Redpill me on why you don't think the holocaust happened. An opinions is not a proof

Redpill me on why you don't think the holocaust happened. An opinions is not a proof

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Because they dont and never did let people run indipendent investigations on the topic.
Truth dont fear investigation, the lie does

holocaust? What is that, give me a definition.
holocaust=gassing?

holocaust =never happend.

the holocaust did happen though. The only people who "deny" it are paranoid retards who believe in illuminati shit/hate jews for whatever reason and have a huge confirmation bias.

Hitler outright said himself he would destory the jewish race in europe

How can you prove a negative claim? The burden of proof is on those who believe that the holocaust actually happened.

well here, try to prove this guy wrong

>"h-he was tortured!"

except he never said this while on trial, he said this on his own in an interview in 2005

web.archive.org/web/20070302085046/http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,355188,00.html

And there's a ton of proof that it did, so the burden of proof is on those that deny it to prove that it didn't.

That's not proofs enough.

Because despite many years of propaganda and hundreds of million dollars of research, holocaust industry still could not provide a single proof for their allegations.

Inmates died for the following reasons.
Russian PoW political officers - Executed.
Death by complications of poor hygiene - Late war supply line shortages.
Typhus outbreak due to lack of soap and camp staff trained to treat patients - Late war supply line shortages.
Allied bombing and air attacks on deportation trains and concentration camps - Blamed on Germans.
Americans feeding rations to starving inmates killed many.

No one asks why the camps had maternity wards and day-care centers for children.

Holocaust happened. But only about 1.8 million people died. Most of them jews, but also hundreds of thousands of gypsies and political opponents, who were the first victims.

Didn't OP say "opinion is not a proof"?

holocaust revisionism does not equal antisemitism.
The holocaust wasn't a purely Jewish experience.
Equating revisionism to racial hatred is an ad hominem tactic to suppress the truth and demonize academic investigation.

Hardly - that's like saying the burden of proof is on those that believe WW2 or the American Civil War happened. Clearly that would be retarded since both events are recognized as historic fact - so is the holocaust.

Look it up on Youtube brainlet. Do your research.

It's really not about that, most people agree that it happened, it's just that the number is a bit over inflated. Oh, and countless survivors constantly make up ridiculous stories so they can exploit the tragedy, holocaust industry is a pretty good book to read about this

Yeah, its all an hoax. But it doesnt matter because NatSoc fags still destroyed europe so their ideology is still confirmed as cancer.

Why did so many survive if the goal was to exterminate them?

>eye witness account is an opinion

Not an argument. Also, look up Kurt gerstein was and the "Gerstein report"

>Stein?! Fuck dat kike!!

He was an SS officer

You can also just go places where battles happened and dig up tons of ammunitions and other stuff.

Because the Holocaust was a hoax, or a million other possible reasons. You havn't offered any evidence by asking that question.

Inmates died for many reasons. There were no homicidal gas chambers.
The myth began with electrocution floors, hot steam chambers, diesel exhaust chambers, etc etc
Diesel exhaust gas chambers was still believed and used to convict people into the 1960s!
The story is they used "tank engines" to create exhaust but that is retarded when the world already had wood gas engines which would have been way more efficient.

>2017
>still not redpilled on the holohoax

But both events are also well documented - Holocaust is a mere conspiracy theory without any documents that prove it. It belongs to the same category as "are there aliens in Area 51" - everyone heard about it, and many people believe it, but since there was nothing produced so far to prove or disprove it, it's just a bullshit hoax.

Jews cannot die unless pierced with silver poles.

>holocaust revisionism does not equal antisemitism.

This would be easier to believe if the main proponents of holocaust denial weren't so closely affiliated with the far right and anti-semitism though. As for the holocaust being a more universal experience - of course, many hundreds of thousands of gays, jehovah witness, gypsies, and social and political undesirables were murdered as well. Deniers, with their focus on some massive Jew conspiracy, conveniently ignore this fact as it doesn't fit their narrative. Fortunately it is well documented by real historians.

Sorry OP, im from Holland... if i do that i will be thrown in jail.

This, it did happen. Nazi Germany despised Jews. Sup Forums despises Jews and wants them in ovens. Yet it's apparently so crazy to think the Nazis would actually start killing them (with added German efficiency and work ethic). The actual number is not important, just like how it "only" being 1.5M Armenians killed doesn't make it any less horrible.

What does get on my nerves is Jews still making sob stories and hollywood movies out of it. But jews will be jews.

Eye witnesses are hearsay, they are meant to lead to real evidence they aren't evidence themselves.
Here are some "eye witnesses"
youtube.com/watch?v=RvtLQviQRqo
youtube.com/watch?v=cgZOBVqzHyo

I've seen cases of normal people being prosecuted because of holocaust investigations.

Don't you dare spread FAKE NEWS you fucking shill

>Eye witnesses are hearsay

no they arent, not when other reports line up with what they have said.

Also, ask yourself why literally NO, as in not even ONE nazi denied the holocaust happened while on trial.

>It's illegal to deny
>it's the go to 'argument' our enemies use
>it's illegal to research and come to a different conclusion than them
It's just another straw man-meme the powers that be use. Just like 'Sky daddy', 'chosen people', muh democracy, freedom!!! - but in-between the lines it is stated that free will doesn't exist..

If it did happen and if it was actually horrible, it would be celebrated like the French Revolution or 'understood' like the bolshevik revolution.

>holocaust revisionism does not equal antisemitism.

who are you trying to fool with this? At least stop being a coward about what you believe because no one is even buying this type of line

No.

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If it did happen, Jews have been dancing on their ancestors' ashes for political gain. If it did not...

>>it's illegal to research and come to a different conclusion than them

but the problem is theres never any research done. You guys just spout lies and then get mad when people call you on them.

like the whole red cross excuse. This was debunked in the 70s by the red cross themselves and yet I still see people using it on this board.

And not just that. It seems the entire belief of deniers is based on nothing but bullshit. from the idea that Hitler let the british go at dunkirk because hes so nice, to the idea that Hitler invaded Poland because of a supposed massacre of ethnic germans (the irony of this one is hillarious) to the whole "Eisnehower had death camps for german civilians!" idea.

all are made up bullshit based on half truthes or are just full 100% lies. This is why no one takes you guys seriously

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One out of 100000 right?

All the "holocaust victims" bodies are pale white.
Some "eyewitness" even describe the bodies as being black and blue.
Watch from 1:30:00 to 1:32:50
youtu.be/hIRaYCRF69s?t=5408

jamesjmurray.blog/2015/03/04/cyanide-a-classic-murder-weapon/
>The most notable telltale sign of cyanide poisoning is an unusually pink color to the victim’s skin (or even cherry-red) because oxygen remains in the blood rather than transferring to the body’s cells. The body is simply starved for oxygen. The victim may breathe rapidly and have an initial fast heartbeat that slows as oxygen starvation progresses.

emedicinehealth.com/cyanide_poisoning/article_em.htm
>The skin may be unusually pink or cherry-red, breathing may be fast, and heartbeat may be slow or fast.

Where are the photos of bodies with dark red and pink patches of skin discoloration from cyanide gassing?
No liberators or survivors describe bodies with cyanide discoloration because
1). They don't know what cyanide does
2). It didn't happen.

Wow that's a sharp turnout. What's it? 1:6?

Also looks like meter Gauge to me

it makes more sense that gas chambers were used to kill people with disease rather than let the whole camp be infected

gassing, burning bodies, its exactly what you do to prevent spread of a disease

I just find it annoying how much over importance the media puts on it. The Armenian genocide, nanking massacre, and countless other tragedies are nowhere near as talked about as the holocaust. The holocaust isn't the ultimate tragedy, yet there's so much attention on it. Another thing is, is that's illegal to question it in certain countries. If some idiot doesn't believe it happened, let him, he shouldn't be thrown in jail for it. So much freedom of speech, right?

What the fuck is "Gaszeit"?
Did they have crappy google translate in black and white time?

The number were beyond exaggerated, that's the thing. 6 million died in camps? That's impossible to accomplish.

>they were killing people to prevent the spread of diseases

yeah, thats still murdering them and is still a crime. So you agree that it happened, but think they deserved it.

you guys are way more obsessed with the holocaust than the general public is though. And just because you dont like jews doesnt mean the event isnt historically important

Congratulations on finding a photo from Dachau clothing fumigation chamber.
Dachau is not an alleged "death camp".
Also the narrative is that "the prisoners were tricked into going in the room! It's just a shower!"
Why would you put "Warning! Gas! Don't go in!" on the door and sometimes even post hours of operation for fumigation rooms if you were trying to trick people into entering?

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Also explain this.

>6 million died in camps? That's impossible to accomplish.

literally no one has EVER said that all the victims died in the camps. You should at least know the official narrative before you start denying it.

Holocaust did happen. But why is it a crime to kill creatures that are sub-human? Is it wrong to kill rats and cockroaches?

No, it didn't.

How about the real horrors of Japan's Unit 731? Those people were never tried as criminal because they US made a deal to obtain their information on human experimentation.

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>you guys are way more obsessed with the holocaust than the general public
If that was true then it wouldn't literally be mentioned in several country's LAWS which forbid discussing it. There are no laws that make it illegal to discuss how many people Genghis Khan killed or how many people died during the French Revolution, yet the Holocaust is there. We're not talking about old laws either, they passed a law in the United States just last month which make it illegal to claim the Holocaust number were exaggerated. How's that for the holocaust being a non-issue that only Sup Forums cares about?

The entire Axis forces had around 8 million casualties during the entire period of WW2.
Some how just the Germans were able to kill 6 million in less time.
Not to mention had time to, torture people to death, do human experimentation, remove gold teeth from corpses, burn all bodies and bones to friable ash, hide evidence, deconstruct gas chambers, gas people in rooms with 1 door in and out and drag thousands of people out of rooms, and at Treblinka they gassed people, buried them, dug them back up, cremated them and reburied them.
How about no.....

Theratened families and did serious things to their balls. At one point even one official addmited 1000000 jews arrived from Bulgaria and were instantly exterminated when the post WW2 Jewish population of Bulgaria was only of 60000 jews. He was trying to send a message.

>mauthausen
This picture claims it was investigated and proven to not be a death camp.

If I were to go to Auschwitz and ask why the gas room doors are wooden, would I get in trouble?

Good job everyone

>Mauthausen
Even (((historians))) addmit it wasn't a death camp. Gas chambers were used to clean clothes (against typhus) or were built after the war to frame the Germans.

>This would be easier to believe if the main proponents of holocaust denial weren't so closely affiliated with the far right and anti-semitism though
Then stop associating holocaust denial with anti-semitism, duh.

>not even ONE nazi denied the holocaust happened while on trial
They were tortured. The Nuremberg trial used torture. It's not even a secret. Each and everyone of the german suspects was tortured until they signed a confession. They smeared the prisoners in feces and stomped on their genitals. This is not hearsay. It's facts. The american politicans of that time period acknowledge it.

>An opinion is not proof
There you did it yourself.

Don't try it just in case. Some 80 yo lady is in jail for something similar together with other old people. Kikes are vile.

4 million jews died in all camps combined

soviets argue that in total, 4 million people died in auschwitz

figure is never accepts by anyone else

sign is changed to the specifics after the USSR collapses

>Theratened families and did serious things to their balls

never happened to anyone at nuremberg. This also doesnt make any sense. If they were threatened and tortured into admitting guilt, then why did some of them argue their innocence on the famous "just following orders" excuse?

>picture claims

so what? I can make a picture claiming the moon is made of blue cheese. stop pretending to be a skeptic and actually start being one

[citation needed]

historians all agree that mauthausen did in fact use gas chambers. They built one into the camp in 1940. Before it was built, they would ship them off to other places and then started using gas vans like pic related

Looks like a small room, totally designed for killing hundreds and thousands all at once.
Where is the cyanide staining?
BTW the story behind this chamber is that "only the exhausting system was disassembled before liberation" or it never had one because it's a shower room?
This camp is also connected to the "mobile gas chamber van myth".
No mobile gas vans have ever been found and only 3 alleged photos exist, all considered fake.

>so what? I can make a picture claiming the moon is made of blue cheese. stop pretending to be a skeptic and actually start being one
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen-Gusen_concentration_camp
They said people was killed throgh labour not gas chambers (top kek)

>Theratened families and did serious things to their balls
darkmoon.me/2015/torture-and-testicle-crushing-at-nuremberg/

>soviets argue that in total, 4 million people died in auschwitz
So dis your retarded grandfathers. But then they relised it was to ridiculous and change it but never changed the total number (6 gorillion).

>holocaust revisionism does not equal antisemitism.

>Kikes are vile.


really made me think

Jasenovac, Sajmište and Jadovno (Gospić) were very much extermination camps. Sajmište and Jadovno were closed before the end of the war, while Jasenovac was liberated by Yugoslav Partisans. And we aren't talking about Jews or Gypsies here, we're talking about white Europeans (Serbs). So that's pretty fucking horrible.

nice glass windows. hahaaha

The point of the picture is that it brings something to your attention and you're supposed to fucking google it.

lmgtfy.com/?q=was mauthausen a death camp
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauthausen-Gusen_concentration_camp

"Extermination through labor", in other words, they couldn't prove that people died of anything other than WW2 stress and famine. No gassing. Why did you bother posting a metal door of a camp from which there is no claim of gassing?

Wooden door for the gas chambers
Lack of investigation

Source: (((Wikipedia))) are you happy now?

Then go to Germany and claim 6000000 is a too big number. You will be put in jail. Isn't this vileness?

Because the Nazi's knew there was no hope of a fair trial so they sabotaged the story with absurd claims.
People personally admitted they presided over the deaths of millions.
Claiming the piles of clothes of dead were hundred feet high.
Claiming blood squirting from the ground like fountains from so many berried dead.
Claiming that a soviet submarine engine was used for diesel exhaust gas chamber.

>gas vans

SeePeople was thrown into da faiah right?

Pro-Gassing Myth people are so paranoid they think any metal door is sinister intent!

>white europeans(serbs)
>not white

Btw I'm not trying to say that all of the victims there were Serbs. There were also Jews and Gypsies, and treating them like that was also horrible.

(((GERSTEIN)))

>They said people was killed throgh labour not gas chambers (top kek)


> Initially, the camp did not have a gas chamber of its own and the so-called Muselmänner, or prisoners who were too sick to work, after being maltreated, under-nourished or exhausted, were then transferred to other concentration camps for extermination (mostly to the infamous Hartheim Euthanasia Centre,[39] which was 40.7 kilometres or 25.3 miles away), or killed by lethal injection and cremated in the local crematorium. The growing number of prisoners made the system too expensive and from 1940, Mauthausen was one of the few camps in the West to use a gas chamber on a regular basis. In the beginning, an improvised mobile gas chamber – a van with the exhaust pipe connected to the inside – shuttled between Mauthausen and Gusen.[40] It was capable of killing about 120 prisoners at a time when it was completed.[41][42]

good job proving yourself wrong with your own source user.


>darkmoon.me

quality source there lol. Also, who cares if POWs were tortured? How does this change the fact that no one, from Goring to Eichmann, ever denied that the holocaust happened?


>But then they relised it was to ridiculous and change it but never changed the total number (6 gorillion).

>4 million PEOPLE vs 1.5 million MAINLY JEWS

still doesnt even interfere with the 6 million figure. Soviets didnt claim 4 million JEWs at auschwitz died, but 4 million prisonders in total died. Also, this soviet figure was never accepted by anyone in the west anyway, and it was never factored into the 6 million figure in the first place.

Nice meme

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It's a joke to me that's not even remotely believable.

Anyone who accepts it is a slave.

According to that prior account though it should have been called the Holocoaster

((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Der Spiegel)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>being so ignorant on the topic he doesnt even know what gas vans are.

Heres a fun experiment, put the exahuast of your car into your face and breath it while locked in your garage and see how long you can survive

>resorting to "le silly jokes/memes" when you realize you lost the argument and have nothing to articulate

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quality source there lol. Also, who cares if POWs were tortured? How does this change the fact that no one, from Goring to Eichmann, ever denied that the holocaust happened?
If it's not jewpedia it's not a source.
You are a mastermind sire.
Also they didn't deny it because if they had done it their balls would have been crushed or something worst as I said.

>MAINLY JEWS
Still no only Jews you fucking retard. The history doesn't make any fucking sense. Now they gassed slavs too or what?

Sometimes I think we should've let the Soviets run Germany after ww2.

archive.is/TZ1Sz

holodomorinfo.com/

>The violent seizure of Russia by Jewish Bolsheviks in 1917 represented the ultimate terrorist act in the Jewish agenda since the assassination of The 1881 assassination of Tsar Alexander II Tsar Alexander II by Jewish terrorist Vera Figner. Yet typically as with the Jewish propaganda that incited the so called ‘pogrom’ the rest of Europe was not to know the real terror visited upon their Eastern brethren by the alien parasite now in control of their land.

OYY VEYY Germans need to die. They made soap of my 6 grandfathers can you believe it?

So you believe that
>15 people were pushed into a little car
>Left to go slide along 900 yards
>Hit a wall
>Automatically open a door
>Pitch the chosen into a fiery tomb

I think you're in the silly meme camp m8

Jews weren't gassed, they were turned into dust by experimental atomic weapons.

Going full circle to the carbon monoxide myth.
Here's a hint, diesel takes a very long time to kill as a carbon monoxide source.
Wood gas is both mechanically simpler and make more CO.
Why not just run them over with the van?

>An opinions is not a proof

Well you've just discarded everything that "proves" it happened.

>Debunking your own thread before the first post
>Africans