So, i've heard a lot of you guys claiming that the holocaust didn't happen. Is this just a Sup Forums meme...

So, i've heard a lot of you guys claiming that the holocaust didn't happen. Is this just a Sup Forums meme, or is this something you believe. Furthermore, if you do believe, explain why it is so.

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beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/international-red-cross-records-put-the-holocaust-death-toll-of-camp-inmates-at-271301-2835710.html
youtube.com/watch?v=Re1EHww99hI&t=4585s
youtu.be/Vwku0UFB8_s
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/105183387/
gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html
gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__189.html
rense.com/general75/38.htm
trutube.tv/video/23849/The-Treblinka-Archaeology-Hoax
trutube.tv/video/29180/The-Majdanek-Gas-Chamber-Myth
trutube.tv/video/21170/The-Jewish-Gas-Chamber-Hoax-A-New-Film-By-Holocaust-Debunker-Eric-Hunt
trutube.tv/video/2353/The-Last-Days-of-The-Big-Lie
trutube.tv/video/1761/Six-MIllion-My-Ass
semiticcontroversies.blogspot.ca/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html
holocausthandbooks.com/
vho.org/
codoh.com/
ihr.org/main/search.shtml
adelaideinstitute.org/
whatreallyhappened.info/
nazigassings.com/
zundelsite.org/
cwporter.com/partone.htm
jewwatch.com/jew-holocaust-lies-hoax-frauds-blackflagops-hoaxarchive.html
holocaustrevisionism.com/
gaschamberhoax.com
germarrudolf.com/2012/05/air-photo-evidence/
trutube.tv/video/2345/ONE-THIRD-of-the-HOLOCAUST-full-video
trutube.tv/video/3110/Ernst-Zundel-Setting-the-Record-Straight
trutube.tv/video/2922/Ernst-Zundel-The-Great-Holocaust-Trial
trutube.tv/video/5268/Ernst-Zundel-Off-Your-Knees-Germany-1983-2003-ENG
archive.org/details/TheRudolfReport
archive.org/details/LecturesOnTheHolocaust_662
archive.org/details/GermarRudolfed.DissectingTheHolocaust
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_show_trials
patriot.dk/nurnberg1.html
patriot.dk/nurnberg2.html
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art19
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art21
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/CPeng.pdf
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/DInur.pdf
trutube.tv/video/27673/Jew-Run-Nuremberg-Show-Trial-Nazis-made-human-skin-hand-bags-and-slippers
kilkennyjournal.ie/index.php/politics/item/1484-international-red-cross-report-confirms-the-myth-of-the-six-million
balder.org/judea/Six-Million-140-Occurrences-Of-The-Word-Holocaust-And-The-Number-6,000,000-Before-The-Nuremberg-Trials-Began.php
fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html
holohoax.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/holocaust-or-holohoax-03-richard-e-harwood-did-six-million-really-die/
tarbaby.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/concentration-camps-of-the-nazis/
holohoax.wordpress.com/2013/10/26/holocaust-or-holohoax-05-20-amazing-facts/
codoh.com/library/document/384/
codoh.com/library/document/2633/
codoh.com/library/document/3796/
holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/2015/01/27/simple-reasons-for-rejecting-the-holocaust-hoax/
holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/?
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

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Your gana get a lot of shit answers but before the waves come in.

There is potential evidence to show that the Holocaust didn't happen or that it happen at a much smaller level then what is said.

Personally I don't accept or deny the Holocaust, but I recommend you look into it.

I would appreciate some links, my dude.

It didn't happen the way the Jews claim it did, their were no gas chambers, yes many still died and yes bad things happened but some of it is over exaggerated their were no "death" camps just work camps with poor conditions

I don't have the links. Ive not actually put in any real effort in my research. I've just listened to what other people have said.

Watch David Irving videos on yt to get a better understanding of the whole thing

The really weird thing is no one is allowed to talk about it.

Look up Holocaust Handbooks on YT. They're not really Nazi sympathizers, but more historical revisionists. They have plenty of videos exposing myths and lies. There's also plenty of documents used in the videos.

Gentlemen, provide evidence to back up your claims. Otherwise, you're full of shit.

Bump for oldfag to redpill

It has to do with:
exaggerated statistics
rate of bodies needed to be burned (come on, 6 million in that amount of time... really?)
the ones that died were just do to bombing by the allies
(at the time even the german people were starving cause all the supplies were getting bombed by cuck faggots)

When i said evidence, i didn't mean "there were exaggerated statistics" i mean "these are the statistics that were exaggerated"

Learn the difference

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The holocaust obviously happened, and to deny it would be criminal

I told you I am bumping for an oldfag to redpill.

This board has IDs, its not like Sup Forums; you can see the same people making multiple posts in a thread and see who posts what.

beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/11/international-red-cross-records-put-the-holocaust-death-toll-of-camp-inmates-at-271301-2835710.html

It was only approximately 3 million jews that died in the camps. Wish it were more but theres always another shoah...

I dunno man, these individuals are claiming otherwise.

Yet here we are, talking about it

I was all a satire. This whole site is satire.

Thats because we're anonymous. If we weren't, we would have our faces bashed in

>i
It*
youtube.com/watch?v=Re1EHww99hI&t=4585s

I'm required by law to believe in it so I won't make a statement on this public forum that would indicate that I don't.

Of course it happened, we all know that those historical events that required legislation like the holocaust and... oh, and.... must be true.

Not gonna spoonfeed. Look into what color jewish 'witnesses' said the 'gassing' victims were after being gassed. Now lookup what color bodies are after zyklon b/cyanide poisoning.

Happy research user.

>It didn't happen the way the Jews claim it did, their were no gas chambers, yes many still died and yes bad things happened but some of it is over exaggerated their were no "death" camps just work camps with poor conditions

I am living in Lublin, we have Majdanek here, there are gas chambers there

It's common sense. Allow me to demonstrate:

>Any student of history is familiar with wartime propaganda
>A brief study of WWI will show you a wide variety of absurdly exaggerated lies about horrors committed by the other side
>This is the case for virtually any war ever - make up lies about the atrocities being committed by your enemies to get your people eager to go to war

>in WWII, we have plenty of common sense reasons to suspect that the holocaust is also propaganda:
>No written proof of any kind
>Emaciated prisoners the obvious side effect of Allies destroying Germany's ability to feed their own soldiers toward the end of the war, much less their prisoners
>Confessions by high ranking Germans at Nuremberg extracted via torture - plenty of historical sources confirm this
>Evidence submitted at trials and earliest Holocaust claims proven to be complete falsifications - soap made from Jews and lampshades from human skin.
>Given the preceding, given that attempts were made to provide false "proof", given that the Jews have a incredible amount to gain from belief in the Holocaust, even if you're not ready to go full on denier, you should have a healthy amount of doubt regarding the official story.

There is some evidence that the number killed in forced labor or extermination camps was exaggerated.

I don't really get the interest because even if the numbers are inflated it doesn't change the historical fact that these were intentional acts of cruelty and slavery to various enemies of the Reich state.

I get so disgusted by the people who say "Hitler did nothing wrong" and are serious about it because we have tons of evidence from primary sources he did in fact do some terrible things.

So there it is: you can make a strong case the numbers were exaggerated but not to the extent that the historicity of the holocaust is in doubt.

WOAH HOLD THE PHONE THERE PARTNER

ARE YOU FUCKERS SAYING THERES NO WRITTEN DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST

ARE YOU SERIOUS

could like, one of you pass me some links to some verified websites, and not conspiracy rubbish?

Motherfuck, forgot the reply link

I think gas chambers ain't so useful,I always wondered why they didn't use water,cheaper,widely availeable,not dangerous if handednuncorrectly overall watpy simpler i think.
using some railway cars with bars,getting people in,then roll backwards towards a lake or a pond,(if you see the rails on a dry dock,something like that)let the vagons sink and them drown,wait 15 minutes to make sure,then raise the cars again,you could use an upscale version of the systems used in mining
The fact germans didn't think of something like it amazes me.

Tell me pol would this system work better or worse than gas chambers (including costs of operation)do you see any flaws I might not have thought of?

i'm skeptical of people who jail opposite view points

it doesn't mean their view is necessarily true, but if you have an argument you wouldn't need to use a gun

You still need to get rid of the corpses, and they'll be heavier after being dunked in water.

Gas chambers with wooden doors

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It doesn't matter if they are heavier the water will go out through bars and the corpses being heavier wouldn't be much of a difference (the same cars are used to transport carts ladder with heavy minerals at mines)about them being dunked in water would be a problem when trying to burn but i still think the system is safer and cheaper than using fucking gas and having to bring gas..

>but if you have an argument you wouldn't need to use a gun
Except in the case of Holocaust Denial it is closely connected with Neo-Nazism and anti-semitism. It's just another form of hate speech in those countries.

Franciszek Piper, “Gas Chambers and Crematoria” in Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp (Indiana University Press and United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, 1994), p. 159
The doors were gas-tight, and we have photos and testimonies to there being iron doors.
> the corpses being heavier wouldn't be much of a difference
But it's still a difference, which means you'll need more workers to carry them and get rid of the bodies. Burning them is the best way to get rid of them (ash makes great fertilizer), and you can´t do that very easily if they are soaking wet.

Hi shlomo.

Pls jump into an oven to prove your hoax is real

This is pretty long, but if the subject interests you I recommend it

youtu.be/Vwku0UFB8_s

>Except in the case of Holocaust Denial it is closely connected with Neo-Nazism and anti-semitism. It's just another form of hate speech in those countries.

Sorry icebro but this is bullshit.
Here, let me give you the perspective of an ex-communist state dweller.
The communist regimes and communist ideology were responsible for the murder of close to one hundred million human beings across the world, from the Bolshevik revolution, to the cultural revolution, to the gulags and the great purges of elites and Christians.

No laws exist that ban the use of communist propaganda. You have fucking teens wearing T-shirts with Che Guevara who think Hitler was the devil incarnate. Crimes of communist regimes are not only denied without punishment but their denial is supported officially by most states. Communist rhetoric is not only not considered hate speech but it's actually encouraged by leftists.

I'm not saying communist supporters should be jailed but fuck it, you must realize that, when someone who upholds ideas responsible for the deaths of close to 100.000.000 people goes freely about his business while someone who upholds ideas responsible for the deaths of 6.000.000 people is sent to jail, there is something fucking wrong with society and chances are someone has the interest for things to be like this.

Also read this thread from last Sunday
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/105183387/

>even roasts a kosher meat
What a madman

>2017
>White people are about to become minorities in their own countries
>White nationalists still bitch about amount of dead kikes

Hitler did EVERYTHING wrong... if he had holded on instead of giving in to pressure he would have had a better sucsess at wiping out the Squidwards out of fucking existence...

fun fact, the jews in the industry made sure this movie was re-edited and they tried to stop it release world wide
>pic related
give a wild guess what the movie is about...

The Churchill thing is BS. He commented against execution of the nuremberg trials.

Bored so I'll take this on

1) Of the million or so survivors of the Holocaust, only 100.000 came from the camps, mostly people liberated during the Soviet invasion/liberation of Poland. The German tried to eliminate as many Jews as they could, but resource shortages made this task very difficult.

2)De Gaulle never went to Germany during the war, preferring to stay in France during the invasion, so he wouldn't know what happened. Eisenhower did, however, as he arrived in the concentration camp at Gotha (Crusade in Europe, pages 408-9.)

3)To heal those who were needed at the camp. A few inmates were either willing collaborators or hard workers, and were so considered too valuable to kill, as killing them would require men to replace them that weren't available.

4)That´s what the Einsatzgruppen were for. Most of the Jews in the death camps came from the general Government in Poland (which had to administrate over 2 million Jews) and nearby occupied areas.

5) They have, pic related

6)Because a figure close to six million most closely matches the evidence. Don't think that his hasn't been the subject of much debate, especially after the war. Also, nobody ever claimed that four million Jews were killed in Auschwitz.

7)It was necessary because if it wasn't encrypted everyone would've known about it and we wouldn't be arguing about this today. The Holocaust wasn't exactly a popular policy.

8)The water was pumped out of the pits. Also, no source on those water table statistics.

9)No source for the claims either. And it's no coincidence most of the death camps were in eastern Europe, because that's where 90% of European Jews lived at the time.

10)Again, sources are needed for the claims.

11)Yes, it's because the claims lacked evidence, unlike the claims that Jews were murdered systematically, which we have documents, Nazi testimonies and forensic evidence for

12)See 10.

13)Where is 13?

1/2

>claims historical perspective
>i'll just make shit up with no cross references, corrobations or citations

>In 14 different countries in Europe it's illegal to even question it
I'm being unironic here, Jews did die, lots of people died, it was WW2, however, it was no where close to 6 million like they claim

>White nationalists
Stromniggers are no such thing. They are quite the antithesis to white nationalists. They want to make some sort of zoo, in which they put whites and toy with them at their leisure. They are commies who divide people by skin colour and superficial features instead of class, they ignore culture and language completely because "muh rays", despite not understanding any of it.
Let's be honest, they are controlled opposition to provide the normies with a boogeyman and to enable their fellow international socialist to enact their bullshit. There would be no need for the globalists, if it weren't for the stromniggers.

>divide people by skin colour and superficial features instead of class

it's clear the 6 million was a forced meme
why trust them after knowing they lie?

2/2

14)Yes, it is. And several gospels, the Gospel of Thomas for example, don't mention the crucifixion.

15)False. There are plenty of testimonies that make no such claim.

16)Any evidence of this sonar probing and it's results? A name or date might be useful.

17)But we do. take this photo from Auschwitz of piles bodies being burnt.

18)Maybe it is because the nations that do this were the ones where the Jews who were murdered came from, and feel that it is offensive to deny this atrocity, or because Holocaust denial is closely linked to anti-Semitism. Either way, it is a question for the lawmakers.
Also, how come none of the over 180 countries where Holocaust denial is legal, with the exception of Arab countries who have a bone to grind with Israel, have found the Holocaust to lack evidence?

19)Blatant appeal to authority. it doesn't matter if the revisionists have degrees, what matters is the evidence.

20)Because few people deny that the Civil war ever happened.

21)Because crematoriums used in morgues in Western countries are different than the ones used in Auschwitz, who routinely burned multiple corpses at a time, and were not subject to the same standards and regulations.

This was pretty fun.

At least the commies will eventually find someone who can count the burgeois money while the stormnegro thinks certain facial features translate to iq.

>It's not six million!
>doesn´t offer any alternative number

If you burn 6 million jews, you end up with 18.000 tons of ash. That is 200 heavy train wagons worth of ash.

>Commies succeeding at anything ever

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How many of you fags have watched The World At War?

Fucking awesome documentary. Goes for so long.

2d>3d
kys, normie

German laws:

>gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__130.html

§ 130 Penal Code: Sedition / Demagoguery
Denying, approving or downplaying crimes done under the national socialistic rule will result in prison sentences ranging from 3 to 5 years.

>gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__189.html

§ 189 Penal Code: Slandering the memento of decedents
Slandering the memento of decendets will result in a prison sentence up to 2 years.

>YFW free speach only counts when the illustrated opinion doesnt collide with the leftist agenda.
Dunno, but really makes me wonder when denying any historical events seems to be pretty fine, except for the fucking holocaust.
Like turks would give a fuck about the armenian homocide, "dindu nuffin".

Links for the lazy?

> 2d
Time for you to get outside and meet some 3d women, you'll change your opinion fast.

Absolutely 100% believe it. It's the first of many redpills cause once you realize they can fool us on something that big they can make us believe anything

Watched it in WW2 class in high school. Brilliant in every way, and probably the only time I've actually been interested in watching a school documentary.
Not to mention the theme song.

>believe

you normies are too stupid to see how retarded you are.

My great-grandmother magically survived Bergen-Belsen while pregnant with my grandmother

mighty strange, given that the idea was supposedly to exterminate jews, especially the ones from ukraine, which is where they grabbed her from

really
makes
me
think

I'm not writing a dissertation for Sup Forums, son. I didn't mention anything that isn't easily inferred from common knowledge and anyone who's interested can research it themselves.

Was your grandmother Jewish or just a regular traitor?

>not realzing the goal was to exterminate the aryan ukranians
research more

jewish

and yes, on my mother's side. I am in fact a kike myself

I remember when I was this young and naive

Here are your links you filthy kike nigger
Pt 1
rense.com/general75/38.htm

trutube.tv/video/23849/The-Treblinka-Archaeology-Hoax
trutube.tv/video/29180/The-Majdanek-Gas-Chamber-Myth
trutube.tv/video/21170/The-Jewish-Gas-Chamber-Hoax-A-New-Film-By-Holocaust-Debunker-Eric-Hunt
trutube.tv/video/2353/The-Last-Days-of-The-Big-Lie
trutube.tv/video/1761/Six-MIllion-My-Ass
semiticcontroversies.blogspot.ca/2012/07/origin-of-6-million-jews-figure.html
holocausthandbooks.com/ (Books)
vho.org/ (Books)
codoh.com/ (Forum Search)
ihr.org/main/search.shtml
adelaideinstitute.org/
whatreallyhappened.info/
nazigassings.com/
zundelsite.org/
cwporter.com/partone.htm
jewwatch.com/jew-holocaust-lies-hoax-frauds-blackflagops-hoaxarchive.html
holocaustrevisionism.com/ (PDF Document)
gaschamberhoax.com
germarrudolf.com/2012/05/air-photo-evidence/
trutube.tv/video/2345/ONE-THIRD-of-the-HOLOCAUST-full-video
trutube.tv/video/3110/Ernst-Zundel-Setting-the-Record-Straight
trutube.tv/video/2922/Ernst-Zundel-The-Great-Holocaust-Trial
trutube.tv/video/5268/Ernst-Zundel-Off-Your-Knees-Germany-1983-2003-ENG
archive.org/details/TheRudolfReport
archive.org/details/LecturesOnTheHolocaust_662
archive.org/details/GermarRudolfed.DissectingTheHolocaust
Nuremberg Show Trials
en.metapedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_show_trials
The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust
patriot.dk/nurnberg1.html
patriot.dk/nurnberg2.html
Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 19
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art19
>The Tribunal shall not be bound by technical rules of evidence. It shall adopt and apply to the greatest possible extent expeditious and nontechnical procedure, and shall admit any evidence which it deems to be of probative value.

Pt 2
Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 1
Article 21
avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp#art21
>The Tribunal shall not require proof of facts of common knowledge but shall take judicial notice thereof. It shall also take judicial notice of official governmental documents and reports of the United Nations, including the acts and documents of the committees set up in the various allied countries for the investigation of war crimes, and of records and findings of military or other Tribunals of any of the United Nations.
Not Guilty at Nuremberg - Carlos W. Porter
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres3/CPeng.pdf
Nuremberg: The Last Battle - David Irving
vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres4/DInur.pdf
Jew Run Nuremberg Show Trial
trutube.tv/video/27673/Jew-Run-Nuremberg-Show-Trial-Nazis-made-human-skin-hand-bags-and-slippers


rense.com/general75/38.htm
kilkennyjournal.ie/index.php/politics/item/1484-international-red-cross-report-confirms-the-myth-of-the-six-million
balder.org/judea/Six-Million-140-Occurrences-Of-The-Word-Holocaust-And-The-Number-6,000,000-Before-The-Nuremberg-Trials-Began.php
fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html
holohoax.wordpress.com/2013/07/15/holocaust-or-holohoax-03-richard-e-harwood-did-six-million-really-die/
tarbaby.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/concentration-camps-of-the-nazis/
holohoax.wordpress.com/2013/10/26/holocaust-or-holohoax-05-20-amazing-facts/
codoh.com/library/document/384/
codoh.com/library/document/2633/
codoh.com/library/document/3796/
holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/2015/01/27/simple-reasons-for-rejecting-the-holocaust-hoax/
holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/?

It happened, but it was exaggerated. The six bajimikazagoriliion is blown out of proportion, the real death count is less than a million, however it was an atrocity nonetheless.

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who gives a shit, jews are such a cancer to the world that even if it did happen, I can totally understand why and don't blame the guy

Take this on, cucks.

THE MAINSTREAM WORLD IS RUN BY THE JEWS
youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

Ah yes, the Danzig peace plan, clearly this proves that there was no attempt to systematically kill Jews.
And some unsourced images, with a "Jewish conspiracy" claim to boot!

I never get tired of seeing just how deluded Holocaust deniers can get in their quest to prove academia wrong.

>s this just a Sup Forums meme
yes

it happened

IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND!