Sup Forums will defend this:

Trump still refuses to offer concrete evidence to refute rumors that the Russians helped him cheat the elections!

Even Faux news agrees. Explain your way out of this, faggots!

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zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-31/washington-post-caught-spreading-more-fake-news-about-russian-hackers
washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.755449cd8011
newsninja2012.com/true-pundit-cia-analyst-declares-washington-post-russian-hacker-story-a-lie/
arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/did-russia-tamper-with-the-2016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/
washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.90b94971bab0
adam.curry.com/art/1481944650_ptUCapFj.html
twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault
twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/792637205134970880
twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/792637207601225729
youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q
poynter.org/fact-checkers-code-of-principles/
wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Hard to prove something that didn't exist. Devil's proof.

sage

>obligation to prove a negative

You're new to this whole rational thought thing aren't you?

> Trump still refuses to offer concrete evidence to refute rumors

Proof is founded with evidence, not the lack thereof.

> Unicorns Exist!
> No they don't!
> YEAH WELL PROVE IT THEN HEH

The CIA can't tip their hand. Trump would know this if he ever went to the briefings. The ball is in his court to prove his way out of the mess that he got himself into, PROTIP: He can't.

The only thing the Russians did was reveal the DNC was rigged in Hillary's favor.

Dems will jump on Snowdens dick for showing sensitive information but the moment shit happens to there side then everything is awful and the perpetrators an awful person.

Give me an example of something which could prove the Russians DIDN'T do something.

Do you know how evidence works in a logical context?

Burden of proof is on those making the allegation that the Russians were behind DNC and pizza boy emails. Thus far they have not provided anything concrete.

There is near unanimous consensus that he needs to defend his claims of innocence. Collusion with Russians to usurp US democracy is SERIOUS, and likely treasonous.

this

The Russians ARE hacking the US to death! How can you refute established FACT? I suppose you get all of your "facts" from The Daily Caller or InfoWars.

Keep your heads in the sand Sup Forums.

Reminder that this is a bait thread and should be saged

cia is not an investigative agency and should not be treated as such

if they had intelligence the russians were behind hacking the election then their job was to prevent it from happening. not claim after the fact that it happened and offer no proof. but since it's all bullshit and no hacking actually occurred, this is all they can do.

The burden of proof has never been on Trump. Shitty thread, shitty argument.

>burden of proof is on the accused

Yeah, no.

This is b8

Go fuck yourself

zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-31/washington-post-caught-spreading-more-fake-news-about-russian-hackers

The CIA still hasn't produced evidence that Russia have hacked anything

He doesn't have the burden of proof. You can't prove something didn't happen.

i also didnt proof that im not a shapeshifting reptillian vampire from out of space who entrapped this whole planet into a matrix created by saturn and the moon.
does thi mean i am a shapeshifting reptillian vampire from out of space who entrapped this whole planet into a matrix created by saturn and the moon?

Hillary payed the price.

Now its time to figure out what happened user.

>refute rumors

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. The "intelligence" agencies should publicize their so called evidence because the people aren't taking their word for it.
Last time they did the Iraq war happen because of WMDs that were never there and you can see how that turned out.

Give me a source.

WaPo is one of only 7 signatories to the IFCN's Code of Principles. This makes them a trusted source for Fact-Checked material.

>>washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html?utm_term=.755449cd8011

The CIA never claimed that.

The washington post posted a story, and the CIA refuted it.

...

>newsninja2012.com/true-pundit-cia-analyst-declares-washington-post-russian-hacker-story-a-lie/

link archived for future use, expect this link to be down within a day.

>a laptop not connected to any grid systems had a common malware signature on it

>posting fake news

" The Central Intelligence Agency is declaring the Washington Post’s much-hyped story linking the Russian government to hacking the presidential election to help Donald Trump an “outright lie,” according to CIA personnel with direct knowledge of the case.

The Washington Post, in a front-page splash on Friday, fingered the CIA for allegedly confirming the wild rumors of Russian hacking that were concocted and spread by Democratic lawmakers for months preceding the election and the weeks since the GOP win. The Washington Post’s story, however, contained no CIA sources and in fact, no credible U.S. intelligence agency sources whatsoever. Instead, it hinged on what unnamed lawmakers had supposedly been told by unidentified, supposed CIA-linked sources in “secret” briefings: That the CIA had developed proof the Russian state waged an orchestrated campaign to destabilize the U.S. election to benefit GOP-candidate Trump.

“It’s an outright lie,” a CIA analyst divulged to True Pundit. “There’s nothing definitive like that. There are leads from activity originating in Finland, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Britain, France, China and Russia.”

Multiple CIA sources are now denouncing the Washington Post for knowingly reporting misleading national security intelligence. Intelligence insiders said no one in the Agency or the FBI, who is running at least one parallel inquiry, has ruled out a possible internal leak within the Democratic National Committee from actor(s) inside the United States who funneled private DNC emails to Wikileaks."

"On the rabid Sunday morning political talk show circuit yesterday, fueled by the Washington Post’s thinly-sourced yet highly-lauded reporting, Sen. John McCain implored President Elect Trump to look at the CIA-Russian information which he said was credible. McCain, however, as the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, had strangely never publicly disseminated such intelligence before Sunday. And no other elected officials have stepped up to echo his narrative or that of the Washington Post.

CIA and intelligence sources, however, quickly countered McCain’s claims as speculative at best, saying his information is simply not accurate and he, as the Arizona senator has done previously, was grandstanding for the media without knowing key facts."

how the fuck can you disprove not being a part of something? LOOK GUYS NO EVIDENCE TA DA PROVEN....

It literally doesn't matter.
Retarded DNC got their stuff leaked through a phishing attack. They are retards through and though. Podesta's password was [English noun]+[sequential numbers].

There's nothing else to discuss, Trump will be our president.

there being no proof that they hacked election is proof in an of itself that odds are they didn't
When coupled with the DNC being a insider and podesta being phished by a random blackhat
all signs point to bullshit narrative made up by king nigger and his pawns

...

10/10 m8

This isn't a story about RIGGING THE ELECTION.

It's a story about DNC CORRUPTION.

By all means stupid niggers, make this the biggest story ever, so we can point out thAt HILLARY kept an illegal server in her bathroom and China,Russia,Israel, Britain, France, shit probably Iran even, managed to infiltrate it and show how the HEAD OF THE DNC worked with HILLARY to win her the nomination. She was found out, quit, and then WORKED FOR HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN.


You are a stupid nigger

>>posting fake news
The Washington Post is a certified and trusted fact-checker.

You probably doubt Politifact too. The Russians are guilty, and Trump colluded with them.

>Trump still refuses to offer concrete evidence to refute rumors that the Russians helped him cheat the elections!
what possibly can he do to refute blank accusation? That's not how it works man.

Pic very related

The burden of proof is on the claimant, amerilard.

Burden of proof idiot.
It's not on Trump.

>I choose on which side the Burden of the proof must be according to my interests

kys.

>rumors

Why the fuck would the president need to refute rumors?

WaPo, guardian, salon, NYT, hell let's add movie studios and major video game makers....all jewed into the role of good goy.

Mountains of evidence they are compromised by cultural Marxists and hence enemies of America.

Refute that cuck

The burden of truth lies on the accuser, which has been proved wrong by various tech websites that have no political inclination and understand the report the government produced . How does it feel to be so retarded I am really curious?
arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/did-russia-tamper-with-the-2016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/

>hacking paper votes

How'd they do it, my fellow rubes?

Let's not forget the kid who likely helped make this stuff know.

Killed mysteriously outside his office, with nothing taken....

Sounds like he got Barry Sealed to me

>proving a negative

Burden of proof is on the nigger.

...

and there is near consensus that you are an idiot.

now, prove you aren't.

There is clear consensus that you can not keep dicks out of your mouth. You need to show proof against this as faggotry is a serious issue.

this fuckhead spends all day and into the night making these threads here and on Sup Forums.

either a troll or a very sad example of a basement dweller with no friends and no life who bet their entire existence on Hillary winning.

Gubmint posts 10 year old "hacking" script written by 14 year olds. Liberal bed wetters eat it up.

The Associated Press has caught Trump out in his lies.

magnets, they did it with magnets

>The election can't be hacked... what does that MEAN?

>what is burden of proof

>rapefart

>17 agencies concluded it was Russia

0 agencies concluded it was Russia. 2 said it could be Russia.

Even though it wasn't. Podesta got phished, the DNC was leaked.

>Even Faux news agrees. Explain your way out of this, faggots!
JIDF GO

The CIA presentation to senators about Russia’s intentions fell short of a formal U.S. assessment produced by all 17 intelligence agencies. A senior U.S. official said there were minor disagreements among intelligence officials about the agency’s assessment, in part because some questions remain unanswered.

For example, intelligence agencies do not have specific intelligence showing officials in the Kremlin “directing” the identified individuals to pass the Democratic emails to WikiLeaks, a second senior U.S. official said

washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.90b94971bab0

considering that this came AFTER the fireye report and the democrats used the fireeye and not the official report of the review says a lot

>IFCN
>who funded this shit I wonder
Oh look, it's George-Fucking-Soros
adam.curry.com/art/1481944650_ptUCapFj.html
Just kill yourself, you fucking kike.

I fucked your mother, and I have proof.

I can't show you this proof, though.

Now you prove that I'm lying. Otherwise it will be an absolute truth.

twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault

All in one day, an anonymous patriot within the FBI used the official FBIRecordsVault Twitter to make a series of tweets that could only be described as highly unusual. The FBIRecordsVault rarely Tweets at all, and for 17 tweets to come through just after midnight all at once perked many peoples' attention. Why did he do it? Why were the initial tweets linked to Donald Trump's father and uncle? Why all of the operation manuals? What follows is the message hidden within those tweets...
It is a fucking timeline of events

1) Trump's dad vetted by FBI Director in the 1960's

2) Trump's uncle was old-school FBI (Tesla)

3) The FBI became compromised/infiltrated via wet criminality - get people involved in your crimes so they can't expose you (Ethics Code)

4) What an investigation should look like (Manual)

5) What the Clinton investigation looked like (4 pages!?)

6) What the Petraus investigation looked like (bazillion pages)

The above 3 prove corruption within FBI, and Federal Government as a Whole, has been 100% accomplished by ~2014

7) May 2015 Baltimore - Beginning of Soros funded attempted FEDERALIZATION of police. This is an attempt to usurp States rights by the Federal Govt./Soros. Basically, this is the LAST ELECTION, LAST CHANCE - Trump has been pushing this for a long time now.

8) Donald J. Trump made honoraria FBI asset - he was RECRUITED by patriots within the FBI to do what he's doing. His uncle was well respected. They knew his dad. He's clean. They needed him. That's from the FBI Honoraria tweet. Here's some Alex Jones insider info. Trump has been many steps ahead of the game this entire time, like a prophet. Connect the dots. Dr. Steve Pieczenik is the direct link from Intelligence Agencies to Trump, he has been advising Trump for decades.

) How operations run by FBI but outside of FBI look (Trump campaign - Trump has been getting insider info all along - the Tweeted document shows it's legal to give him classified info in this case) - twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/792637205134970880

10) Stay-Behind Agents - activation of patriots embedded in enemy occupied territory within other agencies of Federal Govt. to help. Secret Service. NSA. Etc. twitter.com/FBIRecordsVault/status/792637207601225729

11) Social Networking - Sup Forums , r/the_donald conscripted to help BY FBI user, confirmed by EXACT 11AM TIME OF TWEET - Social Networking and Viral news is the only reason any of this has even been possible.

12) Physical fitness program - this was the Hillary health leaks, accomplished by above FBI operation/conscripted parties

13) FOIA - this was the Wikileaks, same as above (I previously proved Wikileaks was leaked by US AGENTS because NO CLASSIFIED MATERIALS were leaked - our boys are by the fucking BOOK)

14) FBI Seal - this is the FBI coming into the open about all of the above, via this tweeting and Dr. Pieczenik - We are part of a legitimate FBI by-the-book Operation against DOMESTIC enemies.

15) FBI now conscripting all of us (students) to help with the following:

16) Find AND EXPOSE the smoking gun...

17) ...In the Clinton Foundation.

Everyone says 'smoking gun' so much. Let me be as clear as I can: A smoking gun is something NOBODY can argue or deny, and will take down the WHOLE CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION

So far, NOTHING meets that criteria. NOT Foreign contributions. Pay to play. Corruption. Collusion. Above the law. All proven. None of it matters.

Only ONE THING will take them down for sure: Connect the PEDOPHILE RING to the CLINTON FOUNDATION.

THAT IS THE SMOKING GUN.

Dr. Steve P also steering my fellow autists in this direction:

youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q
NOBODY In power will INVESTIGATE THIS because THEY'RE ALL Implicated because THAT'S HOW THEY COMPROMISE THEM SO EFFECTIVELY - THEY put people IN CHARGE who PARTAKE - REMEMBER DENNY HASTERT - JEFFREY ESPSTEIN - If CAUGHT they do VERY LITTLE TIME

There is a world-wide Pedo-Ring connected to the CLINTON FOUNDATION, that just so happens to also be taking over the USA for good.

FIND IT AND YOU FOUND A SMOKING GUN.

>Burden of proof lies on someone accused
>W-we have evidence, we just won't show it until you disprove it
Also, can I just point out that the DNC was hacked in a phishing scam. If anything scares me it is the incompetence of the leadership. Everyone knows countries spy on each other, we do it to every other country. So it isn't that shocking or evil if Russia did do the hacks, which they didn't.

The facts are piling up. So far, I have provided proof from 4 of 6 of the fact-checking organizations that are deemed trustworthy enough to identify fake news.
>ABC News
>The Associated Press
>Factcheck.org
>PolitiFact
>Snopes
>The Washington Post Fact Checker
>Climate Feedback

These are the certified fact checkers that will soon be filtering all social media to filter out false news sources. They are strict adherants to the Code of Principles that ensure transparent and unbiased fact-checking.
>>poynter.org/fact-checkers-code-of-principles/

The days of false reporting of facts are numbered. Get used to it.

what evidence is he supposed to show?

>Even Faux news agrees.
fox news is fake news.

you still didn't prove you're not a faggot OP, explain yourself

>CIA claim

adam.curry.com/art/1481944650_ptUCapFj.html
George Soros founded that (((standard))); it has no credibility anywhere otherwise every news and media outlet would sign up to it.

>The facts are piling up. So far, I have provided proof from 4 of 6 of the fact-checking organizations that are deemed trustworthy enough to identify fake news.
Any news outlet that has to accuse others of being "fake news" are to untrustworthy to identify it. There is yet to be any concrete evidence provided that proves Russia was behind it. All I have seen is either completely circumstantial or doesn't prove Russia did it.

Exhibit A) WikiLeaks has a 10 year history of veracity. No one has ever disputed a single document, even though whole countries leadership have fallen over what has been released during that time.

Exhibit B) There is no evidence Russian hackers (who are always trying to penetrate US) found the emails.

Exhibit C) There is no evidence the Russians handed those data (emails) to Assange for publication on wikiLeaks

Exhibit D) Hillary Clinton was reported to be pissed at a number of people on election night, INCLUDING OBAMA. She felt he could have done more.

Exhibit E) Obama only released thin reports that mostly speak about how to protect a network, not detailed info on the hack or evidence showing Russia found the exact data and communicated with WikiLeaks

Exhibit F) Hillary will do anything and everything, Obama is a constitutional scholar, even he has a bar higher than crooked Hillary
This most certainly suggests the "proof" is much like WMD in Iraq, politically convenient. Obama for all he is, refused to take these actions before the election because he knew they have no real evidence and there would be calls for investigation. A BRIDGE TOO FAR.


THE CIA are conflating Russian penetration of networks, to finding and leaking data to wikiLeaks which no evidence has been provided. Lies about WMD helped another Admin not only invade a country over lies, but avoid prosecution.


Hillary needs cover for the biggest $1.8 Billion loss in a 100 years, the DNC needs cover for being washed out of government at every level. Pedosta/Hillary and the Clinton Foundation need to cover for the emails released to the public.

When Chelsea joined CF she started an investigation, she also hired a new CEO. That CEO found out a lot of bad stuff. He is now missing. He can also be the leaker. Seth Rich was found dead, Tech Lead for DNC, he can also be the leaker. Tribes in the Intel agencies also have a vendetta against the Clinton's they too can be the leakers.

>fact-checking organizations that are deemed trustworthy enough to identify fake news.
>ABC News
>The Associated Press
>Factcheck.org
>PolitiFact
>Snopes
>The Washington Post Fact Checker
>Climate Feedback

Obvious bate is obvious.

I am a Russian spy who shilled for Hillary on /pol to trick Sup Forums users into voting for Trump

He cant refute it because there is no evidence that Russia hacked anything related to the election. How do you refute when there is no evidence to refute?

They won't even stand by their own report (pic related)

Even the story about the Russians hacking the electric grid is a fabrication:

www.wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/

Fuck off kike.

IF the CIA has evidence of help the only reason they can't prove it is because it would show hacking or espionage of Russia. Posably ousting an informat.

Or maybe, just maybe people are forgetting that these "hacks" did nothing more but shed light on corruption and illegal activities.

Even if the russians or the croats, or germans or whoever did it. It had to be done since it has shown the people, the goverment, and your whole police/judical system that those people are fucking everyone over. And yet nothing was done against them, but deflect deflect deflect.

The "proof" is much like WMD in Iraq, politically convenient. Obama for all he is, refused to take these actions before the election because he knew they have no real evidence and there would be calls for investigation. A BRIDGE TOO FAR.

THE CIA are conflating Russian penetration of networks, to finding and leaking data to wikiLeaks which no evidence has been provided.
Remember: Lies about WMD helped another Admin not only invade a country over lies, but avoid prosecution.


- Hillary needs cover for the biggest $1.8 Billion campaign loss in history.

- The DNC needs cover for being washed out of government at every level since the 1920s (100 years!)

- Pedosta/Hillary and the Clinton Foundation need to cover for the emails released to the public.

- The MSM needs cover to divert away from all the lies and collusion they had with Hillary and DNC

- Liberals need cover for how they are so out of touch with reality, and how could a "monster" be elected instead of "the most qualified candidate in history"

- Obama needs cover for 180% spike in health care premium costs, and a failed legacy that will be undone by President-elect.

When Chelsea joined CF she started an investigation, she also hired a new CEO. That CEO found out a lot of bad stuff. He is now missing.

- CF CEO can also be the leaker.

- Seth Rich was found dead, Tech Lead for DNC, he can also be the leaker.

- Tribes in the Intel agencies also have a vendetta against the Clinton's they too can be the leakers.
CONCLUSION

The evidence linking Russia to emails released by WikiLeaks has not been provided.

Just like G. W. Bush and lies about WMD, not tapping our phones, rendition, black sites, saving phone data, saving internet data, spying on our allies, shit even the bay of pigs, etc...

Our intelligence agencies have been lying to congress and the American people for political reasons for a long time

>prove a negative

liberals and logic dont mix very well

sorry

wordfence.com/blog/2016/12/russia-malware-ip-hack/

WTF do you mean by "cheat the elections"?


It's funny, pretty much everyone knows exactly what Russia did and did not do - they wtfpwned a Hillary campaign stooge who fell for a shit tier Nigerian prince phishing scheme.

But the MSM has been constantly publishing "Russia Hacked* The Election*!!" headlines because they have to defend their tribe and avenge their team's loss. That's what they do.

Read the link, below the Code is a full list of the signitories. Facebook will be using these fact-checking sources to weed out fake news. Other social media will soon follow suit to comply with pressure from European governments. Work is underway to develop automated algorithms that will virtually eliminate fake news from the internet.
If this were in place a year earlier, we wouldn't be facing 4 years of the Orange Troll.

Saudi Arabia donated millions to the Clinton foundation. They essentially funded 20% of her campaign.
But please, keep talking about how "Russia unfairly got involved." All they did was release some emails from Clinton's team. Emails that, just months prior, Comey said did not contain classified information on a private server. They literally crusaded against Trump for months about "oh the private server is safe, there's nothing on there, he's just spouting hot air when he talks about emails."
And then they got hacked like literally everyone outside of the Clinton team said it would, and now they're complaining that the information leaked in the back unfairly tipped the scales because there was important information on there?
Which is it? Was the private server safe because there was nothing important in those emails and therefore it doesn't matter that they got hacked?
Or were there important classified emails on there that would tip the election,and therefore the private server is criminal?

Hillary is in a catch 22. She's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't

Get the Ministry of Truth the fuck away from the Internet.

I'm currently stuck using my phone, could any of you anons post one of the biased fact checker compilation pics? I think this guy needs to take a good long look at one of those.

The burden of proof is on the group making the claim. So far no proof. Just trust us on this, from the cia.

Nation that hacks nearly everybody on the the planet crys about getting hacked.

Uses cyber weapon against Iran and takes out their centrifuges, crys about getting hacked.

Uses NSA surveilance to listen on allies, crys about getting hacked.

The "hack" was a phishing email and the password for the gmx account without two factor authentication was "p@ssw0rd".

Whole nation sees the DNCs dirt, but somehow it is the fault of elite ruski hacker.

No proof at all, not even Monkey in charge did anything against it.
Whole world laughs about commie fucks in the US who can not accept defeat.

>Refuses to refute rumors

Rumors don't need to be refuted.

>Get the Ministry of Truth the fuck away from the Internet.
That's what the IFCN is trying to accomplish! By certifying fact checking organizations, we can rely on the trustworthiness of the news that we receive. The signatories to the Code are expected to adhere to the following principles:
>Nonpartisanship and fairness
>Transparency of sources
>Transparency of funding & organization
>Transparency of methodology
>Open and honest corrections

This is a sound doctrine for fairness in the media. How else can an electorate be given the information that they need to make the right decisions? 2016 should never be repeated.

>helped him cheat the elections
No one cheated. The American people voted based on their preexisting opinions and information they personally filtered from MSM and other sources. What leaked from the DNC emails was the truth of the Democrat party's inner workings. People had every right to know how their candidates were being nominated and be so disgusted by it that they will vote against their own party in protest.

The fact that MSM is still blatantly skirting around this issue shows that there is no chance for reform. These are the real fake news institutions and they should all be burned for the utterly useless propaganda roles they play.

His own party acknowledges the hack. Even Graham is making allegations of impropriety.

> When you are loosing so hard that you need to declare the internet a safe space

LOST THE ELECTION
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S
T

John "I leave my fellow soldiers behind for politcal gains" McCain.
Wew who would have thought.

Even if Russia did hack us, why are people focusing on that and not on all the corruption that they exposed?

>shifting burden of proof
my sides

More GOP confirmation of Russian Hacks. The facts keep stacking up, and should be undeniable by any intelligent person.

Moderately liberal website:

White House fails to make case that Russian hackers tampered with election

arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/did-russia-tamper-with-the-2016-election-bitter-debate-likely-to-rage-on/

>more neocon confirmation of russian hacks

>facts
>politicians

>facts
>government bureaucracy