This is a thread to discuss socialism, communism, market socialism, anarchism (non national or capatalist) and democratic socialism. Strasserism is okay, too.
COMMON ARGUMENT
>human nature
Human nature is defined based on material conditions.
>Venezuela
Price control and nationalization of large industry is not socialism. The currency is currently under attack. Beware the media pushing narratives when it comes to socialism, too.
>People aren't equal
Because we live under capitalism.
>Capitalism is voluntary
Voluntary in the sense you will starve to death if you don't take part, and it's a federal crime in the united states to live off the grid.
>Socialism killed 100000000 people
1. Not an argument. 2. Profit motive has been the biggest motivator for most wars, so capitalism's bodycount is even bigger. 3. Capitalism does not, has not, and never will function without slavery.
>Read economics
There is more than one school of economic thought. Socialists believe in solving problems through economics, you fell for the capitalist meme.
>Property
Personal property are commodities you acquired in a socially fair manner. Like houses, cars, etc.
Private property is treatment of labour as a commodity, its fruits and means. Like factories, farms, and other means of production.
>Communism >ever functioning without slavery AHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEOHOHOHO
This is now a YLYL thread.
Jack Johnson
Contributing
Charles Fisher
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John Brooks
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Noah Morris
Rebuttals to each of those arguments was posted in the last thread and you ignored them
Maybe if you ignore reality hard enough your Marxist bullshit will actually work out, quantum physics says there is at least SOME chance it'll happen. Then again it also says air could spontaneously turn into pudding
Owen Peterson
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Jonathan Powell
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Charles Diaz
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Daniel Cruz
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Nicholas Evans
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Jeremiah Powell
[citation needed]
:^)
Landon Smith
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Daniel Allen
Socialism is just industrialised feudalism.
Sebastian Perry
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Christian Perry
Communism is a pipe dream and a stupid one at that.
One individual taking advantage of his fellows and your precious Marxist nonsense is doomed to collapse.
Angel Taylor
>i-it will work this time guis i swear!
Alexander Fisher
>tfw not big on gommunism >tfw not big on capitalism but without reverting to pre-industrial conditions you see no viable alternative >tfw autists bicker over which economic system to use without realising that an economic system is not a substitute for actual leadership and transcendental goals
Modernity is pretty gay tbqh
William Collins
Right here you autistic faggotYour ideology is completely untenable and no amount of shitposting will change that fact
Bentley Bailey
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Tyler Butler
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Benjamin Fisher
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Cooper Smith
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Isaiah Clark
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Jaxon Collins
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Charles Ward
fucking disgusting commies
glad we'll never see a successful communist nation in our lifetime
Justin Torres
People aren't equal and shouldn't be treated as such user and merely blaming capitalism for inequality isn't an argument :^)
Josiah Martin
>perform pooja fucking hell india
Tyler Long
Only a fucking leaf would do this shit tier thread.
Ayden Stewart
>Not embracing corporatism autarky and third position fascist economics in general Pleb
Charles Hernandez
A thread for shit desu
Christian Jones
>Price control is not socialism Neither is any socialist country ever, kek
David Barnes
Some also believe in the "toilet witch" which attacks you if you use one.
Gabriel Rogers
>pulls shirt ... and so on and so on
Wyatt Stewart
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Jonathan Brooks
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Benjamin Ramirez
op is a massive fag who cant stop gagging on bbc
Gavin Bell
behavioural sciences and ecology would be a good start for people like you, who see humans as transcendent beings
Kayden Brown
Now that, good sir, is a quality looking piece of advertisement.
What do you guys think about Catalonia during the Spanish Civil war? I've always considered myself a centre-left authoritarian, but I read about their society and found it really intriguing.
Jackson Thomas
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Jaxson Garcia
Here, now it's much better.
Jonathan Walker
I support this thread. Demsoc here; the struggle continues.
Eli White
shhhh. They think that biology is a burgeois construct designed to oppress the masses. If only they had "actual" equality, then everybody will have the same height and look the same. It's all in the social and political institutions, user. That's how they got Lysenkoism and famine.
Jayden Scott
I learned to see the interests of the intellectual class behind communism. They're the ones that under the guise of "justice" and "equality" enslave the proletariat and kill the entrepreneurs.
Nathan Torres
I sympathize with the idea of socialism, but I'm skeptical of the implementation of such a system.
Jonathan Kelly
this happened in a capitalist state
Dylan Anderson
>a fucking leaf
Jose Johnson
pure ideology
Landon Allen
heres ya third position
Matthew Gutierrez
wish i had continued
Jace Thomas
That's just socialism: race war edition
Blake Peterson
Go fuck yourself communism never work and will never work, even Aristotle spoke of a rudimentary form of it in politics "if you make everything public the individual has no drive to contribute to the society" -paraphrased
Kevin Butler
Hi comrades.
Brayden Wright
>capitalism >ever working without slavery AHAHAHAHEHEHEHEHEOHOHOHO
Jason Jenkins
>work or starve >"""voluntary"""
Jace Wright
>Help! I'm being enslaved!
Jason Adams
This happened in crapitalism.
Josiah Butler
>starve I hate this meme. Literally no one starves in capitalist countries. Unlike communist countries...
>inb4 you claim some tribal african shithole is "capitalism"
David Phillips
I'm taking over Tuvalu.
Alexander Brooks
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Brandon Davis
The average black person might commit more crimes but people aren't averages and you shouldn't people based on the average.
Elijah Brown
>be socialist >class struggle encompasses my nation >must fight for workers rights >myself and my fellow man arms himself >a battle ensues to seize the means of production >means seized >try to make a nation for workers >fuck up royally >put power in hands of a few aristocrat """workers""" >economy dies >no food >no money >realize error of my ways >tfw faggots on /leftypol/ safespace think I am not a socialist
Wyatt Parker
Because everyone works.
Adam Cox
Really made me think.
Logan Barnes
Fuck off cuck.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
Benjamin Walker
The bong is right.
Not all black people are niggers but a good fucking majority of them are.
Evan Diaz
So the stereotype that all men are rapist's is true?
Ayden Wood
Men commit more rapes than women, yes.
Austin Martin
So whenever you meet a man you should 100% judge them by that fact?
Logan Baker
Judge people by there behavior not stereotypes.
Blake Kelly
No, but you will be wary of a "new" man until you get to know him. Same for niggers. And both happen for a reason.
Brandon Harris
>muh 400 billion trillion
Ethan Perez
>muh Cultural Marxism
Henry Powell
If you're a woman walking alone at night you should be more on the lookout for men than for women, yes.
Do you also believe one should react the same way if one encounters a grizzly bear or a chihuahua? After all, they're both mammals.
Colton Long
So your fine with a feminist calling you a rapist based on the fact your a man?
Joseph Reyes
PURE IDEOLOGY
Cooper Clark
Not an argument.
Anthony Campbell
LARP LARP Cast fire
Jaxon Miller
what's the socialist argument against centrally planned capitalism?
by this i mean the central planning in place within nazi Germany, the central planning france used (dirigisme) the tariff/central bank/public works American system and the system that will now begin to develop under Trump. not to mention the corporatism of Switzerland.
mixed economics which unite the market with central planning beats basic socialism and capitalism every time.
Ethan Mitchell
Communism is just a giant pyramid scheme on a national level.
Charles Nguyen
>I'll shift the goalposts and hope they won't notice!
Jack Ramirez
>Not an argument. Look at your other posts, sperg
Isaiah Thomas
How do you even make this leap and where is the analogy to niggers?
Juan Lee
Wrong. Nice revisionist memes though.
Carson Allen
Nah that's the Polish retirement fund.
Ryder Nguyen
You call all blacks niggers right?
Lucas Lewis
Catalonia should be used as a model for future attempts at socialism, with consideration made to correct their mistakes, of course.
Eli Morgan
>not REAL capitalism (despite fitting every point of capitalism)
Logan Brown
Planned capitalism is still capitalism, meaning that more successful people will still earn higher incomes and hold more important positions than the average pleb, even if his position is within a structure directed by the government. This angers the angry NEET virgin socialist.
Carter Richardson
Yes, and? Does "nigger" imply they'll mug me?
Jace Sanchez
>(despite fitting every point of capitalism) You mean none of the points.
Jack Ortiz
Human nature is not defined by material conditions.
Dumb fucking statement.
////You can't change basic psychology to fit your retarded argument.
Brayden Hughes
well fuck them, what we should care about is economic efficiency and the welfare of our people, nothing else.
Asher Adams
It seems to. Most people complain about "niggers" and are talking clearly about the entire race.
Ryan Morgan
>meaning that more successful people will still earn higher incomes And there you have it, folks. Communism: Losers hating successful people.
Gavin Peterson
>private possession of economic power check >non-owners must sell their labor and its fruits or face starvation check >state that primarily functions in the interests of the propertied class check
Thomas Anderson
And that's because a statistically significant amount of niggers pulls everyone around them down. While the part of males that rape is not actually statistically significant unless you live in Africa.
Jayden Jenkins
According to 16th century politics, the divine right of kings was human nature. Just some perspective.
