Be honest: How many of you guys are/were liberals/libertarians but ended up with the "alt-right" because you object to...

Be honest: How many of you guys are/were liberals/libertarians but ended up with the "alt-right" because you object to a bunch of sour-faced schoolmarms-in-training threatening to ruin your porn and video games.

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No. Fuck off faggot nigger

I see my compass point there tbqh

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I still use "alt right" as an insult.

This movement doesnt even exist. if you think posting r/Sup Forums memes makes you a political party you should seek medical attention, at least if your obongocare covers it.

Honestly I just joined up with gamergate to attack leftists. Did also teach me something about how ridiculous the media is in general

Kill yourself shill.

Go die in a fire OP

I'm basically communist by american standards and I still agree more with the alt-right than any other political force in the US.

The american left ruined themselves with identity politics, just like the european left ruined themselves with muh refugees

> deterministic 2d political compass is not a tool to persuade gullible people to follow false prophets
> unironically forcing alt-right meme

>Daily reminder that the Political Compass Test™ is heavily skewed down and to the left.

The green square in reality is absolute retardation.

>Authoritarian Left isn't represented by a starving kid as well
largest of laughs

i m still a left-libertarian
go trump

Here (you) go faggot, Sup Forums's political journey in one photo.

I Am ambiguous about a lot of social issues bit mostly fall under the ideas "stay out of my business," "government is a necessary evil," and "corperations are not people." So I guess you're right.

>not knowing intuitively that libertarianism is an untenable childish ideology

Me.

I was a fairly far left liberal until social justice started screaming to the world that white males needed to be genocided.

This was the first time I ever voted for a Republican for President.

I'm not alt-right, though, I'm a centrist Libertarian.

I literally don't give a shit what others do as long as it doesn't affect me, and my morals are a mix of liberal and conservative.

It's not untenable at all. Maybe in America yes as a whole, yes. But not untenable in a communist kind of way. But in that case you should be aware of the utopian paradox. Every planned society is bound to fall or reformat civilly. There's no perfect system.

I'm pretty sure libertarianism is just the idea that people can do whatever they want so long as it doesn't actually harm others.

You're thinking of anarchism if you think it means there are literally no laws..

The most authoritarian in the blue quarter is close to what I get.
2008 put me this left on the x.
Leftists insisting on importing the scum of the Earth put me this up on the y.

I actually think that porn and vidya being ruined would be a major improvement to Western world.

>alt-right
Hello newfriend shill

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if you been on pol more than two month and you still green, please kill yourself

What the fuck? Don't these people know how to play Battleship?

i been here since this board was started and on new before that

i never really gave a shit about gamergate i live in the deep south nothing redpills you like dealing with niggers everyday i sympathize heavily with south africans

Sort yourselves out!

The perfect system is American Conservatism.

Strength, liberty, and just enough gaps in the police state for temporary anarchy (IE: you can smoke weed in your home)

>current year + 2
>not being a Lockean classical liberal

browsing Sup Forums made me move two squares left

this
most people end up in green square no matter what, when they ask questions like "Do you believe companies should held responsible for their actions they push you into the green.

This.
It's a very simple principle.

Without liberals trying to shove their shit into our face, we would be more "moderate", but we still wouldn't be lefties.

If you find someone here who was a lefty years ago and is now at the right side, then he switched sides because he grew up and not because of current political events.

The political pendulum has the power to move the avarage a bit — but if you are far right and the pendulum swings to the left, then you are moderate right or centric, but you don't switch sides.
Switching sides happens when you grow up or when your surroundings drastically change. For example if you are a conservative in a rural area and you move into a lefty infested city, then you either assimilate and be a lefty yourself or you see the whole multiculti shit, hate it, and you are suddenly a hardcore stormfag.

It's called getting redpilled Tyrone

>conservatives would let you smoke weed or do any kind of drug
This is why I don't consider myself republican. Christian values are fucking gay and only get cherry picked to scrutinize anyone for anything, left and right. I literally fall on the origin two blocks down.

I'm was a nationalist libertarian before gamergate, and still consider myself one today. Freedom for citizens/legal residents within the US border, fuck everyone else.

Gaymergate fags were liberal fools who actually believed all the feminist lies. They actually thought feminists would argue in good faith and were interested in fairness and equality, not domination and abuse.

You're a complete retard. Find God or suffer eternally.

I still call myself a conservatarian. I like Conservative Principles and Libertarian Economics.

>preserving the ideals of the constitution yet still maintaining boarders language and culture
>regulation kept to an extreme minimum
>government tiny
>Flat 7% tax rate
>5% import tariff
>no SSI
>No Medicare/Medicaid
>military isolationist except for an active Merchant Mariner Corps and Expeditionary Force (Current status of the USMC)

if I could still remains ideologically consistent and have a one state religion (I can't) it would be Orthodox Christianity.

>gamergate
>alt right

Way to latch onto every MSM boogeyman label you can, faggot.

And other reasons. But I am an liberal ethno-natinalist and anti-sjw. So by default I'm alt-right, since there is no alt-left.

Do you have any particular video of Peterson that made you drift all the way left?

I've been following him somewhat, but I remain unconvinced of his left leaning stance. I might have missed the better videos of his.

I was on the center, but I've moved to the right and closer to the authoritarianism.

The Gamergate fags were not interested at all in politics. They were not right and not left.
Maybe some of them voted lefties, because the media told them to do that.
They were basically normies who didn't care about politics and just wanted to play vidya.
But feminists forced their agenda onto them, so they started to actual.y think about politics.
Without the whole gamergate thing, most of them wouldn't vote at all and would just stay home and play vidya instead.

There is alt-left coming up. Melechon hates the EU, and want to close the borders. Hell, Bernie was more likely to actually curtail immigration than Trump is.

Welfare state and borders are inherently linked. Idiots think that increased welfare means more immigrants, but that is ridiculous because rich countries get infinite immigrant if they allow it regardless of welfare.

What decides immigration is the native population. Welfare state means it is a bad idea and impoverishes the natives if they let in immigrants, so it pushes against immigration.

US style no welfare system means the natives can benefit from immigration so they eventually get replaced by the immigrants.

Only the neoliberal """left""" supports open borders, but those guys spend most of their time attacking labour anyway.

Eh. I think its a bit mixed up.

The starving kid should be Authoritarian Left since that's where communism ends up.

Authoritarian right should be SPAM. Since all your food is now in war rations.

Libertarian left should be the burger since you have a choice of whatever you want. Even if it gives you a heart attack and is full of drugs.

Steak is fine for the Libertarian Right. Since you probably own the cattle.

Libertarianism is about supposedly letting people do anything that doesn't hurt anyone else but actually is about being too autistic to realize all of the different ways your behavior can affect others. Libertarians aren't the first people out there to think you should be allowed to do what you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else-- it's the position of pretty much everyone else in the world, even religious extremists who want to regulate sexual behavior. The disagreement is about what effects your behavior actually has.

I don't understand people who just vote for "Dude, weed, LMAO".
If this really is the thing they care about the most, then i am sure that they have some serious drug problems.

People who just care about "Legalize it" are the reason why i am strictly against legalization. They are the living prove that even the ordinary harmles drugs like cannabis can have a serious influence at your life.

>inb4 Muh, alcohol is bad too, muh
Yes, we have a serious problem with alcohol and we should think about how we can fix it.

Peterson is actually most like old left. The ones before materialism. The left used to be highly religious.

See:
youtube.com/watch?v=jxBSKLxt3Wc

But he is not that liberal. He believes in the value of dominance hierarchies, including gender roles. That is far right nowadays.

The difference from the right wing is that he believes all dominance hierarchies are inherently archaic and need constant reform and thus need to be always challenged.

Always was and still am a monarchist

>don't care about porn
>don't play video games
I'm a libertarian nationalist. I believe in personal freedom and individual responsibility, and I believe that non-whites are a direct threat to that, as they tend to vote overwhelmingly for more state power, have little concept of the future, breed uncontrollably and consume disproportionate resources.

All statists are cucks, fascists included.

Thank you, Finnbro, I'll watch that when I have some time.

And you put your finger exactly where my confusion lied: all his talks about gender roles, but still calling himself left wing in quite a few videos left me with more questions than answers.

I also appreciate his religious talks and analogies, and even though I'm still atheist, he is part of the many things that gave a rise to my spiritual research. I know he has a talk on the 16th with Sam Harris, which will be very interesting to watch.

>bernie was more likely to actually curtail immigration than Trump is.
i love ya finland but this is completely fucking stupid

>Started mid green
>Ended here

Thanks Sup Forums Now I'm happier, healthier, and have a job.

Also alt-right is a blanket term used by the media to label anything they don't like. It's not to be used for once's self.

You missed my point completely. I don't do any drugs besides the ones I'm prescribed. My point is personal freedom. There should only be laws against people killing others or putting them in harms way, not killing or harming themselves. This is why I don't care about drugs.

I am a spiritual person, but I will never follow an organized religion. I didn't realize good Christians said faggot.

I always ended in the authoritarian center (mid vertical scale) but I can tell you that people in the green have girlfriends (unlike edgy blue) and purple ones are just criminals. Also extreme red dont know what North Korea is.

He didn't say faggot. So that leaves us with either you're a huge closet homo, you're projecting, or both.

still in the green

I don't know why you'd go from libertarian to alt-right because of SJWS criticizing porn and video games since those things are acceptable free market enterprises according to libertarians but the alt-right criticize them almost as much as degenerate jew schemes hobbling the modern man.

Care to explain?

He said retard, my bad. Thank you for making a literal human faggot (strawman)

>My point is personal freedom. There should only be laws against people killing others or putting them in harms way, not killing or harming themselves. This is why I don't care about drugs.
This only applies if you live in a country with no welfare and social security system at all.
If someone is a faggot and his whole life just consists of drugs and gets gibsmedat, then i fucking care, because i have to pay for this idiot.
And if he is some really huge faggot and gets into some serious health problems, i have to pay for that too.
I don't care if someone kills himself (and he has some good reasons for it), but i care if someone decides to leech from society.

I don't believe in the "left", "right" dividing narrative and neither should you. The leaders of our nations should base decisions on what's good for the people. Their job should be to find a way to satisfy all.

One of the first signs of this system breaking up is Trump/Brexit. The gap is getting to wide. If you know your history you know what happens when the gap between people gets to wide.

>If you know your history you know what happens when the gap between people gets to wide.
Race war now!

No wonder. A shitty movement was organized by left-wing lolberturdians - hardly any different from the SJWs they so criticized

I also believe in drug testing for welfare. Functioning addicts don't bother me, neither do homeless ones because they eventually will die out and people will learn. The problem is that they are represented in America because of welfare.