Honest Hardworking English girl found dead in Australian Gentleman's club

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>Friends described her as ‘streetwise’ and said she ‘liked to have a drink’ but didn’t do drugs
>Ms Tierney was earning better money and had moved into a 'fresh new house' shortly before her death, according to a friend she used to dance with

Sucks that Police aren't expending massive resources on finding out what happened to this happy, healthy innocent young woman.

There is literally nothing wrong with strippers and prostitutes.

who gives a shit

Besides the fact it's a degenerate lifestyle.

until they're dead. That kinda puts a dampner on the evening I would say...

Her family. She wuz such a wholesome young lady.

>There is literally nothing wrong with earning your living by fucking strangers

You can tell us OP. Did you strangle her?

who cares?

OP, who is in all likelihood the murderer.

>a whore from england
>in a country that hates "pommy gits"
>dies while whoring herself

No wonder the cops don't care. She'd have better luck if she was a boong

Except any prostitute or stripper has the ability to fall into grace with Jesus. Accept Christ and all your sins will be forgiven.

The poor and sick see the kingdom before the judger of their fellow man. Besides, prostitutions in and of itself is better than sexual liberation of women to the point sexually frustrated men can't compete.

>until they're dead

You can say this for anything. There's nothing wrong with being a soldier or a cashier... unless they're dead.

Woah! she was dead already?
The fuck?!?!? I paid full price.

mmm makes sense, I'll report him

I used to hate prostitutes but then I read henshin emergence and i felt pretty bad about my disgust at prostitutes.
She deserved it, if you play a game with risk you better be ready to the possibility of dying.

>She'd have better luck if she was a boong

>tfw Lelbourne Police Dept. probably has it's own Dead Abo Taskforce...

>I used to hate prostitutes but then I read henshin emergence and i felt pretty bad about my disgust at prostitutes.
>She deserved it

I don't hate prostitutes but they are still responsible for their actions regardless of how shitty their lives are, and in this case I can't feel any empathy for the girl because she didn't need to work at this kind of job.

Nice c section scar.

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>people are responsible for what other people do

That's not how it works.

Are you willing to say it's the fault of a soldier who gets shot by an enemy combatant?

>Stacey Tierney
>Stacey

Roastie whore btfo

A soldier dies to protect their country, but this girl died only for her own greed and degenerate behavior. Walk into a snake pit and you are at fault, only this idiot girl would depend of the kindness of total strangers who only value pleasure.

Since when dead whores are news worthy??

Maybe, but that doesn't mean we should care about them.

>Honest Hardworking English girl
translation: useless whore

A soldier doesn't die for his country, quit romanticising why people join the military.

If you don't care about your fellow man you're going to have an awful time getting into the kingdom of heaven and into God's grace.

If you want to love the sinner, hate the sin, you best start trying to stop people from being whores.

Hating the sinner isn't the same as hating the sin.

You don't stop people from being whores because that's not how reality works unless you want some sort of fascist state where it's punishable, and at that point your morals are utterly bankrupt.

Were you expecting us to gloat over her death?

People that die on a risky job deserve it, there is nothing special about dying a meaningless death. People die like dogs all the time, I'm condoning the woman because she didn't have to take this work, but she still chose to do it for no reason whatsoever but her own greed. Anything that you do incurs a risk, it is no different than gambling, a gambler risks his life for a price and losing it is your own fault regardless who puts and end to it, even if it is meaningless or random you will only get what you deserve. Incurring such a big risk for easy money or guaranteed scholarship is idiotic, and I can only empathize with people that do it for a more moralistic reason and understand the risks that accompany their actions.

>People that die on a risky job deserve it

I don't think you know what the word 'deserve' means.

Pretty sure there have been multiple functioning democracies, and every other non-fascist form of government for that matter, that have outlawed prostitution.

verb
do something or have or show qualities worthy of (reward or punishment).
Every action has a deserving repercussion, quit attaching your emotions to it.

>There is literally nothing wrong with strippers and prostitutes.
>Except any prostitute or stripper has the ability to fall into grace with Jesus. Accept Christ and all your sins will be forgiven.

You seem too intelligent to just be trolling.
But your logic makes no sense user. Your statements are mutually exclusive.

Good riddance.

More whores need to die.

and nothing of value was lost

I'm not getting emotional, you're just factually and morally incorrect by saying if someone is committing an act that may result in their deaths, they are deserving of it.

You can die doing anything and die from anything, so really at the end of the day you're saying everyone deserves to die, which is some nihilistic trash if I ever heard it, or you have some sort of drawn arbitrary line where some people before it aren't deserving but people over it are.

And I'd really like to know that line and for you to explain your reasoning.

>But your logic makes no sense user.

I disagree.

She trully possessed an entripperneurial spirit.

Some people need to be saved from themselves. The libertarian philosophy that drugs and prostitution don't harm anyone but the consenting adults using them uses the faulty assumption that people's behavior occurs in a vacuum.

I'm not saying drugs and prostitution don't harm anyone. Believe it or not circumstances dictate everything.

You can say drug use is morally wrong because it affects people, but there are cumstances where drug use doesn't hurt anyone but the user. Take for example someone who might grow their own marijuana or brew their own alcohol. The faulty assumption is that people's behaviors always occur outside of a vacuum therefore affect people other than the user.

The question then boils down to are you allowed to harm yourself, and to what degrees of harm does society allow and why?

Riddle me this user

If there's literally nothing wrong with it why to they need forgiveness for doing it

Bigger risks make you more deserving of death, lower risks make you less deserving of death. People that incur great risk for greed either deserve death or their money depending of the results of their gambling. People that incur great risk out of necessity or moral causes are victims of the situation they were born in.

And the other question, what gives you the moral authority to save someone from themselves if what harm is, is subjective?

Would you save someone from walking down a street you know might be dangerous to them? Would you tell the person you walk past on the sidewalk that there's a pothole you almost tripped over?

It's a sin, so it is morally wrong according to Christian moral philosophy, but what I'm saying is Jesus understood reality and he understood that kind of profession can't be squished from all walks of life. God doesn't choose to exert his will by force, and neither does he expect us to judge and do the same.

He is the ultimate judge, and he has the final say, not man.

So yes, I might be off when I say there's "nothing wrong with it" I'll accept that, but there's more wrong is casting your fellow man for doing this. I realize that's also not an argument. Life is confusing, and so to is the righteous path.

Like I said again, you've drawn an arbitrary line.

>People that incur great risk for greed either deserve death

And you're the judge on what greed is? Why is the whore greedy? Why is the soldier greedy?

Not only is this some nihilism, this is some almost marxist ideology. People risking their lives for a better pay. That's the reality of living in a civilization where life and death hangs on the balance of how much wealth you might have.

According to you, greed has to do with the again arbitrarily drawn line of what greed is in relation to currency and how much it is required for you to be greedy. Poor people can be greedy, and wealthy people can be charitable.

you can't just expect the respect you would get from a "respectable" profession. You work as a whore, you get treated as a whore. It is that simple desu.
That said, not all professions receive the same social status. you get the status of the job you do. period. society is stratified, and we cannot expect any different. there are castes, and the prostitute caste is treated as the prostitute caste. other castes will be treated differently, and each caste has their own internal rules and regulations. and the rest can go to hell. you can't judge one castes behaviour and tastes by that of another caste.

And how is one profession inherently more respectable than another?

What criteria is there?

>Accept Christ and all your sins will be forgiven.
thats real fucking convenient, you dumb shit

>he doesn't know what accepting Christ is

*tips fedora*

>how is treating injuries and saving lives more respectable than fucking randos for cash?

>Besides the fact it's a degenerate lifestyle
The men who watch them are the degenerates desu. The women usually dont have a choice because they are poor and hungry

I was looking for answer from him, actually. Interested in HIS answer. What you're saying is things done by people that benefit the lives of others can be considered a respectable profession.

A doctor is more respectable than a prostitute, but that doesn't mean all prostitution is disrespectful or doesn't have respectful or good intentions. Many sins can be done with good intentions, and many of those sinners were put in the kingdom of heaven before the perceived moral authority.

i'm honestly not surprised

Can you imagine a world with no prostitutes, no strippers, no porn stars, etc etc. Can you imagine how incredibly sexually frustrated and depressed most men would be? Most dont like to admit it but they rely on these women a LOT.

so what was it?
murder? drug overdose? suicide?

>Can you imagine a world with no prostitutes, no strippers, no porn stars, etc etc

Not because of the benefits these people may or may not bring into the world, just because that world is a fantasy land utopia only dreamed up by Marxists and Communists.

Surprised about what?

You always have a choice. Always.

>but that doesn't mean all prostitution is disrespectful or doesn't have respectful or good intentions
You don't really believe that bullshit about women being 'forced into prostitution' do you?
People give women jobs far more than men. Single women with children are hired preferentially in most work places.

A choice between starvation or earning money to put food in your belly isn't a choice for some people who actually value living.

Of course not all women are forced into prostitution, but a lot are either by circumstances in their lives like where they're born and to who or by being physically forced into the profession by another person.

You don't honestly think it's a choice for them all, do you?

Nope. And even if the choice were between death and degeneracy, which is not a choice anybody in either of our countries or hers has faced in a very long time, that is still a choice. I've been poor and hungry before, and I've been faced with easy but immoral ways out, and I ignored them and persevered with my morals intact.

Woman is killed whole whoring in Melbourne.

>Melbourne, mudslime capital of Australia.

> I've been poor and hungry before, and I've been faced with easy but immoral ways out, and I ignored them and persevered with my morals intact.

Great for you, but you're your own person in your own country that allowed to you rise above the need to go down that road. It's not the same reality for millions of other people. If you can't understand that then there's no reason to be discussing this even further, because you don't know what you're talking about.

Strippers aren't always prostitutes. She may have been both.
Every strip club I've been to in the USA had tons of bouncers and for private shows strippers always had a body guard go with them.

No woman is forced into prostitution in Australia, no white women anyway. There's plenty of cheap/backyard brothels with young Asian Girls who have had their passports/identities taken by the brothel owners and are forded to work to get them back but that is no different from the same situation happening any country.

White women white because they want to/ are too lazy to do anything else to make money.

Would've starved first. You're just a degenerate apologist seeking to attribute the strength of my character to my circumstances. There's always something I could do, and if I were in a less civilized country, it'd be scratching in the dirt for bugs and roots before debasing myself to your and her level.

>No woman is forced into prostitution in Australia, no white women anyway.

Nope, you cannot say this at all because you don't know the situation of millions of different people.

>Nobody gets forced into a robbery

Except the person that's forcing you into a robbery, huh?

>Would've starved first.

You'd like to think that, but you're the same animal I am. Your reason for existing is to survive, and you'll survive and do anything to survive for the most part.

It's hard to disregard your programming, but hey, maybe you can do it. But I'm willing to bet you weren't in a dire enough position to warrant having to sell your ass for bread, otherwise you'd be dead or you'd be having your ass fucked right now.

> You're just a degenerate apologist seeking to attribute the strength of my character to my circumstances. There's always something I could do, and if I were in a less civilized country, it'd be scratching in the dirt for bugs and roots before debasing myself to your and her level.

Again, think of yourself as highly as possible. You're not going to know what you're going to do in that situation unless you're in the situation.

>You'd like to think that, but you're the same animal I am.
Nope, I'm a very different animal to you. You aren't convincing me and you won't, because I see through this; it's an exercise to shield your ego from your shortcomings by pretending all men share them. You are a slave to your environment, you are a lesser beast whose behavior is exclusively a function of its input. I am free. There is nothing you or anyone else can do to change that.

>otherwise you'd mostly likely be dead or you'd be having your ass fucked right now.

>she wasn't exploited by pakistanis

That's a change

Hubris my friend.

Be honest with yourself: you are not actually capable of judging authenticity, because you don't believe in it.

>105520082
don't even bother giving this faggot (You)s anymore. he just wants to derail
don't worry OP we'll hide you

If their desires surpasses their needs for happiness that is greed.
The soldier is not greedy, but he is idiotic in his pursue of security.If you do a stupid decision that leads to your own death you are at fault, the soldier should have picked a better career, one where you don't get cucked by Jerome. The whore is greedy because of her insatiable desire for cock and money, she already had a new house and plenty good money for security but still was not happy, and no amount of money can fix her daddy issues.

>had a boyfriend for 6 years

What kind of cuck dates a stripper? At what point do you lose all self-respect and dignity to go out with a woman who rides dicks for a living? Christ. At least that's one less degenerate in the world.

Young English woman dies.

Hardcore white nationalists rush to condemn her because she may have been a stripper.

Jesus Christ the state of this board.

Basically you're all upset because she was out of your league. Grow up losers

I'm honest with myself and accept my nature as a human being with humility and understanding that the worst can come out in me even as I say this now in complete comfort and ease.

There's an interesting book called Ordinary Men, and it has to do with German police battalions in Poland who despite being ordinary men who believed they couldn't do something so horrible ended up becoming the very same horrible being they never imagined possible. That's the point I'm making. You can't imagine yourself in another state of being and circumstance and accurately say for certain what you would and wouldn't do.

You're certainly not a soothsayer and you certainly do not see the obvious shortcomings that man has inherited.

The real difference between you and me is I don't claim to know myself and the future, whereas you do.

did they let a mudshit in?

That's some twisted belief, but I respect your opinion. I do not respect your respect for any sort of Marxist doctrine though, because that's pure evil.

>surpasses their needs

How do you define a person's needs?

Deserve is a adjective not a verb you fucking spic.

F

Totally intellectually dishonest comparison. By your own admission, you refer to ordinary men living in the haze of their unexamined lives. To speak of what they don't know and how it relates to their character and mine is meaningless, because they are unknown unknowns. Those are men who, like you, are beasts in human costumes. As cautioned by the theory itself, it becomes ever more seductive to just consider you zombies devoid of qualia. I know myself through individuation, and I know my future because I make it.

Fuck off leaf.
>Wah but the victims, not everybody can be accountable to themselves. Waah.

It's this exact mentality that holds them back. It holds you back. So grow the fuck up instead of spouting this nonsense.

Other dude, feel free to talk all you want. Faggot leaf doesn't have a right to silence you.

>I know myself through individuation, and I know my future because I make it.

Whatever you want to believe I guess. It's just extreme overconfidence and pride.

i'm not saying he can't speak, I said there's no reason for us to be discussing it further. Excellent reading ability, friendo.

Whether you understand it or not, circumstance dictates a lot of people. Some people have to do this or starve, and that's reality.

As discussed, it's impossible for you to actually tell whether or not it's genuine due to the way you've limited yourself.

>As discussed, it's impossible for you to actually tell whether or not it's genuine due to the way you've limited yourself.

You can't say that without also believing it's impossible for you to actually tell whether or not it's genuine due to the way the environment has limited you.

Basic healthcare, food, house, clothes, basic education, physical and economic security, friends.
sorry, i deserve a very well deserved punishment.

>Basic healthcare, food, house, clothes, basic education, physical and economic security, friends.

This is some top tier drivel.

What's a house? Is a person living in a house with an extra square foot greedy in comparison to the person with a square foot less?

Is wanting entertainment in the form of a book greedy since you don't need it? I seriously can't stand to listen to this, and it's terrifying how many young persons share your sentiments.

No, you see, accepting that there can be action beyond what the environment dictates isn't limiting yourself. We're veering dangerously close to human tape recorder territory here with your responses.

>for the wages of sin is death

>We're veering dangerously close to human tape recorder territory here with your responses.

And how are you accurately going to assume that there is always action outside what the environment dictates for all 7.5 billion people on the planet?

You've yet to really explain what that action is but that's not stopping you from saying it's always there.

>We're veering dangerously close to human tape recorder territory here with your responses.

If you're saying I'm repeating myself it's because it seems like I need to. This is why I said there's probably no reason to be discussing this further.

I can't figure you out user.

I'd put you as a nihilist if you didn't talk about sins and forgiveness, so you have to believe in a universal morality.

But you seem to suggest that a person is evaluated not on his external actions but by his internal motives, which makes any moral absolute relative to conditions known only a person himself; and which then of course makes moral judgments highly relative.

I guess you could re-coin it 'moral relativism'.

I'd consider you in the line of a Tolstoy-esqe 'mystic Christian'.

A house should be a space where people can conduct basic necessities that require privacy, like pooping, taking a shower, etc.
Your house can be big as you fucking want, but if it's big based on the selfish desire of it being bigger than other people houses that is a greedy insatiable desire. Owning a house bigger than other people is not greedy, but owning a house that takes so much space that people can't have a house of their own is selfish and inordinate. Wanting something like an entertainment book is not greedy as long that book is an achievable desire that doesn't violate other human rights.

I'd be terrified to be inside of your frame of mind for 5 seconds.

I can't figure myself out either, so no worries there.

Have you read any Tolstoy m8

Especially his religious stuff....you two might get along

If you were in my frame of my mind you wouldn't be able to.

No but I do realize there's probably a reason why I've been recommended him so many times. Might as well go grab an epub or something, thanks bud.

Trying to get through Crime and Punishment at the moment.

Wouldn't be able to be terrified? No kidding, but if I popped back into my frame of mind with full knowledge of what your experience was like I'm sure I wouldn't like it very much.

Only if you lack imagination.

>giving clicks to huffpork
>that side article on Janet Jackson having first kid at 50
See that? Empowered women can choose to have healthy babby at 50 or die a whore at 29

True necrophiles prefer them when they've been on the slab for a while - too warm and lifelike otherwise....

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