarantee divorce.

How to find Sup Forums bf?

See there's an issue, a good portion of your right wing gays are open to the possibility of having a family. Say what you will about them but often they together can provide an extremely good life for a child.

Playing in mud is unhygienic..

You are lucky homosexuality has not been put to a referendum.

99.9% of the people would make it a death sentence.

>/r/hapa

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Nope. Homosexuality is completely degenerate behavior akin to smoking it's so bad for you.

>99.9% of the people would make it a death sentence.
99.9% of your brain is already dead celss

Stop being a fag and advocate for Pence. That'll really spice things up.

People will straight-up not believe you if you say "I'm straight now," after previously coming out of the closet. The liberal narrative is that people cannot change their sexuality, and they believe this with such conviction that they have banned conversion therapy in many areas. Anybody publishing research suggesting gay men can go back is forced to retract their claims or be shunned from Academia.

If a gay man decided to tell people he was now straight, and he acted perfectly straight, right down to having sex with women, people would believe the man was living in denial. They would look down on him for leading on these women rather than accepting himself. If this was done for religious reasons, the man would be dismissed as a holy-roly, and if it wasn't, the explanation would be that the individual has internalized homophobia from being raised in a society where homosexuality isn't seen as normal.

I don't think many women would even want to date somebody who "used to be gay." If somebody was to do all of this, hypothetically, I don't think any of their friends or family would support such a relationship. That's what I mean by social pressures.

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If people actually knew what being gay does to you health and society wise, then being homosexual would be grounds for at least sterilization. When 3% of the population is 40% of pedophiles , you know something is wrong with it.

Pt. 1 of 2: Fuck off sodomite. Muh queef knocking apples. You rapist unChristian asshole. Xq28 gene. Surrogacy. David and Jonathan. Rainbows; what they mean and when they appear. Lucifer having tits and a cock but you with Plato say God and Adam have tits. Refuse to marry Christ. Ignore condoms. Ignore racial stats. Ignore actual risks in life. Ignore Charlie Sheen. Ignore zika. Ignore super gonorrhea. Youre all cucked disgusting lying synagogue of satan feminists who caused the fall of mankind. AND gays. You just try and get rises out of people. I think ill just leave you in the new year to destroy yourselves. Enjoy getting milked on mars for your semen. I actually remember why we have adam's apples and that real angels have no gender. And ALL of Christ's words to do with this. What is a born eunuch? Hrm? When did Jew become a word? When did homosexual? Roman centurion. Ethiopian eunuch. youtube.com/watch?v=if1zBr0hw2U
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(The second video there is just one example of this shit). I am Cinderella. You are the fat bitch stepmother. You stand for pedos. Cuckoldry. Invented diseases. Scapegoating. And the weaker sex. Don't mistake kindness for weakness. When you drive a huge car everybody knows how big your clit "dick" is. Men are practically women. Why you want to fuck a destroyed inside out penis is beyond me. Go fuck yourselves. I hate you all. You don't like what you're missing (you don't not know about it; you do; you just double down and say we like attention; ignore the fallen animals; what happens to angels when they fall; which groups they attack) and so you blame me. Story of 6000 years. That YOU invented it all. Christ cancels you out and died on the same tree on which you fell. To live to the opposite of you. And you forget all this. Mystical goat fucking synagogue of satan frogger pagan liars. I am so fulfilled you only wish you could get this angry when attacked.

Pt. 2 of 2: Instead you just bitch about women all day. Eggs made from skin cells now. Blow me. Inb4 leaf. Inb4 schizophrenic babbling that I "can't" understand. If you say those as a reply. I say "good". Im not sticking around to see any cognitive dissonance. Be fruitful means to do good. Not go fuck. Thats all you do. The good is preferable to any intimate relationship. Phobes love gay porn and scat. You want a womany man? Find a phobe.

You can but changing your whole methodology is hard. I tried nofap, I tried nofap, what kept me from doing anything was Sup Forums with all the infographs and pictures. What scares me is hard numbers and data. Thats why I don't want to act on my urges.

Daily reminder that the APA is a completely biased organization whose former president has accused it of ignoring evidence, defunding research based on political biases, and cherry picking results to make homosexuality seem natural. Just because gay conversion therapy so far has high recidivsm rates does not mean it doesn't work.

That does sound fun actually. The only issue is women don't really get my dick hard.

You are not schizophrenic your a schizoid neck beard freak. There is a difference. People like you deserve to be shot for degeneracy and self denying zealotry.

Fix apples. Christ does this. For apples. And for the fags the apples created. God creates. You became "as gods" in order to directly proCREATE. All mental illnesses are merely spiritual darkness. I prayed on this. Alone. Without you rabbis. Go put shoe on other foot you rapist shunning antichrist without regard for women as you grab their fart boxes. It's a fucking gene Freud. I was created too. For my own purpose. To serve Christ. Fuck your secularism. It is a curse to reverse any orientation except pedos. Like putin. And trump and his incest and epstein. Yours too. Bugger off

>not having to deal with women just to get your dick wet

sure thing buddy

I think a good portion, at least half, would stop being gay if women weren't such untrustworthy vapid snakes. You give your heart to one and it's like an invisible clock starts ticking down towards the inevitable moment she stabs you in the back.

I dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Im not doing this right now. It is there for your own thoughts or benefits. And i should amend. It's not that you dont like what you're missing. You don't like what you have and on which you are missing out. Mine. But you are you. Your kind. I am me. My kind. So who cares more and is an attention whore? You. You write off ALL your hypocrisies and shortcomings to blame me. You play buzzwords. You make no sense. How about telling me specifically HOW im wrong? Youre all fucked and wrong and mouth breathing idiot slaves

>when you drink your own cool aid

I believe it.

The research I mentioned in my last post was done by Robert Spitzer, chairman of the DSM-III (the main diagnostic manual for mental disorders in the U.S.). He's a pretty big deal, and he was the one who published promising research on conversion therapy. But like I said, he was forced to retract it in the face of backlash--it's possible that the research was simply low-quality, but I think it's more likely that people found methodological problems with it only because they didn't like the conclusion.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Spitzer_(psychiatrist)#On_homosexuality

In the past 3 years, I've lost virtually all the faith I had in psychology research. I'd like for it to be possible to choose to be straight, but I'm not confident enough in it to bank the rest of my life on it. I'll just marry a dude and get a surrogate.

>the supreme gentleman is back
*tips*

>generalised nothing statement whilst drinking kool aid explaining nothing and saying im drinking kool aid
Bye

keep posting friend, this is insightful stuff :)

>not draining your bank account on the first date

Only for you. I agree with your last sentence here. These are dark times and i dont feel like casting pearls before some other pigs today
Take care and God Bless you

I'm curious how this dude got his girl

I'm sorry but what you said is literally the weirdest shit I've heard in my life. Say what you will say about the good lord above but I don't think we're any more special than straights. Yeah women are a pain in the ass and yeah giving them rights had its pros and cons as far as conservative politics is concerned but it's the goddamn natural order ffs. I might be gay but I know whether I like it or not I have to respect that natural order and defend it for the sake of society as a whole

This. Oh so much. It's impossible to have true relationship nowadays, because of how bad women are. Seriously, you can never relax with women, because if you do, she'll take that moment of weakness and skewer you between the ribs. And then she'll steal all of your shit and force you to pay child support for the rest of your life. It's just not worth it, to enter a relationship nowadays.

Thank you for answering me in a dignified way instead of being a faggot about it. I was just curious.

Question: Is it a secret desire of gays, like yourself, to be straight? How many of your communities population do you think wish they were straight? Do you, and others like you, wish to be straight because of the social stigma attached to homosexuality or do you desire to be straight because it is normal, natural, and mentally balanced?

Many say that gays who suffer from depression, drug use, alcohol abuse, and eventual suicide do so because they are "rejected" in life. However, even gays who live in highly liberal societies like Scandanavian counties, Thailand, Australia, NZ, Canada all still suffer from those things. Is it possible that it is the homosexuality itself and not society that makes you feel this way?

You didnt read anything I said. Like the guy who says to kill me and gets a 6. I never said we are more special. You are also not gay and are an uncle tom. I also mentioned animals so i dont know what youre saying about natural order. That is enlightenment augustine bullshittery. Platonic complementarity kabbalistic garbage. Messianic torah readers are fine. Talmud is not. You are more backward than I might be. God creates man. All the curses had to do with sex and nudity and shame. What does "knowing" eachother mean? God wanted them to walk with Him. Why is it written off as "knowledge"? I think the serpent is nephilim. Lucifer became Satan and roams the EARTH. And this "knowledge" went to Adam through penisvaginas. Happy new year

>what kept me from doing anything was Sup Forums with all the infographs and pictures. What scares me is hard numbers and data. Thats why I don't want to act on my urges.

Are you a gay or just an impulsive fapper?

IT'S A FUCKING GENE YOU PUSSYNOSE

>not expressing ideological hypocrisy based on internal desperation to be validated as a Real Man™ by a confused majority in a society built on the foundations of primitive religious bigotries

Go blow on someone else's yard, leaf.

>asking for life advice
>in the second worst place after Reddit
>mfw

Whom or what socialised the animals? Read Enoch. They are corrupted. Have all sorts of sex. We are corrupted. By your sex. Go on to have all sorts of sex. Until you know what it's like to live alongside you right wing butcher clowns you have no right to speak against us. We are equals in depravity. But you might honestly be worse because you are a sodomite and call me one. How do you read Genesis and then go fuck apples? It's insanity. Men are not men and women are not women because your bullshit has been around for 6000 years. I have Christ whom fixes ALL this. Let alone your secret fetishes and obsessions. Do you? I don't see this anymore. You righties took the Bible and spent all this time developing your reptile brains

Get married and have children. Then be gay on the side. That is the true, masculine Greek way to be gay. That way you can fulfill your reproductive instinct as well as your depraved lusts, and do your duty to the nation. Any other way is jewish degeneracy and will leave you with a constant nagging feeling like you have left something undone, or are doing something wrong till you die.

If I may give my input

Question:

>Is it a secret desire of gays, like yourself, to be straight?

If there were a chance I could go straight I would but as far as the gay population overall goes I think 5-10% would be willing maybe more

>How many of your communities population do you think wish they were straight?

It's hard to say but definitely a lot wish they were.

Do you, and others like you, wish to be straight because of the social stigma attached to homosexuality or do you desire to be straight because it is normal, natural, and mentally balanced?

The first, I'm an engineering major and I could build a thousand bridges and build up America but if I suck a cock and word got out, bye bye career.

>Many say that gays who suffer from depression, drug use, alcohol abuse, and eventual suicide do so because they are "rejected" in life. However, even gays who live in highly liberal societies like Scandanavian counties, Thailand, Australia, NZ, Canada all still suffer from those things. Is it possible that it is the homosexuality itself and not society that makes you feel this way?

Very much so but I think society does a better job than nature in this regard.

I think you all should, if you're conservative, and especially if you care about your race, procreate, and whatever social steps you need to take to do it, you should take. BUT, I dunno man, I'm not a homosex so I don't live with your struggles, it's a choice you have to make.

To me the best thing you can do in a micro level to improve the lot of our society is have a family. Doing that, doesn't matter if you're gay or straight, it's a choice you'll make. Lots of straight guys just smash and never marry. Lots of straight guys are getting vasectomies.

Surrogacies are Biblical and women are not here to be abused by you in such a manner

>not dating someone who can carry their own weight

>sexuality is a social construct
>>>/reddit/

Having a big dick in your ass must feel pretty filling

>Be on break

The TLDR of you is that you're a schizoid moron with no actual sense of the ontological other in the middle of an identity crisis. You'll say and do anything to shift blame onto others while ignoring your own flaws, because you're a schizoid, a schizoid does not believe in flaws within his own sense of self because it can't. A schizoid is zealotry incarnate, there is no difference between you and Jews or pagans who are themselves schizoids. You are a weak personality that can be easily manipulated by others and should either be used or eliminated.

>getting married and having children
>abuse

It is genetic and hormonal in the WOMB and is shat on by all cultures. For reasons ive tried to outline. Done and done

>Le Uncle Tom Ad hominem

I do see what you mean about religion in all this. I don't think it's that deep an issue.

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Absolutely. I would like to have a family one day. I'd like to find a surrogate with my husband and raise 4 kids in a relatively wholesome and healthy environment. Four kids because we have to replace ourselves and double it.

>not dating someone who can effectively double your wardrobe, vidya collection, and household income

If it helps porn really led me to being gay.

Never fapped to traps just went from women to smut to yaoi smut to twinks

>How about telling me specifically HOW im wrong?
Your lifestyle choice leads to there being less white Christians on this earth. That is bad for us.

Whether it's genetic or hormonal or not does NOT mean you have to act on it.

Do you think you'll ever find a man to marry you who's also a conservative "fashy" gay man? Or is that not your goal?

I wonder about that type of stuff sometimes. I guess the hue said it right that I kind of think
>back in the closet
is best. But ya I wouldn't knock you for raising 4 kids.

>Your lifestyle choice leads to there being less white Christians on this earth. That is bad for us.
every race and religious denomination has a homosexual population, the net difference is therefore zero

>being less white Christians on this earth. That is bad for us.
That is a GOOD thing!

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Absolutely. There are a lot of conservative gay guys who like hunting, hiking, the outdoors, and who also like looking your best and are able to appreciate the aesthetic without being feminine or too faggy about it. I think there are a lot of secretly "red-pilled" guys who want families and support their nation and salute their flag and want to add to it by having kids of their own instead of adopting a second rate mongrel.

Would there be as little reaction to this if it were ANY vagina? If in doubt try and discover why dick breads are always way more popular than any female nudity. Then check out how many videos there are of straight boys enjoying their new huge twink dicks. That is all. Also to the 9 people who repeated ignorance against what I said. Read what I said. Again. You will see I disagree with what you said and already outlined how an why. I said I was done because I said something. And people reacted in fancy ways that ignored everything. And illogically told me I did what THEY ARE FUCKING DOING. Enjoy the best part of these threads. Posts like these... I am intuitive as fuck and I've read about this in all ways (studies too) and I can almost read or pick up on all your thoughts on posts like this

Yes. But if we have none then there is a distinct advantage. Besides, we can't afford anyone not to do their duty. Whites have the lowest birth rates of all.