People that say the "The Alt-Right is a made up term, it doesn't exist" have no idea what they are talking about. Dumbass plebbitors need to lurk or look things up before they parrot bullshit they read off of r/the_zionald.
>Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) Saul Alinsky's rules for Radicals. >Alinsky is Clinton's idol >Clinton brings term "alt-right" into public knowledge.
>anything but a shill
Michael Gray
>le alt right face
Xavier Reyes
I don't give a fuck. Just post more cum guzzlers.
Michael Lopez
All terms are "made up" senpai.
Jaxson King
I'm just here to look at this half-naked whore.
Angel Hughes
She didn't make up the name. The left has been constantly character attacking the right. It isn't a real movement it is just an internet movement of sharing ideas so far so any publicity only helps it grow.
Do you care if Europeans are displaced from their native countries?
Bentley Hughes
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Jordan Martin
If you don't understand what HRC and the MSM were trying to do by calling out the alt-right in that speech, then yeah you're dumb enough to have been in the "alt-right" before that speech.
It's a dead on arrival movement parroting a shitty ideology that'll never ever gain traction amongst normies and will only ever serve as a punching bag for the liberal media. It would be better for your cause if it WAS entirely made up and didn't exist.
So guess what.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN ALT-RIGHT IT'S MADE UP BY THE MSM TO LABEL ANYONE WHO OPPOSES THE LIBERAL AGENDA AND ATTACK THEM IF YOURE ANONYMOUS THEY CAN'T LABEL YOU AND THEREFOR CAN'T ATTACK YOU PROTECT YOUR ANONYMITY IF ANYONE SAYS YOU'RE ALT-RIGHT TELL THEM THE MEDIA MADE UP THE TERM AND IT DOESN'T EXIST
Jayden Morales
You intentionally misread my post. This.
Camden Morgan
They're retarded. Every ideogy is "made up" what kind of argument is that?
Eli Gomez
>Milo >Cernovich >alt-right
Nice try, /shitredditsays/
Sebastian Fisher
If you try to spread your ideas you lose!
You call me the shills when you say we are to roll over and accept defeat just because the movement has been named. The left has gone mad with their new form of McCarthyism and we see today how right he was about the creep of Marxism.
The other thing the left loves to say is that people like us should not be given a platform, that people being at all exposed to our ideas is unacceptable. The Alt-Right has grown immensely this year. You cucks can enjoy thinking your smart by accepting defeat at the outset.
Bentley Lopez
Yet again intentionally misunderstanding. It doesn't matter if they call you it, what matters is that you never call yourself it. The best thing to do is to say you're a "_____ (your nationality) that only wants the best for his country without the political jargon." The average person won't know you mean you're natsoc then but will be more receptive to your arguments on the offset.
Samuel Nguyen
See, you're like a 19th century Colonel being confronted with guerrilla tactics for the first time in your life.
Yeah, we're not wearing uniforms, we're not forming up in ranks on the field of battle and waiting for dawn to begin our advance. We're anonymous, we're hiding in the jungle, we're launching strikes on Sundays. You can't win playing on their terms, by which I mean having an ideology, having a label, having a leader. Ideologies are corrupted, labels become an albatross around your neck when some idiot goes out and commits an atrocity in your name, and leaders are bribed and lead you astray. You have to be willing to let all that go and just serve TRUTH.
If you can't drop your mask at the drop of a hat, step back, and become someone else and continue the fight, you don't understand anonymity, you don't understand Sup Forums, and you won't win.
Hudson Taylor
You sound like a needy activist desperate to be part of something. Might as well be a liberal. The mental weakness of everyone desperate for some label will be their defeat.
Wyatt Cruz
It doesn't exist. Please show me where it existed before Hillary Clinton brought it to national attention?
Ayden Young
Yes well no one is really claiming themselves to be Alt-Right. It is almost entirely anonymous even outside the chans. No one is saying that you spread they ideas to other people by saying "I'm an altirightist GTKRWN."
The Alt-Right is not ideologically united and doesn't have a leader. You post is way too LARPy.
>might as well be a liberal
Parker Butler
This post is the most accurate I've seen on the subject
Blake Reyes
Read the fucking wordpress link in the OP idiot.
Owen Taylor
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Elijah Johnson
Ah! I forgot our 'chons were a secret club~
Brayden Baker
Alt-right is a term for new age neocons that want to identify with a group.
Jeremiah White
Praise kek
Julian Howard
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Completely wrong. The Alt-right are the people that hate neo-cohens. Lots of profiteers jumped on the Alt-Right bandwagon because they thought it was just the name of the trump movement and now they are showing their true colours as being slightly better neo-cons.
Nathan Gonzalez
>The Alt-Right is not ideologically united and doesn't have a leader.
IT DIDN'T BEFORE. That's what you meant. Because since that speech and you didn't immediately reject the label, you've had how many "leaders" step forward and get attacked non-stop by the media? Spencer, Milo, Cernovich, do you get it? Just by having a label the media will INVENT a leader and INVENT an ideology, then apply that label to anyone they don't like. And if you don't do something atrocious on your own they'll just false flag you and nobody will know the difference.
The only defense is an immediate rejection of the label they've proposed and to discredit it at every turn. Yeah, that means denying all the shit you did over the last few years on your blogs. Let it go. It's an anchor and it's pulling you down.
Imagine an invisible man and he follows around the MSM and makes them look like fools all the time. How galling that must be, because they can't stop him and they can't even strike back at him because he's invisible. What do they do? They hang a noose in a tree and give it a shiny fancy label and tons of attention. Hoping that the anonymous man will be stupid enough to put his head through the noose for them. That's what they're doing.
Adrian Hill
You don't know what you are talking about honestly. Spencer has been writing stuff for a long time and does not claim to be THE leader. Milo and Cernovich where never actually alt-right they are jew profiteers.
How much do you think you accomplish just by posting on Sup Forums? What is your end goal?
The current goal of the Alt-Right is mainly just shifting the overton window away from egalitarianism and all the garbage we are dealing with.
Austin Lopez
The term Alternative Right was created by Paul Gottfried a Jewish conservative.
Later a friend of Gottfried, Richard Spencer, started shortening it as "alt right" and was claimed to be the creator of this undefined political movement.
It's all a bunch of hot air tbqh.
Isaac Smith
Trump supporters don't even have a label or belong to a group beyond being Trump supporters. Alt-right is a reddit meme that is absolutely a bunch of neocon faggots.
Hudson Campbell
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Elijah Rodriguez
>Spencer has been writing stuff for a long time and does not claim to be THE leader. Milo and Cernovich where never actually alt-right they are jew profiteers.
Spencer is constantly seeking donations from his followers. Cernovich shills his books and Milo is independently wealthy.
>The current goal of the Alt-Right
You can't even explain what the Alt Right is, ask 10 different people get 10 different answers. If it's White Nationalism why don't you just refer to it as "white nationalism", if it's Libertarianism why not just refer to it as "libertarianism".
Grayson Hall
You're confused. You seem to think that the reality of all the little intricacies of your blog circle matters in the realm of public opinions. It doesn't. The narrative is what matters. And the narrative is that Spencer, Milo, and a few others ARE the alt-right, and everyone else is just following them. If you'd been paying attention to the world everyone else lives in you might have noticed that.
>muh overton window Yeah they've already co-opted that. Have you noticed that since November 8 the media has been pushing extremely hard to discredit the Trump presidency and rile everyone up for active resistance against this "racist, homophobic, blah blah blah" president? They're pushing the overton window back HARD. That's what they DO. It's narrative control and Alinsky and others invented it and leftists perfected it.
The only way to fight back is to enter new territory. To be anonymous and chaotic and serve only truth without labels or leaders or even heroes. Let the truth spread memetically.
William Baker
You're arguments both have merit.
and its a dichotomy i struggle with intellectually, having no basis for attack by being anonymous is vastly superior as a concept, it gives the ability to be fluid and immune from unwarranted criticism and media attacks,
on the other hand, having no identity is not a positive in the long run, particularly if that identity is tied into politics or hopeful change.
You can't get people to accept an ideology if they don't know what it is. And unfortunately most people are not philosophers who can decide for themselves what is best. They often act like sheep that need to be lead to certain conclusions. That makes the anonymity a curse because its seldom useful for mainstream appeal. Which is why MSM vociferously attacks any and all grassroots movements, whether by ignoring their existence or creating straw men.
Nathaniel Phillips
>You can't get people to accept an ideology Found your problem buddy. Ideologies are cancerous. You really think there's one way to solve EVERY problem? It's ludicrous.
Just promote the truth. That's all you have to do. It helps that the truth is naturally meme-able and easy to make funny, especially when the powers that be spread lies everywhere.
You don't need a movement or a label to spread the truth.
>They often act like sheep that need to be lead to certain conclusions. That makes the anonymity a curse because its seldom useful for mainstream appeal.
You must not have noticed that memes are spreading like wildfire and people are starting to wake up.
Juan Wood
Have you even read what I wrote in this thread?
You seem obsessive with your anonymous legion LARPing that I am not at all opposing.
You are honestly fucking brain-dead if you think the Alt-Right are neo-cons.
Do you want to live in that scenario?
Have you read anything from Alt-Right writers or listened to any of the speakers?
What are your political views?
Spencer laid out goals for this year including a college tour to help spread the ideas. He is not comparable to a Jew trying to sell a retarded gorilla mindset book or a homosexual egotist that wants to make themselves as famous as possible. He actually cares about the ideas and values he talks about.
It is basically White Nationalism but that is a very tainted term. I have explained what it is but you ignore it. Most of the Alt-Right is disillusioned libertarians that see it as a dead end in the face of demographic change and the rest is nat-soc/fascists or traditionalists. The main uniting idea is that the demographic of the nation is more important for success than economic policy. What is your main argument? That traditionalist ideas should only be talked about anonymously? That we need a different label or no label? A collective needs a label and it's better to give it your self then let the left label you with their already more established loaded terms.
Gabriel Ward
pol is not alt right
Easton Wright
Almost all of Sup Forumss general ideas fall in line with alt-right ideas.
>Found your problem buddy. Ideologies are cancerous. You really think there's one way to solve EVERY problem? It's ludicrous. Really knocked down that straw-man.
Noah Bailey
>A collective needs a label Why? Serious question.
Do you understand framing? That the first time most of america heard of the alt-right it was during a speech by Hillary Clinton in which she framed them as awful neo-nazis who were bullying her campaign with mean-spirited memes? There's a reason there's been a non-stop assault on the idea of an "alt-right" movement and especially on its leaders.
Thomas Gutierrez
>Almost all of Sup Forumss general ideas fall in line with alt-right ideas. Sup Forums is more than one person. It's noting more than a public space for anyone to post in. It has no general ideas.
>Really knocked down that straw-man. Okay, let's take a look at your ideology. You think that the problem with America today is demographics and the overton window, by which you mean that which can be discussed as "normal" in the media. Do you think you can fix America's crumbling infrastructure by changing the demographics back to 80% white, 15% black, 5% other? What's the optimal demographic balance and how is that going to fix the infrastructure, America's foreign policy, the military industrial complex, or intellectual property rights?
There's a TRUTH about these problems that your ideology simply can't handle because it boils everything down to demographics. And that's just not how the world is. No ideology has the right answer to these problems, because ideologies start from a priori axioms and then generate a single "answer" to everything from those axioms. But that's not how the world works.
Brayden Martinez
MODS?
Elijah Evans
>thinking you know what the alt-right is because spencer and a bunch of nobodies are cashing in on it This shit started on reddit as an r/donald bandwagon circlejerk and that's all it truly is as a movement.
Julian Martin
The media is irrelevant. They attacked trump for a year and now he's going to be president. Stop cucking.
If things exist than they need a name. Hillary did such a pathetic butcher job on the Alt-Right speech it only could have helped the movement. She did the Russia tin-foiling and the only person she named was Alex Jones who is certainly not Alt-Right. No one that watches any of Alex Jones could think he is a neo-nazi.
>Do you understand framing?
Do you read anything I write? > A collective needs a label and it's better to give it your self then let the left label you with their already more established loaded terms.
>Almost all of Sup Forumss general ideas fall in line with alt-right ideas. Sup Forums is more than one person. It's noting more than a public space for anyone to post in. It has no general ideas.
I would gladly bet money that you are autistic at this point. If you polled Sup Forums on political issues trends would show up. Ideas are not uniform but they are similar. There are many repeating topics that reach many replies. For you to say that the board has no general ideas is really detached from reality and I would call you some kind of individualist ideologue.
You just spew nonsense.
Logan Fisher
And who makes the most successful propaganda? Hint: it isn't CNN.
Thomas Hill
There is no alt right, just a freedom of expression movement that the media and government can't control because of the Internet.
Get outside your bubble, dipshit.
Elijah Allen
No, there is an alt-right. You're talking about libertarians.
Julian Wright
I would love to white genocide her vagina desu.
Landon White
fuck off leaf day of the rake when?
Jayden Martin
Writing them off is extremely foolish. Just because one outlet sucks at what they do doesn't mean that they don't have power as a group.
>If things exist than they need a name. WHY? I see your self quote and you didn't answer the question. Why does the collective need a name?
>For you to say that the board has no general ideas is really detached from reality and I would call you some kind of individualist ideologue. Well on that topic I'm being a quibbler but the point is that if you say Sup Forums is a neo-nazi board and attack Sup Forums for that reason in the media, Sup Forums by its anonymous nature (and the fact that it in fact does not have general ideas or any kind of ideology or identity) can easily be libertarians until the heat dies down. Or they can be socialists. Or they can be #Cruzmissiles and #MentallyHill. There's endless opportunity for dissembling and sowing confusion. You can't do that once you marry yourself and your movement to an ideology, identity, and leaders.
You need to explain why you think a collective needs a name/label.
Anthony Martinez
alt right doesn't exist
Logan Martin
>Okay, let's take a look at your ideology. You think that the problem with America today is demographics and the overton window, by which you mean that which can be discussed as "normal" in the media. Do you think you can fix America's crumbling infrastructure by changing the demographics back to 80% white, 15% black, 5% other?
If the country was more white it would be more united and because their would be less people taking wealth redistribution there would be more money to spend on infrastructure.
>What's the optimal demographic balance
90% and up of a racial majority
>and how is that going to fix the infrastructure,
Can you be more specific in what you mean be infrastructure? This comes off as a vague Trump talking point.
America's foreign policy, the military industrial complex,
Not related to demographics really.
or intellectual property rights? >There's a TRUTH about these problems that your ideology simply can't handle because it boils everything down to demographics. And that's just not how the world is. No ideology has the right answer to these problems, because ideologies start from a priori axioms and then generate a single "answer" to everything from those axioms. But that's not how the world works.
Really you are incredibly obsessive about not having an ideology its very odd.
Alexander Reyes
Something can not exist without a name. A movement or collective of ideas needs a name to reach beyond one website.
Evan Lewis
European heritage and culture is not an ideology; it is the cause of our existence.
Bentley Taylor
>Writing them off is extremely foolish. Writing them off is part of the strategy we use to combat them. Taking them seriously is what gives them power in the first place.
Andrew Gonzalez
There's no such thing as an "alt-right". It's made up by the mainstream media in an attempt to label and attack anybody that opposes the liberal agenda.
If anyone accuses you of being in the "alt-right" you need to explain this to them. Tell them it's made up and doesn't exist and you're a normal everyday person who disagrees with the liberal agenda for whatever logical reason you like.
Bentley Ramirez
Then what do you call all the people who are against mass immigration, for white nationalism, and attribute the jews as one of the main factors behind white genocide? I mean I'm not saying Sup Forums should call itself alt right but come on, clearly we exist in numbers, so who the fuck are we?
Lucas Richardson
>Something can not exist without a name that is leaf thinking and I will tell you why >all support Sup Forums and other internet communities did for Trump not existing until Hillary speech
>elements from periodic table we know that exist, but we never found them yet? not existing
>your brain not existing, you post anonymously, therefore no name, therefore not existing
Landon Miller
The alt-right is a term created by the FBI to try to discredit conservative movements. If you call yourself alt-right, you are playing right into their game.
Brandon Lewis
This.
Hunter Nguyen
No, it was made up in 2010 by richard spencer. Stop forcing this meme.
Austin Flores
>If the country was more white it would be more united
BS. America was much more white 20 years ago but for some reason it got divided.
Caleb Bell
>Something can not exist without a name. See, that's such old-world thinking. But do you see the value in that? How can you attack something that doesn't exist! There's no defense against that. You have to call it into being by giving it a name and a label so that it can then be attacked, limited, and marginalized.
>A movement or collective of ideas needs a name to reach beyond one website. Incorrect. Memes spread from Sup Forums to every other site on the web and most people still don't know what Sup Forums actually is. For instance, those #DraftOurDaughters images were spread without a label and they were very effective at taking the left off message.
See, you're not really trying to spread your ideology because you think it's true. You're trying to spread your BRAND in an attempt to gain power for your ideology, which will then give YOU power as one of the inner circle. Marxists did the same thing.
Encourage people to cut the cord and stop watching all you like, but don't fool yourself into thinking the MSM has no power. It's still too early for that.
Dominic Fisher
>2010 by richard spencer Richard Spencer the Gay Dancer nobody cared who he was until he was planted by FBI to discredit Trump with his gay ideology he is like a little bit more straight Milo - still a faggot, but dumb cucks like him
Kevin Brooks
I will never stop forcing this meme because it's important that LABELS do not spread and wind up vilifying everyone who opposes the liberal agenda.
Angel Martin
>Oh no, CNN said mean things about me! Time to curl up and die.
What the fuck lmao
Aaron Allen
alt right IS a made up term and it is not Sup Forums. it is an attempt at co-opting our users. Sup Forums is Sup Forums and that is all there is.
you can tell alt-right is a psyop because of the name itself.
alternative right implies it is more extreme than the 'regular right'.
'alternative' implies that it is a small, niche group of the 'overall right'
when in reality, most Sup Forums beliefs are actually mainstream, believed by the silent majority, the baby boomers, the white middle class, and even many american minorities.
there is nothing 'alternative' about Sup Forums. we are mainstream. we are the silent majority.
if you want a label. use silent majority. it is more correct AND psychologically powerful.
by allowing the MSM and our opponents to choose our label we are allowing them to choose our beliefs. they can pull out any 'alt-right' loser like spencer and say he represents all of us. this is bad. we are better off with ZERO representative 'personas'. we have no need of them. we are stronger when the MSM has no 'talking head' to drag out and 'debate' in biased interviews.
we just won the god damn general election. we decimated the RNC and the DNC and pushed a populist outsider into the white house. if you want to claim anyone 'speaks for you', claim our president elect, donald trump, not some astroturfing youtuber loser.
we are Sup Forums we are the silent majority. there is nothing alternative about us.
Angel Young
Wanting to preserve it when the establishmen seeks to undermine it is an ideology.
You ignored these two questions before.
How much do you think you accomplish just by posting on Sup Forums? What is your end goal?
Yes an Image can spread as it is just an image, but a set of ideas needs a name to be able to spread better. You can't present all of the ideas all at the same time to spread them.
Are you content with Europeans becoming less than 50% of the demographic of the U.S.?
Jace Wood
>a fucking leaf
Aaron Collins
>If the country was more white it would be more united and because their would be less people taking wealth redistribution there would be more money to spend on infrastructure.
See, that's so convoluted and doesn't solve the problem of corruption. State and local governments are corrupt as hell and pocket the money instead of spending it like they're supposed to. And they're already white. So how do you solve that? You really can't solve it just by changing the demographics.
>Can you be more specific in what you mean be infrastructure? This comes off as a vague Trump talking point. How would a 91% white Louisiana have done better than the actual Louisiana at fixing the levees and preventing the flooding that occurred after Hurricane Katrina?
>Really you are incredibly obsessive about not having an ideology its very odd. Because as you admitted, you can't solve every problem with the one solution your ideology has for everything. And you're letting the entire opposition to the liberal agenda be painted with the alt-right brush and be marginalized when you cling to your label instead of saying "no, they're not the alt-right". Ideologies can never resist absorbing new groups into the fold because the bigger they are the more power they have.
Anonymity is the solution, because Anonymous is free to look at every problem, see the reality of it, and propose and argue about the best solution without trying to shoehorn their ideology's talking points into it. Just serve the truth, that's all you have to do.
Brandon Hughes
are you RP'ing right now?
Blake Martinez
>Are you content with Europeans becoming less than 50% of the demographic of the U.S.?
hell no, but that does not make ma member of the alternative right. thats a nationalist belief. no need for new shit-tier label.
Nathaniel Nguyen
sauce on the girl? any more pics??
Ryder Lewis
>inb4 another fucking leaf
I tend to agree with you, but one must understand that Sup Forums is incredibly reluctant to accept a label. But the movement doesn't begin and end with Sup Forums. Sup Forums is an incredible redpill/meme factory, but at the end of the day, real change comes from organization; but that needs to come from OUTSIDE Sup Forums.
Sup Forums is Sup Forums, no need trying to change it, it's doing its job amazingly whether it calls itself altright or not. If you want to get more involved, look up more groups that share these ideas and become apart of them, or hell just make your own.
Get inspired leaf bro, but let Sup Forums do its own thing.
(also Kellie Leitch 2019)
Parker Stewart
How about "normal"? Just be normal and be concerned about these issues. You actually have more power to convince other people when you're not some crazy guy on the street with a branded T-shirt and pamphlets.
Declining to be labeled is not the same as curling up and dying. That's like saying that guerrillas are curling up and dying when they decline to take the field in ranks and instead decide to hide in the jungle and snipe all day long.
>but a set of ideas needs a name to be able to spread better. Again, no it doesn't. Right wing ideas have had far more success spreading throughout Europe than have right wing political parties, and it's in large part because of how marginalized the labelled movements are by the media and power structures. The ideas, though, they flow freely.
>How much do you think you accomplish just by posting on Sup Forums? I'm just arguing with people, man. Maybe I change a few minds, maybe I spread some knowledge and sources. Maybe I make a shitty edit to a picture, post it, annoy someone more talented so they make a better version and it goes viral. But me behind the keyboard? My IRL identity? I accomplish absolutely nothing at all, and that's GOOD. It means that I'm safe from retaliation because I can't be targeted for what I do here. >What is your end goal? To crash this plane with no survi- sorry, couldn't help myself. My Sup Forums posting has no end goal, I'm here to enjoy myself arguing with other people.
Robert Gutierrez
It may have existed, but it was in no way popular. Go check the archives. Mentions of the alt right weren't prevalent at all until the media throw trump supporters (and therefore most of Sup Forums) under the term. It may have been brought up here occasionally, but it was literally never anything that a majority of the board embraced at any time ever.
John Wright
OP is a shill.
Seems like the shills are really trying to tie Sup Forums to alt-right.
Protip: Shills love using "qt waifu" pic as OP.
The "alt right" exists only in the fantasies of idiots, shills and attention whores.
SAGE
Adam Peterson
All of the main stream conservatives are just as much bound to the dogma of diversity as the left is. Nationalism in the U.S. and Israel as the most important countries it does not mean maintaining the demographics of the country. Check out the wordpress link in the OP it links to other sites that you might like.
90% white Louisiana would have more tax money to spend on infrastructure because they would have less they need to spend on wealth redistribution. Compare the quality of life of European countries to African countries. A nation of more functional people creates a more functional society.
So you admit that you are just a nihilistic individualist with no actual goals. Thanks for wasting my time thinking I was arguing with someone that actually cared about the future.
Name the general ideas that unite Sup Forums that are different from Alt-Right ideas. I'm not saying that Sup Forums has to declare itself official alt-right board or anything like that but we shouldn't recoil at the term like we are a jew being called a jew. The core alt-right puts out interesting content in youtube, articles, essays and podcasts.
I just feel like all the people that try to say the alt-right is some psyop or shill-job are redditors that want to turn Sup Forums into the_zionald 2.0
Sebastian Cook
Are we already in this phase of making fun of the alt-right?
Isaac Watson
Partly true but I would add that this is where I found TDS and FTN. That was before her speech. In fact I remember the day of the speech and all the celebrating that happened on Sup Forums, though now I see it was at least partially some misguided Alt-Litests. I really didn't have too much of a problem with the Litests except for Milo who would hijack the label and go on MSM to push civic nationalism. It's when Cernovich turned on Spencer that I realized they need to go. Call yourself whatever, pretend it doesn't exist for all I care but do not call yourself an altist you fucking Monkey Mindset Jew.
Anthony Jenkins
You can tell how alt right is influenced by the Jews by watching their non stop butthurt over Muslims. It seems like they don't mind Asians or Mexicans or even Native Canadians. But muh mooslems are taking over muh european identity is their main concern.
Jason Hill
Not even remotely true. Try again.
Nicholas Cook
>90% white Louisiana would have more tax money to spend on infrastructure because they would have less they need to spend on wealth redistribution. Compare the quality of life of European countries to African countries. A nation of more functional people creates a more functional society.
Okay, but the problem wasn't lack of funding. There was plenty of funding for the levees to be repaired and expanded, and they just chose to ignore it. And no Louisiana didn't have some kind of crazy social welfare program that they spent the money on.
See, the ideology acts as a shortcut for your thinking. You don't have to think about all the variables involved in the problem because your ideology already has the answer. That's just ONE reason ideology is dangerous.
>So you admit that you are just a nihilistic individualist with no actual goals. I don't attempt to accomplish my goals on an anonymous anime discussion imageboard. That's very different from not having goals. This is leisure for me. Recreation.
>Name the general ideas that unite Sup Forums that are different from Alt-Right ideas. Anonymity for starters. Sup Forums is more like a public park than an organized movement. Everyone's free to come and yell at each other whatever they like. So there aren't any general ideas and that's why you'll find pretty much every political leaning and politically incorrect idea getting shared here non-stop.
>I just feel like all the people that try to say the alt-right is some psyop or shill-job are redditors that want to turn Sup Forums into the_zionald 2.0 I already explained to you above why the users here don't want to be dragged down by your label. It doesn't fit the strategy here. Playing on (((their))) turf is accepting a loss from the start.
Dylan Powell
>All of the main stream conservatives are just as much bound to the dogma of diversity as the left is. Nationalism in the U.S. and Israel as the most important countries it does not mean maintaining the demographics of the country. Check out the wordpress link in the OP it links to other sites that you might like.
except trump.
all your long winded posts dont make me accept the label alt-right. its still a forced outside ideology. we don't need it.
Lincoln Ross
>I'm w-w-worried for Sup Forums 4chan is a joke website where people pretend to be anonymous in a battle of the memes.
The whole point of the fucking website, you shill idiot, is to do away with the labels in favor of memes.
Guys, remember that much of the racist shitposting is done by shills.
Benjamin Howard
Canada is a made up country.
Adam Reyes
>Wanting to preserve it when the establishmen seeks to undermine it is an ideology. No it isn't, faggot, it's self-defense.
Ethan Garcia
Ok then why they never talk about the dumb whites who are the 50% of all whites?
Ryan Garcia
Can I hate Jews and like Trump at the same time? Why do I have to stop liking all of the good stuff about Trump just because he is pro isreal? In America, we either get to vote for the party that pushes the Jews Zionist agenda (Republicans) or the party that pushes the degenerate """""""refugee""""""" loving, amnesty supporting, Marxist, pro open borders, anti gun, anti free speech Jewish Globalist agenda. Why is it so wrong to still like Trump? That is honestly my main issue with the Alt right. It's either 100% their way, or not at all. Sometimes you have to compromise on certain issues.
Hudson Bennett
Because they are pro white which I'm assuming you aren't. Also, gtfo nigger.
Luis Davis
I'm not alt right this board is a board of peace >leaf
Cameron Johnson
Alinskis rules were used on clinton herself as well, considering how she was isolated and demonised.
Dylan Kelly
Ya, it didn't spread via google searches. It was a pooling of different strands into one.
Hillary then lumped in all these other random people (Alex Jones etc) and now they are pissed.
Gavin Young
>though now I see it was at least partially some misguided Alt-Litests >It's when Cernovich turned on Spencer that I realized they need to go
That's cute. Meanwhile from the second the speech ended I knew how they were going to play this, with infiltration and subversion and marginalization, and knew they would try to drag down Sup Forums as well.
Just wait until Spencer sells out, either because they offered him a shitton of money or threatened his family. He'll help subvert the movement.
Dominic Roberts
Some of them are, but even then they won't succeed. Sup Forums can't become blue pilled, Sup Forums IS the red pill. And this is partially due to how Sup Forums as a site works. No ideas can be silenced here, but only the strongest ever survive. Those ideas are anti-cultural marxist and they will continue to persist here no matter what.
That being said, I believe most people against the title altright here are being genuine.
William Clark
>ID: j00
The Alt-right is obsessive with being against jews.
It's hilarious how much you talk against ideology when you have the radical anonymous individualist ideology that cause you to claim Sup Forums has no general ideas it agrees on.
I don't know shit about levies or luisianna but you ignored my point that European countires have the best quality of life and african countries have the lowest. Do you really think this is in no way because of racial differences?
>Sup Forums isn't seriously racist
Thanks for proving my point plebbitor
I really think they are just peddit migrants that are still afraid of being called racist
Nathaniel Campbell
Fucking newfags don't know that Sup Forums has been alt right for years. We coined the term back before the Ron Paul era and it became popular during his original run for presidency
Jason Cooper
>Clinton brings term "alt-right" into public knowledge.
LOL why doing what Hillary wants? she did this on purpose so Trump would counter signal. He didn't. But you are.