Drugs

I need facts and evidence as to how and why Drugs are bad or good.

I mean normieshit like Coke,Weed,Hashish,etc.

I have started to notice a fuckhuge drugs epidemic in my city and i need arguments to fight back other than my autistic hate for drugs.

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I'm just here to check out the army qt.

Trump is a real-state man, ¿how do they operate?, they have a house they want to sell, let say it is worth 1mil by itself. The real-state man will say to the buyer, "it goes for 4mil" knowing that he won't get that much, that he is exaggerating, but also that the buyer will negotiate. the buyer will say "I will give you 500k" knowing the house is worth more.

The real-state man won't get 4mil, the buyer won't pay 500k, but if the real-state man is the better negotiator he will get 2mil, if the buyer is the better negotiator he will pay 1.2mil.

¿See where i'm going?

Trump does not expect us to o pay for a yuge wall with machine guns and detectors; He wants our government to negotiate with him for solution to the border problems.

Our border problems are derived from the entrance of enormous amounts of money and weapons that end up in the hand of the Cartels. The Cartels are the biggest treat to Mexico right now, making the border impossible to penetrate without supervision would make it impossible for the Cartels to get their profits and weapons, thus weakening them substantially.

We should cooperate with Trump's plan of making the border impregnable.

Making the border impregnable would solve most border problems for both countries, it just has to be done in a more cost effective way than to build a 30 meters wall with high tech detectors and machine gun emplacements all along the borderline.

I would keep the high tech detectors however, the cartels often dig tunnels

Just lost a friend today. They found him in a lake near his house. He was a big time drug user. Need anymore proof, paco?

Have a religious qt

ty for the bump i guess

Anecdotal evidence isnt worth shit.
I cant go around saying that some junkies overdosed to shit.
I need Sup Forums's facts on the subject

>Hurr durr research it yourself fucking spic
I j-just wanted to talk about Drug degeneracy with Sup Forums, i have no friends.

wrong thread but good points

Well you better start shouting at everyone who drinks or smokes too, Mexico.

The only thing you have to complain about are drug cartels.
Are there alcohol cartels? No
Are there cigarette cartels? No
(Well I suppose the answers to that depend on what you consider a 'cartel' to be)

Cigarettes were long sold as being medicinal and helpful despite their manufacturers knowing that they had a direct causal relationship with throat and lung cancer.

Alcohol is a fairly addictive drug and the withdrawal symptoms from alcohol dependency can kill. Not to mention that drinking alcohol habitually causes a huge amount of harm.

You've been living in the middle of a 'drugs epidemic' all your life, the only difference is that they were legal.

Theresa May (now the PM in the UK) banned 'anything that caused a psychoactive effect', this includes smelling flowers and riding rollercoasters among other harmless things.
Before that there was a huge legal high industry, after the ban many more people have died than before due to being sold the wrong thing as a currently banned drug; before the process was fairly transparent. You went online, ordered your research chemicals and went on with life. Now people are selling RCs which can be extremely harmful without warning and under different names to make more money.

TL;DR making everything legal but regulated will help with 'drug epidemics'and stop a large amount of people dying.

Cannabis makes you passive and can develop purely mental addiction to it. Long term health effects include lung cancer as is it is most commonly smoked. Short term risk are on par with booze when it comes increased risk of depression and psychosis, with less shit happening in liver and other internal organs. So it is overall slightly less fucked up product than alcohol.

>I need facts and evidence as to how and why Drugs are bad or good.
Depends on your goals in life.

Do you want to conquer France? How about you and your friends try out some meth?

Do you want to conquer Russia? Mix meth and cocaine, for you and your friends.

Coming back having lost a leg and your phantom limb is hurt? Sounds like heroin is your drug.

Hash is a drug that was used to motivate Muslim Assassins into suicide missions, stay away from that shit.

I dont have any kind of taste for alcohol, dont drink at all.
I dont smoke either.

I am in a moral stand-point between going full Duterte and just legalizing drugs so that not users may enjoy the taxing of Users.

But it still pains me to see people using drugs or any other kind of vice.

i have seen loads of people prefering bongs,even homemade ones from apples, over blunts claiming that it is "safer".

I just want a qt to hold me dearly and caress my hair as i hold my head on her lap

Figure it out yourself.

>I just want a qt to hold me dearly and caress my hair as i hold my head on her lap
Do you really want a qt girlfriend or do you want to do something that really matters?

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>Have a religious qt
kek

It is just that drugs have started popping out everywhere and it worries me greatly that such degeneration is going on in front of me.
>College degenerates using hashish
>Coworkers bragging about using coke.
>Teen parties everywhere reek of weed.

It has become so goddamn mainstream to be a drug user and i feel even more out of place in this shithole.
I just wanted to talk about it here because such conversation could literally get me lynched in real life.

Same

>College degenerates using hasish
they should be using adderall
>Coworkers bragging about using coke.
they should be using adderall again
>Teen parties everywhere reek of weed.
they should be using molly and viagra

>and i feel even more out of place in this shithole.
kys faggot

>I just wanted to talk about it here because such conversation could literally get me lynched in real life.
lel

If anyone tells that coke is the purest of them all...
youtube.com/watch?v=JwA3tjeiB5o

Should not ever be an argument about not knowing what you are getting...

I bet you drink tequila you fucking wolf-boon spigger. kys. logic is too harsh for your spic brain. just end it for all of us.

Did someone say drugs?

Oh shit!!
DUCK FOR COVER!!

Literally addicted to weed. I just got back from using a rubbing alcohol pad to wipe down the inside of my pipe which I broke to get all that dank resin and then proceeded to smoke the alcohol pad in order to get high lmao

>tfw not even high as f just high

Well, in terms of honest facts you can't really trust the available sources. When you look at substace abuse through history we could partially attriubte the success of notable/promonenet figures in history to thier love affair with drugs. However, in reality drugs are just a gateway to something new and useful (see stoned ape theory). Ultimately, facts are going to be based around the related motives. Big pharma is going to legitimize thier interests or ideology. Your consciousness is your own if you want ot experiment with it do it.

fucking leaf redemption
stoned ape is fucking retarded tho

the wealthy allow drugs in the poorest areas to keep the masses in a haze of inaction. Less money for self-improvement and less motivation to improve. More prison-industrial fodder. It is not coincidence.

Stoned ape is important. If you read about the primacy of consciousness """"""""""maurice merleau ponty""""""""""", you can see how important social events are tied to the common environmental factors of everyday life. Therefore, stoned ape theory offers us a glimpse into something new, something not tied to our everyday experiences. We can reasonably infer that this inventiveness can be useful.

>All things are poison and nothing is without poison; only the dose makes a thing not a poison.

your welcome dude. drugs are not bad in and of themselves. it's the behaviour of individuals which make repeated/prolonged use result in negative outcomes.

snort heroin once, not a big deal
snort heroin everyday for three years - a bad move

ok but apes aren't humans, we didn't evolve from them

dolphins pass the mirror test
did dolphins eat mushreems?

ur a cool bro nignig

Who cares if people kill them selves on drugs, its natural selection at work most of the time, if someone is stupid enough to ruin their lives with them, it's not anyone's problem but theirs.
No sympathy here.

OP just because you have never done drugs or needed them doesn't mean others haven't. Virtually all drugs are pain killers, and increase different chemicals in the brain. Genetics plus early childhood experiences literally mould some peoples brain to have insufficient amounts of chemicals which make life bearable. Certain drugs directly coincide, temporarily making these people feel like normal, functioning humans with a reason to live. Drug use is deep, deep stuff which people use to cope with life. You really don't have to concern yourself - most people use drugs for a brief period then move on with their lives. It's those from truly broken childhood's who go on to become long term addicts. Something like 90% of homeless people living in Australia right now experienced trauma as children. Their brains grew up to experience a very high and constant amount of pain, depression, anxiety etc which you potentially have no idea about. Without the resources needed to go through extensive ongoing therapy, drug use might be the only means these people have found to deal with their lot in life.