Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=XHEzU1BLp8o
youtu.be/U7JgfB8PaAk
youtube.com/watch?v=MG1YmuWxtlY
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3977050/100-million-bed-hopping-hypocrite-claimed-lived-20-month-Fidel-Castro-20-luxury-homes-private-island-88ft-yacht-mistresses-galore.html
breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/11/report-hugo-chavezs-favorite-daughter-is-the-richest-person-in-venezuela/
dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/525778/Kim-Jong-un-cars-North-Korea-pyongyang-dictator-starve-mercedes-benz
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9767514/Heirs-of-Communist-Chinas-Eight-Immortals-have-amassed-huge-wealth.html
theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1
anyforums.com/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Give me one good argument against the NAP

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youtube.com/watch?v=XHEzU1BLp8o

>he thinks gommunism is "politically incorrect"

How is liquidating the bourgeoisie politically correct?

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Russia is now a shithole thanks to gommunism, you're not making a good case for yourself

Just crawl back to leftypol and seize the means of self ending

Hello asshole

sage

What? Is a shithole ever since there is no USSR

Hi comrade, how is your day?

JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY

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>communism general
hit the boost, kid

I never understood why right wing basement dwellers who claim to be more open to new ideas than mainstream society require Sup Forums to be their personal safe space where no one will challenge their view.

It's almost like right wing idiots are the embodiment of the things they say they are red pilled against.

>Is a shithole ever since there is no USSR
What happened to the USSR? Why do you think it collapsed?

You are samefagging hard today OP.
Guess you don't even get the attention you used to. Sad.

kill every communist you can find until the root of the problem is eliminated

Give us your mainstream media explanation as to why it collapsed.

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>mainstream media explanation
I don't even know what that is, but I'm guessing it did because of G O M M U N I S M

I think you managed to go even below that.
I am sure the Roman Empire collapsed because of GOMANISM

hue hue hue you dont even know le true gommunism

>SPQR was Marxist, 2000 years before Marx was born
>this is what gommunists actually believe

Hey OP, and genuine commie folks (and alt-right Sup Forums native folks) can we actually discuss something seriously?
Capitalism is not the end-game system, truth. But fucking Marxism-Leninism is neither a working system nor will it ever be. Can you point out something we should look for to improve the system?
Btw, watch vid first.
youtu.be/U7JgfB8PaAk
>pic absolutely unrelated

>I don't know how money works the thread

narco-syndicalism sounds good. do you know anything about this?

>Can't understand blatant criticism of logic.
I honestly should not be surprised, despite it being painfully obvious you still just could not comprehend it.

>spouts some incoherent nonsense
>then considers it "criticism of logic"

>2017
>unironically lolbertarian

WE WUZ GOMMUNUSTS

Sometimes I dream about cheese

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its a totaly abstract thing made up by society to help us manage our resources.

It works pretty well all things considered, but placing any more inherent meaning in it than that is just stupid. There is no inherent need for it to be the method we use for resource management for all time.

My child, I was asking for an explanation, you managed to produce a word. Simplifying any situation to be explainable to a word is silly, to point this out, I said that the Roman Empire collapsed because of another word. The word I chose was Romanism, but the replaced the R with a G since that is a meme you children really like, thought it would improve your understanding.

I know this is all a lot to take in, because you're so indoctrinated to reply with memes and not really understand the actual meaning of what is said to you.

But please reply to this post with a reaction face from your big folder, and some misrepresentative green text, I love those.

Hey, tovarisch, wanna take a free helicopter flight? :^)

Why should someone with higher ability be motivated to work more than someone with less ability?

Hey lefty/pol/ thoughts about this guy, dwelling in /his/ and Sup Forums I rarely see people talks about him, why is that ?

Sage commie faggots.

Communism is an ideology, "Romanism" is not.

The USSR was communist, and communism failed and thus the Soviet Empire collapsed

Explain how I'm wrong, daddy

>prove me wrong
Prove yourself right on all accounts.

Also i wanted a reaction face, why do you stop posting reaction faces in every post after I point out that's what you do?

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>Prove yourself right
Communism has proved itself to be a failure, no more proof needed

Hey commie, lets meet up and discuss Marxism.

I'll meet you in whichever successful Marxist nation you'd prefer.

>I don't need evidence because my premise is my argument.
Sounds like someone didn't finish high school.

Fascism.

>my premise is my argument
"Communism is a failure" is my conclusion, not my premise. Its evidence can be seen through all ex-soviet states being shitholes, or that must be a pure coincidence right?

Look at your flag, now look at mine. Look at yours again.

>fascism
Can you thing of anything a little bit more corrupted?

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>>>>pic absolutely unrelated

>implying i don't know my terruncho is a shithole

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youtube.com/watch?v=MG1YmuWxtlY

meme warfare you say? you got it

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Filthy commies.

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your ideology is flawed and doesn't work

>Most Russians prefer return of famines and jewish rule
SAGE

Try this experiment.

Day 1
>walk down high street in hammer & sickle t-shirt
>observe reactions

Day 2
>walk down high street in swastika t-shirt
>observe reactions

See if you can notice any differences.

LITERALLY all they have to do is vote for it. How is the Communist Party doing in elections these days?

Still politically incorrect to seize the means of production.

you should seize a brain

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Yes, theft is politically incorrect in every ideology except marxism. It is the ideology of envy, resentment, greed and theft.

>$120 million bed-hopping hypocrite: He claimed he lived on $25 a month. But Castro had 20 luxury homes, a private island, an 88ft yacht - and mistresses galore
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3977050/100-million-bed-hopping-hypocrite-claimed-lived-20-month-Fidel-Castro-20-luxury-homes-private-island-88ft-yacht-mistresses-galore.html

>Hugo Chavez’s Favorite Daughter Is Richest Person in Venezuela
breitbart.com/national-security/2015/08/11/report-hugo-chavezs-favorite-daughter-is-the-richest-person-in-venezuela/

>Kim Jong-un splashes out £14 MILLION on luxury cars while North Korea starves
dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/525778/Kim-Jong-un-cars-North-Korea-pyongyang-dictator-starve-mercedes-benz

>Heirs of Communist China's Eight Immortals 'have amassed huge wealth'
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9767514/Heirs-of-Communist-Chinas-Eight-Immortals-have-amassed-huge-wealth.html

>Of the seven oligarchs who controlled 50% of Russia's economy during the 1990s, six were Jewish
theguardian.com/world/2007/jul/02/russia.lukeharding1

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If central planning is superior to a free market, why did this happen?

>start central planning
>economic collapse
>implement some free market ideas in order to get back on your feet
>start central planning again and repeat until the fall of the USSR.

>faimines
>1970s and 1980s

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Christian-Odinistic national socialist post-singularity tribalistic space colonialism.

It's always these two, the one with the spanish flag and the other with swedish flag.

Hi comrade nice to see you again

>What's wrong with communism?
Explain what's wrong with communism.
>What's wrong with communism?

What's wrong with communism?

You know, when you do this you just make people hate you more. You're not accomplishing nothing here.

There has never been a communist nation without a black market. If communism could truly take care of the economic means of its citizens then this should not be the case.

What?, I was expecting the bourgeoisie to hate

Nothing. It is the perfect theory built on an infallible foundation of logic and objective morality, refined by real-life trial and error and experimentation, and sanctioned by thousands of years of organic tradition and the authority of elder wisdom. It will, without a shadow of a doubt, work next time.

Is driving a car violating the NAP because the fumes from exhaust can be inhaled? Is refusing to feed a dependent until they give you sexual favors against the NAP because you're technically only abstaining from doing something?

Hi Augusto

Many high functioning jobs are done by people who aren't interested in salary alone. How many doctors, physicists, or orchestral leaders took the job mainly out of interest in the money?

Many life expectancies declined sharply after the fall of the USSR.

Communism what a fucking joke

Sage

The last famine in the USSR was in 1947. There weren't any Jewish main leaders, with the disputed exception of Lenin.

The hammer and sickle or a portrait of Stalin would get you chased out of town in many parts of the US.

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>Daily Fail and Dumbbart

Is this an argument for keeping a failed state to continue? Did the life expectancy in more capitalistic European countries linger during the same time as the USSR?

I'm not saying the USSR should have continued. My point was just that much of the ex USSR was in better condition in 1970 than in 1992.