Smoking Cannabis
Prostitution
Gambling
Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM
Dressing immodestly outside of the home
Pretending to be another gender
Adultery
No fault divorce
Pornography
Do you agree Sup Forums?
no, I'm not comfortable with giving the state more power over individuals.
if the state stopped interfering in and complicating people's lives perhaps less of them would turn to degenerate behaviours to cope.
The more the state rolled back these sorts of controls the more people did them. You ignore evidence, probably because you partake in some of these activities and that is your way of excusing it.
That's the exact opposite of true.
Nope. Legalised divorce, divorce went up, legalised adultery, adultery went up, legalised drugs, drug use went up, legalised gambling, gambling goes up. Legalised gays and their deviance spreads, which is why every generation in the USA is more gay than the last one.
You are just too liberal and cannot see the reality.
No. These actions have no negative externalities and all parties involved consent to them, so the government has no business regulating them.
(The only arguable exception to that is abortion.)
All wrong.
Every single one of those was made legal because the rates of use skyrocketed while it was illegal.
you're projecting, Ivan.
it people lived in tight knit communities with their loved ones and people who shared their values and did meaningful work in that community, they wouldn't be shooting heroin. they wouldn't even have a reason.
No, they were made legal because of the liberal agenda to destroy society and induce hyper-individualism to destroy morality.
>negative externalities
define it
people will always suffer on this earth, it is not an excuse to allow drug use.
The only people who cause issues with the things you mentioned have no semblance of self control anyways. They are animals in a human's body. Stoners are people who smoke way too often. They use a lot of their disposable income on a fucking plant to try and escape from reality for a little while. Prostitution is only bad because of STDs and the underground criminal element it is forced to align with. Gambling is like turning on a fucking bug zapper. The flies all flock to what they think is the light, only for it to destroy them. People with no self control or common sense ever need to abort children, sans reasons you previously mentioned. Homosexuality harms no one, so long as it doesn't become someone's primary identifying factor. Immodest dressing is a product of religious fundamentalist ideals trying to, in vain, create a society where ficki ficki doesn't happen. This sexualizes every inch of skin or hair, meaning miss ackbar accidentally flashing her ankle leads to her rape and honor killing. Don't tell people not to rape, just put the rapists to death. Pretending to be another gender doesn't harm anyone, so long as the deluded fucker doesn't lie to other people. Be upfront to avoid burial in the hills. Adultery and divorce stem from impulsive morons marrying before they figure out their partner is lying to them. Porn is a toss up for me.
>people will always suffer on this earth, it is not an excuse to allow drug use
drug will be used regardless of laws. drugs are used by people who are suffering. the meddling of the state increases suffering. prohibition increases suffering.
>Homosexuality harms no one, so long as it doesn't become someone's primary identifying factor.
>Pretending to be another gender doesn't harm anyone, so long as the deluded fucker doesn't lie to other people
Opinion discarded, return to That is why you make the punishment worse than anything else, forced labour for a decade or so or death sentences will do the trick.
>That is why you make the punishment worse than anything else, forced labour for a decade or so or death sentences will do the trick.
funny that the nations with such policies are third world shitholes.
Funny that the ones without it are liberal and falling to the people of those countries.
Why should I go to that cesspool? Homosexuality literally harms no one, so long as aids is out of the picture.
Funny how that is still a product of the first-worlder's will, misguided as it is.
Damn now I understand where the Russians get there op depressive literature from
Homosexuality is a moral pollutant on the society, making other things acceptable, and taking people away from their biological roles.
The fact that these things exist, and in the amounts they do, is evidence of a greater problem.
Government control is not the answer.
People used to be ashamed to admit to just about any of those for fear of being ostracized by their family, friends, and community for being a degenerate. Now they are celebrated.
A resurgence in family values, community values, and insane asylums would go a long way to fixing things.
You cannot make those values come back without force of the state, those values originally came from the power of the churches after all.
reform education, reform media. that's all it takes to transform social values. you don't need to set up gulags.
I'd argue that homosexuality, being seen as deviant, attracts people who are deviant to it, helping to reinforce the social attitude towards homosexuality.
Again, homosexuals who don't use their sexuality as a primary identity tend to not be faggots.
All homosexuals are faggots.
Are all black men niggers?
Yes, obviously.
>Smoking Cannabis
>Prostitution
>Gambling
>Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
>Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM
>Dressing immodestly outside of the home
>Pretending to be another gender
>Adultery
>No fault divorce
>Pornography
Literally none of that should be illegal. A lot of that wont have place in my home, but we should strive for more personal freedoms, not less.
Pretty sure that's why you fell
Are all ruskies gopnik?
we arent muslims op, hows chechnya?
No, gopniks are a subculture like chavs or fat americans.
>russian wants more repressions
More news by 6.
>wanting to lock people up for doing things you don't like ie weed pornography
Lmao kill yourself you russian nigger
>reform education, reform media.
That would help quite a bit. I can't believe the amount of faggotry in entertainment, especially in the last decade. For an estimated 10% of the population they are grossly over-represented, and ideally wouldn't have any place in entertainment. Hollywood is a corrupt mouthpiece for degeneracy.
As for the US, Education has been on the slow path downward since the inception of the Dept. of Education. Money should go back to the states and let states run their education like they used to do prior to the 1970s.
So are niggers and faggots. A subculture, a cancer.
Niggers and faggots are just other words for the entire groups.
>fat americans
>just a subculture
breh...
Externalities are ways in which interactions affect people who are not directly involved in them. So negative externalities are just the subset of externalities that are negative.
For example, if a car salesmen sells a gas-guzzling car to a consumer, that interaction has a negative externality: the car pollutes the air, reducing the air quality for people not involved in the interaction.
>bdsm
>hating on the thinking man's fetish
and yet the strength of insult is greater to coincide with the strength of the degeneracy.
Strengthen the religious core of the nation and the rest will fall into place without the need for excessive state interference.
People seen as degenerate will be dealt with by communities, no state mandated trial, prison, or execution needed.
You could make these things illegal without the religious core being strong, but degenerates will do it anyway because they will always figure out how to get away with it.
Only point I disagree with is marijuana use, all plants put on Earth by God are there for us to use responsibly - no drug is inherently degenerate, only those who abuse them.
>gambling
Gambling is fine
>adultery
Only if in a monogamous marriage, it's essentially breaking a contract.
>porno
Porno is fine
>Dressing immodestly outside of the home
Already laws about this, personally I just don't like unfashionableness (ie sweatpants and t shirts with brands on them). No problem with guys walking around topless or women in short skirts it they can pull it off.
>No fault divorce
I think marriage contracts, the terms and conditions and consequences of breaking them should be decided by the couple initially, within reason. A private contract enforce by the state, not a contract defined by the state.
>homos and trannies
I don't care but I don't think it should be encouraged
>cannabis
I don't care either way, but if you want to ban that then alcohol should be banned too.
I personally want the friend to offend (not harm). I don't think anything should be censored or banned purely because it may offend someone as it's entirely subjective
Damn, I'm surprised a Muslim made it within Russia's borders.
Most of all I don't give a shit as song as taxes don't go towards paying for welfare for bums.
I disagree with everything you said, it is not the duty of a state to limit personal freedom.
things that should not be illegal.
>drugs
>prostitution
>gambling
>any sexual behavior between consenting adults
>suicide, assisted or otherwise
>self mutilation (trans)
No group of people should be able to dictate what I can and can not do with my body
I agree with everything but the prostitution and gambling. Its in our blood to gamble and fuck whores
The sound of freedom
Can't argue with that
You forgot bestiality
Whether or not you want to call all homos fags or all blacks niggers, doesn't change the fact that there is a huge range of people within these groups. Sure there may be a high percentage of undesirable people in each of the communities but to deny the fact that productive, well adjusted, quality individuals exist within these groups is just stupid, no one chooses to be here, let actions dictate someones worth.
prostitution and gambling = marriage and investing
laws have been hugely ineffective in controlling degeneracy, where there's a will there's a way. Drugs, pedophilia, prostitution, guns, gambling all have massive underground markets despite the possibility of incarceration. Unless you want to go full Duterte on people you will never see laws reduce these behaviors. It's one of the main anti gun regulation argument in the states, there are plenty of guns here already, and the more regulation, the more difficult you make it for the most upstanding members of society to have weapons. Only those who interact with shady people will have full access
this. anything else is statist, pseudo-intellectual faggotry of the highest order. you aren't strong or intelligent if you need a state to hold your hand from the cradle to the grave
you're alright with crystal meth zombies roaming your streets?
they do something illegal like steal, trespass, assault someone, and they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
I was expecting you to condone shooting them in the face with your legally owned firearms, USA is becoming more beta by the day
Fuck off Mohammed
i see that you've gone ahead and assumed that prohibition is effective
You forgot anime
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so if Cocaine were legal we would be seeing less of it?
Lemme guess, you're an east-indian who hates that there are no shitskins?
>Smoking Cannabis
No
>Prostitution
No
>Gambling
No
>Abortion besides saving the life of the mother and for deformed children
Yes
>Homosexuality, Sodomy and other sexual deviance such as sexual subgroups like BDSM
Yes
>Dressing immodestly outside of the home
Yes
>Pretending to be another gender
Yes
>Adultery
Maybe
>No fault divorce
Yes
>Pornography
Yes