Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism...

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/20.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Being left is not political incorrect pls leave for reddit or tumblr

why this fucker always post this shit?? it's the same spanish dude every fucking time

Autism

I hope all of /leftypol/ faggots get your wish and starve to death in a commune society.

I don't think liquidating the bourgeoisie is very politically correct comrade

Why are you using a device to post this? You're not a real Communist.

Hello comrade , happy to see you here once more.

You have no power here.

Bash the Fash, eh?

Come on then.

Because last time that was forced on us, my country experienced unprecedented starvation, poverty and terror, and we haven't recovered to this day. There is nothing beneficial that could ever come from seizing the means of production and removing the bourgeoise. Walking the path of communism is marching to your and everyone in your nation's death once the ideology actually takes power. Until then, it serves only to undermine the unity of the nation and weaken it. Get off while you still can. You have been warned.
Why would you ever plunge yourself and everybody you have ever known into deep poverty and a hopeless existence in an orwellian nightmare?
Nobody has ever answered it in these threads, yet they keep being made hourly. So I ask again: What would anyone ever gain from communism, except the dictator who inevitably rises to power after bloody conflict and installs a reign of terror?

Eventually comrade.

It is more so than you might understand. Try this example
"Mom Im a lenninist!"
"Thats nice dear your lunch is packet"

"Mom Im a national socialist"
"JESUS CHRIST GO TO YOUR ROOM WHILST I HAVE A TALK WITH YOUR FATHER ARE YOU INSANE"

If your political alignment isn't mer with atleast a shrug you might in fact not be politically incorrect

for U.
So politically incorrect = being edgy?

Seriously, you don't want this

Why do all Marxist cuties wear chokers now?

Dictatorships are not communism. Only the dictatorship of the proletariat happens between capitalism and communist in the socialist state in between.

Pure autism

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
fucking kek. "stage of humanity?" are you guys legitimately retarded?

Sure, the differensen is that there are intelligent political thinkers behind other ideologies. You became a marxist because it was edgy, not in spite of it, but a safe edgy that wouldn't make you hated. Oh and I have Read both Marx and Mao, so dont try that shit. The Word that comes to mind is "retarded"

Preferable to unemployment, instability on social structures, mass immigration and cultural decancy that capitalist superstructure brings.

I became Marxist due to historic nessecity and self-intrest in improving the conditions of my class.

The workingclass in Scandinavia is spoiled and living like borgeouis, you have no interests in communism other than your own capitalist greed.

t. Unemployed facctoryworker since last week

not real communism. In fact, nothing is a real communism

Labor aristocracy will eventually come down as our welfare state can`t last forever.

FUCK COMMUNISM

u

And in its Place a nationalist reactionary society naturally Will take its place

Obligatory fuck you to all lazy, stinking, degenerate communist. You know you don't have to seize the mean of production to starve yourself to death. You can just skip the whole process and kill yourself op.

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Communism isn't real.

Hey Jorge fuck you and your communist people.

oil = bolivarian subsidies = podemos

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>communism

You obviously haven't been listening to Bernie Supporters, who were undoubtedly the most engaged people in the last US general election.

That said, it IS amusing to watch people do the mental gymnastics required to support communism today.

ITT Commie faggots dream of marxism so that One they their could be a temporary shortage of Dick in their mom's Snatch due to starvation so she finally would pay attention to Them, not knowing that the dictature of the proletaritat would distribute her means of reproduction to the grand masses

>Working while starving to death and having medical tech that is little more than cough drops for syphilis and light therapy for cancer is preferable to what we have today.

You dumb mother fucker.

>Bernie Sanders
>Communist

American liberals are not communists, they still want to live under capitalism in social democracy.

Daily reminder that your dying ideology has less proponents than nazism these days.

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Show me where I said that Bernie Sanders was communist, you dumb mother fucker. Tell me where I even said a word about Sanders himself.

Ok. At first I was thinking you might be misguided, but if you think Karl Marx is a person worth building a statue to, you are full blown retarded.

You don't buy a book about dieting that was written by a morbidly obese fat man, and if you knew anything about Karl Marx's life, you would know that he is the philosophical equivalent of that. He spent his entire LIFE exploiting others, whether it was small business owners, rich friends, or his maid.

Shit poll the difference was they were a real dictatorship at the time something Russia sorely need

>Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
Indeed. As soon as capitalism is out, here comes communism to destroy whatever is left of humanity.

>that whole map

The only ones who want communism is the people whose state was never under communism

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this thread

>Well, it's either that or my family and I starve unless we can get benefits from an increasingly desperate neoliberal state or find another job despite automation being a thing and similar working conditions unless I'm lucky.

Or unless you start your own business, and work for yourself (but then, you get all the risk, too). Alternatively, you could also turn to entertainment, which is blowing up thanks to the internet. Look at where JonTron started, quality wise, and where he is now, for example. All without having to answer to anybody.

So yeah, the logic in that image is overly simplistic, and ignores many options for the sake of making it seem like you only have the choice between communism and slavery, as if you wouldn't have to make choices and face consequences for said choices within communism.

Yeah its not like communist parties are popular in places like Russia.

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nice pic name

If the people on the left wasn't a bunch of filthy non-believer degenerates, I would consider communist.

biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/20.htm
Does this sound like communist to you?

>da joos

>popular
literally no power in countries like that, all their voters are millenials likewise supporters of pussy riot and such.

what do you brainless communists think about the fact that even people who lived in soviet russia agree that you are the bourgeoisie and you are the ones who will be lined up and shot?

you probably can't even comprehend why


you sit there with your fucking ipads and $200 sneakers while the real working poor like me earn half your wage and only wear what I need, and repair the shit myself, fuming all day and dreaming about the day when I get to lynch you.

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communist can never work because all people are different and therefore have different levels of effor an skill, comunism rewards the lazy and holds the skillfull making meaningless to give more effort if you are going to get the same, comunism sucks period.

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well said my friend

what does anyone gain from completely annihilating the socioeconomic order and replacing it with a bunch of corrupt thieving communists? nothing at all

thank god there are people from former communist countries that can speak sense to these mongoloid retards who want to institute this utter disaster of an ideology in their own countries

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/leftbehindpol/ at it again.

>dictatorships are not communism
>whole point of communism is that the STATE owns everything
literally choose one
no one is gonna just democratically give their shit up

Communism is stateless.

Makes you wonder who does those commie propaganda thread.
Fuck you, leddit.

You didn't answer my question!

I really wish for you personally to live a little under a system that "isn't real x-ism" so you'd fuck off to whence you came

>stateless ideology
>good in any way
the only thing thats more retarded than state communism is that shit which you are talking about
Do you even understand the basics of economy?

and it has never existed and will never exist because in a stateless society it clearly benefits any one actor to set up and control a state authority that can tell everyone what to do GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD YOU FUCKING RETARD COMMUNISM INEVITABLY LEADS TO AUTHORITARIANISM

fuck off

>liquidating the middle class
Commit to your ideology. Start with yourself today

How do you allocate resources in a nonarbitrary way without a price system? No communist country has done it so far.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

colored red are countries that got shittier cause of communism, economically or just culturally

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory

Daily Reminder that Sup Forums is Primarily* a NatSoc board.

Communist shit for brains get out.

middle class are working class, they don't privately own the means of production.

I see cuckitalists have made a mess of russian education.

>muh safe space reeee

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Territory
The Bolshevik government in Petrograd initially allied with Makhno and considered allowing an independent area for Makhno's libertarian experiment.[10] But the Bolsheviks increasingly saw the Makhnovists as a threat to their power, both as an example and as a site of anarchist influence.[13] It restarted a propaganda campaign declaring the Free Territory to be a warlord regime, and eventually broke with it by launching surprise attacks on Makhnovist militias[14] despite the pre-existing alliance between the factions.[15]

The Bolshevik press alleged that leaders in the Free Territory, rather than being elected democratically, were appointed by Makhno's military clique. They also alleged that Makhno himself had refused to provide food for Soviet railwaymen and telegraph operators, that the "special section" of the Makhnovist constitution provided for secret executions and torture, that Makhno's forces had raided Red Army convoys for supplies, stolen an armored car from Bryansk when asked to repair it, and that the Nabat group was responsible for deadly acts of terrorism in Russian cities.[16]

A massive military occupation took place. This suppressed the Makhnovists, the Ukrainian nationalists, and other non-Bolshevik groups. The "Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic" was created, which would last until 1991. An underground Makhnovist presence would persist into the 1940s.

oh what a surprise, they were obliterated by a state actor, i certainly didnt see that coming

now tell me all about the paris commune and how successful they were

fucking retard

Mate...

Piss off you stupid communist shit you and your kind will be the first to swing on the day of the rope

>Marx=Russian Education?
Dont think so, Amigo.

It was seperated in Communes and Makhno was the leader of the army
There was a military class
There was leadership
and there was a state, or at least a confederation of statelets

Make me

>primarily a natsoc board
>soc
no
its an altright board
>XDDD I WONT ANSWER ILL JUST SEND SHITTY PICS XDDDDDDD

No it's a Fascist board
National S*cialists can fuck off

I'll just wait for Franco to be reincarnated and to peel off what filth remained. Clearly he didn't do a good enough job and must be reborn.

fuck off reformista

Who /anarcho-cryptofascist/ here?

>Make me

does anyone have that /r/socialism post which started all this shit?

this one?