Left and right don't exist...

Left and right don't exist. I see a lot of low IQ redditor newfags on this board talking about how the right will make a comeback and other such retarded horseshit. If you are one of these people Sup Forums is not for you. a true Sup Forumsack doesn't fall for the left vs right narrative and hates jewish nepotism.

In reality left and right is a hodge podge of random ideas that happen to appeal to the lowest common denominator enough to elect politicians. Both sides have ideas that are true and ideas that fall apart under scientific scrutiny.

The truth is Sup Forums's average IQ dropped with the influx of all these conservashit newfags thinking Sup Forums is a place for "alternative conservative media" like breitbart. Conservatism is almost as a retarded as the regressive movement, with the except that at least their ideas have proven that societies can be built off of them.

Here's the actual, unfettered truth from someone with high IQ and high NFC:
anthropogenic climate change is real, but exaggerators like al gore are just as retarded as the deniers. The effect will eventually snowball unless humans change something (which they probably will in the next 100 years.)
There's no god.
There are differences between the races that include intelligence and tendency to commit crimes.
Welfare is good, but only if you discriminate harshly about who you help. Some people will actually likely pay back into the system after they have been helped. We already have the means to figure out who these people are, if we accept the next point.
IQ is the most important factor in determining the success of any individual, and societies are wholly dependent on having a high IQ population. Race aside, humanity would be better off as a whole if it were full of "intelligent cooperators", regardless of what race those humans were. That means people who are smart and are willing to help one another. Increasing the average IQ should be the utmost priority for all societies.

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>calls people newfags
>only knows baby's first redpills

Pls, kys

Also
>welfare is good
Lol

How do you propose to increase IQ?

I worked as a teacher about 5 years ago. Quit for variety of reasons, one was I just couldn't see the current education system giving any real benefit to the students. Seemed designed to encourage brain dead slave mindset.

>doesn't understand that Sup Forums is now full of babbies who fell for the conservatism vs progressisvism meme and require spoonfeeding
>mexican intellectuals

>there's no god
stop reading here

China seems to have already understood that IQ is the most important trait and are already using government funds to research creating super-intelligent humans with all the intelligence genes switched on. Aside from eugenic technologies like that nothing can affect it on a wide scale except for social upheaval.

Would you honestly say that conservatism is just as retarded as progressivism? I agree with most of what you are saying, but the left/right dichotomy isn't going to just fade away. I think many people realize that Sup Forums's goals can be more effectively advanced by conservatives than progressives, even if they don't agree with every conservative idea. That's why I supported Trump, even though I think he's wrong in some respects

well I would've wrote that christian values are good for society, but there weren't enough characters.
That doesn't change that god isn't real, pablo. Maybe you should go back to breitbart.

And obviously pol isn't one person, but the majority probably agree on most things like economic conservatism, anti-immigration policies, racial realism, etc

considering that both are ideologies that depend on appealing to morons, then yes I would say that. If I had more space I would have wrote that restricting voting rights would also be hugely beneficial.

And if you read the OP carefully, you'll see that I said that conservatism is ALMOST as retarded as progressisivism.

ur retarded

this is exactly the kind of reddit-tier post that's wrong with this board. This person almost assuredly has an IQ between 95-105, so average that he would be easily swayed by muh feels arguments and other fallacies.

I agree voting rights should probably be restricted, but that's beside the point. Do you honestly think you're smarter than every conservative, that you're just on a higher intellectual level? You need to get some perspective my man

Yeah all the Alinskyite's say that.

>Left and right don't exist.
yes they do, moron
all left or right implies is a broad, generalized idea of your political opinions and how our governments should run
>doesn't fall for the left vs right narrative and hates jewish nepotism.
lmao so you dont fall for one narrative but you still just as easily fall for another

>Here's the actual, unfettered truth from someone with high IQ and high NFC:
you come across as just another self absorbed loser who hides behind numbers you got off a doctor or online quiz
your grasp of the truth is no less subjective than mine or anyone elses
do you actually do anything useful? how are YOU making the world better?
if the answer is "i wont tell you/its irrelevant" or "i make a lot of money" you're just as worthless as the next "low IQ" person

tl;dr
next time: use green txt & bottom line your point(s); maybe then I'll respond

Until then, kys newfag and
>>>/reddit/
they'll appreciate your blog posting better over there.

how can you say that god isn't real? i don't believe in him but i can't say for certain he doesn't exist.

agnostistic atheism is uniornicially the most logical choice.

Also welfare...lolno

otherwise i 10000% agree with you and i wish Sup Forums realize what you are saying

would this make you a civic nationalist?

Im not smarter than every conservative, my post was in retaliation to all the newfags who fell for the conservatism meme thinking Sup Forums is just another place to get their retarded ideas. It's a retaliation to conservashits who voted and still like george bush latching onto the trump victory thinking it will be just like bush again and that's a good thing. Trump won because he appeals to people who ARENT conservashits, but theyre claiming victory like everyone is on board with their retardation.

except those opinions aren't actually opinions, they're falsifiable facts. They're supposed to represent systems that would be optimal given their own specific, idealized conditions. For example, personal liberties are better in a society that has higher IQ, but wouldn't work in brown people countries.

Jewish nepotism is another falsifiable fact, not a narrative.

Your grasp of the truth is clearly wanting, moron. Go back to breitbart.

You don't prove things aren't real, you prove that they are real. Or else you got a lot of proving to do.

As for welfare, your parents gave you welfare when you were a baby because it's the best way to pass on their genes. Creatures that didn't try to pass on their genes went extinct. This is game theory 101, and the same ideas can be applied on a societal level. As long as people pay back into the system, is it not worth it to help them out? You just think of welfare as a 4 letter word because it's traditionally given to brown people.

>able to answer unanswerable questions because muh high iq

I may not be a genius but atleast I know what I know and what I don't know.

Acting like you are superior is pointless even if it is true.

>Civic nationalist
>labels

>God isn't proven to be real
Take 100 micrograms of LSD, there's your proof.

and which questions are unanswerable according to your feeble brain? (aside from what I know you think is if god exists or not)

And I'm not bragging btw, I'm signalling to other high IQ people to come join the thread. I've seen this bragging accusation enough to know that only the mediocre do it.

t. radical centrist


go fuck youself you pussy

sagedhidden

>those opinions aren't actually opinions, they're falsifiable facts
what the fuck am i reading
you cannot claim to be high IQ and write drivel like this, an opinion and a fact are two entirely separate things
left or right have no implication of fact, they are, yet again, broad generalizations for describing political ideas and ideologies, nothing more

>personal liberties are better in a society that has higher IQ, but wouldn't work in brown people countries.
this seems like an opinion, not a fact user

>Jewish nepotism is another falsifiable fact, not a narrative.
by definition it's a narrative, i have no idea what you're even trying to imply with "falsifiable fact"


please feel free to address my question of what you're doing with your IQ to make the world a better place, because it seemed like you tried to silently dodge that last time
almost like you're not actually doing anything important at all

You sound very uneducated.

Everything we know if you work your way back is eventually built upon assumptions because that's how the nature of knowledge works.

The degree to which knowledge is practica and or useful is the only important thing, which often correlates with falsifiability but is not a requirement.

>Left and right don't exist.
Yes but to play within the system its useful to pick a side. Right happens to be far less insane than the left.

>hates jewish nepotism
sure

>In reality left and right is a hodge podge of random ideas that happen to appeal to the lowest common denominator enough to elect politicians. Both sides have ideas that are true and ideas that fall apart under scientific scrutiny.
Part of the problem is the media and lightning fast communication. It sharpens political ideas until you get the harshest most radical talking points bubbling up to the top. This only polarizes the debate to the point where either side can no longer recognize each other.

>anthropogenic climate change is real
yes

>There's no god
yes

>There are differences between the races that include intelligence and tendency to commit crimes.
yes

>Welfare is good, but only if you discriminate harshly about who you help
On the part of the 'bad' type of welfare we are seeing today, its effectively a bribe. A bribe for them to fuck off and leave us alone because we are so wealthy we can afford to do so. They are actually worse off in receiving a welfare check, because they have no agency. There are programs in place where these productive people you are talking about are seen through into prosperity. Lumping them all together is a bad idea IMO.

>IQ is the most important factor in determining the success of any individual
Its a good predictor, as far as important - that is up for question. Perhaps a primary character trait among others.

Except my ideas include those that would be considered radical left and radical right. Not that I believe the moronic spectrum in the first place.

>falsifiable fact
>what the fuck am i reading
appeal to ridicule. I'm telling you the "broad generalizations" are false, like so many other things in regards to politics.

And yes, I'm not addressing your ad hominem fallacy. The fact that you take this as evidence of anything is just further proof that you aren't worth my time.

>someone with high IQ
>The effect will eventually snowball

>Race aside, humanity would be better off as a whole if it were full of "intelligent cooperators", regardless of what race those humans were. That means people who are smart and are willing to help one another.
We already have something like this, its called high skill or productive low skill immigration as well as international cooperation. Problem is, you still have culture barriers and such to deal with. So what you are left with, domestic talent. Which is significantly harder to produce instead of just importing people.

>Increasing the average IQ should be the utmost priority for all societies
Absolutely. Increasing the academic achievement of the lowest performer demographics in our society can have one of the largest GDP increases readily available right now. And this is also a predictor of many other beneficial things over time. Also this effect compounds over time.
And that is just for school achievement, which isnt indicative of IQ. If IQ were to increase just 10 points, the entire country would be different.

>i just learned about axioms and want to sound smart
>i just read my epistemology textbook and want to sound smart
>i'm a philosophy student, and you can't know nuffin. you cant even know that you can't know nuffin, am I being profound yet??
I would expect a Sup Forumsack to know that "education" is just code for indoctrination. I have a degree in statistics, by the way, and I know more shit than you do. Especially about the nature of knowledge.

>what is positive feedback loop
>what is using common vernacular to appeal to morons

it's not even ad hominem
if i said "your opinions are wrong because you're a faggot" that would be ad hominem

if i ask you what you're using your high IQ for, that's because i'm trying to make it clear that your bigger number means nothing unless you use it for something of value, otherwise you're just as much of a sucker as every other person of lower IQ

it's just getting easier and easier to run circles around you user

Also the fact that you seem to believe there isn't a god probably implies that you think there is no afterlife or anything outside of the physical or empirically observed phenomenon.

Which makes your obvious Eliteism even more retarded because without the concept of a soul your ability to do hard or complicated work is inherit. It's not something you put effort towards that differentiates you from other people of similar intelligence. It's something you are born with and have no control over so being proud of it is illogical.

Functionalism implies lack of free will which makes any intellectual accomplishments just something that you happen to be born with not something you achieved

Historys written by the survivors, most of the things you learn about past leaders are over-dramatized lies.

Humanity understands the importance of masculinity in choosing compotent leaders but its all hot air when put into practice. Civilizations built off comfortable lies, manipulative tendencies, and demoralization.

The warrior gene is already non-existent and replaced with egoism, the last men on earth were those that served in WW2 (the cold war was comprised of bitches)

Half the male generation born during and after the early 90's have the brain of a woman.

Estrogen increases the effects of oxytocin, a neuropeptide thats shown to be higher in individuals that display schadenfreude personalities.

Its a sign of weakness, femininity.
mindblog.dericbownds.net/2009/09/oxytocin-increases-envy-and.html

Out of curiosity, what programs are you referring to specifically? I basically agree with your assessment about being a bribe, but we only need to bribe them because people misunderstand the true purpose of welfare in the first place.

Congratulations you can add numbers together and memorize formulas. You must be a genius!

You didn't even refute anything I said because either
1. You don't know enough about it to respond
2. Know I'm right and don't have a response but now you are in a situation where you have made retarded unbackable claims so you just try to insult me

>muh positive feedback

>I'm signalling to other high IQ people to come join the thread
I'm not impressed.

I'm already aware of this conclusion, but you sound like you're trying to take me down a notch. Not that I care, nothing in my post ever asserted I was superior to you in particular, but perhaps it's indicative of low self-esteem?

>thing that is widely held as true is actually not true because I said so

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There's nothing I care to refute, it's a red herring as it has no relevance to the OP. I already know you're right and I agree with you. However, I'm mocking you for bringing an irrelevant topic to the table because it appears like you're trying to sound smart. Why would you want to sound smart? I don't know. Maybe low self-esteem.

Are you trying to say a spectrum of ideas is "true"? What does that even mean? Is there hard evidence of it?

OP is a retard. Prove me wrong.
>Protip: You can't.

>can't stop taking about iq
>says he doesn't like lower iq people on muh super shecret board
>insults people insinuating they are dumber than you are
>continues to try and insult and continues to not have any actual responses to what I've said

Face it bud you lost this round. Try to be a little less full of yourself next time and you might not come off looking like a complete retard.

Meh, you still have a few pills to swallow.

Ok Einstein, if you're so high IQ, how do we solve the Bogdanoff question?

Why are you posting evidence that supports my claim? High co2 in your graph correlates with interglacial periods.

you remind me of this one manager I had who gave me a book on spirituality and my third eye

I'm just here to look at tits.

The ironic thing is only the bogdanofs have a high enough IQ to solve the bogdanof question.

This is the the way Sup Forums has thought for a long time, and I've been here a long time. This is why Sup Forums was primarily libertarian up until around 2014. The recent right tilt is Sup Forumss attempt at playing within the system, and the attention garnered from these attempts which only feeds the progression to the right. Sup Forums used to be about red pills and esoteric or controversial conversations.

Problem is, all the nazi weebs and fundamentalists are coming out of the woodwork again because they think some fourth reich is going to occur or jesus is going to return now that Sup Forums is leaning right. Its a pain really. Its one thing to believe in something, its another to completely discredit a movement because you are going around seig heiling or yelling god hates fags.

But you are absolutely correct about intelligent cooperators being the backbone of a healthy society.

Grants for demonstrated ability, scholarships, military service, educational programs which seek out high performers who are in unfortunate circumstances, church organizations, companies taking on demonstrated high performers despite their lack of credentials, internships, etc. There is no one system that gives out things like this, which is my point. Lumping this merit based virtuous cycle in with the bribes that I was talking about is a bad idea because it makes less effective the lean and valuable 'welfare'. These types of things are the selective welfare you are talking about.
Somebody isnt going to become independently successful off of just food-stamps and assigned housing. They have to take that and run to greater heights. You cant give somebody success no matter how selective you are about it.

Idk. Guess that means I'm not smart. Although I never claimed to be superior to anyone in particular, just better than average by a good amount.

lmaoing at your life tbqhwyfam

130 iq fag here.
global warming is real you fucking morons; it's the extent to how serious of an issue it is that is subject to debate. just because you hate seeing leftists exaggerate it doesn't give you the right to completely write off the entire concept as false.

also here's some more 130 iq red pills
child pornography isn't objectively wrong
religion and science are both social constructs
math/logic/time/causality are all fake and require human intuition (science only deals with your sensory organs so it's not scientific fags).

in essence jacking off is just as valid as a system of understanding whatever this world is as your reddit (((true))) systems of truth measuring

? Why are you posting a graph about the human body lmao. I guess you're actually SO dumb that you didn't even know your first post was in my favor and are trying to shrug it off with some random nonsense.

trying to backpedal on how you have been acting the entire thread now that you know you've made yourself look stupid.

Keep going you might save your fragile ego yet

what kind of retarded ass argument is that?
"oh you think you're so smart huh? let me give you an unsolvable equation hahahahaha fucking idiot you're just as smart as me now hahahaha holy shit im smart"

>logic is fake
xD

who's the semen demon

...

yeah thank you. i have 99.99% confidence you are

pretty much

>widely held as true
>lots of people believe in this so it must be true
>otherwise they will think i'm different and think im stupid
>i dont want conflict so im going to believe them

Cool, another neckbeard who took an IQ test and learned that he's the smartest fuckin dude on Sup Forums.

Congrats on your accomplishment, OP. Your extensive knowledge of the world and your old Sup Forums statements are truly impressive.

Child porn happens to be antithetical to a healthy society, so pedo can fuck right off.

I would hope science is a social construct and not some random assortment of scribblings.

Time is an interpretation, logic is infallible, math is a theory, causality doesnt require observation.

LMAO

Yeah man the concept of infinity is totally made up. That's why we should ban it from being taught in schools, but for what finite amount of time should we ban it for?

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let me break it down for you:
you're claiming that positive feedback will cause runaway warming
I showed you a graph of the past 500ma showing negative feedback
it went completely over your head so I gave a simplified example of negative feedback which also went completely over your head
for someone with a 'degree in statistics' you sure are fucking dense.

Nah. You're just a bullshit artist.

Controlling who gets to vote... until people are properly educated, right?
Who decides what is the right info?
You're going to eventually tell us something like: my kids should share bathrooms with sexually confused men or pretenders and I'm going to tell you to fuck off. Then you send out the goons to steal me away in the night where I'll go in for some "re education" for being bigoted when I really am just concerned for their safety.
Or pick some other complicated issue. Followed by you being the great decider and a bunch of people going in for brain soup.

>healthy society
oh so society has only been healthy for like the past 130 years in the western world? the civilizations that all came before us were unhealthy?
are you going to argue that it's always been wrong to jack off to kids (you're a fucking moron) or are you going to say that the actual values are baseless and change depending on who the society arbitrarily chooses to hate on the given day (much better but you prove my point)

>logic is infallible
yeah except no system can fully encompass everything so it's never complete. some fag had to make all the rules. it's artificially designed and assumed to be the basics of everything (which is autistic because you don't actually have any reason to believe that it is the basis of anything)
>causality doesnt require observation
okay so empirical evidence only matters in certain instances when an autistic scientist finds in convenient to make a rule structure? my imagination of cumming inside things doesn't require an observation so it's just as valid as causality to me. it may not be as practical as a system but in no way can anyone argue that one is more 'true' than the other

>I have no argument and am completely incapable of intellectual discourse, the post.
Get back to plebbit, scum.

infinity is an abstraction you fucking idiot. do you realize that you can't actually observe an infinitude? you can't solve something infinitely. holy fuck you're an idiot who can't even distinguish concepts from your 'empirically justified' objects

Except thats not waht your graph shows at all. It clearly shows interglacial periods when there's high co2.

Retarded conservashit detected.
>Everyone who doesnt agree with everything I say must be on the other end of the """""spectrum""""".
Not that I'm going to reply to you again but the voting restrictions would be based on IQ tests primarily.

But for what finite amount of time should we ban teaching infinity?

There's no point in putting thought into an argument with someone who says "I have a high IQ so I'm gods gift to mankind and everything I say is important".

Fuck off.

we should ban teaching it until you can get over your social conditioning and you become able to personally masturbate to any child pornography of your choosing so you can realize how unconscious you actually are.

like have you even seen child pornography to know you don't like it or not? i know for a fact I don't like it but I really doubt you've actually tried to masturbate to it with an open mind.
judgmental redditor moron

Do geniuses try to convince people that they're geniuses?

Check and check. You're on the mark with both regards.

I would say, though, that voting should be restricted to actual tax payers. There are many high IQ folks that are not contributing to the system and are functionally illiterate when it comes to producing anything of value, thus receiving enough income to have to pay taxes.

I agree wth you op actually I'm reading your posts and worried that I come off like you do in argumentation, might want to tone it down a tad there lad

and OP is a faggot pseudo-intellectual pedantic redditor fucking idiot who is obsessed with social image. he has no substance whatsoever. all he is is a polished piece of dogshit trying to 'think' because it took him near decades to finally be able to develop a conscious monologue

Murder all teachers and let kid's parents teach them whatever they want.

It was an example of a complicated, modern issue. The real point I made still stands. Free to make mistakes means real freedom. Not whatever nu fascist shit your "high iq" gives us.

Name calling is a dead giveaway of a high iq.

Everyone below this post is trolled.

We all just stroked him real good too. Damn it.

The stupid are convinced that they themselves are geniuses and know everything. The geniuses in society assume that they themselves aren't that smart or know anything.

You're either a hardcore ethnic fascist looking towards making humanity better or you're not worth the title of man

Bro, I don't even care about the child porn or wahtever. But you can't seriously say that anyone who thinks logic isn't fake has an IQ below 115.

You know something is strange when people on Sup Forums are telling you to tone it down. Fortunately, I'm aware of how to appeal to normies, I come to Sup Forums precisely so that I don't have to do that.

if maths and science are both false, how do you explain the very real results obtained via the practice of these falsehoods? (e.g. you using a computer rn, I was going to say send a man to the moon but you most likely think that's a conspiracy anway)

I could care less what some dude jacks off to, his punishment is subjective. I'm only saying that the production of child porn using innocent children is objectively wrong. The child is incapable of making rational decisions at such a young age, so becoming a product due to the thoughts of a sick man is objectively wrong as well as morally wrong. As for artificial child porn i.e. loli anime, thats another topic.

The logic system is fine for the constraints and intellectual territories humanity has discovered. If it needs to change it will. But logic has to work for things to work, for example our computers.

What im saying is causality doesnt require a human to observe it in order for a cause effecting something to be true. Assigning rules is something else, and imagination is a replacement for stimulation which are both outside cause and effect.

idk if you could even call it trolled the way he handled it. he probably has taken like 5 online iq tests (all worthless) and made a summation of those scores to delude himself into being cum of the earth.
when i was a kid i used to think everyone would eventually become smart when they got older, but holy fuck was i wrong. i honestly could produce everything that OP is trying to do when I was in like 4th grade

Intelligence does not =/ higher empathy or higher social cooperation, retard.

>calls out OP for being a smartfag
>is a smartfag

niggers are shit and dat bitch is a coal burner

youtube.com/watch?v=iXG9cM5QxgU

Your answers can be found in The Urantia Book.

Nor did I say it does. Should I say... retard?

>Muh IQ
Stopped reading
I'd accept 10 redditfugees before I considered your argument I didn't read

I'm with Pablo on this one. If you've ever felt connected to everything, you would know what the fuck God is.

>high IQ
>no sources
>everything in your pathetic post is completely opinion-oriented and you claim your opinion is factual
Yeah. High IQ for a burger, probably. What's your IQ, 110 or something?

I've been here a decade bro you aren't doing yourself any favors

What do you disagree with?

practicality =/= truth.
just because something has the illusion of nearing 'truth' doesn't mean that it actually is in fact true. math and science can predict and mimic certain aspects of repeatable observable situations, but i'm not able to make the leap of faith that a decently accurate prediction constitutes a 'real' result.

okay i disagree with a ton of your statement about innocent children.
>age is a horrible indicator for sexual maturity
(12 year old with emotional intel of a 23 year old vs a 23 year old with emotional intel of a 12 year old)
>not all sexual encounters with an adult and a child are a form of abuse/rape.
>consensual sex had to have occurred in at least a thousand of the millions of instances of pedophilia, which makes the generalization of rape as retarded
i'm saying that logic and math/ethics/whatever are practical and have their places in society, but it's absolutely dog shit retarded to try to say that the best solution we have to understanding is the objectively knowable true solution.

and you don't actually think that child porn is objectively wrong. you just have a personal disgust of it and think that everyone else will share that disgust with you. that isn't a rule to me