Sup Forums's thoughts on MGTOW

What does the average poltard (you) think about MGTOW.

Are modern women not worth your time?

Is not having children degenerate?

I'm actually undecided on MGTOW, i'm considering following it but i'm not sure.

Redpill my faggots

I'm 19 years old.

I am handsome, smart, athletic and virile.

I have a novel that is in it's final editing stage, and a creative writing professor at my college has read the first draft and thinks it's saleable.

I have a girlfriend who is confident, articulate, playful and spontaneous.

I have a small group of interesting friends from different social and academic backgrounds, and I also have many other acquaintances who see me as a reliable source of humour and good company.

Both my parents are alive and in good health.

I have no regrets.

I have already experienced three existential crises, the latter of which was described as having the depth and profundity of a man twice my age.

I am a passionate lover, a sharp thinker, and a trader of witty repartee.

I am not self-pitying, meek or needlessly humble.

I will live a good life at your expense.

So you are going to change it for porn and become even bigger cuck?

Dont watch porn.
Fuck woman, but dont take them seriously in anything, use them only for fucking.

The end.

I'm trying to stop watching porn actually, I think it's really disgusting.

You're probably right with the fuck and dump thinking

MGTOW are giving up. The real answer is if you train them right females will not give you any problems at all. They like a strong manly leader so they wont have to worry their pretty little heads off.

a lot of people these days are cancerous

to argue that isolating yourself from women will have either a positive effect on your life or society is baseless and retarded

all of that aside, I would be very interested in how a soveriegn state composed only of men would develop in comparison to a female state. (low key i think men are responsible for many innovations and civilizations, but are inherently violent and dangerous in ways that women are not)

Red pill yourself a bit about what Izrael did with porn in Palestine (I dont have the link), also look up Frontal lobe damage and explore it a bit.

It literally turns you into a passive cuck.

Dont stop fucking, evading nature is futile. But be smart about it, and just for love of yourself, never take woman seriously.
They are born hedonists.

>I'm actually undecided on MGTOW

Here let me decide for you.

>believing that you are the one who is in control when it comes to male-female dynamics
>here's a list of things you have to do in ordr for your woman to get bored and not fuck other guys

The only sensible choice for people who've made anything of themselves. I can see why you'd want to get married if you live in a council flat on charity shop furniture though.

>MGTOW

just be gay, its great not having to deal with women

Pseudo intellectual overly vain faggot mother fucker

This pasta gets me angry

MGTOW is based on the vast overgeneralization that all women, everywhere, from every culture, are completely fucked.

I can understand someone who does it for whatever personal reasons they have, I don't give a shit. Anyone who subscribes to MGTOW because they're angry at women is a fucking idiot.

That said, the bottom part of that pic reminds me of someone.
>went through 4 years of college in NYC studying engineering
>posts selfies all day with obnoxious captions like "mascara and a hardhat #femaleengineer" or "it's always better when you can work with the boys in yoga pants #femaleengineer"
>she now works for a public engineering firm and continues posting obnoxious bullshit

Being gay is for faggots , also men are fucking disgusting, I should know I am one

>fags trying to indoctrinate others into their cult

why do you have that saved, what are you a faggot or something?

MGTOW is obviously legit.

Modern women are cancerous, the more you avoid them the better your life becomes.

Mgtow is for ugly men who never stood a chance

National socialism / self-improvement is for disenfranchised average to good looking men to re-evaluate their life and find a good wife, rather than a one-night stand

Pretty simple to understand.
Any man who is objectively average-looking and says they are MGTOW are memeing or temporarily off women, soon enough they'll raise a wifes son or go nazi.

MGTOW is great, 5 star ideology. Really good. I like it.

>not evolving past the vaginal jew

i pity you m8

Delusional. If you think you can control a woman who lives in a female-liberated society, you are truly out of your mind.

Being this new

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>I have already experienced three existential crises

>not beeing white
>living in a poor country
>still a virgin

hmm well that was the only part that was believable

I opted out of relationships, but I'm not into the MGTOW movement. It's to much like feminism. I think it's society as a whole that make relationships today so risky and blaming just men or just women for it's problems is ignorant.
It reminds me of an experiment with mice in a perfect world, were all the needs were met.

>being incapable of reproduction

MGTOW is the consequence of feminism, which the Jews pushed. I hold no ill will against MGTOWs currently - but when we reinstate traditional society and some still stay MGTOW, that's when we need to purge them.

>having your cock covered in another man's shit

All faggots must be shot in the back of the head with a large caliber gun so as to prevent facial recognition.

I'll look into that

Thanks russiabro

There are many good women left in the world. MGTOW is for sperglords who aren't getting any.

sure bro.

it is not like divorce rates these days are 50%

not like brad bit or george cloony got divorced.

Nop. I fap around once a day and I'm fine. I don't feel any guilt or shame either.

For me it's the risks versus rewards, I could get a girlfriend right now but I don't want to deal with the consequences. I personally can't handle relationships, but I don't agree with the shit feminism, or MGTOW preaches . I honestly don't want to waste time and money on a relationship that is going to fail like every other one I was in did.

Main argument MGTOW tards use is "womyn aint worth it/cant keep it".

You arent doing it for wymin, you are doing it to get you dick wet.

Simply dont commit, we know already they are all hookers, so go get some and stop bitching.

Did you try to stop for a bit, and by a bit I mean one week minimum?

>not knowing what incapable means

you're not incapable of sex just because you're a virgin

>he cant into enemas

I'm neither actively pursuing nor denying women, I'm doing what I love doing (music, programming, math),
I've been in a relationship that took away almost all my drive and ambition to pursue my passions.
And while sex is awesome, I'm not trying fuck random gash and contract exotic diseases.
It's a scientific fact that settling down and especially having kids, lowers men's testosterone and raises women's testosterone.
Now frankly, I'm still using what testosterone I have to be competitive, sharp, and self-centered mind while I still have it.
Until I find a woman that can handle my ambitions, I'm sticking on improving myself.
Or maybe I'm just saying this so I can fuck your women.

Totally valid, but if you don't date you'll never find the right one. That's a risk in and of itself.

You could absolutely control your woman if the law stayed out of it. The law does not stay out of it. Prenuptial agreements are dismissable in court based on the judge's opinion.

Yes I did. The orgasms after it were great once I returned to porn. But during that time I had no oppurtunity to fap at all so I naturally didn't think about it. I just do it when I'm at home and thinking about sex.

I don't think I'll have more willpower if I fap less than once a day.

*DAILY REMINDER ALERT DAILY REMINDER ALERT*

kek

Well why didnt you cum in a fucking woman?

>needing to remove shit from its natural biological place for another mans sexual gratification

You can't justify your disgusting unnatural habits to me. Faggots like you are literally disgusting.The only "friends" you have in that corner are other faggots and liberals, and some of them are the same thing. Sounds like a hell of a team.

Just get some fuckbuddies until you outwhored the whores

should only be SEM

Anal sex isn't the only way gay guys get off, you know, tons of guys dont even like anal. btw I dont have any gay friends, all my friends are straight

It's smarter for a man to go his own way when he's in his 20's. It's better not to be tied down to one girl until you're in your 30's when your sexual market value is at it's highest. Being single forever might make you miserable though.

This mindset has always existed in the past, now thanks to feminism and marxism in general it has become a political identity. Usually angry beta's who didn't get rewarded with sex for being good boys like they expected.

I don't like to have sex I find it embarrassing. I don't like blowjobs I don't like putting on a condom. The cuddling fondling and kissing is great. I have no attraction to guys so that isn't it either. I just don't find sex enjoyable. Which is kind of hypocritical since I fap once a day.

I don't need to find the right one, I'm ok alone , I plane on being a grouchy old man in the future

Try to not fap for a week and try fucking after that.
It made you cum stronger to porn, it may solve your problem, if you think about it like that.

MGTOW means not falling for the diamond jew, not being celibate.

A natural reaction to current gender relations, but you get over it when you realise that not everything's about you, but about creating a legacy and creating offspring. This becomes especially apparent when you become a racialist. I think I spent about half a year as MGTOW but then I started criticising myself and trying to change my own ways.

Not having children is one of the most majorly unnatural things you can do nowadays.

Be a "bachelor", it's similar to MGTOW but without all the autism

Do they change definition of it every day?
Or simply when its needed to do so?

>Clusterfuck of smelly neckbeards insisting she's out there somewhere and don't want to accept the reality learned by literally countless men with literally tens of thousands times better game, looks and life situation.

I'm convinced sex is a meme, I also found it less enjoyable than fapping.

just don't take women seriously

think of them like if they were permanent teenagers. Is their biology, they can't stop it

I've been listening to Sandman, Honeybadgers. MGTOW 101, Angry MGTOW, and a few others for about a year trying to make sense of it.

The MRAs isn't MGTOW, even though they are often interchanged, and the red pill isn't either of them, but is more like an aspect they share. This was tricky t6o figure out because they use a lot of similar talking points, but MRAs seem to be more about talking on the inequality men face in a world of female privilege.

MGTOW is basically a feminism counterculture. There might be some valid ideas, but they're are lost in the same kind of echo-chamber that feminism falls victim to. Generally, MGTOWs come from a place of pain or disenchantment, and so their messages are often rife with anger and generalizations based on subjection. Like Feminism, they are proned to derision, hate, and more emotionally driven arguments based loosely on numbers or cherry picking.

Like feminism, these men seem to live under some delusion that their way is better, brighter, and feasible. Sandman is an excellent example of what I mean as many of his videos bear an intellectual ring, but are often full of vitriol, sweeping generalizations, more opinions than fact, and many MANY hypocrisies (ex: "Don't bother with women" followed by "Let me tell you about this women I recently dated/will date).

>Is not having children degenerate?
Look at the degenerates having children. I'd say breeding isn't inherently one or the other, but what people do with who they breed.

On top of which breeding now isn't what it was, so the message is confused. Formerly, men had more power than they do now. Women were also not being conditioned to think that men are useless wallets they "don't need", man-hating wasn't this high, and being promiscuous was actually shameful (even in the 90s in most places).

MGTOW is just feminism for angry men instead of angry women. Women are ruthless, and not as motivated by anger as they are simply misdirected.

Depends on where you live, and how women were raised. Thank God we dont have this feminist sjw shit here, although greek women see themselves as royalty...in the end though, as we say the most difficult surgery is to remove the dick from the female brain, so mgtow is the beta avoidance solution. Alphas dont have such problems. Be a jerk, women love "bad boys". I start talking to women on the street and they tilt just because I have the balls to do that. You are a hunter by nature. They are prey. Bet on the instincts and you will never lose. Dont ever go to a thinking-mindfucking hunt. You must possess the necessary skills for that, and the woman too. Just be a dick and some girl will eventually sit on you.

>What does the average poltard (you) think about MGTOW.

Mostly beta cucks who have had either one relationship that ended poorly or no relationships ever (and either way have no one to blame but themselves because shit attracts shit, if anything at all). A few just unlucky enough to have met enough shitty women to think they're all that bad.

>Are modern women not worth your time?

Many of them, yes. Still plenty of good ones left (if you have anything to offer them yourself).

>Is not having children degenerate?

No.

Don't bother with MGTOW - there's nothing to stop you having relationships on your terms and you don't need a label or a community of disenchanted blokes to do so. Don't want to get married? Just don't then. Sick of shitty women? Don't date them. Can't attract decent women? Improve yourself until you can. MGTOW is basically an admission of defeat.

It's far more likely you are the smelly neckbeard, user. Why the sudden urge to stop doing what is natural for thousands of generations just because you can't handle how cunts are? Weak.

Post a selfie right now

It's the only logical step. When the price of pussy is too high demand will go down to lower it.

falling for pasta

I have mixed feelings.
I hate women. I've met maybe 2 or 3 in my life that were tolerable, and one was a dyke.
On the other hand, I do like vagina. Only one girl has let me into her but it was the best 6 months of my life until she cheated on me and I got a good excuse to dump her without her friends hating me for it, which they then did anyway.

Women are tricky man. The only way to truely win is to either be chad or kill yourself and pray that Buddha lets you reroll your stats.