>the first people to question the existence of God were white >only philosophy which has a completely european origin unlike Cuckstianity and other semitic religions >practiced by high IQ people >is logical/reasonable >literally fits the definition of redpill because you see reality for what it really is instead of the reality that you want to see
Cuckstians and pagan morons have nothing against atheism from an argument perspective. You have ZERO basis for your belief in your magical fairy religion.
Do you have any arguments as to why you believe in fairy tales?
Nathaniel Jones
>Do you have any arguments as to why you believe in fairy tales? Yes. Occams razor tells me that creation outside of thr bounds of known science is a more likely explanation for the universe than a spontaneous event created from nothing based on laws of science that are being disproven and refigured daily.
Hunter Lee
There were atheist schools/doctrines in India and China as well
Hunter Morris
Fuck off kike
Luke Morgan
Assuming a magical man did it might be simpler, but you have to prove the magical man exists in order for anyone to take your theory seriously.
Carter Adams
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Bentley Peterson
>atheism is redpilled >that's why all the degeneracy that Sup Forums hates is movements against Christianity
also >atheism >logical/reasonable >practiced You conflate things needlessly.
Easton Morales
>the first people to question the existence of God were white
Yeah... no
>only philosophy which has a completely european origin unlike Cuckstianity and other semitic religions
Any 5 year old kid anywhere can be atheist
>practiced by high IQ people
read above
>is logical/reasonable
Do you really trust your shitty human brain to 'get' the universe with 'logic' lol
>literally fits the definition of redpill because you see reality for what it really is instead of the reality that you want to see
Ahm ... go study neuroscience please
Jackson Taylor
Really? Like you proved the big bang existed? Sounds like a double standard to me.
Nathan Miller
Neither one of those is simpler than the other, though. They're practically identical.
John Reed
Neck yourself heathen filth the majority of atheists are depraved and bluepilled. Sage
Luis Cox
It is simpler when you consider the complexity of things like intelligent life.
Robert Rivera
> atheists don't reproduce > atheists can't stand up to sandniggers > atheists promote degeneration of morality
oh yeah what a redpill xDD
Michael Martin
No really. Even the bloody pope has realised that he should pick his battles more carefully against atheists with his small but strategically wise admissions to 'liberals'. Maybe the less theologically inclined should follow suit, drop some of their autistic shit in favor of the more defendable stuff.
Nicholas Gutierrez
I can't prove an event that happened billions of years ago very easily, however a god could reveal himself to the people with no problem.
Leo Sullivan
Evidence negates faith, God tells us that faith is an important element in our spuritual journey.
Carson Thompson
This is a misunderstanding of faith that is popular in modern Protestants. Faith is not simply trust in the premise of God being real. Faith in God is a trust in God's promises to us that must be exercised in our daily lives. To explain more practically - God is to guide all things to what is best for them and through doing his will for us we find an inner peace and an inner joy in this life. To be able to live by that in the day-to-day and not resort to something else requires faith. It is a faith in God, not a faith of God.
Landon Perry
99.9% of evidence is taken on face value due to faith in the people/institutions presenting them.
saged
Jonathan Stewart
What does this prove exactly?
So you think a magical being outside the universe is a simpler explanation for our origins than say the laws of physics? Please explain why you think this.
Okay.. and?
Nice meme. But I'm afraid that's not an argument.
MUH DEGENERACY. IS. NOT. A. FUCKING. ARGUMENT.
You can be a Christian and be a degenerate. You can be an atheist and live a righteous traditional lifestyle. Also it can be argued that Christians with their turn-the-other cheek nonsense have made Europe weak to the point where it is being taken over by Arab barbarians.
>Like you proved the big bang existed? This is why nobody takes Cuckstians seriously. A 'theory' is the highest form of proof we have in science. Unless you got a better explanation for our origin, which if you do, you will win a Nobel Prize for it and basically change modern cosmology, unless you have that, then you have no way of complaining. Your theory is basically 'magic man did it!'
Ireland is Catholic as fuck and is cucked as fuck as well. You have no right to talk about depravity and being bluepilled, faggot.
How does that prove that atheism is false, you fucking leaf? And how does a believe in a magical Jewish zombie magically make you produce more babies?
The reason why atheists have fewer babies is because atheists tend to have higher IQs than the average person and higher IQ people have less children. Guess who else has a lot of babies? African shitskins. I guess that magically validates their worldview.. right? Right? You fucking moron.
Grayson Martinez
If you think you can instill proper morality into people by openly telling them what to do, you're pretty naive. You're able to crush any one of them in an instant. They won't see you as a moral figure but as a tyrant and will oppose you at every turn.
God fully revealing himself to everybody would be a terrible idea.
Alexander Young
You have to have faith of God before you can have faith in God. This is semantic dogma and does not bring Him glory.
Samuel Brooks
neckbeard faggot
Connor Ward
>Your theory is basically 'magic man did it!' and your theory is that a magic event without agency did it.
Isaac Gutierrez
I already addressed this in my original post. You're a little slow but that's understandable given your retarded worldview.
Mason Jenkins
Who gives a shit? Just believe what you want and whatever gives your life meaning.
Unless you're muslim, then get the fuck out of my country.
Robert Lee
(((The Big Bang happened)))
Brody Peterson
>MUH DEGENERACY. IS. NOT. A. FUCKING. ARGUMENT.
Of course it is.
>Sup Forums hates group causing degeneracy >group also promotes atheism >this one is totally okay however
Sure thing, brother. Of course you can be virtuous and also atheist but it's incomplete. All manner of virtuous pagans exist. You have not defended to me at all that "atheism is redpilled". In fact, you haven't presented any argument for the redpilled view whatsoever. Atheism isn't a substantial view, it's just "not theism".
Carter Bailey
No. My view is that WE DON'T KNOW yet. We don't know what existed before the universe. All we have right now is the Big Bang theory but beyond that point we don't know. We're still studying. We're still researching. We're still learning.
Your argument is a God-of-the-gaps argument and it has failed every single time. Once that big discovery is made your faith and your God will crumble once more. And you will have no more gaps with which to fit your ever minuscule God into.
Kevin Watson
> So you think a magical being outside the universe is a simpler explanation for our origins than say the laws of physics? Please explain why you think this.
Because the laws of physics are absolutely incapable of telling us about anything except the physical universe, and break down in any number of other circumstances?
> You can be an atheist and live a righteous traditional lifestyle.
In the same way you can be a smart nignog.
> How does that prove that atheism is false, you fucking leaf? And how does a believe in a magical Jewish zombie magically make you produce more babies?
It doesn't, but it prevents you from turning into a morally bankrupt mockery of a person
> The reason why atheists have fewer babies is because atheists tend to have higher IQs than the average person and higher IQ people have less children. Guess who else has a lot of babies? African shitskins. I guess that magically validates their worldview.. right? Right? You fucking moron.
haha no but they won't be the ones who are driven extinct bucko :^)
Lucas Adams
>PROVE GOD EXISTS
>B-BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PROOF IN SCIENCE ITS ALL THEORIES LOL
Your theories are going to be seen as retarded in 100 years and God will still be the creator.
Luke Kelly
>Your argument is a God-of-the-gaps argument and it has failed every single time. Once that big discovery is made your faith and your God will crumble once more. And you will have no more gaps with which to fit your ever minuscule God into.
wow you sure seem to have a lot of faith in that argument
Ian Hall
>atheistfags engaging in counter-meme warfare listen lad, literally every group gets meme'd on. Be glad yours is only a fat joke...or ull b sry
Aaron Campbell
>ITT: delusional christfags who believe that absence of religion means absence of ideology
Brody Cooper
hello
Angel Collins
Prove to me right now that religion started a majority of wars.
Brayden Lewis
No it isn't an argument and you know this. You're getting really pathetic right now.
And of course atheism is redpilled because nobody wants to believe that we are alone in the universe, that God doesn't exist or that we have no real definite purpose/destiny in this life. We die and that's it -- there is no paradise awaiting us. It's a hard truth to stomach. The majority of the world's human beings would rather feel the bliss that comes with believing that there is some higher power who created all this and who is looking after us and who will send us to heaven when we die. It's more comforting. Thus it is the very definition of being bluepilled. Atheism forces you to face reality while religion tries to mask reality to make you feel better.
Hudson Perez
Actually by that definition atheism would count as a blackpill
lurk moar
Isaiah Mitchell
>If you think you can instill proper morality into people by openly telling them what to do, you're pretty naive. God already does that.
>They won't see you as a moral figure but as a tyrant and will oppose you at every turn. Most rational people already see the christian god as a tyrant though. Look at all the horrid shit he did in the old testament.
Logan Hughes
>tips fedora
Hudson Clark
I don't need to prove that because I didn't make that argument.
Chase Fisher
>count as a blackpill Which is a subsidiary of the redpill.
and note that Caltech is on par with MIT before you try an ad hominem against this guy
Noah Robinson
This is a waste of time, but materialist atheism is not unique to white cultures. Charvaka, which is a 2600 year old materialist philosophy, originated in India. It's not completely white, and people through out all cultures have questioned the existence of god.
I'm wasting my time because I'm engaging an Australian in debate.
Nicholas Watson
>You have to have faith of God before you can have faith in God. This is semantic dogma and does not bring Him glory.
This is not semantic at all, you and I are using terms in two different ways. And no, nothing if said of faith of God. What matters is faith in God.
I'm not sure why I'm laughing.
I think the worst thing is all these mainstream atheists just continue to judge all of Christianity by Evangelical beliefs and childish interpretations they grew up with. None of them have even a grasp of how any classical theologian would understand God or generally the stuff they disagree with. It's embarrassing.
They are not identical but they go entirely hand in hand, user.
>No it isn't an argument and you know this. It's more substantial than the bullshit you said in the OP.
>And of course atheism is redpilled because nobody wants to believe that we are alone in the universe, that God doesn't exist or that we have no real definite purpose/destiny in this life
What people want to believe has no correlation to what is true.
>the rest
You don't defend any of it. The term "redpill" means the true narrative or the real situation. You're just stating shit. Something "hopeless" doesn't make it more real, you dumbass.
Also pic related if you wish to talk about comfort.
Noah Morgan
> God already does that.
He doesn't appear in the sky and shout at everyone to behave on pain of damnation, is more what I meant. That's what He did in the Old Testament, and it didn't work out very well. But in the (non-Protestant) Christian view, the Old Testament is more like a compilation of fun myths and stories than an account of reality.
> Which is a subsidiary of the redpill. > nihilism and defeatism are redpills
poorly memed
Caleb Price
>nobody wants to believe that we are alone in the universe,
wrong
>that God doesn't exist or that we have no real definite purpose/destiny in this life
wrong, there are plenty of people who are in a position to be empowered by this, to promote this ideology.
Seeking purpose/destiny is merely a byfunction of the way that our brains giving value to reality work. Our brains are lazy and see the Occam's razor, or easiest assumption for the big questions.
Atheism is the easiest of them, it doesnt address reality, just other people's dumbness.
>We die and that's it -- there is no paradise awaiting us. It's a hard truth to stomach.
And how the fuck would you know what happens to a mind after the body ceases functioning, theres plenty of data to indicate that there is a continued existance after bodily death.
>The majority of the world's human beings would rather feel the bliss that comes with believing that there is some higher power who created all this and who is looking after us and who will send us to heaven when we die. It's more comforting.
projection
>Thus it is the very definition of being bluepilled. Atheism forces you to face reality while religion tries to mask reality to make you feel better.
Thats just like your completely uninformed opinion.
Its clear you have never studied psychology, neuroscience or religious thought in any detail.
Nathan Gray
Can you summarize? Or come up with your own points? Because I could easily post a video of Lawrence Krauss showing how a universe could come from nothing and that wouldn't be proof of anything.
Also this guy is a creationist. And makes the god of the gaps argument basically throughout the whole thing.
Adam Morgan
Nihilism and defeatism have nothing to do with atheism you fucking leaf.
Eli Stewart
Thats a great quote and checked
Robert Fisher
>And how the fuck would you know what happens to a mind after the body ceases functioning, theres plenty of data to indicate that there is a continued existance after bodily death. Where's this data? If you are talking about near death experiences then you must know that they are NEAR DEATH not DEATH experiences. You can experience God/heaven/angels on LSD or DMT and it doesn't prove these things exist in reality. Same with near death experiences.
Dominic Jenkins
>hahaha i made a poorly drawn cartoon depicting how your memes are stale and bad hahahahhaa You realise this shit was made to to trigger you? How stupid do you have to be?
Carson Barnes
People who promote them use this exact reasoning to support the claim that they're "redpilled", but they obviously aren't.
Atheism is the bluepill. There is nothing rational or logical about atheism. You simply have blind faith in the assumptions of others while being taught to criticize that behavior outside of yourself. You have no proof that there is no God. You accept that position on blind faith. Christians hold the largest amount of wealth (55% of the total world wealth) deccanherald.com/content/453467/christians-hold-largest-percentage-global.html6 The one and only correct way of handling religion is worshipping Kek while claiming to be christian in public to preserve your culture
Christian Ward
Nice points, OP, but what proof and evidence do you have that atheism is accurate and correct?
Daniel Ramirez
None of that post implies nihilism or defeatism. It implies having to face the harsh reality of existence which is not the same thing. Just because a person doesn't believe in a higher purpose or destiny doesn't mean they can't have a purpose in life.
Isaac Butler
Fuck off shockofgod. Your question is retarded
Lucas Moore
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Jaxon White
Being redpilled is all about traditionalism and virtue. >How do you assert morality/virtue without declaring the existence of a higher power/social order/ natural law etc? >Nihilism, Hedonism, Social Contract-Theory, Moral Relatavism and all other secular philosophies are completely degenerate and blue-pilled.
Matthew Torres
>prove your point >fuck off
user pls
Anthony Perry
Another atheist defeated by the question.
Kayden Brown
God is outside the observable Universe, since He created it. We need tools to detect MOs, yet you want to view God Himself?
Thomas Hernandez
Reminder agnosticism is the true redpill. Blind belief in either god or lack thereof is stupid.
Levi Richardson
I don't feel like we should be held accountable for teenage edgelords.
Adrian Rodriguez
>"Only things that can be scientifically proven are true." >"Prove the previous statement" >"fuck off"
I think we're done here.
Jonathan Collins
Must be a pretty shit god if he can't enter our universe.
Nathaniel Murphy
>There are people here who unironically believe in god
Parker Reed
Wrong, Deism is the one true theistic redpill.
God gave us reason, not religion.
Logan Bennett
Welcome to Sup Forums, you must be new. We've had religious generals consistently for the past 2 years. They stopped just as the election came to a close.
Henry Cox
TOPKEK
Kevin Turner
How new? Being redpilled is all about creating the Übermensch that is above silly ape ancestor residue like spirituality. It needs to bred out via eugenics, if that is necessary to achieve it.
Brayden Davis
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Anthony Adams
Christianity is a jewish religion that is a weapon to mentally castrate the aryan race and destroy their sworn enemy the roman empire.
Dylan Morales
Christianity has never helped you except tell you that you are a sinner which comes from a god you need to believe exists in the first place.
Carter Richardson
>Implying Sup Forums doesn't ride Evola's dick like a tiger
Eli Brown
Which is totally why all anti-semitism extends from Abrahamic religions and the view of the Jews from that, right? Did you miss the Jewish ghettos? Stop being stupid.
>making absurd claims about my personal life
user what Your bias has made you totally irrational.
Juan Lopez
> atheist Ubermensch
pic related
Judaism changed drastically after the Bar Kokhba Revolt, when the Romans dismantled Judea and the diaspora started. That's when the modern insidious version of Judaism became a thing. That was in like 135 AD, long after Christianity had spread - and Christianity took its modern shape in Europe. Christianity is European.
The rise of atheism has coincided with the rise of moral looseness and all forms of degeneracy.
Thomas Sanchez
My point of view is a bit different If you're red pilled, you don't neccessarily need to be christian, since you would be acting in the interests of your people and being moral without the need of the higher power telling that to you. I think there is more evidence of Kek as a god than Jesus and I don't really like the leftist/pro-kike ideas that Christianity promotes, but it's neccessary for the lemmings to be christians, since you can't expect them to be redpilled. But it's still right to present yourself as a christian, since that's one of the things that holds the society together among other positives. tl;dr belief is a neccessity only for people that are subjected to and can't see past the degeneracy, the independent minority can be good people without the fear of the higher force. Praise Kek
Caleb Stewart
Both of you are right, being redpilled means many different things, nu-user... Also --->
Connor Wilson
CHRISTIANITY IS A JEWISH MORALITY
THIS IS ARYAN MORALITY
>christianity has morals
>without christian morality we would all die from barbarian
This is actual barbarism.
>Tacitus says (Ch. 2, “Origion and descent of the Germanics”) that physically, the Germanic peoples appear to be a distinct (indigenous), racially pure nation, not a blood admixture of their neighbors: "For my own part, I agree with those who think that the tribes of Germany are free from all taint of intermarriages with foreign nations..." They are divided into three large branches, the Ingaevones, the Herminones and the Istaevones, deriving their ancestry from three sons of Mannus, son of Tuisto, their common forefather.
>He also records (Ch. 19, “Sanctity of marriage”) that adultery is detested and very rare, and that an adulterous woman is shaved of her hair and exiled by the community regardless of her beauty. To limit childbearing or to kill children (abortion) is considered criminal. “In Germany good morals (customs) are worth more than good laws.”
>The death penalty is reserved for two kinds of capital offenses: military treason or desertion was punished by hanging, and moral infamy (cowardice and homosexuality[9]) was punished by throwing the condemned into a bog. The difference in punishment is explained by the idea that "glaring iniquities" must be exposed in plain sight, while "effeminacy and pollution" should best be buried and concealed.[10] Minor legal disputes were settled on a day-to-day basis by elected chiefs assisted by elected officials.[11]
There exists a dillema in intellectual discourse of creating a false dillema between Christianity and Atheism, when in fact, someone can be Buddhist, Pantheist, Deist, Zoroastrianist, Pagan etc.
Lincoln Perry
>btfo atheists in the thread Based WOLFSHEIM silencing the snake once more
Gabriel Gomez
>pic That's the biggest misundersting about christianity If the Bible is fake, and it probably is, it was written as a jewish propaganda, agreed. But the thing is that the times have changed and the values of christianity that were great for the jew plan are now the exact opposite, and preventing jews from making more marxist nihilists The biblical jew couldn't predict that his propaganda book would end up as a thing that would instead harm his ancestors
Benjamin Nguyen
Fuck off shill. Friendly reminder that Sup Forums is a Christian board.
Luis Mitchell
>make claim >don't defend it >defend against claim I didn't make >defense shows barbarians with similar morals to Christians in an either absolute sense or culturally similar one
Seeing your defense, wouldn't that disagree with your claim that barbarian and Christian morality are two different things? The Christians at the time wouldn't be any different, though I'm sure thats not everything about them both.
Oliver Hall
I don't really get your point, what's the message you tried to tell?
David Parker
The only ones who are starting shit snd subverting the forum are christians. Pol has been keks board forever before your christcucks came and try to ruin it.
Go and take your crusade to the kikes with you.
Christian blames his subversion of pol on muslims archive.is/NDrXC
>links to archive.is but uses reddit spacing Come on (((TRS))), you're better than this
Kevin Hall
We have never had religion generals for the past two years
WE HAVE ONLY HAD A CATHOLIC GENERAL SINCE YOU STARTED IT YOU CHRISTKEK SHILL
William Cox
Reminder monotheistic Christianity tamed the barbarians and is responsible for civilization as we know it.
Reminder that those barbarians are coming back.
Jaxon Hughes
Do you want me to dig up all of the pathetic atheist faggots on Reddit who yearn for a thick immigrant dick to suck?
> We have never had religion generals for the past two years
wrong
Caleb Flores
The statement of "a higher power telling that to you" implies that the higher power has agency and is anthropomorphic as opposed to a universal standard or connection. A "wizard sky jew who hates gays and clothes mad of different fabrics" is a lot easier to attack. Also, people have been attacking Christianity directly as a defense for Atheism, when there are many alternatives, that should be accounted for. >Can't be so narrow-minded.
Luke Collins
>Pol has been keks board forever before your christcucks came and try to ruin it.
Kek is a meme that developed around the mid election cycle, m8.
>all these links about people saying stuff >telling of Christians collectively I admit I started the Catholic Generals out of the common Christian Generals but Christian generals were very common and Catholic ones exist without me.
I'm out. Goodnight.
Charles Hill
Open the news and look at secular atheist society. Do you like what you see? It's a proven failure, worse than communism. At least communism didn't lead to cultural and national suicide. Atheism is bluepilled as fuck.
James Roberts
>Why is christianity the okly source of anti-semitism
You filthy lying shill.
The history of antisemitism – defined as hostile actions or discrimination against Jews as a religious or ethnic group – goes back many centuries; antisemitism has been called "the longest hatred."[1] Jerome Chanes identifies six stages in the historical development of antisemitism:
Pre-Christian anti-Judaism in ancient Greece and Rome which was primarily ethnic in nature Christian antisemitism in antiquity and the Middle Ages which was religious in nature and has extended into modern times Traditional Muslim antisemitism which was—at least in its classical form—nuanced, in that Jews were a protected class Political, social and economic antisemitism of Enlightenment and post-Enlightenment Europe which laid the groundwork for racial antisemitism Racial antisemitism that arose in the 19th century and culminated in Nazism Contemporary antisemitism which has been labeled by some as the New Antisemitism[2]
why would you trust your shitty human brain to know that there is some guy who made the entire universe
Charles Stewart
Was atheism something that needed to be organized like some fucking religion? I thought it was just something someone else who is religious would call you if you didn't care it.
Atheists are fucking embarrassing, as a non believer of anything, please shut the fuck up.
